Skip Bayless explains why LeBron doesn't come close to Jordan

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Shannon and Skip sharply disagree on this topic. Why does Skip still think LeBron James isn't in Michael Jordan's league?
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@jacadianpro 7 жыл бұрын

I died when Shannon started bringing up their ages 😂😂😂😂

@willhunter1842 7 жыл бұрын

no bs

@Seswa553 7 жыл бұрын

people that

@FMM45 7 жыл бұрын

facts

@Mont3000 7 жыл бұрын

that *Fantastic Four*(Golden State) had me rollin.

@TheRealDJCortez 7 жыл бұрын

LOOOL facts

@nitman3 7 жыл бұрын

Lol man how does skip not get bored of this topic

@shine2345 7 жыл бұрын

21 Romeo that's cause people keep entertaining the ridiculous aspect that he is

@Gmannn04 6 жыл бұрын

Greg Roman it’s pretty obvious that he’s a huge MJ fanboy. He ignores the fact that even though MJ has a better finals record he still couldn’t get anywhere without his teammates while LeBron is on decent but not stacked teams.

@toddsmith601 4 күн бұрын

His whole career has been fueled by this whole debate

@kobeoneal3221 7 жыл бұрын

Skip Bayless is the greatest 3 point shooter in NBA

@EasyWeezyy 7 жыл бұрын

Man, Skip is such a troll but I love it. He's hilarious.

@craigrutter4620 7 жыл бұрын

ILOVEBASKETBALL hes so entertaining man i love watching this guy

@pathexile3064 7 жыл бұрын

Ya since he brings up so many stats no one else talks about

@jeremyalmogela2673 7 жыл бұрын

Ortis Smith

@kd35beast24 6 жыл бұрын

He's a troll?? You clearly haven't heard of Nick Wright

@wesleymurray7028 4 жыл бұрын

He's always trolling! He just makes me shake my head and smile.

@88laserbeam 7 жыл бұрын

lol Shannon "STAAHP SKIP"

@jamrob21 7 жыл бұрын

88laserbeam that be the funniest! Sthaaaaap

@GalvatronVGC 7 жыл бұрын

88laserbeam SSKKEEEEUUUUPPP

@mr2seven6 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon using skips logic against skip was the highlight of my day

@hvl1806 7 жыл бұрын

8:58: "ANSWER ME! NOW!!!!" - Shannon made me laugh big time.

@jazztravis6817 4 жыл бұрын

Don't let Shannon fopl y'all. He knows that Mj is the Best. He witnessed. That. He even semi said it. One day Hes just going by his scripts. Child Don't be fooled. ..

@jymirsmith5282 3 жыл бұрын

@@jazztravis6817 shut up you don’t know what your talking about 9 year old if he thought mj was better he would be making the same case for Mj being better that Lebron being better

@thetalkinggreenbox8948 2 ай бұрын

@@jazztravis6817bro believes in sports propaganda 😭

@rc94c74 7 жыл бұрын

Skip won the debate as soon as he sided with mj

@dte8329 7 жыл бұрын

Bulls won 55 games without Jordan and almost made thge ECF.

@tonyshlean 7 жыл бұрын

Rogger C he would've if the debate was actually about if Jordan was better. Skip the only one arguing about whether Bron is better

@Joshua22782 7 жыл бұрын

No he did not. Have some perspective.

@commanderpinnacles 7 жыл бұрын

But won the championship with him

@QCongress83 7 жыл бұрын

But the Bulls didn't win the championship, David Robinson retired the Spurs went on to win 3 more championships.

@WazwazSwaq 7 жыл бұрын

they debate lebron vs jordan two times a week smh

@tjr2312 7 жыл бұрын

They really do lol I think this show has potential if they'd stop talking about dak Prescott and lebron vs Jordan

@Kashiroymaru 7 жыл бұрын

Skip focuses on these because he can play the troll role. He did it on First Take, and he will continue it here. SAS now assumes his role on First Take.

@uncontrolledsubstance910 7 жыл бұрын

& the media has been debating this senseless comparison for a decade now

@sumitbharti9083 7 жыл бұрын

lebron is not better than jordan. No one will ever be. But he certainly is better than bird, magic, shaq, duncan, kobe, kareem, wilt, hakeem and russel. Yeah he is top 2

@sumitbharti9083 7 жыл бұрын

lebron is not better than jordan. No one will ever be. But he certainly is better than bird, magic, shaq, duncan, kobe, kareem, wilt, hakeem and russel. Yeah he is top 2

@biggestbullsfan8569 7 жыл бұрын

I don't know what skip's talking about? These guys were all lousy three point shooters. LBJ 34% , 32.1% playoffs MJ 32.7%, 33.2% playoffs Magic 30.3%, 24.1% playoffs

@jamesgavin9765 7 жыл бұрын

those guys didn't shoot as much as Lebron does so skip gives them passes

@TheMohamoud60 7 жыл бұрын

Nah. Skip gives them a pass because they're not LBJ.

@theoneweekwonder 7 жыл бұрын

not lousy, the game back then was a lot different and less threes were shot than today

@biggestbullsfan8569 7 жыл бұрын

They attempted way less because players back down couldn't shoot. Shot quantity does not affect %s.

@iss6044 7 жыл бұрын

LeBron James was a 40% 3 point shooter in Miami. It seems like every year, LeBron's shooting stats decline, and I think the reason is because his legs are shot. He plays a lot of basketball every year, going deep into the postseason, six straight years in the NBA finals will take a toll.

@andrayanderson19 7 жыл бұрын

This segment was funny. Shannon had me cracking up! 😂😂😂

@MrAmazinq23 7 жыл бұрын

New generation are the only ones who think Lebron is better than MJ

@ak740_ 7 жыл бұрын

AmaZe and the old generation thinks Jordan is better. And the one before that think kareem is better. That's kind of how it works

@MrAmazinq23 7 жыл бұрын

arman1261 Agreed

@Stev4e897 7 жыл бұрын

Im new generation and i think MJ is better

@whyyoudoingthistomeskip4060 7 жыл бұрын

old generation thinks LeBron isn't better.

@kamaoggg12 6 жыл бұрын

People like Hakeem Bird Kobe they are some of the greatest players ever and actually know what they are talking about because they are champions lebron fans are the most delusional

@Shadow-nj6cr 7 жыл бұрын

Lebron James choking to the Mavericks should've been the point where people stopped comparing the two

@RibsBjj 7 жыл бұрын

What about the times Jordan didn't reached the NBA Finals? We gonna just ignore that?

@Shadow-nj6cr 7 жыл бұрын

***** You're talking about when he had an inferior bulls team going up against the Bad Boys, Larry Bird Celtics and so on ?

@jsmiller0605 7 жыл бұрын

Shadow 0876 Lebron never lost In the first round ... Michael Jordan was 1-9 in playoff games before Scottie Pippen showed up ... and got spanked by the bad boys ...

@bfoz 7 жыл бұрын

And the Mavs are a terrible team? Not really.

@RibsBjj 7 жыл бұрын

+Shadow 0876 Everybody counts LeBron losses (2007, 2015) LeBron and bunch of bench players.What's up with that ??But it's MJ let's just ignore that fact and hate on LeBron smh

@biggestbullsfan8569 7 жыл бұрын

Let's go Shannon!

@RacerNight86 7 жыл бұрын

Micheal Jordan is the greatest basketball player EVER... Enough said... 💯💯💯

@jonjohnson1978. 6 жыл бұрын

In your opinion

@jonjohnson1978. 6 жыл бұрын

koolerystyle depends on your definition Bill Russell LeBron Kareem What's your reasoning for jordan being the best

@sankeerthkoshy8439 5 жыл бұрын

Championships + Accolades + Stats= Legacy

@brooklyncritic84 5 жыл бұрын

@@jonjohnson1978. it's a fact ...lebum has to many meltdowns...

@edwinmugisha4159 5 жыл бұрын

@canWego Backintime so we're saying robert horry with 7 championships is better than LeBron?????????????????

@JesperWiebke 7 жыл бұрын

Skip says that losing in the early rounds of the playoffs is apparently better than losing in the Finals because it doesn't hurt your finals record.

@sahilkurup3976 7 жыл бұрын

Yea skip needs to go for a checkup at the hospital and get his head checked

@tigera6 7 жыл бұрын

Had MJ not retired twice, he could have gone 8-0 or 9-0.

@JodyAncar 7 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that's most of America and basketball fans. 6 for 6.6 for 6. 6 for 6. That's all they say. No, Michael wasn't 6 for 6. He was 6 for however many seasons he played.

@TheoGFeedz 7 жыл бұрын

tigera6 Hakeem and the rockets would have been the best team he would have played against in the finals.

@24uber 7 жыл бұрын

+Kendall C Facts and probably would've won before Rodman came.

@goat1065 7 жыл бұрын

Facts: Michael Jordan in his 12th season in the NBA was a... 5x Finals MVP, 4x regular season MVP, 9x All-NBA First Team, 8x All-Defensive First Team, 9x Scoring Champ, 3x Steals Champ, and 1x DPOY Lebron in his 12th season in the NBA is a... 3x Finals MVP. 4x regular season MVP, 10x All-NBA First Team, 5x All-Defensive First Team, 1x Scoring Champ, 0x Steals Champ, 0x DPOY And you know what the funny thing is? That's including the fact that Jordan only played 18 games in '84-85 because of a broken foot, and only 17 games in '94-95 because baseball. Jordan = Undisputed GOAT

@MrRadiantMan 5 жыл бұрын

Plz bring up the assist stats and the rebounds into the equation.

@goisoneditz1370 5 жыл бұрын

Alia Imam yeah one assist more and 2 more rebounds a game is better than all that

@ramonanzures9780 4 жыл бұрын

GOAT wow you can copy and paste 😂 look at everything else besides mj getting the privilege to have a super team built around him

@betelnutwarrior 4 жыл бұрын

Ramon Anzures u dissing LeBron?

@Gottiline_Ace 4 жыл бұрын

@@ramonanzures9780 yeah, lebron has had numerous HOF players and superstars on EVERY team that ever won a Title. Mike made players around him better, Bron Bron just needed better players. That simple.

@janezverbic1874 7 жыл бұрын

*Shannon Sharpe for president !* He made Skip contradict himself at least 3 times in this video. MJ *''just couldn't beat the prime Celtics by himself''* , but Lebron *''must beat the prime Boston Big 3 by himself'' , Skip ?* *Lebron losses the finals with Kyrie and Love injured* - and it's held against Lebron, but when he won the finals with Love & Kyrie healthy - Lebron gets little to no credit, becuase *Draymond was out for 1 game and Curry was ''hurt'' (but dropped 38 in game 4).* And Magic and the Lakers *made ''the west weak''* , but Lebron *''just happens to play in the weak east'', right Skip ?*

@sahilkurup3976 7 жыл бұрын

I'll vote for Shannon sharpe

@sahilkurup3976 7 жыл бұрын

+Ivan The Piff Master yea he def does. And also cuz the heat beat the spurs in 2013 and since then it's just been LEBRON SUCKS from skip

@MrMuaythai84 7 жыл бұрын

celtic of ray allen and peirce is nothing compare to bird celtic get the f out here lebron fan boy

@MrMuaythai84 7 жыл бұрын

every hates lebron because people like you give him to much credit for doing so little. he didnt win game 7 of the finals that was kyrie lebron couldnt score to save his life in the last 4 minutes. in miami he turn the ball over 3 time in 2 mintues only to be save by bosh and ray allen. and choke against a mavs team that had 1 super star

@sahilkurup3976 7 жыл бұрын

so scoring 41 points in games 5 and 6 down 3-1 and a triple double is "doing so little".....interesting and did u watch the rest of the fourth quarter of that 2013 game 7? cuz it sounds like u just watched the last 2 minutes of each finals

@hawks1394 7 жыл бұрын

Jordan would destroy LeBron just face that ex Miami/ Cavs fans

@FootballManagerTaraz 7 жыл бұрын

Jordan is not better than Isiah Thomas or Magic Johnson...

@hueysoprano 7 жыл бұрын

Hawks 13 both in their primes jordan couldn't stop the physical specimen lebron is. that kinda of speed nd strength, don't play urself

@jazztravis6817 4 жыл бұрын

LeBron killed Kolby. He s fake friend. Hes not a Team. PLAYER. Dude is Fake

@jazztravis6817 4 жыл бұрын

@@FootballManagerTaraz ooh You Really Smoking Peanut Leaves. Tell Him that to his Face

@jazztravis6817 4 жыл бұрын

Hes not a Lakers. Hes a Cavaliers.

@jaxthedragonslayer2847 5 жыл бұрын

8:59 Shannon sounding like my math teacher 😭

@TheMohamoud60 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon Sharpe destroys Skip Bayless in ways Stephen A Smith never could.

@yurhomi4478 7 жыл бұрын

you're funny, thats not true

@Rob8041289 7 жыл бұрын

I agree Stephen A never brought up those points Shannon did all he said was "Skip nobody negating your points its just they are not complete" I'm like man shut up Stephen A

@Flash_1689 7 жыл бұрын

hold this w sir.

@elm4380 7 жыл бұрын

Somali Kamikaze he also doesn't shout his response like Stephen A, and Shannons way funnier

@BrianCheng24 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon was shouting though

@901KIL 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon's laugh @14:45 got me crying😂😂

@B23rie 7 жыл бұрын

this is the first time ive witness someone who questions MJ's greatness THEN says LBJ is the GOAT over MJ. and not get bashed by fans... and then MJ supporter is the one getting the downside of the arguement. smh the world has changed. just know MJ 6 LBJ 3.

@tyian6728 7 жыл бұрын

shannon is smoking that crystal for sure

@htownblack9184 7 жыл бұрын

Scottie has the same amount as Jordan dint forget that either

@adamleon9128 7 жыл бұрын

Ridiculous right? 6-0 no game 7s 10 scoring champion 4th all time scorer 2 threepeats 5 mvps 6 finals mvp Rookie of the year Dunk champion Defense player of the Year Theres nothing to debate. The media has been hyping up lebron for so long, its brainwashed people into thinking LBJ is the Greatest He isnt top 5.

@B23rie 7 жыл бұрын

+ 1982 ncaa champ

@raiders10003 7 жыл бұрын

kareem also has 6 and was more consistent than jordan

@324disturbed 7 жыл бұрын

when shannon started talk about their ages even skip has to smile 😂

@lintraharrington2394 7 жыл бұрын

"Don't you touch Lebron..." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@jazztravis6817 4 жыл бұрын

LeBron should not be 8n the conversation with The GOAT. Mj. Fr fr. 2 different things yo

@alexandernicholas1320 7 жыл бұрын

All I've heard from Skip over the past year: "Blah blah blah LeBron can't shoot, he isn't a shooter like Curry blah blah blah" Shooting isn't EVERYTHING, Skip. LeBron just beat the greatest 3 point shooting team of all time.

@pepsi1182 7 жыл бұрын

draymond couldn't play for game 5 and bogut couldn't play for game 7. if draymond would have played in game 5 gs would be back to back champs. so and as far as im concerned lebron hasn't beaten a healthy gs team

@joshscharf4230 7 жыл бұрын

golden state didnt beat a healthy cavs team remember that

@pepsi1182 7 жыл бұрын

***** actually they have beaten a "healthy cavs team" is the regular season so your point is invalid. last playoffs sure cavs weren't healthy ok fine ill give you that one but this year curry was hurt draymond couldn't play and bogut ( the only player that can stop lebron going to the basket) couldn't play so yeah the cavs haven't beaten a healthy warriors team and thats facts

@victorpetrescu6586 7 жыл бұрын

You can't play the what if game. You could say the same thing for the year prior and say, Lebron and the Cavaliers would have won with a healthy Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving. They had Draymond Green for both game 6 and 7 and lost both games. Health and suspensions are part of the game. If you can't keep your head straight and take yourself of the game, that's an L on your part and shouldn't detract from how well Lebron James and Kyrie played that series.

@joshscharf4230 7 жыл бұрын

andrew bogut is not on the team anymore plus one game without green okay i guve you that but that doesn't matter he came back for the rest of the finals curry hurt doesnt matter thats just an excuse he was healthy enough to be out there and if you think durants making a difference you forget he cowers in the face of lebron

@longjohnsilverthorne7766 7 жыл бұрын

Also, @ Shannon's comment at 7:45 - MJ played 12.5 (joined mid season in 1995) years in the league excluding the Wizard years. In those years, he made 6 finals. In the last 6.5 years, he made 6 finals. Next point on why Jordan couldn't beat the teams early in his career. He was 21-26. He is a guard, and therefore has to develop as a player. Nobody hates (or at least nobody should hate) on Lebron for losing 2003-2009. Why is this now relevant to Jordan? 8:45 - Mj lost to Orlando while having only played 15 regular season games. He then responded to this by winning 72 games the next year and 69 the year after. 8:50 - MJ was drafted in 85, so by the time he played the celtics, the early 80s were over. 10:48 - "Was Kevin Love or Kyrie healthy?" - hate this argument. Nobody hates on the Cavs for losing in 2015, yet people are bowing down to lebron after beating a banged up Warriors team in 2016. We understand Lebron had no help in 2015. We also understand he got incredibly lucky that the Warriors got crushed to a pulp by outside issues.

@rickmoody2195 7 жыл бұрын

Actually Jordan was drafted in 1984 and played 15 years in the league.

@TH-cq7bj 7 жыл бұрын

Rick Moody his 2nd year was limited cuz of injury. 94-95 he played after the all star break.. and then he had 2 years in Washington

@longjohnsilverthorne7766 7 жыл бұрын

Rick Moody Like what Trey Hull said, he played 2 years in Washington which I said I didn't count, and he played less than 20 games in 2 more years.

@rickmoody2195 7 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but the 2 years in Washington does count. You can't discount those years because he was in decline. He should have stayed retired.

@rickmoody2195 7 жыл бұрын

Probably because we are talking about apples and oranges. I reread your post and get you were implying their prime years. I was looking at their entire playing years which of course is not yet finished for LeBron. Given that, I can admit my comments were off base.

@BenDover-hh8hx 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon guy is too funny 😂

@youhateme8827 7 жыл бұрын

Two guys talking sports as if there's no cameras. Perfect! lol Joy over there sneak LeBron hating too lol

@DLewis2193 7 жыл бұрын

Jordan retired in his prime for 3 years

@NoorAli-bm1fr 7 жыл бұрын

so that's his problem

@kwagodbrown4966 7 жыл бұрын

Noor Ali nahh point is he retired and still did more than letrash

@LIL31000 7 жыл бұрын

No he didnt and so what he undefeated in the play offs

@treyymacc 7 жыл бұрын

and came back and won 3 straight titles after the three straght he retired on mike is the goat then kobe then maybe lebron depending on how he ends his career

@DLewis2193 7 жыл бұрын

guys my point is he retired in his prime where he probably would have won another 2-3 chips. he also started a lot later as Bron came straight from HS

@7770robi 7 жыл бұрын

I have to argue Skip on the Lebron and Ray Allen in game 6 argument ; Skip always brings up how Lebron missed the 3 to tie, but he never likes to bring up that Lebron hit the 3 *right before that* and on top of that Lebron scored *16 points in the 4th to even bring the team back into position to have a chance to tie* And Ray Allen had *0* points in game 7(0-4 FG, 0-2 3PT), when Lebron had *37 12 4 (12-23 FG, 5-10 3pt*) and Skip just glosses over those strong stats. And Chris Bosh also had *0* points in that game 7

@markeeeese 7 жыл бұрын

preach

@nayahbug2114 7 жыл бұрын

let mj nuts go

@russell9411 7 жыл бұрын

he cant nobody in the world cant.

@whyyoudoingthistomeskip4060 7 жыл бұрын

man

@zeroun92 7 жыл бұрын

7770robi Bosh sold out in defense in game 7 tho, but everything you said was factual

@christophergodwin7051 7 жыл бұрын

" But, you'll never play me like LeBron versus Jordan 20 years wonder who they gone say was more important Both changed the game came through and made a lane Who's to say that who's greater, all we know they ain't the same." -J. Cole

@Ameeno95 7 жыл бұрын

8:15 when you're crush texts back...

@gh0std3lta84 7 жыл бұрын

I like how joy moderates doesn't weigh in until the end unlike molly from FT. Plus skip took a big L

@Cleveland-fp8kh 7 жыл бұрын

Skip making too many excuses lol Shannon won this debate

@TH-cq7bj 7 жыл бұрын

As soon as LeBron (or anyone for that matter) wins a scoring title, MVP and DPOY in the SAME SEASON, then we can compare that player to the REAL King Michael Jeffery Jordan

@nayahbug2114 7 жыл бұрын

let mj nuts go

@kyzerjyzer1730 7 жыл бұрын

MJ was the 3rd best defensive player on his team in the second 3-peat.

@386boy819 7 жыл бұрын

What's crazy is LeBron just beat the team that had mvp, scoring title, second runner up dpoy, and coach of the year.

@adamleon9128 7 жыл бұрын

Whats crazy was that Curry just got back from injury, Queen James and NBA got Draymond suspended for a pivotal game 5, and Bogut got hurt . Lebron nut suckers overrate him to the extreme

@fluff975 7 жыл бұрын

he hasn't actually won those awards in the same year, but awards aren't everything...i believe that there was definitely a season in which he was the best scorer, defensive player and best player overall (he's been the best player in the game for over a decade now)

@InfinityRipper 7 жыл бұрын

This topic annoys me more than any other from Skip, he absolutely refuses to give LeBron his respect it's so irritating lol

@UncleJay27 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon has more lines than a million pairs of Adidas! lol

@InfinityRipper 7 жыл бұрын

lol for sure!

@InfinityRipper 7 жыл бұрын

glad someone knows who Bis is!

@loki1188 7 жыл бұрын

skip says lebron is the best today, but he won't go and call him the goat. that goes to jordan his airness

@rondostyle9532 7 жыл бұрын

Skips LBJ hate is getting boring. Get some new material. You've been eating off LeBrons name for 13 years. You should be paying him a part of that Fox/ESPN money for how much you speak his name

@VenomKpp 7 жыл бұрын

You can say the same thing about SAS hating on Tony Romo and the Spurs.

@rondostyle9532 7 жыл бұрын

Tony Romo yes. SAS at least respects the Spurs and acknowledges what they've accomplished.

@tigera6 7 жыл бұрын

whenever you mention Skip name, it should go together with Lebron, Tom Brady and the Cowboys

@ytsmokes1606 7 жыл бұрын

RondoStyle9 yup and Sharp is a big bronsexal

@OGMEDIAGROUP420 7 жыл бұрын

STOP!!! JUST STOP IT!!! THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER JORDAN!

@aliimran2422 6 жыл бұрын

OGMEDIAGROUP420 yeah there is some one better than him... His name is lebron james.

@Robert1211995 6 жыл бұрын

Ali Imran you are an idiot Lebron will never ever ever be better than Jordan ever ever ever.

@jspears19 5 жыл бұрын

OGMEDIAGROUP420 it could happen tho. Kobe was the closest thing. It’s gonna b a player that could do everything. Matter of fact KD is very close scoring wise.

@jazztravis6817 4 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!!! End of Story. I tried to told you. Mj is The Michael Jackson of Pop 🎶 Music. Hes The. Martin Luther 👑 King. Of the World. He the. Serena Williams of 🎾 I could go on. On a on. He Made jis Imprint

@lorenzomontoya7279 4 жыл бұрын

NEVER!

@mibrazil4702 7 жыл бұрын

😀😁😁😆 This why i love Shannon!!!

@karmankandola3924 7 жыл бұрын

Skip was sweating because he almost lost his job in this debate

@joji3108 7 жыл бұрын

Kuldip Kandola lol this guy exposes skip in ways Steven a smith couldn't imagine

@shine2345 7 жыл бұрын

No, not really.

@drewski103 7 жыл бұрын

+Kuldip Kandola lol I know right

@ytsmokes1606 7 жыл бұрын

Karman Kandola how lol this is all entertainment

@Tearstojoyministriesorg 6 жыл бұрын

Skip is the boss of the show!

@fudgematthew33 7 жыл бұрын

"Joy, will you buzz me when he's ready?" ROFL!!!

@jekken333 7 жыл бұрын

LBJ's 7 trips to the finals on 3-4 vs MJ's 6 trips on 6-0. It's pretty basic.

@moser3526 7 жыл бұрын

Mj Is way better

@MrSlashblade 7 жыл бұрын

MoSer™ MJ is better but I think Lebron is at least in the conversation.

@joedraw9192 7 жыл бұрын

LeBron second all time IMO

@alij8h 7 жыл бұрын

So is kobe

@htownblack9184 7 жыл бұрын

What is Mj better than Lebron at?

@joedraw9192 7 жыл бұрын

Edward Franklin What is LeBron better at then MJ? Playmaking? In the Finals, factoring in turnovers, they both average 3 a game. First 11 playoffs (the amount LeBron has been in) Assuming all assists = 2 points to account for the dfferent eras; LeBron is responsible for 54PPG, MJ would be responsible for 59.2PPG. MJ does it with less turnovers on a better FG%, clearly the better offensive player. Defensively it's even depending on how you look at it, IMO MJ a better 1 on 1, LeBron more versatile. Rebounding LeBron clearly better, averages 9.9 in the Finals. Accolades, MJ wins that easily. Advanced stats, MJ wins.

@PaulGreen11 7 жыл бұрын

"41 in game5, 41 in game6! Hee, heee, heeee!!!"

@jasoncorrell4122 7 жыл бұрын

Lebron is a great player but ge is the most overated basketball player ever. It's like this era took a player with the skill set of Scottie Pippen or Dominique Wilkins and tried to make him greater than he actually is. It started with the hype in high school and he lived up to that hype but as a pro he is not a top 5 player all time and that's where people who watch basketball not being bias see the hype

@loki1188 7 жыл бұрын

for real, there are so many lbj fans that act as his apologist as well

@pta8577 7 жыл бұрын

Check the all time PER.. Win shares and Value Over Player Replacement and say that again

@jojobuttons0401 7 жыл бұрын

Do you watch basketball? How is he not top 5 all time?

@loki1188 7 жыл бұрын

Josiah Silva he is definitely top 10, he'll probably finish top 5 though

@julchu0 7 жыл бұрын

Jason Correll he's not top 5? He's very well on his way to cement a top 4 spot. Right now maybe he's not because he's still playing but his resume speaks for itself.

@andouille1 11 ай бұрын

So good to find this nugget. Ah was fun while it lasted

@internetbeef 11 ай бұрын

😢 agreed brother

@MichaelLim88 7 жыл бұрын

JORDAN = GOAT.

@joshripka1841 5 жыл бұрын

@jazztravis6817 4 жыл бұрын

Period

@mohamadosman7451 4 жыл бұрын

Jazz Travis nope

@jacobhenderson7357 7 жыл бұрын

8:18 Shannon's face

@harrycarter4680 7 жыл бұрын

agree with skip

@jordan7985 7 жыл бұрын

Michael Jordan deadly 3pt shot? really? and from 1994-95 to 1996-97 where his 3pt% was much higher, the 3 pt line was shortened so those seasons need an astericks.

@jamesgavin9765 7 жыл бұрын

and MJ gets a pass for being "solo" yet Lebron doesn't. Curry not 100% out there and a excuse is made. Yet Lebron doesn't have kyrie and love and he gets no pass. The Lebron standard is insane

@TamacStillium 7 жыл бұрын

James Gaving, steph curry was not 100%, thats a fact not an excuse, also lebron and the cavs beat the GS thats a fact not an excuse. regarding the 2015 nba finals a disagree with you, i do think that lebron got a pass and ever will have one every time you bring the fact that irving and love were injured, however, he will not get a pass for the 2011 nba finals against the mavs and we all know why.

@arturoluna475 7 жыл бұрын

LeBron got a huge pass for losing to GSW in 2015. You want to talk about double standards? How about this one 'Lebron had no help, he carries the team' & 'Lebron makes his teammates so much better!' how can you have NO help and then say you make your teammates way better? it's one or the other

@Bballgamer7182954 7 жыл бұрын

There's a difference Arturo. He makes his teammates better but they have to at least have the talent. He can't make a bunch of scrubs stars. No one can. But put a great shooter around LeBron or a Tristan Thompson and they will thrive.

@arturoluna475 7 жыл бұрын

Brandon Polo let me tell you where that double standard came frkm. I remember before LeBron left Cleveland, the cavs were winning over 60 games a year for a good stretch. That's when people said he was making others better. Then, after getting bounced year after year by teams that seemed to be on the same level as the cavs, it flipped to 'he has no help'. I don't agree with that, if he made his teams good enough to win in the high 60's, then he had enough help.

@Bballgamer7182954 7 жыл бұрын

Well playoffs and regular season separate good from great players. You see when they won 66 games in the regular season, the 2nd best player on that team was Mo Williams and then a bunch of role players. There was never pressure in the regular season and they were playing many mediocre teams. And when you play great teams, the great teams don't always perform because it's just the regular season. But when it comes to the playoffs, all the other great teams who had multiple great players with great support performed and went all out as every game mattered. But it's then that LeBron's "help" is exposed. Because players like Mo Williams feel the nerves now and the role players don't perform as well, especially in close games. So before you judge whether or not a player had enough help, don't look at regular season wins. Look at the players around him and ask yourself if they can step up in big games and perform to their regular season standards instead of folding under pressure, leaving LeBron to have to do everything.

@jaysaget1280 7 жыл бұрын

I promise you, this is literally the best part of this debate 8:59. Shannon had Skip so scare, if Skip was a cop, he'd shoot Shannon 84 times.

@jordanegbuna9984 7 жыл бұрын

Jay Sagét. oh shoot you're right 😂😂

@jaynice7214 4 жыл бұрын

Lol like Shannon number

@WoodneyJuste 7 жыл бұрын

Lol this show had me rolling! 😂😂😂

@vip_supercars3652 7 жыл бұрын

we all know if Green wasn't suspended for game 5 that golden state would have won the finals

@vip_supercars3652 7 жыл бұрын

Connor Smith the momentum swung in game 5, Golden State had the momentum prior to game 5, when they lost Green for game 5 they lost the momentum and then Golden State lost Bogut and Iggy in game 6, which would not have happened if they won game 5 with Green playing

@antonioguglielmetti2661 3 жыл бұрын

I think they would've won in 6 if green was back for game 5

@julien156 7 жыл бұрын

Lebron is great but let's be real Jordan played in a much tougher era. like he played The Mailman in back to back finals, who is the SECOND leading scorer in NBA history.... but no one cares about Karl Malone. the league was crazy deep in the 90s. and if Jordan didn't retire, they would've swept the 90s. that's 8 rings b

@silverspadelord 7 жыл бұрын

you're right

@AegonnTargaryenn 7 жыл бұрын

Calixte Hamner lebron played the spurs 3 times, and historically great warriors teams, hes had tougher competition in the finals than mj

@julien156 7 жыл бұрын

He's had tougher competition? let's review: 1991: Magic Johnson 1992: Clyde Drexler 1993: MVP Charles Barkley 1996: Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp 1997-98: All Time assists Leader John Stockton and Mr. 36,928 Points himself...Karl Malone. not to mention the Ewings, Reggies, and Bad Boys he had to beat to get there... yeahhhhh you right... Lebron had better comp. lol foh joe

@AlexA-zk6lg 7 жыл бұрын

2007 prime tony parker and tim duncan spurs team that was 8 deep 2012: Kevin Durant, Russel Westbrook, James Harden 2013/2014: Spurs (Goat franchise) Kawhi, tp, danny green 2015/2016: Warriors MVP steph curry best shooter ever, klay thompson 10 deep 73-9 team yeah dude. lebron had no competition?

@dte8329 7 жыл бұрын

Malone was a playoff choker, and Jordan played in a watered down league.

@pabloramos1462 7 жыл бұрын

personally shannon is dellusional , everything he says must be right . skip was making good points in this debate shannon just yells and speaks non sense

@milosstancic5566 6 жыл бұрын

Those sounds and faces Shanon makes are the best...hahahha..:D :D

@jamierhunt7725 Жыл бұрын

“Answer me, Now!” Shannon funny asf 😂

@MrNate736 7 жыл бұрын

My Favorite line in this debate was when skip said no kyrie Irving got tired of LeBron bricking shots and said that give me the ball so I can shoot it and win the game. Mane I was on the floor rolling laughing. They both have good points. Still taking MJ though. Hands down. GOAT.

@jonathanshoucair374 7 жыл бұрын

I love you Shannon.

@lochquatch8896 Жыл бұрын

this is just amazing after watching this show for so long. never watched the first year.

@keithpalacios9417 6 жыл бұрын

Love the dog analogy. I'm using that one. Giving up isn't an option.

@FuckTheOpps95 7 жыл бұрын

LeBron when he was with the Heat people say he was in his prime he was there from 2010-2014 and only won two rings with the help of Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh and Mario Chalmers. How can LeBron be the great when his finals appearances doesn't match his wins. LeBron is only great for blocking, stealing, and going to the rim that is all. LeBron sucks at shooting and won't ever be compared to Jordan. I remember when LeBron said Miami Heat will win 8 championships and they only won 2 😂😂😂 what a joke.

@connorsmith6517 7 жыл бұрын

Scarecrow Perez Lebron has a jump shot it just comes and goes. But if Lebron had a consistent jumper he would he GOAT

@AegonnTargaryenn 7 жыл бұрын

Scarecrow Perez u lost credibility when u mentioned mario chalmers

@3pace22 7 жыл бұрын

Scarecrow Perez lol you're an idiot if you thought they were actually going to win 8 titles that was just too pump the crowd up

@FuckTheOpps95 7 жыл бұрын

Jayy Nice He couldn't even with all 4 lololol i never take him serious jus goin by his own words

@raiders10003 7 жыл бұрын

lebron is actually a better all-around player. jordan was the better scorer

@BigBrandonMarcel 7 жыл бұрын

Finally someone mentioned how bad the West was during the 80's!!!

@sochillcyp 7 жыл бұрын

this debate is awesome....I love facts...

@DemecosChambers 7 жыл бұрын

I love how Shannon brings it!

@ScholarVisual 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Shanon for saying all the arguments Stephen never made!!!!

@calvingowdy1234 6 жыл бұрын

Why is there always an excuse every time lebron loses in the final??!!! They always claiming he needed help well damn!!!! How much help does he need????

@Ubafunksta 7 жыл бұрын

When Shannon talks about the age of the Celtics when Jordan eventually got through the playoffs...... reminds me of the barber shop discussion by Eddie Murphy in Coming to America. ".....Joe Lewis was 72 years old when Rocky Marciano beat him...." 😂

@vijaykrishnamoorthi818 4 жыл бұрын

There chemistry have gotten sm better

@luistellez1655 7 жыл бұрын

hahaha ANSWER ME NOW

@klint1755 7 жыл бұрын

How do you hate on someone who led BOTH teams in every major stat in the last NBA final?

@trenellfulcher1717 7 жыл бұрын

Becuz people are closed minded #teamlbj

@BladeNV123 7 жыл бұрын

ensayofr Not even close to Way better. He MIGHT have been better, he might not have. You can say that his team was WAY better. That's why MJ is overrated. MJ had 7 allstars. They were losing to the Utah Jazz and Pistons before Scottie Pippen was in his prime and they had allstars. Lebron led the 2007, 2009, 2015, and 2016 Cavs to the finals when they wouldn't have even been in the playoffs not to mention beating a team like the 96 bulls. Lebron had 8 coaches in 4 years. MJ had one which was the best coach in SPORTS history. There are a lot of factors that make Lebron just as good, if not better.

@BladeNV123 7 жыл бұрын

ensayofr He never only had 2 all stars it was always a great team in the finals. Lebron went to the finals 2 times with good teams, that's it.

@takerfan4ever 7 жыл бұрын

Not WAY better. Just better.. as of now

@takerfan4ever 7 жыл бұрын

ensayofr are u referring to 2014?

@donyeajones4085 7 жыл бұрын

Lol dawg I was crying when he said "answer me NOOOOW"

@youssefhamidi8152 6 жыл бұрын

Shannon is pure gold. I havent laughed this hard in a longtime. Truly the most entertaining man in sports today.

@thelitlighter6297 7 жыл бұрын

Why do ppl penalize LeBron for advancing in the playoffs? 3-4? The fact that he has made it there is a better acomplishment than rather losing in the conference finals. 3-4, 7 finals appearances > 3-0 ,3 finals appearances

@Bballgamer7182954 7 жыл бұрын

exactly. People would rather be 6-0 than 6-6 because 6-0 "sounds better". I'd rather be 3-4 than 3-0.

@xJinRaGna 7 жыл бұрын

You'd really wanna lose 4 NBA finals? That's a LIE.

@Bballgamer7182954 7 жыл бұрын

Rather win 3 and lose 4 then just win 3 and never make it again

@xJinRaGna 7 жыл бұрын

Brandon Polo Sorry but most people would rather go on vacation instead of playing 2-3 extra months of disappointment.

@Bballgamer7182954 7 жыл бұрын

Sure, but I'd rather hear "they went out in the finals last year" rather than "first round exits"

@manonthemoon2815 7 жыл бұрын

He's #2 behind mj

@chrisnelson5343 5 жыл бұрын

14 : 50 I love it when a plan comes together

@beenina9972 6 жыл бұрын

Best ever 1. MJ 2.Kobe 3.Magic 4. Isaiah Thomas 5. Curry

@TheFadedSpade35 5 жыл бұрын

lol

@vstevanovic187 7 жыл бұрын

Only Kobe comes near MJ, no one else

@Shadow-nj6cr 7 жыл бұрын

If you don't include centers, Kobe is Top 5

@lumleyphillip8675309 7 жыл бұрын

Facts. Kobe is more skilled than Lebron.

@vstevanovic187 7 жыл бұрын

No, I don't include centers and power forwards, because those positions are completely different than the other 3. Kobe is close no.2 for me. If he had Lebron's teams in those years when he had to carry Smush and co. he would have probably won another ring, and probably 1 or 2 extra mvps, which would put him shoulder next to MJ, and only slightly differences would decide who's better

@BigBrandonMarcel 7 жыл бұрын

Ok that makes no sense to not have centers and power forwards as they are a part of the game... Your list is basically guards then.. Also saying if Kobe didn't have to carry Smush and Co he...blah blah blah...well if James was blessed with a prime Shaq he would be sitting on 7 rings about now.

@NoorAli-bm1fr 7 жыл бұрын

I don't include kobe when your whole being is another person and not yourself everything in kobe arsenal was Mike ..I like players who have thier own identity

@rashardstallworth9240 7 жыл бұрын

Lebron actually shot .520 from the field 2015-2016 season and .525 in the playoff. He averaged 29 points, 11 Rebounds, and 8 assists in the Finals against the team with the best record in the NBA. He led the Finals in points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. Ijs Check the stats. Then speak on it. Put some Respeck on that man name.

@KyleAPemberton 4 жыл бұрын

No he didn't you fool. He got a that higha field goal percentage cause of his ability to drive to the basket and get layups and dunks. His shooting from outside of 8 feet is atrocious. Look it up please and be quiet.

@Spvcely 7 жыл бұрын

Skip got exposed 😢

@lepptdeff8701 7 жыл бұрын

When he said the fantastic 4 at golden state I died😂😂

@w00t777 7 жыл бұрын

Look, the fact is Lebron is great, probably the greatest SF. But Jordan was at another level

@mlking213 7 жыл бұрын

Ray Allen saves lebron legacy but what did Steve Kerr do?

@pjmcray101 7 жыл бұрын

Dont forget about Paxson in the 93 finals

@ArshdeepSingh-gq3rw 7 жыл бұрын

It's because Jordan was double teamed what else can he do. It was a smart move to draw the defense. They double themed MJ because he knew he was clutch. Lbj however missed a 3 and bosh got the board and Ray hit the 3

@ArshdeepSingh-gq3rw 7 жыл бұрын

Also if Ray missed it the Spurs would have won and if Kerr missed it it would have turned it into a game 7 so MJ would still have a chance

@cdplaya1973 7 жыл бұрын

Kerr and Paxson didn't save MJ legacy like Ray saved LBJs legacy they never saved MJ because the Bulls were never down in the series at that point the only time there were down in all 6 finals was after gm1 in 91 and gm1 in 98 they only thing they saved MJ from was a gm7 that's it and the reason both times was still because of MJ in 93 when Paxson hit the 3 MJ who had 14 in the qtr was the only Bull to score til then in 98 Kerr scored off the double on MJ which they discussed in the timeout before

@cdplaya1973 7 жыл бұрын

If the Bulls lose they still have game 7 if Miami lose they lose the series BIG difference

@SpecialKballin 7 жыл бұрын

This debate is brilliant

@wajahat109 5 жыл бұрын

That block was one the greatest individual defensive plays ever

@ifeellikeyeezus8525 7 жыл бұрын

Skip is so right on this one. Lebum is nothing compared to Jordan. He will NEVER be the GOAT.

@antonioguglielmetti2661 3 жыл бұрын

Shannon refuses to realize the mental factor of basketball

@jacklee8414 7 жыл бұрын

LeBron's opponents are really under rated. If Duncan had played for the Lakers or the Celtics, he probably would ranked above Magic/Bird. He played 19 years, Bird only 13, Duncan have better stats and more titles, and don't have a Kareem. Kevin Durant probably is better than Bird in skills, he shoots better, more athletic. Curry shoots much better than Magic, 400 3s, 50/40/90, not a good defender, but still would take him above Stockton. Duncan, Durant, Curry probably ranks above Malone, Stockton, Barkley and Drexler.

@patinho5589 7 жыл бұрын

Jack Lee Bird WAY ahead of Durant in basketball IQ and passing and will to win and leadership.

@jacklee8414 7 жыл бұрын

Patinho I understand the sentimental value and Bird/Magic saved the league stuff, but Bird played 13 years, 10 good years, 5 elite, top 5 MVP type of year. He was also on a great team. Ask Skip, if he can give 5 memorable Bird playoff moments. Skip said Magic developed a reliable 3pt shot later in the year, just checked, shoots 0.286, 0.200,0.296 in his last 3 playoffs.

@raiders10003 7 жыл бұрын

lebron went up against better perimeter talent

@shermanrobinson4293 7 жыл бұрын

They are not better than Malone. Suggest you look up Malones stats

@jacklee8414 7 жыл бұрын

ensayofr Barkley's Sun lost with 3-1 advantage, Seattle was the first 1 seed lost to a 8th seed.

@michaellui74 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon doesn't know what he is talking about Michael and celtics are almost differ era's. Shannon stick to football. this era of basketball is a cake walk compare to Jordan era..

@Mostillist 7 жыл бұрын

so it wasn't a cake walk when jordam got to 3 straight finals twice with weak west opponents in the finals. jordan never had to face the spurs with kawhi or a 73 win team or a stacked okc team none of those teams from the 90's could beat the teams bron faced

@jorgiecrew205 7 жыл бұрын

this was so awesome

@Nojoke4sure 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon my dude! killing skip

@htownblack9184 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon just destroyed every lebron hater who exists

@adambarett8629 7 жыл бұрын

If Lebron scored 63 and got swept skip would say he didn't do enough, Michael scored 63 and got swept and it's looked back on as one of the greatest performances.

@QCongress83 7 жыл бұрын

Why does Skip scrutinize LeBron for losing Game 4 at his house, but excuses Steph for losing TWO games at his house to LeBron and Kyrie? Skip still can't let go of the fact that the Heat beat his Spurs in 2013.

@Brooklyn94269 7 жыл бұрын

The sound of Skip stuttering his responses to Shannon makes me cheer like a 6 year old

@BenDover-hh8hx 7 жыл бұрын

Shannon put skip on the ropes 😂

@chewyyo3383 7 жыл бұрын

Lebrun was the one who shot the 3 pointer before Kyrie last shot to make it 89-89

@ballerintheair 7 жыл бұрын

14:43 his laugh kills me😂😂

@TheFly212 7 жыл бұрын

He could retire right now, today, and he'd most certainly be top 5 of all time. I think in 5 or so years, when LeBron retires, he'll be top 3. Maybe if he manages to win a few more rings, top 2.