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@poly_hexamethyl2 жыл бұрын
This is my first time watching fencing and it's pretty amazing. They're so fast that even at 0.25x slo-mo I often can't tell who won!
@GeneralG18102 жыл бұрын
LOL I know right I'm watching and saying to myself "Cool, but I have no idea what's happening right now!"
@davidhidalgo62782 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe this comment what are you a sloth? How can you think they are fast, plus they are so predictable that is funny and lame! You should see real martial arts in a real japanese academy, thats fast and real and useful this is a kids game compare to that or well conpare to anything is just a kids game!!!
@GeneralG18102 жыл бұрын
@@davidhidalgo6278 Yeah righto mate, no doubt you could beat all of these guys with one leg tied up too couldn't you
@Baerschi1002 жыл бұрын
@@davidhidalgo6278 Chubby keyboard Warrior
@davidhidalgo62782 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralG1810 not like that but im prett sure in real life they will not stand a chance 100% guaranteed, this is a sport for pussies get serious they will not survive 1 minute in the guetto pal
@iainmcclure4163 жыл бұрын
No.3 has fantastic stuff for coaching. On the back line, the defender generates masses of distraction / confusion. This slows the attacker right down. The prime-riposte finish is made possible by really hard, tactically intelligent set up. Bravo!
@theotheratticus2 жыл бұрын
I too, was really impressed by this played it again a few times haha
@pcost2 жыл бұрын
Prime really? Looks a tierce.
@mikeyhilmer64813 жыл бұрын
Ref's reaction at 1:45 is priceless
@Thegameshadow13 жыл бұрын
1:46 even the ref was like "Dayum son".
@Shep013 жыл бұрын
Nothing more satisfying then just lightly tagging the lead arm of a attacker on a back pedal.
@herrdrizzt95473 жыл бұрын
More satisfying is to break his fingers :)
@maximilianniedziejko79422 жыл бұрын
Wrist touches are way more satisfying
@cmw122 жыл бұрын
How about finishing a badass compound attack?
@celestialtoystore2 жыл бұрын
It's called an Oh Sanguk special lol
@kookurikapooh2 жыл бұрын
It's the weirdest and most convoluted game of tag that I have ever seen, that's for sure.
@EannaWithAFada3 жыл бұрын
I swear some fencers are actually just jedi not normal people
@SwordTune3 жыл бұрын
Eh, hard to say when most of them haven't translated their sport fencing to something like highlands broadsword, polish sabre, backsword, rapier, or longsword.
@SlicerSabre3 жыл бұрын
@@SwordTune Because Jedi are renowned for their use of highlands broadswords
@SwordTune3 жыл бұрын
@@SlicerSabre Count Dookoo's use of makashi is said to be inspired by fencing, but it mirrors the styles used a few centuries back more than it does modern styles. I've practised the broadsword positions, so I feel that and similar styles like the backsword are well represented.
@ethanebang75073 жыл бұрын
Sabre is a very hard sword to do but I just happen to be one at 9 years old, got my first medal in my 3rd competition, first gold at the 5th never actually started at foil, just went up directly to Sabre
@SwordTune3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanebang7507 You wot mate? Call me old fashioned, but I think it is imperative to begin at foil. Then, one may choose to go onto sabre or epee, ideally both. It's just improper to jump into sabre without proper training. I took a bloody exam on directing bouts, guiding drills, and vocabulary. I wasn't allowed to hold a sword until after a month of pure footwork. And even then, it was just footwork with the foil! Kids these days, where's the discipline?
@Demphure3 жыл бұрын
number 10 took some balls to pull off at a tie. Number 4 is something I've only ever seen in foil
@samsignorelli3 жыл бұрын
A foil friend of mine did that same move in a sabre bout years ago....i think it was the only time he DID sabre. The look on his opponent's face was priceless!
@rambi8250 Жыл бұрын
Well it’s fairly common in foil
@duchi8823 жыл бұрын
*"Tag! You're it!"*
@callmeandoru26272 жыл бұрын
3:23 person on the left be like: Your tactics confuse and frighten me sir
@celestialtoystore2 жыл бұрын
The touch by Gemesi on Samele was borderline contemptuous. Samele is a great sport to have taken that so well.
@ShaneusSnake Жыл бұрын
Can you explain why that is to a non fencer? Is it because there was a more efficient touch available?
@celestialtoystore Жыл бұрын
@@ShaneusSnake It was the sheer audacity of that little nick on the retreat. Gemesi was in essence 'showing off' with his preparatory bounce which instead of launching into a direct attack or a parry/riposte as would have been expected, turned into an opportunistic touch. It was very cheeky.
@ShaneusSnake Жыл бұрын
@@celestialtoystore Thank you!
@christianalbertjahns25773 жыл бұрын
This is one of many reasons that fencing is the ultimate big brain sport, not just a swordfighting sport.
@Amatureb11 ай бұрын
absolutely. A lot of people don't realise how much strategy and technique and quick thinking is required.
@flynnbailey47499 ай бұрын
Bro the directors reaction to the riposte at 1:46 is priceless lmaooo
@CyrusofChaos3 жыл бұрын
Funny how whenever Szilágyi gets hit by one of these he looks like he's trying to find a way to protest the touch Btw 10 only happened because Kim wasn't ready when the ref called fence but didn't want to stop and risk a card 😂
@christianalbertjahns25773 жыл бұрын
Funny that he got touched as he got advantage of early action yet he still want to protest the touch
@archardor33923 жыл бұрын
@@christianalbertjahns2577 On one match Szilagyi made a fuss when the referee forgot to give him a touch, he didnt add it on the scoreboard. That is ok and the referee added it. Few actions later Szilagyi scored, the referee added the touch and Szilagyi or the other fencer protested about something. They talked a bit and at the end the referee gave Szilagyi another touch, he forgot he had already given the point to him and just gave him another one after they stopped talking. No card or anything, he just didnt remember he had already changed the score so basically Szilagyi got a point for free. No one on the venue noticed at the time though or said anything. Szilagyi vs Xu T16.11 touch was awarded normally and 12th touch was given free to Szilgyi. Cannot remember the competition though :/ Something in 2019 or last competition of 2020
@christianalbertjahns25773 жыл бұрын
@@archardor3392 from what I've read from you, the cause is probably confusion from ref and some others. The first time Szilagyi protested, he absolutely had the right to do so. The second time though, I see it was caused by confusion. I can't see that it was because Szilagyi wanted some free touch by tricking the ref. Apparently Szilagyi is a good guy, or at least the guy presents himself as a good guy.
@archardor33923 жыл бұрын
@@christianalbertjahns2577 Oh, definitely. He didn't get the touch by trickery, it was sheer confusion. But Szilagyi noticed and didn't protest his free touch either so that is also to be accounted for.
@roitester1663 жыл бұрын
Casares hitting the riposte when his opponent tried to do hit "dolphin step" back at him is amazing.
@someingeborg2093 жыл бұрын
I love people who compare Star Wars with fencing
@mandolindleyroadshow706 Жыл бұрын
The best touches I saw were by Michele Maffei. He had a slow tempo riposte (often a belly cut) that was unique among saber fencers.
@ScoptOriginal2 жыл бұрын
This is what I love about fencing. Number 2 is my favourite, one I've tried more than once.
@canoloth3 жыл бұрын
I like the touch of Apithy vs Szilagyi.
@roicandaule92683 жыл бұрын
I also do like it, the trap is perfectly set.
@justjordan80182 жыл бұрын
Just love a sport where you don't and will never see what happened no matter of the video quality.
@SHEPDEV_ONLINE2 жыл бұрын
HA!! The algorithm brought me here and I am gonna be in a perplexed state for the next few hours trying to sort these "touches" out.
@ballincat34_2 жыл бұрын
1:21 they had us in the first half
@sambarrett27112 жыл бұрын
1:47 you can see even the ref was impressed
@octaandrade41193 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of video I like to see in my main page. Great work!!
@carolinageyer78423 жыл бұрын
10/10!! #SEVEN (Szilagyi vs. Apithy) and #ONE are my favorites!! #8 reminded me of: "...foilist." #4 was great, and #3 was great calm and creativity in that tight distance.... was the Female Saberist on the right Cecelia Berder? Thank you so much! Avid Fencer Fanatic (and obviously saberist). :D
@SlicerSabre3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's Berder, glad you liked it!
@hamsandwich68563 жыл бұрын
Ahhh number 9, the fabled "startled cat" technique.
@Mezzy..10 ай бұрын
0:38 these guys have excellent counter attacks. This dude hit the guy literally while jumping in the air dodging the flurry of swings knowing the perfect time to strike. 2:18 this dude hit the guy while literally ducking under his swing like the godamn matrix
@abzhz101handle92 жыл бұрын
Number 8. Straight out of an old Italian rapier manual. (not saying they're the same weapon, but it's good to see what works by mechanics can just... work) Number 4. Variation on a smallsword move.
@jumpingsloth39632 жыл бұрын
Their movements remind me of when I was a kid playing tag. The one being chased would gas out and youd have a tag back battle lol.
@yocats99742 жыл бұрын
The number one is such a tiny gentle touch, like a little tap on the opponent's belly
@ginnungagap9793 Жыл бұрын
The guy that turned around to get his opponent was pretty damn impressive.
@Melpheos1er2 жыл бұрын
The N°3 is brilliant
@ethanebang75073 жыл бұрын
You earn my subscription my guy
@samsignorelli3 жыл бұрын
#4....dear God, #4! #2....like a maneuvering kill in air to air combat. #1...a bouncing attack so epic, even the Koreans are saying "Dayaaaaaammmm!"
@ohAppo3 жыл бұрын
And if Koreans react with “Dayaaam” it means you have done a great job hahaahhah
@Novastar.SaberCombat2 жыл бұрын
Aaaand this is why saber remains the most interesting of the three western styles: Vectors and the cutting edge. 💪😎🤟 Those gaining + 'flying' advances were especially awesome. No X-step required, either.
@praveenasomu90532 жыл бұрын
This is Amazing
@feedthesnake33942 жыл бұрын
mad respect, because i have no idea what i'm watching.
@bigbadwolf6256 Жыл бұрын
As a fencer I watch also other duals with other weapons but that goes so slow, fencing is the real deal.
@nobigdeal80782 жыл бұрын
Number 7 dude was beyond. Pretending he’s laggin to appeal to the emotions of his competition, and won. Oof...
@charliecccc52412 жыл бұрын
2:34 when Gerek Meinhart does saber 😂
@TwiceToronto3 жыл бұрын
the second last one. the one with OH is the best. No fancy blade contact so very clear to everyone.
@davidmicahnik9690 Жыл бұрын
Multi angles and s lo-mo 4:12 4:12 make it more comprehensible to the tyro spectator.
@susanwang49722 жыл бұрын
Hello Slicer Sabre thank you for the excellent compilation! :) Might you know the identity of the USA fencer at 1:47 (#6)?
@ericr1542 жыл бұрын
Even in slow mo I could understand what happened in most of these.
@bregonwebb8921 Жыл бұрын
the infighting 5 behind the back does it for me next is the second intention attack to the guard for a parry reposte towards the beginning
@alvinawu7728 Жыл бұрын
I think the 2nd one was the best because it’s so crazy how he just slashed his opponent and won.
@aerainai2 жыл бұрын
the 3rd one is really epic!
@aerainai2 жыл бұрын
3rd to the last*
@Sarcastitonea2 жыл бұрын
would love these kinds of videos to have some kind of arrow, explanation, anything. Can hardly tell where the sabre is, let alone what is happening :'(
@margravesharky15202 жыл бұрын
Not sure why I expected this to be HEMA saber (curved blades, cutting, etc), but am pleasantly surprised to watch some fencing.
@fernandoromero9906 Жыл бұрын
Which is the most popular style?, what are the advantages/disadvantages of one over the others?
@f96582 жыл бұрын
These guys will be experts if in the future only melee weapons existed in a war which instantly vaporizes people when they get touched by it.
@thespacetime Жыл бұрын
Petition to officially change the term "touch" in this sport to make it cooler. Its not really a high bar to achieve. Unless people still want to touch each other for a couple more decades to come.
@MorganLefeuvre Жыл бұрын
1:47 you can even see the face of the referee like "wwow what a hit"
@makkavalley9144 Жыл бұрын
Touché
@timothychang8013 жыл бұрын
yaaaaa number 2
@mustbemeech2 ай бұрын
This is an interesting sport tbh
@I_live_in_your_walls.7 ай бұрын
I have no idea what made these touches creative.
@user-sy1md9dh6l2 жыл бұрын
The last is the best
@thelastunicorn161710 ай бұрын
I had to grab my glasses
@user-ky1xe3yd2m8 ай бұрын
If they srep out of the mat thing then if there r cards then do they get a card or lose and other win!?
@gaetangdrn3 жыл бұрын
2 is incredible
@christianalbertjahns25773 жыл бұрын
My comment: #10 : an unconventional second intention. probably happens more often in foil. it's quite conventional that Szilagyi made his own opening, in which Kim capitulated it. #9 : I can't see it other than good reaction from Hartung but somehow I can see that Hartung wanted to lure Montano to make mistake by using and he succeed. The execution, though, was quite sloppy but he got what he wanted. #8 : unconventional but the reason is not because it was creative (it was creative, obviously) but because it was illegal (or should be illegal). the green fencer (FotR) parried and delivered the riposte AFTER he turned his back. he should get a card. #7 : somehow I think Apithy didn't hear the referee quite clear, that's why he acted late. Nevertheless, he turned his tardiness to act into unintentional second intention. Impressive. #6 : a classical second intention that quite rare to see. classic second intention since the red fencer (FotL) feign a mistake (that is both distance and blade position "mistake") and then got absolutely ready to parry their opponent's attack #5 : ducking is quite unconventional. Kim K. managed to spring a distance trap but probably just like #9, the execution probably could be more smooth. If he didn't duck, the point would be Szatmari's (which was probably why Szatmari bited the bait) #4 : really look like foil touch. really clever move from red fencer but I can't see that he made that move intentionally. still a great touch. #3 : I can see that Berder(?) want to bait Kim into making mistake but somehow the touch was because her reaction. Great touch, nonetheless. #2 : in my opinion, this should be #1. really nice to see that Oh wanted to exploit the perceived threat of Korean bounce to get a point without making touch. probably unintentional but his over the top bounce convinces me otherwise. Oh made an over the top bounce without closing the distance is probably why his opponent got scared and reach the off-line. #1 : this is very great (though I think #2 is superior) but also not as weird as many would think since I see it as classic distance trap repertoire with weird execution (since the goal is the same: make a distance trap). the trap got sprung so brilliantly. very great touch.
@turkeyphant2 жыл бұрын
Best comment.
@Shiznittlebizbampop12 жыл бұрын
Okay it seems like you are the PERFECT person for me to ask this question to. Because I came to the comment section to either just leave a comment asking this or hopefully finding someone talking about it. But what happened in the first match? (Or I guess I should say match #10) No matter how slow I play it, I still can't see or figure out what happened? I'M SO CONFUSED!!! lol I just can't see the touch no matter how hard I try, so I hope you can explain it to me considering you have a good understanding of what's happening in this entire compilation. I hope you're having a good day by the way :)
@christianalbertjahns25772 жыл бұрын
@@Shiznittlebizbampop1 well I don't know whether you are new to fencing or not but here we go. First thing first, sabre (which is the discipline shown in this video) is the most fast paced and reactive combat and because of that, most of the time, the fencers immediately lunge or make other premeditated actions. This is also the reason why fencers are prone to jump the gun (and it's penalized to do so). Let's go to the #10 touch. After the referee said "allez" (which means essentially "commence" or "start fencing/fighting"), Szilagyi (at the right of the referee) happens to start earlier than Kim (at the left). Kim probably thought Szilagyi jumped the gun or he didn't hear the ref himself but he decided not to ask the ref to halt the bout. Szilagyi probably thought that the ref would halt the bout and relaxed his stance and at that moment Kim threw an attack at Szilagyi and scored a point (and since it was his 15th point, he won the match). Looking back again, I think all of this was intentional. Regardless, it's a brilliant touch
@Shiznittlebizbampop12 жыл бұрын
@@christianalbertjahns2577 To answer your question I am fairly new, but have always as long as I can remember been very interested in fencing. But as of actually diving in (Apart from going to a class. So pretty much just watching videos of matches.) I haven't very much, but I have been watching and trying to learn as much as I could for the past couple of months. So considering the video/round I asked about, I could see why I was so confused because it's definitely a genius move. Because I thought the referee would have stopped the fight before he made the point, or would have not counted it because as you said he "jumped the gun" so thank you very much for explaining it.
@juanandres72612 жыл бұрын
I feel like those anime background characters that can't see anything important during the protagonist's battle
@mesmerae2 жыл бұрын
Number 6 🤺
@jojostar88412 жыл бұрын
Just thinking about silver chariot right now
@Xavaje2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time ever watching this sport. Damn these people are fast? I can see how their footwork would be very useful in boxing and MMA. But I have a some questions. 1. Is there a string or wire attached to their back? I couldn't see it on all of them, so I'm not sure if that's what I'm seeing, but if they are, why do they need that? 2. The swords are so fast it's almost like they're using it as a whip. How can the judges see it to score the points? I can barely see it the hit land in slow motion, how can the judges see it in real time? 3. Who in fencing would be considered the "Michael Jordan" or "Muhammed Ali" of Fencing? Who is the GOAT of this sport? I really want to see their highlights to see if I can see the difference in skill level. Mad respect to the sport of Fencing. That shit looks hard AF! 👊🏼👏🏼🤝🏼
@SlicerSabre2 жыл бұрын
The fencers are attached to an electric scoring machine that turns on a light if they land a hit. If you watch enough fencing you don't really need to see the actual blade to understand where it is, it's a bit like hockey where it can be difficult to see the puck but if you watch enough you can follow where it is. The GOAT of sabre fencing is a contentious issue but the strongest contender is probably Aron Szilagyi who has won gold at the last three Olympic games.
@velzing222 жыл бұрын
Excellent Question and answer. My curiosity answered
@doge_can_swim6405 Жыл бұрын
why cant foilists have a youtube channel this good
@justinthawsetmyo41732 ай бұрын
OH Sanguk just started using mind games
@skyeslattery7897 ай бұрын
I thought that the behind the back touch was the best!
@bekaraarapan4963 жыл бұрын
Bravo
@nikvas_2 жыл бұрын
You love to see it
@ethanebang75073 жыл бұрын
Sabre is a very hard sword to do but I just happen to be one at 9 years old, got my first medal in my 3rd competition, first gold at the 5th never actually started at foil, just went up directly to Sabre
@erichvondonitz53252 жыл бұрын
This is a rapier
@kevin48522 жыл бұрын
Ehhmm no? This is sabre fencing
@erichvondonitz53252 жыл бұрын
@@kevin4852 Then why tf the swords are straight and thin and not curved like a sabre is? If you know, please teach me
@kevin48522 жыл бұрын
@@erichvondonitz5325 Sure thing, I myself am a fencer too. In Olympic or modern fencer you have 3 weapons Sabre, epee and foil. You can see what weapon it is by looking at the guard and weapon length. This weapon is an Sabre because if you look at the guard it’s connected from the blade to the beginning of the handle. What’s more is that you can score touches with the blade itself and not only with the point. With epee and foil you can only score touches with the point. The weapon in Olympic or modern fencing that is the rapier is epee. If you have any other questions I’ll be glad to explain :)
@dargus17182 жыл бұрын
@@kevin4852 Doesn't look like a sabre though.
@alexthegreat383 жыл бұрын
Who would win: a Georgian sabreur or one hoppy boi
@raihanz46172 жыл бұрын
imma go for the boi
@donatomonaco1202 жыл бұрын
The last one
@frederico1579 Жыл бұрын
A maior parte dos pontos é feita em contra ataque(?),o melhor é esperar pelo adversário!
@Chroma710 Жыл бұрын
Competitive tag but both are the seekers.
@SlicerSabre3 жыл бұрын
Which touches did I miss?
@MegaLester20003 жыл бұрын
instagram.com/p/B7MG_icpYNk/
@lonilie3 жыл бұрын
yakimenko sabre drop
@samsignorelli3 жыл бұрын
@@lonilie That's a whole different vid.
@CyrusofChaos3 жыл бұрын
Lester Kurvers 😂😂
@marcualexandrufencing63253 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb5kqNuTvryWiH0.html&t Second 1:25. 🤺😉
@romin5269 Жыл бұрын
1:45 cold blooded
@lukehaynes84873 жыл бұрын
Whoever filmed number 6 deserves a medal, right? @cyrusofchaos ;)
@SlicerSabre3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service
@CyrusofChaos3 жыл бұрын
Luke Haynes it's in the mail
@susanwang49722 жыл бұрын
@@CyrusofChaos who is the USA fencer? Thank you :)
@CyrusofChaos2 жыл бұрын
@@susanwang4972 Luke Linder
@iainballas Жыл бұрын
They don't ask how, they ask how many.
@Phyx1u5 Жыл бұрын
why do they have that leash?
@safa10842 жыл бұрын
num 4 was the best parry riposte behind back the only actually creative one.
@pascalbaryamo45682 жыл бұрын
I liked 3 for the low guard ^^ (I’m not a sabre/epee fencer but HEMA so I love different guards)
@davonbc3 жыл бұрын
What are those things attached to there backs on a string for?
@DtLS2 жыл бұрын
Wires and a tether for the scoring equipment.
@elynarandrew93593 жыл бұрын
💙💙💙
@iamswamp6971 Жыл бұрын
Where i can find this vid? 3:47
@sycadelic6662 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand a single moment of this. Makes me want to go down and join my local fencing club when this pandemic allows training to resume again
@caseydubois36452 жыл бұрын
7 is a play straight out of Fiore
@crouchingwombathiddenquoll56412 жыл бұрын
No idea who was winning, very fast ? The olden days ,I imagine the scarlet fountain would help identify the winner.
@scotthall27433 жыл бұрын
When only Sabre fencing pops up on ur recommend but ur a foil fencer 😐
@jaymieli71307 ай бұрын
9 is best and creative it is definitely best🎉🎉
@cmw122 жыл бұрын
What’s with the vertical jumping?
@TheCornfieldGamer2 жыл бұрын
It's primarily a way to make it hard for the defender to judge distance, but it also gives the attacker more time to react and build an attack
@roitester1663 жыл бұрын
What am I missing in #3? Doesn't she just miss and hit the back of the prime parry?
@Leo-sd6pw Жыл бұрын
its just a classic parry-riposte. she parries one and then ripostes to the head.
@eunaekim92162 жыл бұрын
If you are an alien who is watching this video from a generation ship heading to Earth, don't get any ideas - this is not a war, nor is it a series of duels where the object is to kill the opponent.
@user-jn7gt2rd3y4 ай бұрын
gave them real blade
@tommytani69232 жыл бұрын
No.2 because i like oh
@schishne7546 Жыл бұрын
3:20 this technique my students...is called the angry bunny
@herbertaloysreinders58833 жыл бұрын
MY SPORT
@zach45052 жыл бұрын
#9 Distance and timing
@mr.cheatday18923 жыл бұрын
#10😱
@ginnungagap9793 Жыл бұрын
Number 9 hit her with the crouch jump ☠️☠️ Edit: proper numbering
@OlympicFoil3 жыл бұрын
2:33 Foil? 😮
@jasper56993 жыл бұрын
No Sabre
@aaronchen55012 жыл бұрын
@@jasper5699 no shit sherlock
@Mimi_69692 жыл бұрын
Genuinely looked like a foil there tho
@OlympicFoil2 жыл бұрын
@@Mimi_6969 classic foil hit
@mulder19792 жыл бұрын
I have no idea who won in any of these confrontations.