[Slight Disadvantage] NA Tetris vs JP Puyo (Switch)

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5 жыл бұрын

Wumbo ranked sets vs Japanese puyo player
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@tunatezer8902 5 жыл бұрын

Wumbo starter pack: • Tetris • T-spin • Schezo • Beating almost everyone

@tunatezer8902 5 жыл бұрын

@@tyler_3183 Cool

@frenzzyleggs 5 жыл бұрын

You forgot 4-wide

@tunatezer8902 5 жыл бұрын

@@frenzzyleggs Yeah

@Me41687 5 жыл бұрын

Take out the "almost"

@tunatezer8902 5 жыл бұрын

@@Me41687 Sure

@ShinyGreninja14 5 жыл бұрын

"What happened?" Good question.

@Etce 5 жыл бұрын

Question; which one is truly more at a slight disadvantage. I don't know I've never really seen.. like.. which one is at the advantage.

@Tobophos 5 жыл бұрын

Tetris is; in an evenly skilled matchup the Puyo player tends to win

@asdfness123 5 жыл бұрын

According to Amemiya, Puyo is advantageous at low to mid level play, but Tetris is slightly advantageous at a high level.

@TheUnlocked 5 жыл бұрын

Puyo generally has an advantage, but tetris has no speed limit. This means that at higher levels, it's possible for tetris to just play so fast that the puyo can't put up much of any viable response.

@thedeathofray2558 5 жыл бұрын

Notice me senpai

@cosplayeranime 5 жыл бұрын

Puyo at advantage at low level. Mid to high level is even. At the highest level Tetris at advantage due to it having more options and room for speed. Cheers, mate.

@S2LSOFTENER 5 жыл бұрын

I don't see anything wrong here.

@boop6428 5 жыл бұрын

S2LSOFTENER yes

@Timidile 5 жыл бұрын

IGN said the tetris player is at a slight disadvantage

@gabrielcousins2605 3 ай бұрын

Hi S2LSOFTENER! I didn't expect to see you here!

@MCDragonMasterX 5 жыл бұрын

Dang first a Tetris, then a b2b Tetris, then a b2b T-Spin. You are truly a powerful fighter

@TDashLIVE 5 жыл бұрын

I don't understand the garbage rates between Puyo and Tetris. A Tetris can be nearly fully offset with just a 2-Chain, but there is no possible way to offset a 25-combo with even the biggest of chains. It makes no sense at all. It also seems that when playing Tetris against a CPU, they have more firepower than you do. For example, a Tetris barely deters their progress, plus, the garbage just goes under all the Tetriminos, whereas in Puyo Puyo, the garbage covers the Puyos, meaning that the chain you were building is most likely entirely buried. Also, both Puyo Puyo and Tetris allow the player to move the Puyo/Tetrimino instantly to the ghost piece. This is called a Quick Drop for Puyo Puyo, and a Hard Drop for Tetris. However, Quick Drop is turned off by default for Puyo Puyo except for Tiny Puyo, Fusion, and Party. Using a Quick Drop doesn't give you points, where a Hard Drop does. This doesn't seem very important, except for the fact that Party mode is all about gaining points. The Quick Drop isn't even instant. There's a slight pause after using one, and another pause if a Puyo drops off of another one, where in Tetris, after using a Hard Drop, the next Tetrimino is instantly obtainable, unless lines are scored. So I'll say that while Sega tried to make Puyo Puyo and Tetris equal, they are far from equal. Yeah, PPT is a great game, but there are just way too many flaws in it.

@SlothinSoup 4 жыл бұрын

This man could open a lock using the wrong key and a t-spin

@ShannonBlake444 5 жыл бұрын

Bro. That Witch was a seeeriously good puyo player. I just didn't notice it at first cuz I was so focursed on Wumbo lol

@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange 5 жыл бұрын

Shannon Blake Yeah, but they only do combos of 2-4, nothing too huge. They’re playing Puyo as Tetris, with rapid attacks to disrupt the opponent, but Puyo needs a heavy blow to end a match reliably. Dude’s been playing other Puyos forever I think, he plays that way at least. Pretty impressive tho.

@bartdude82 5 жыл бұрын

That Witch was not good. He was just stacking his right side full of puyo, hoping for the best. He made a lot of careless mistakes.

@CandeadMaple 5 жыл бұрын

@@bartdude82 No he wasn't relying on luck. This is what puyo players do against high lvl tetris players or all clear starts against other puyo players. This is so when the get a massive amount of garbage they pop the trigger put at the top to lead into at most 4-5. TL;DR he wasn't mindlessly playing he knew what he was doing.

@jestfullgremblim8002 3 жыл бұрын

@@CandeadMaple true

@armando0772 5 жыл бұрын

2:00 A b2b T-Spin and a b2b Tetris *Countered with a 3-chain* wow

@rubbish_mentality 5 жыл бұрын

EvEnLY MAtcHeD

@karanoelle4819 5 жыл бұрын

I had a long reply but deleted it because this. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7uafJmfrtnJkZc.html Basically Wumbo sents the same EXACT thing. A B2B tetris and a B2B T-Spin double. Only difference is that Shiro sends a 4-4-4 to clear all but 3 blocks of garbage. Here, we had a chain of 5-4-6, which is clearly not the same level as a 4-4-4. Granted, Shiro did send a 5 link at the end to delete the last 3 blocks and sent 4 lines of garbage to Wumbo. But these two things show how important the puyo count is in your chains to send garbage. Having basic 4-4-4's won't save you from much unless you clear a lot in chaining. If Shiro sent a 4-4-4-4, he might have sent 1-2 less lines of garbage than what he did. puyonexus.com/wiki/Scoring Give this a read, as it's pretty relevant since Puyo uses Tsu in this game.

@jimothyjimothy1 5 жыл бұрын

Back to back t spin to Tetris is around the same level of difficulty as a 3 chain so makes sense imo

@Pineapple-hx9ty 4 жыл бұрын

@@jimothyjimothy1 I'm going to stop you right there. took me 6 months to reliably t-spin when I first started playing tetris. first 10 minutes into practicing puyo and I did a 4chain.

@jimothyjimothy1 4 жыл бұрын

@@Pineapple-hx9ty do you have a learning disability or smth cuz it's not really that hard

@notdanny8287 5 жыл бұрын

0:58 yah YEET

@ztrooper1641 5 жыл бұрын

@EaZea 3 жыл бұрын

@jellief1sh. 5 жыл бұрын

I guess witch is paralyzed from those shockwaves

@dannylee27514 5 жыл бұрын

Oh god wumbo is meming now, what is happening to humanity

@JoeyTM 5 жыл бұрын

where does the slight disadvantage meme come from anyways

@osuBlaziken 5 жыл бұрын

Joey IGN said it in their ppt review

@Linjago30 5 жыл бұрын

Why is it a meme? It's a review and it is true.

@Kyara7 5 жыл бұрын

@@Linjago30 It's not though

@Linjago30 5 жыл бұрын

@@Kyara7 Puyos are more powerful than tetris. I saw saw a perfect clewr blocked by a 5-chain before.

@turbojake3457 5 жыл бұрын

I just realized I might one day run into wumbo and be utterly erased.

@jovanaavramovic2485 3 жыл бұрын

"how many t-spins are you going to do?" wumbo: *"yes"*

@Lucariokid 5 жыл бұрын

This scares the shit out of me as a puyo player

@Tunic_ 3 жыл бұрын

This scares the shit out of me as a tetris player

@jestfullgremblim8002 3 жыл бұрын

@@Tunic_ lol

@FloatingSunfish 4 жыл бұрын

"What happened?" You just got *_Wumboed,_* my friend.

@jestfullgremblim8002 3 жыл бұрын

*-What happened?* *-the day is mine!!*

@_RegulusStar 5 жыл бұрын

I’m loving the new thumbnails

@yuki-layla4907 4 жыл бұрын

I refuse to believe this man is human

@marioandsoniczone 5 жыл бұрын

Simply epic video there buddy. Nice stuff, keep it up! :)

@EbolaGW 5 жыл бұрын

C'mon man, that first round was really unforgivable! Nice.

@SpaceyDavid_ 5 жыл бұрын

2:29 - 2:42 Puyo player: _Is that all you got?_ Wumbo: *proceeds to insta-tetris*

@johnvida3426 11 ай бұрын

Have you tried DT cannon --> 2-wide? I actually got this idea when I was playing Tetris Party Deluxe.

@_jd_261 5 жыл бұрын

This video was a ride from beginning to end god damn

@torchfour 5 жыл бұрын

some day Wumbo is going to burn Back to Back to his screen

@iapr18 5 жыл бұрын

If it's possible to align Tetrises that fast... how much is the viability of a TSD-Tris-Tris 2 Combo? It deals 15 lines of damage, after all

@cosplayeranime 5 жыл бұрын

Holy shit; you played that last match like your life depended on that.

@scythermantis 5 жыл бұрын

We need to see wumbo vs momo ken!

@verypokemon 5 жыл бұрын

Do you do the t-spins to just flex on people? They dont really seem that strong but then again I haven’t played this game myself

@NO1xANIMExFAN 5 жыл бұрын

Nope tspins clear only 2 lines but is the same in terms of attack as a tetris. fitting more of them in means a higher apm

@vgmaster20000 5 жыл бұрын

T-Spin doubles can be set up faster than a Tetris, and send just as much garbage to the opponent. Thus one who can consistently lauch T-Spins will be able to do damage more efficiently.

@AndrewBlechinger 5 жыл бұрын

Against high level Puyo, harassment with T spins is a good tactic to prevent them from getting a big chain.

@darkairwolf8726 3 жыл бұрын

Puyo: *does one combo* Tetris: *FuNnY cOlOuR gO BRRRRRRRR*

@chessplayer6632 5 жыл бұрын

Wumbo, can we see you do a match with Puyo Minos?

@syndere6755 5 жыл бұрын

There's a reason nobody uses that. Don't use that. For the love of god, don't.

@inghy98 5 жыл бұрын

Just do add a lil bit more challenge

@LysiX 5 жыл бұрын

I didn't notice this was a Wumbo video until 500 T-spins appeared out nowhere

@Wetheuntitled 5 жыл бұрын

Is it worth doing the tspins over tetrises because with a Tetris you can hard drop it and tspins require soft drops which take a significant amount more time.

@someone2427 5 жыл бұрын

T Spins and Tetris send the same amount of garbage, but T Spins are easier to set up. The soft drop is just a price to pay for a quick way to end the game

@jballs5434 4 жыл бұрын

@@someone2427 T-spins seem a lot harder to set up than a Tetris...

@pawpa06 3 жыл бұрын

What if the day was... and quote me on this, yours?

@kirararahey6577 5 жыл бұрын

Wumbo have you thought of vsing shirobrawl? Btw I'm sure many have said this but ur relentless with ur B2b triple double t spins and tetrises, it's actually scary

@iapr18 5 жыл бұрын

Please spare Shiro's life, a friend of his has admitted they both can't stand against top level Tetris

@kirararahey6577 5 жыл бұрын

Jin really? Who is this friend?... personally I think Shiro is amazing so like I don't doubt his skills. That's why I thought it would be awesome to have both of them play. To me I think Shiro is one of the best puyo players

@Wumbotize 5 жыл бұрын

Here's an example from a stream... There are many many more vs shiro games in my streams but someone timestamped this one- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7uafJmfrtnJkZc.htmlh35m30s

@kirararahey6577 5 жыл бұрын

Wumbotize thank you soo much!!! :) I watched it straight away and damn it was a neck and neck match! 1 win for wumbo and one for Shiro. Like holy u had a couple misdrops(or so it seemed to me) but u came back like a bloody God, and like I know it's rare for u to have long single matches but dang does that show how good Shiro is at puyo. And again... from watching that highlight I can only remember how much of a God u are at tetris and just how good Shiro is at puyo. U guys r crazy lol

@kirararahey6577 5 жыл бұрын

Jin please watch the highlight! Totally worth it. Shiro can totally go against wumbo. They're both gods at their respective games!

@moon2unes 5 жыл бұрын

M E E P !

@tktendo8350 4 жыл бұрын

Nobody: Wumbo: IS THAT A T SPIN I SENCE?!?!?

@NarutoOrganisation13 5 жыл бұрын

5:18 Big brain reboot sequence

@bredgamingleaf3478 5 жыл бұрын

*W A P O W !*

@bea3558 5 жыл бұрын

and people argue the TvP matchup is balanced

@zanno073 5 жыл бұрын

I still wonder what would happened if hard drop was availabe for puyo

@agu9302 5 жыл бұрын

Well it is? Idk why people never use it, but I'm pretty sure there is a function to activate it

@CandeadMaple 5 жыл бұрын

@@agu9302 Not online or competitively.

@agu9302 5 жыл бұрын

@@CandeadMaple damn, why not?

@CandeadMaple 5 жыл бұрын

@@agu9302 I really don't know. Online its up to Sega and in comp tournaments they mainly play swap as a middle ground.

@agu9302 5 жыл бұрын

@@CandeadMaple well anyway, that weird but it must have a reason. Thanks for answering me btw!

@supermariosonica 5 жыл бұрын

Happy feet wumbo combo

@dt5101961Nelon 5 жыл бұрын

*Slightly advantagen't*

@setsers1 5 жыл бұрын

GOD DAMN.😨

@firesun88 5 жыл бұрын

Oh yea

@piggywink333boyfriend6 2 жыл бұрын

wonder why u didnt build dt cannon at 3:45

@Lamberto_XD 5 жыл бұрын

If you win with combo?

@gifdar 3 жыл бұрын

Seeing Wumbo lose a round is like when the OP main character loses for character development

@malachihepler6640 3 жыл бұрын

"The tettris player has a slight disadvantage "

@itsrealsnowy1 Ай бұрын

shockwave

@inghy98 5 жыл бұрын

As if puyo wasn't hated enough in the West already :(

@CandeadMaple 5 жыл бұрын

Well puyo wasn't "hated"

@jballs5434 4 жыл бұрын

@@CandeadMaple It kinda was. It's finally starting to get better recognition though luckily.

@porter5224 3 жыл бұрын

Ignored =/= hated. I didn’t even know what Puyo was until this game and I’ve been playing Tetris for a decade at least. I imagine it’s similar for most people who got this

@Alexs23743 2 жыл бұрын

So, this is pretty much the video game equivalent of the International Race of Champions. X_x;

@thecelestialstarship 5 жыл бұрын

“sLiGhT DiSaDvAnTage” 🤣

@themetavirus 5 жыл бұрын

Never challenge a Tetris.

@CowboyJoseph64 5 жыл бұрын

this is bullying

@superbooglet 5 жыл бұрын

*W H A T H A P P E N E D*

@memegamouth 5 жыл бұрын

You're cool.

@JookDoobs 5 жыл бұрын

6:53 Wait... where is Robin’s book of T O M E S?

@tasvebi5801 4 жыл бұрын

schezo: a witch: e

@frenzzyleggs 5 жыл бұрын

w h a t h a p p e n e d ?

@ArceusBowser212 5 жыл бұрын

E E K

@baguette_dreemurr5592 4 жыл бұрын

ONLINE NINTENDO FOR 2 YEARS BABY

@bruhmoment6331 5 жыл бұрын

"What happened?" Yeah no shit

@Gamester621 5 жыл бұрын

I love how Wumbo didn’t care about downstacking game 1 I’d set 2

@sebryn7007 5 жыл бұрын

1: 12 it bothers me that that isn't turned into a four wide.

@Major_Mason 5 жыл бұрын

In Puyo, your only way of winning is a nepalm clear which is when you pop a LARGE section of Puyos at once.

@Aflay1 5 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy hearing them in English and they’re still saying the same spells.

@Puddlycake 10 ай бұрын

I wonder how sweaty Wumbo is in real life

@samsungrefrigeratorcondens4354 3 жыл бұрын

S H O C K W A V E *T E T R I S*

@zekilla 5 жыл бұрын

S H O C K ❗W A V E

@Grimizu123 5 жыл бұрын

Why the dislikes, though?

@armando0772 5 жыл бұрын

Grozdor HNNW probably from the Japanese players

@ABC-ju7it 5 жыл бұрын

Either -Japanese Players -Plain Old Haters *OR* -People who suck

@VestedUTuber 5 жыл бұрын

@@ABC-ju7it **OR** -People who think the "Tetris is at a slight disadvantage" is actually true and set-in-stone simply because IGN's review mentioned it.

@bee7690 5 жыл бұрын

imagine a 109k v. 13k round going to the 13k player

@yipps1171 3 жыл бұрын

Slight disadvantage but backwards.

@user-px4oo5ve3b 3 жыл бұрын

스탈린이 누구에요?

@realperson9951 5 жыл бұрын

rip japanese dude

@KuroDCupu 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if puyo has insta-drop like tetris...

@kintsuki99 5 жыл бұрын

As this video clearly shows puyo puyo is too OP.

@Wumbotize 5 жыл бұрын

Clearly.

@regrubmaH 5 жыл бұрын

He still ended up winning anyways.... Nerf wumbo pls

@EricE549 3 жыл бұрын

this guy can t-spin

@StFidjnr 5 жыл бұрын

2:28 what did the witch say if she wins

@CandeadMaple 5 жыл бұрын

"Pfff, that all you got?"

@drunkolxea8682 5 жыл бұрын

are you into sexual asphyxiation? the singular puyo* was gasping for air

@SuperMarioGalaxySMG 3 жыл бұрын

How to fix this stuff... Make it so that both are weaker this way tetris can clear good and puyo chains don't get messed up as much (perfect)

@saurav9922 5 жыл бұрын

7.8 too much t-spins

@skiph8957 5 жыл бұрын

To me someone who hasn’t played the game it looks like puyo puyo normally loses to Tetris but please tell me if he’s just that good or Tetris really wins

@TheSalemiLid 5 жыл бұрын

Z3phr SKIPH He’s damn good.

@skiph8957 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@mangojuicexd6115 4 жыл бұрын

You know i still prefer to play as puyo player even if i struggle against the tetris player

@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange 5 жыл бұрын

I think your Japanese friend is broken. You were winning for the majority of the time in the entirety of the first match, despite being at a slight disadvantage. Contact your local weeb supplier and ask for a replacement, they do free trade-ins for 20$, so there’s no reason not to! It’s FREE!

@DaniPaunov 4 жыл бұрын

i literally cannot hear anything

@TheGameFlinger 3 жыл бұрын

Me who has owned the game for 2 years now: What the hecc is a pUyO??? LOL

@Exshem Жыл бұрын

the grid for puyo is too small in the first place

@Welp_Tunes 5 жыл бұрын

How the HELL does he move that fast on the switch?!? (Assuming that’s what “Switch” means)

@Wumbotize 5 жыл бұрын

Yes that's what it means this is on the switch... A lot of practice and 2 step finesse harddrop.com/wiki/0G_60_Hz_SRS_Movement_Finesse

@Welp_Tunes 5 жыл бұрын

I play on a switch as well so I strive to be a lot like u!

@randomguest2224 5 жыл бұрын

The imbalance could so easily be fixed by giving puyo a hard drop when going against tetris players

@D3STINY22 5 жыл бұрын

Puyo puyo becomes incredibly overpowered with hard drops. Wumbo just makes it look very imbalanced

@ignap 5 жыл бұрын

Maybe they could make it so that the garbage that puyo recives, doesn't stop the puyo player from moving, so that they can defend faster (aka. Make tetris garbage hard drop)

@sonicgen1 5 жыл бұрын

If they did that then they would prolly have to remove the x2 strength puyo has but that does sound like a nice idea to deal with Tetris. I guess a game like puyo just wasn't made to deal with Tetris.

@CowboyJoseph64 5 жыл бұрын

one way they could've fixed the imbalance was just making it so that garbage line clears didn't give you any attack power.

@NekoConnect 5 жыл бұрын

CowboyJoseph64 Won't that make it unfair for the tetris side now? Getting hit hard enough with trash lines will make it harder to recover and in the time you manage to clear most of it, the puyo side has a 6-7 chain waiting for you.