Small "TOOL" Battery Better? Milwaukee vs DeWalt vs Makita

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3 жыл бұрын

Batteries tested: Milwaukee 2 AH vs 12 AH, Dewalt and Makita. Battery performance compared in impact driver (low current), hammer drill (low/medium current), reciprocating saw (high current), and air blower (very high current). Battery size had a huge impact on tool performance, including torque and total run time. In some instances, larger tool batteries actually hurt tool performance. I buy all the products tested to ensure unbiased test results. So, thank you for supporting the channel!
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@electronicsNmore
@electronicsNmore 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe how much they charge for a lithium ion battery pack. $245 is outrageous! Your testing methods are the best. Thanks for all the time you put into making these extremely helpful videos! A++
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
The prices have gone up a lot in the past year! Thanks again!!
@MrMega200
@MrMega200 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm Do this same test but with 3rd party batteries and compare to name brand tool batteries.
@lilcourtny08
@lilcourtny08 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMega200 he already did, look at his past videos
@MrMega200
@MrMega200 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilcourtny08 I am talking in terms of the test in this video. Yes I know he tested generic batteries before but I am talking about comparing for example brand name 4Ah vs Generic 4Ah for ability to drive huge lag screws and measure the difference. All of what he did in this video for generic batteries. Generic battery 2Ah, 4Ah, and so on.
@lilcourtny08
@lilcourtny08 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMega200 ok
@lukesky1415
@lukesky1415 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to suggest a comparison between different cooking pans based on the material (Regular Iron, Teflon Coated and Ceramic coated) and test their durability and heat resistance.
@mntmn4228
@mntmn4228 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget cast iron!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@liggerstuxin1
@liggerstuxin1 3 жыл бұрын
I’d also like to see this. Include copper pans to please
@robertb2744
@robertb2744 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the ninja and hex clad brands tested! They both seem super durable!
@11C1P
@11C1P 3 жыл бұрын
Would also like to see that test.
@Leadfarmer451
@Leadfarmer451 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll bet you’ve had such a noticeable influence on the market that big manufacturers are paying super close attention to you, praying their product doesn’t make it to your channel! Great work man, I trust the heck out of your reviews!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jimmysyar889
@jimmysyar889 3 жыл бұрын
I think Milwaukee is praying it does, their tools work incredibly.
@gameovered777
@gameovered777 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he's ever received any gag orders or lawsuits. When I'm about to buy some expensive tool, I always check this channel first.
@ExploreWithIsaac
@ExploreWithIsaac 2 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee and DeWalt a lot of times perform well.
@SilmarilS79
@SilmarilS79 2 жыл бұрын
@@gameovered777 The only way it would happen if his tests were flawed toward a company or purposefully gives bad rating to sway the opinion.
@gumps1986
@gumps1986 3 жыл бұрын
Me, buying literally anything: “I wonder if Project Farm tested that?”
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@markcostello5873
@markcostello5873 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how I feel now 😂 I don’t trust anything that hasn’t been tested by project farm
@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkh
@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkh 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody remind me to go to ProjectFarm estate sale in about 50 years🤣
@gojeffgordon24
@gojeffgordon24 3 жыл бұрын
Just don’t buy a lawnmower engine when you go! As his videos show those have led a life of pain and misery! 😂
@aisforannihilation1662
@aisforannihilation1662 3 жыл бұрын
I always think at 1st, at least he gets all these cool tools out of it. Then I remember he puts them thru torture tests for us & shed a tear for them all & his wallet but it all evens out for the vids at least & he's doing a great service to consumers.
@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkh
@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkh 3 жыл бұрын
@@gojeffgordon24 i dont think anyone on our planet needs a mower engine thats had oil replaced with bacon grease🤣
@fartguts
@fartguts 3 жыл бұрын
MIlwaukee battery: "50% STRONGER!" Socket adapter: "Please dear god, no more."
@311mdub
@311mdub 3 жыл бұрын
He did one actually on adapters.’surprisingly dewalt out performed every other brand by a long shot. He must have been using hazardnfart knockoff if dewalt, Bauer..‘stuff is Junk I’d rather pay them extra $4 and get dewalt quality instead of snap the HF “impact” on the very first try.. I would love to see him test best tap and die sets
@1970gregg
@1970gregg 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 3 жыл бұрын
@@311mdub But did he test weighted sockets?
@badlilstang
@badlilstang 3 жыл бұрын
@@311mdub I have seen Milwaukee trade blows with Dewalt in different tests.. Seems you really can't go wrong with either of those. Milwaukee wipes the floor with Dewalt on the big boy impacts. Wasn't even close in the tests I saw. Dewalt Drills seem to be better than Milwaukee though. Some of the new FLEX stuff is super impressive and some is not. We live in a good time for power tools lol.
@ikeyeet8312
@ikeyeet8312 3 жыл бұрын
@@badlilstang Pretty accurate, Milwaukee runs 100 times better promos also.
@Chalen216
@Chalen216 3 жыл бұрын
When he says “very impressive” gets me every time.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@joelk9603
@joelk9603 3 жыл бұрын
I just found your site, and am blown away by your objective, high quality, quantitative approach to testing. Your highly organized presentation style is the best on KZfaq by far. It's great to get the plan up front, then the tests, then the results, with no fluff or useless chatter. The commercial testing organizations need to take lessons, and the manufacturers of the products you test, as well as the consuming public, are getting a valuable service. Thank you sir, and keep up the great work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@davidp2888
@davidp2888 3 жыл бұрын
"Is it possible your tool is underperforming because of battery size?" Now you're just getting a bit too personal, sir. LOL
@petercolquhoun2086
@petercolquhoun2086 3 жыл бұрын
He barely got that out. I wonder how many takes it took.
@sgtleobella
@sgtleobella 3 жыл бұрын
@@petercolquhoun2086 69
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David, lol. Thank you very much and hope you have a great week!
@daleolson3506
@daleolson3506 3 жыл бұрын
I saw him wink too.
@hurcorh
@hurcorh 3 жыл бұрын
I felt personally attacked 😂
@subarasimp5030
@subarasimp5030 3 жыл бұрын
"We're gonna test that" is one of my favorite phrases by any youtuber, always love the videos
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@CaffeinatedTech
@CaffeinatedTech 3 жыл бұрын
"We're gonna test that" and "Let me show you its features!".
@JeepDoctorPH
@JeepDoctorPH 3 жыл бұрын
your reviews are always on point and complete man. nice
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@judee00
@judee00 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy is the best!
@w49660
@w49660 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised by several of the result, such as the larger batteries making that much improvement, as well as too large of a battery lowering performance. Great test idea!
@CptLang97
@CptLang97 3 жыл бұрын
The Dewalt was interesting to me as well. It wasn't that the battery capacity was too large, it's that it switched from being a 20v 12AH to a 60v 4AH. the higher voltage means it had more power, causing the blade to move faster, but it seems that that saw is more designed to operate at the usual 20v because the strokes were actually too fast at the higher voltage.
@5467nick
@5467nick 3 жыл бұрын
@@CptLang97 The flexvolt batteries don't supply 60V to 20V tools. They are capable of supplying 20V or 60V, depending on the tool. Which is in use depends on different metal contact arrangements in the tool's battery holder. The reason why the saw moved faster was because the battery's voltage doesn't drop as much with increasing current. Where a small battery's voltage might drop from 18V to 14V under load, a larger battery might only drop from 18V to 16V. That isn't a huge difference, but it is enough to make the saw go faster by enough to change cutting behavior. Actually supplying 60V to a 20V motor would be a very bad idea, unless your goal was to set it on fire.
@TykeMison_
@TykeMison_ 2 жыл бұрын
w49660, the tool needed more weight (or force from the user) to effectively use the cutting power of the larger battery. As a counter example, if there was a battery that was _too weak_ to use 10 pounds of weight, the blade would've cut very slowly or stopped completely.
@garnerthomas2933
@garnerthomas2933 3 жыл бұрын
“Is it possible that your tool is under performing because of battery size”. I can’t believe you kept it together I would have been rolling
@handymanhoney-do6881
@handymanhoney-do6881 3 жыл бұрын
…….but we all heard a little giggle. An awkward pause would have sealed it🤣
@Il0vebagels69
@Il0vebagels69 3 жыл бұрын
This Is something I wondered all the time but never thought to ask
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! Amazing how much difference it makes!
@slylockfox85
@slylockfox85 3 жыл бұрын
There is a channel called "Torque Test Channel" and they have compared the 6.0 High Output battery to the 8.0 High Output battery from Milwaukee and the 6.0 actually outputs more amps due to the way each battery is designed. Though it didn't 't make a noticeable difference on most tools and they recommended getting the battery that suited the capacity/form factor needs of the individual.
@Dominus_Umbrae
@Dominus_Umbrae 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm looks like my (and maybe others) video idea came through? Nice to see the results! Interesting results on 12aH for sure. Since the batteries seem to work at different speeds (different Ah ratings) makes me wonder if something with a 2.6Ah rating will last 2.6 hours doing anything or if it’s a % less, and if the 2.6Ah battery can only deliver power for X minutes, will a 6Ah battery deliver power for (6/2.6) X minutes? Will the change in time of power delivery be linear or curved because larger batteries have more juice and use more juice?
@bigsteve6729
@bigsteve6729 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is a paradox
@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936
@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigsteve6729 which came first, the effect or the cause ?
@CreativeCarpentry
@CreativeCarpentry 2 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting- I will definitely be sizing my batteries for the job at hand and buying a higher amp/hour battery for jobs that use a lot of power. Thanks for the videos genuinely it’s some of the best content around
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing.
@llahneb10
@llahneb10 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent breakdown, the unbiased, objective, and well-designed tests are a real pleasure to watch. Thanks for all the excellent work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@bleezair
@bleezair 3 жыл бұрын
By far the best content creator on KZfaq. Comprehensive, straightforward tests that leave no doubt about each tools capabilities. I bet this man saves thousands of people a ton of money. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦 keep up the great work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@turtle2448thomas
@turtle2448thomas 3 жыл бұрын
We need a 2nd channel. That way we can see behind the scenes on how he comes up with these tests or the test rigs. See things done around the farm and see what in the world he does with all these products after testing is finished. Would watch it all!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment!
@FJB2020
@FJB2020 3 жыл бұрын
I bet he does that for his paid viewers
@greenidguy9292
@greenidguy9292 3 жыл бұрын
As thorough as he is when is testing/making the product comparison videos I really doubt he would have time for another channel, but I do agree with you it would be cool to see what you mentioned.
@Vandalfoe
@Vandalfoe 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nKlzqd1ktqirnXk.html. He talks about the farm at least.
@Samlol23_drrich
@Samlol23_drrich 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: all the results are purely fabricated. He doesn't actually do any of these tests. But seriously the work that goes into these is tremendous. To come up with an idea, and then a test idea, build the test apparatus, then go through the test and come up with a conclusion is amazing.
@Dr.Scorpio
@Dr.Scorpio 3 жыл бұрын
As always, an amazing video. Really appreciate the analysis, the accuracy, the effort and the comparisons. Thanks a million. Best wishes.
@JosephBall
@JosephBall 3 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely amazed with these results! Especially with the Sawzall results! I never thought more could be less until now! I'm surprised that they don't have something in the circuitry to limit the blade speed so that it doesn't go too fast too be useful.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@BYOTools
@BYOTools 3 жыл бұрын
A video I never knew I wanted until PF took on the challenge. Loved it! Way to go as always.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@innercityprepper
@innercityprepper 3 жыл бұрын
This was good stuff. I LOVE using my small 2ah batteries with my small impacts and other tools just because it's so light and easy to deal with. But next time I'm doing big jobs with the impact or the hammer drill I will most likely start with a 4 or 5ah.
@monono954
@monono954 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all check out the Torque Test Channel. They do this kinda stuff all the time.
@YoureSoVane
@YoureSoVane 3 жыл бұрын
We've rediscovered something that TTC has taught us; the M18 has some freaking torque
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@inthefreytoo
@inthefreytoo 3 жыл бұрын
So very glad you did this video! Have passed this on to a few of my contractor friends that use a slew of battery tools. Awesome video! Thanks! The video on reciprocating saw blades was great too! Thanks!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@markhiscock5530
@markhiscock5530 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting results, this will definitely affect my battery game for the future. Thanks so much for the hard work as always that you put into every video
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
@rado78231
@rado78231 3 жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who is staggered by the scientific approach used in all of the PF's videos, right? Thank you so much for your preparation and dedication!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@2010bigfathen
@2010bigfathen 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I don’t want a 3 pound battery on a 1 pound tool especially for overhead work. Great job as always!!
@dposcuro
@dposcuro 3 жыл бұрын
Course, if you're using a 1lb tool overhead, you probably don't need the power a 3lb battery could provide!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@ItchyKneeSon
@ItchyKneeSon 3 жыл бұрын
@@dposcuro I'd agree for the most part. An exception that comes to mind is putting in lag eye screws overhead for drop ceilings. Not necessarily an everyday occurrence, but an occurrence nonetheless.
@MrArcticPOWER
@MrArcticPOWER 3 жыл бұрын
When I see people using a 8ah and 12ah on an impact driver, I always ask myself what the f*** are they thinking?
@07slowbalt
@07slowbalt 3 жыл бұрын
My milwaukee blower barely works with a 2ah but a 5ah is dramatically better. It would really shine with a 9 or 12 ah. But yes a 12ah isnt needed in an impact driver
@ChristiannTyler
@ChristiannTyler 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing as always! I have a pile of 1.5ah batteries from all the kits over the years. One was left in the trunk for 7-8 months with an old dewalt impact driver, then used to change all the tires.. 20 lugs on an off! these tools are amazing!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@lymanellsworth4727
@lymanellsworth4727 3 жыл бұрын
Best and most informative tests of various products on KZfaq by far! Thank you!
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 3 жыл бұрын
It's always impressive how quick he can talk while still being intelligible!
@serge4856
@serge4856 3 жыл бұрын
Does he really talk this fast or does he 1.5x
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 3 жыл бұрын
@@serge4856 Well, by the looks of his mouth at the beginning of his videos, it seems that it's real and not fast forwarded lol
@michaelsershen5702
@michaelsershen5702 3 жыл бұрын
It's really nice. I tend to watch everything on youtube at 1.5 speed, or sometimes even faster. In his case you don't need to do that, 1.25x is fine. Must be because I'm from New England, we talk faster than most of the country.
@bigsteve6729
@bigsteve6729 3 жыл бұрын
This is how fast I talk too
@safffff1000
@safffff1000 3 жыл бұрын
Plus I always watch at 1.75 speed and understand him
@KeithOlson
@KeithOlson 3 жыл бұрын
"I like big batts and I cannot lie." -- Sir Fixalot
@StevenBanks123
@StevenBanks123 3 жыл бұрын
Oh great. Now I’ve got that song stuck in my head but with new lyrics.
@ap6232
@ap6232 3 жыл бұрын
underrated comment
@workisfun...2438
@workisfun...2438 3 жыл бұрын
Dad joke of the month!
@wlan246
@wlan246 3 жыл бұрын
You other mothers can't deny.
@tyh4297
@tyh4297 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@Bensam123
@Bensam123 3 жыл бұрын
Something I didn't know I needed to know, but now am glad I know. Good stuff as always. Had no idea of the performance difference between battery sizes, I thought it was purely about capacity.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@jpkemmitt
@jpkemmitt 2 жыл бұрын
Great cadence and pace, thanks for taking the time to do these and edit so well.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@jake9705
@jake9705 3 жыл бұрын
4:06 -- How did Milwaukee manage to trademark the common phrase "light demand"?! 😂
@brianm8056
@brianm8056 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see you do a test on ear muffs for hearing protection and which one has the actual best noise reduction rating compared to manufacturer claims. It could be a great episode to bring Cousin Eddy back again.
@yesac101
@yesac101 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing protection have to be tested by ANSI in accordance with OSHA standards they are not manufacturer claims
@DerekFletcher1
@DerekFletcher1 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up on a farm and now the Fire Chief of a small volunteer fire dept. Your videos heavily influence purchasing decisions. Keep up the great work. I can see the hard work that goes into these videos.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@thepickle7757
@thepickle7757 3 жыл бұрын
As always it is a pleasure to watch your tests and thank you for your time and science behind testing these products...
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@RabidBadger_
@RabidBadger_ 3 жыл бұрын
Raise your hand if you think Project Farm's socket adapter budget is probably enough to pay for a few impact wrenches.
@danielnelson4881
@danielnelson4881 3 жыл бұрын
How bout a thumb? I can raise one of them.
@samuel5916
@samuel5916 3 жыл бұрын
😂 You can buy low-torque impact wrenches from the big three brands that are roughly similar in size and power just without the 1/4” hex connector. But he would have to redo all his testing on socket-related videos so that the numbers were all comparable in charts going forward. That being said, I’d love to see him test impact wrenches. Especially the high-torque models.
@operator8014
@operator8014 3 жыл бұрын
Budgeting at ProjectFarm Co must be a spreadsheet nightmare.
@Chonchi999TheG
@Chonchi999TheG 3 жыл бұрын
🙋🏼‍♂️
@GeorgiaBoi70
@GeorgiaBoi70 3 жыл бұрын
Why do I get so excited when this guy releases a video? ❤️
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@simasm.9757
@simasm.9757 3 жыл бұрын
good content thats why
@blazeandcyrus
@blazeandcyrus 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love your profile pic!!
@simasm.9757
@simasm.9757 3 жыл бұрын
@@blazeandcyrus thanks
@AM-wi6zo
@AM-wi6zo 3 жыл бұрын
Because you're weird.
@BlueEternities
@BlueEternities 2 жыл бұрын
As you pointed out, more pressure would have made a big difference for those higher AH batteries. Just imagine all the angry pixies bursting to get out of those behemoths. Your final comment was perfect as usual. The wisdom you've gained and generously shared freely with us is truly a blessing that cannot be fully grasped or appreciated. Thank you for the work you do for all of us. God Bless.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@mfic79
@mfic79 Жыл бұрын
From a guy that has been in construction for his entire life, this really is some valuable info! In fact, tons of your videos are extremely interesting to watch. In some instances I have been proven right, other I have been proven wrong. Absolutely fantastic content, good sir!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jakem7433
@jakem7433 3 жыл бұрын
A multitool test would be nice to see, Leatherman vs Gerber vs Swiss tool vs off brand.
@jonanderson5137
@jonanderson5137 3 жыл бұрын
Now that Leatherman has better steel blades and replaceable cutters for the jaws, it's where I'd spend my money.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
I'll do it! Great suggestion!!
@walter8008
@walter8008 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, can't wait.
@walter8008
@walter8008 3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion
@matt0198922
@matt0198922 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm Please include the "Leatherman Free P4", it's the best/newest one!
@charlesdalton985
@charlesdalton985 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, as always. This confirms what my “wrist dyno” has told me. In my Dewalt impact driver, the 5 amp hour battery definitely helps performance. I don’t use it in my hand drill, and your results here confirm my gut instinct.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nspinicelli
@nspinicelli 3 жыл бұрын
What an interesting video idea! Keep up the good work, there's nothing out there like this channel!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@randywilliams1967
@randywilliams1967 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to say you do an impressive job on all your comparisons, the question I had was did the bigger batteries burn up my tools faster with all that increase in power. Great job I love watching all your demos
@erikbeyke7577
@erikbeyke7577 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how he would test that
@neilcomparetto5282
@neilcomparetto5282 3 жыл бұрын
Torque Test Channel did some similar testing… I found it interesting how much more power Milwaukee’s High Output, which use 21700 cells, can deliver. Also, their 6.0ah uses a different 21700 cell that delivers more power that the 12.0ah… Love your video’s, keep up the great work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Great feedback! Thank you
@Hammarsand
@Hammarsand 3 жыл бұрын
Yupp. The 21700 cell has higher output than the 18650 cell.
@neilcomparetto5282
@neilcomparetto5282 3 жыл бұрын
@Bob Mule the 12.0ah does use 21700 (as well as the 3, 6, and 8 high output). The 6.0ah uses cells that can discharge power faster. So it can outperform the 12.0 from a power standpoint, but will not run as long.
@FJB2020
@FJB2020 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like they finally caught up to Bosch who has been using those cells for years. My Core tools are still beasts
@231kickback
@231kickback 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking to comment.
@emilepmartin
@emilepmartin 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for you to finally lay down the law for what's really behind all the battery marketing mumbo jumbo and as always you never dissapoint...well done and thanks for all you do!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@flash001USA
@flash001USA 3 жыл бұрын
As always, you've put out a lot of very informative great videos!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gmiller442
@gmiller442 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! I see a lot of videos from various sources testing and comparing the new carbide tipped reciprocating saw blades. Most show the blades cutting through nails, screws, or pipe. I would think a lot of folks who are in the market and willing to spend the extra cash on these types of blades don’t have access to a cutting torch while working on a vehicle. I feel it would be a better test to see which blade cuts vehicle suspension bolts. If I saw a blade that would cut a factory leaf spring bolt in one shot and still be usable, that would be VERY impressive.
@AJohnsonJr
@AJohnsonJr 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to batteries, size matters, but knowing how to use your tool is most important.
@Meekmillan
@Meekmillan 3 жыл бұрын
only batteries though
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Good Point!
@marcusjohnson7904
@marcusjohnson7904 3 жыл бұрын
We still talking about batteries right?
@pebjr6621
@pebjr6621 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what she says..
@rogeryoung2567
@rogeryoung2567 3 жыл бұрын
Good sir ,its not the size of the ship ,nor is it the motion of the ocean ,its that the captain can stay in port long enough for all off his passengers to get off 😀 😉
@got2strpk
@got2strpk 3 жыл бұрын
I want to say something. I've been watching you for years and i ALWAYS rewatch your old videos because they're just that interesting. You're by far the most hard working, dilligent, honest and caring youtuber I've ever seen. I could leave a comment on your random 37th video about whatever and i would know you're going to not just read it but read it that day. Your dedication floors me and your videos are so in depth that i can watch a 20 minute video about which screw is the best and love every second. Never change man. You're perfect. (No homo)
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jaycarneygiants
@jaycarneygiants 2 жыл бұрын
Your testing is awesome. Thanks for all the info! keep up the good work.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@RadioactiveCereal
@RadioactiveCereal 3 жыл бұрын
awesome video! been wanting this one for a while!
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 3 жыл бұрын
A familiar test, more data the better! That poor 2,000 psi pressure gauge though
@plaid11
@plaid11 3 жыл бұрын
That thing was tapping out
@kalev60
@kalev60 3 жыл бұрын
He needed a bigger gauge :D :D Maxing it out like that can eventually destroy the gauge, but I guess he gambled it can take it for the duration of the test.
@cellphone7223
@cellphone7223 3 жыл бұрын
"Is your tool under performing because of battery size?" I dunno PF, I'll have to ask the missus.
@StevenBanks123
@StevenBanks123 3 жыл бұрын
or invite PF over for a comparison test? ; )
@Smedleydog1
@Smedleydog1 3 жыл бұрын
@@StevenBanks123 😆
@leohiggins7737
@leohiggins7737 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this battery test. This helps a lot on my choice of batteries. You put a lot of effort in All of your testing
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@newjargon1697
@newjargon1697 3 жыл бұрын
Project Farm, I've been carefully considering, and researching battery options for my Milwaukee tools. Thank you for the video. Every bit of information helps as a consumer. Can't always rely on the marketing "specs" on the box. All depends on what tool it is used for, and what applications they are used for. Thanks again.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@damianryan5
@damianryan5 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered this myself a few weeks ago changing my truck wheels. My dewalt driver couldn’t loosen the lugs with the 2ah battery but the 9ah battery did it for a joke.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thank you
@liggerstuxin1
@liggerstuxin1 3 жыл бұрын
The first psi test is a really intelligent way to test the torque. Good idea. 👍
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@del-boysnostalgiatvads7416
@del-boysnostalgiatvads7416 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm 😘
@samiam6382
@samiam6382 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is truly outstanding. I will not buy anything without viewing your testing. Thanks for all the hard work. I’m sure no nails were harmed during testing.😉
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@leo-ub6nb
@leo-ub6nb 3 жыл бұрын
This man's forearms have got to be jacked after these tests. Next video: Which tool will increase forearm size best?
@kornaros96
@kornaros96 2 жыл бұрын
The nature's one...
@johnnycoolguy9554
@johnnycoolguy9554 3 жыл бұрын
Clever test, I never would have thought to test something like this. Great work as usual!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@JDelta87
@JDelta87 3 жыл бұрын
I always had a feeling that my smaller Ah batteries performed worse in some of my tools but your level of extensive testing confirms it. Thanks for doing all of this and sharing!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@TKCL
@TKCL 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome test! Thanks
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@MrChristianLoving
@MrChristianLoving 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the most useful content creators on KZfaq!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@n8r8ts41
@n8r8ts41 3 жыл бұрын
"It broke the socket adapter?!" "It broke another socket adapter!!" 😵
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Powerful impact driver!
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 3 жыл бұрын
Its not as worked as the dewalt.
@Grant_Woodford
@Grant_Woodford 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowopsairman1583 Highly doubt it being worked would make that much of a difference. (coming from a dewalt fan)
@yesac101
@yesac101 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowopsairman1583 dewalt is for home games not pros just like makita they just dont last in a commercial setting
@johng4527
@johng4527 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm yeah, it was probably good that it shut off on the 12ah battery (probably over-current protection on the tool). as I think you would have broken many more socket adapters.
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 3 жыл бұрын
Large batteries are so heavy, its also can be ergonomics and fatigue issue
@mercury0214
@mercury0214 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest a 12.0 is not enough to even come close to wearing out my arm using all week long might just be me but it’s stupid light
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Great point on the battery weight!
@HSKFabrications
@HSKFabrications 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe stop being a pansy...."omg it's so heavyyyyy ughhhh" 🤣
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 3 жыл бұрын
Heavier battery could also help reduce impact vibration since it’s more weight the tool needs to move
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 3 жыл бұрын
@@HSKFabrications if your holding it all day or over head it makes a difference
@matthew_k47
@matthew_k47 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to have seen an average percentage improvement for each of the different battery capacities across each of the tests (average of the results from each test into one percentage improvement figure, not just the improvement for each tool at the end of each test, if that makes any sense - hard to describe). Keep up the great work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the feedback.
@twistedhillbilly6157
@twistedhillbilly6157 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT TEST!!! Interesting results I did not expect this at all...
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@vinnylewis4568
@vinnylewis4568 3 жыл бұрын
1:40 in to the vid and my jaw dropped.....never expected an increase in performance let alone by so much!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@barryhaynes103
@barryhaynes103 3 жыл бұрын
Who would’ve thought or knew … what a great bench test … exceptional service channel !!! 😎
@Donishaaa
@Donishaaa 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always perfect. Everytime I'm looking into buying a new tool, I check to see if you happen to have a video featuring said tool first.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@g.fortin3228
@g.fortin3228 2 жыл бұрын
Surprising results on this one ! great testing !
@lonewanderer3603
@lonewanderer3603 3 жыл бұрын
Still hoping for a wood cutting oscillating blade test. Amazon has some blades as cheap as $1, where everything at Home Depot is $8-10 each. You could use the same rig as your metal cutting test, but replace the screws with hardwood dowels.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video idea.
@mattcordes9276
@mattcordes9276 3 жыл бұрын
That would be very interesting to see multi-tool blades from harbor freight, Amazon etc tested with a good bellwether.
@justinrenda4451
@justinrenda4451 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@publicmail2
@publicmail2 3 жыл бұрын
Batteries are not voltage regulated when draining, a larger batt on a big load will maintain a slightly higher voltage causing better performance as well as longer run time. On Smaller load tools performance is negligible.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@user21XXL
@user21XXL 3 жыл бұрын
yea by running more cells in parallel you decrease internal resistance of the battery
@casemodder89
@casemodder89 3 жыл бұрын
@@user21XXL yep, or make use of the newer 21700 cells and their lower Ri. (Featuring more surface area).
@rikityrik
@rikityrik Жыл бұрын
Love these, I know time constraints on video length and other factors play a role but really wished you'd include Bosch batts, and I don't own any Ryobi but would be neat to see theirs in there too. I may of over looked you done so many its hard to keep up. Thanks for all you do!!! Always look forward to your new videos to drop.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@falc302
@falc302 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Project Farm!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@mrimpalarider1606
@mrimpalarider1606 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is going to settle sooo many arguments at work come Monday morning. Always top notch, unbiased test.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@SDMircro
@SDMircro 3 жыл бұрын
It's always cool to see how you test every type of product
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@philipwilson308
@philipwilson308 3 жыл бұрын
For real. I still watch videos of products I don't intend on purchasing just to see how he tests them.
@Billbobaker
@Billbobaker 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks so much for making it and sharing it.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@hphillips7425
@hphillips7425 3 жыл бұрын
I am always surprised at how well you test everything in all your videos
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@LG1ikLx
@LG1ikLx 3 жыл бұрын
I just thought Amp Hour meant the battery lasted longer. I would have never guessed they improved the tools performance.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@MattsAwesomeStuff
@MattsAwesomeStuff 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting because when you, say, double capacity, you also double the amount of battery. That means you can pull twice the power from it, or, in cases where the voltage sags under load (battery chemistry can't react fast enough, not enough surface area), you have half the voltage sag.
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor 3 жыл бұрын
All other things being equal, a battery with a bigger capacity will always be able to deliver more power, with less voltage sag.
@yamaman6882
@yamaman6882 3 жыл бұрын
How about a PF test on water soluble degreasers like Simple Green, ZEP, Purple Power, Orange Degreaser, Mother's etc. Thanks for putting all of the PF test on that spreadsheet. Made looking for previous PF tests much easier.
@kunjunction1
@kunjunction1 3 жыл бұрын
"is your tool under performing because of the size of the battery" you had my sub before sucks i cant give you a second one
@CorySlykerman
@CorySlykerman 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive video. Answered a lot of my questions about this topic. Thank you!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad to hear!
@xeress
@xeress 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a comparison between different brands of PVC cement.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video idea.
@kornaros96
@kornaros96 3 жыл бұрын
Get Hercules
@justinv3080
@justinv3080 3 жыл бұрын
4:31 - price per amp hour 4:40 - weight in grams 8:22 - psi % increase and torque 12:53 - average reciprocating saw speed 14:52 - air speed after 5 minutes
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@nix4644
@nix4644 3 жыл бұрын
I am so happy to hear bigger tools don't always perform better. (C'mon, you knew someone was going to say something similar). As usual PF, very useful information. Thanks again for bringing us these videos.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@BigMikeECV
@BigMikeECV 2 жыл бұрын
This was pretty informative. It never occurred to me that the torque could differ between batteries, only the capacity and heat seemed to factor. Now I see I can use the smaller 2ah batteries when driving lower torque screws for things like curtains.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@xtra_9
@xtra_9 3 жыл бұрын
this had been my seat of the pants interpretation, glad to see it’s not “bigger is better” placebo. thanks!
@tomrepurpose2770
@tomrepurpose2770 3 жыл бұрын
Putting a diamond in a huge box is marketing 101.... 20 yrs ago my science teacher discharged a c battery vs a d. Watt hr. Was equal. Took a hacksaw an cut the D cell battery open an to suprise there sat a C battery!!!
@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele
@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is not a tool comparison, but every time I'm impressed about how good are Milwaukee brand tools!
@genericinternetperson
@genericinternetperson 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not absolutely every tool they make but the vast majority of the time when you see the Milwaukee label, you know you're getting quality.
@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele
@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele 3 жыл бұрын
@@genericinternetperson unfortunately they are not easy to buy here in Italy. Makita and De Walt are sold on most of hardware shops. I'd say that the most common high quality brand here is Hilti. Do you know it?
@genericinternetperson
@genericinternetperson 3 жыл бұрын
@@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele Never heard of Hilti before here. Makita and DeWalt are usually pretty solid though.
@ChristopherGoggans
@ChristopherGoggans 3 жыл бұрын
@@genericinternetperson hilti is one of the tool truck and industrial/fleet brands here in the states. From what I remember, substantially higher priced (probably double or triple the price) and often several years behind the curve in battery and electric motor tech. They do great stuff in certain areas, and have a solid warranty, but their cost is also insane for most things.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@LukeTheJoker
@LukeTheJoker 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool, never would have guessed the bigger batteries would cause issues on some tools, the slow cutting with the faster blade speed was a real eye opener.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nothankyou63
@nothankyou63 3 жыл бұрын
this is one of the most interesting videos I have watched on your channel.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gregoryclarke7842
@gregoryclarke7842 3 жыл бұрын
Another honest unbiased review! Thanks.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@raymondjroth
@raymondjroth 3 жыл бұрын
Led light bulb comparison. Can't wait 12.3 years to watch it
@Iconic_Scarab
@Iconic_Scarab 2 жыл бұрын
I had been hoping for this test as I knew from the manufacturers themselves that their larger batteries had performance benefits beyond just a longer run time. One thing to note from this that I had considered on previous tests is that battery size is a factor that should be controlled for in future tool tests. Fortunately I imagine you have accrued enough batteries at this point to make that pretty feasible. I didn’t however consider the possibility of a performance decrease due to faster blade speed on the reciprocating saw although as you said increased downward pressure likely would’ve corrected this issue or obviously just making use of the variable speed trigger which would once again allow the larger batteries benefits to shine making the choice to go larger a valid decision when balanced against the weight you are able withstand without fatigue during use. Also note that another touted benefit of the larger batteries according to the manufacturers is that they will have greater longevity allowing more charge cycles over its lifetime adding to their overall value.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@layz_her2673
@layz_her2673 2 жыл бұрын
earned this sub for sure, love all your videos! thank you for your research!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and subscribing!
@danielnelson4881
@danielnelson4881 3 жыл бұрын
When he says "veryy impressiive!!" I love it. I don't know why... Maybe it's because I'm imagining my dad is saying that about something I did... But then I snap back to reality and realize I'd have to do something impressive first, those tools earned that enthusiasm!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!!
@jeffalessi
@jeffalessi 3 жыл бұрын
Todd, your channel is so good, I always give you a like even before watching the video. Have a most awesome evening!
@martyb3783
@martyb3783 2 жыл бұрын
Man, How do you come up with your testing methods. Genius! Keep it up. I love your videos.
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