Smolder Is Not What People Expected

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5 ай бұрын

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@TheJamieellis
@TheJamieellis 5 ай бұрын
It's wild that the design team looked at EVERY OTHER DRAGON IN THE SETTING and said "Nope, not gonna reference any of that shit, lets make him human looking!" We can't even get a monster champ without them being humanfied.
@marquisepixley684
@marquisepixley684 5 ай бұрын
You are wrong
@felipecouto1102
@felipecouto1102 5 ай бұрын
@@marquisepixley684 no
@eduardothomazl
@eduardothomazl 5 ай бұрын
@@marquisepixley684 And you are wrong to say he is wrong.
@felpudini
@felpudini 5 ай бұрын
​​​@@marquisepixley684 Of course , furry profile pic
@SynWasHereYo
@SynWasHereYo 5 ай бұрын
You don't understand. It's not what people want, It's what China want.
@legreatest
@legreatest 5 ай бұрын
Riot tried so hard to make it cute, it ended up in the complete opposite way of uncanny valley level of creepiness
@kudaty1808
@kudaty1808 5 ай бұрын
Sonic v1.0
@karanea
@karanea 5 ай бұрын
@@kudaty1808 When I saw the cinematic for the first time I thought it was a fan edit (not just because of the sonic face but also the shorts format)
@shade4835
@shade4835 5 ай бұрын
Not at all no
@veerayut4815
@veerayut4815 5 ай бұрын
yes that face nahhhhh
@maximkusanagi
@maximkusanagi 5 ай бұрын
It's lizard Zoe.
@FabschOblivion669
@FabschOblivion669 5 ай бұрын
The worst part about Smolder is the fact that he doesn’t even look cute, he looks creepy and uncanny in the worst way possible.
@marquisepixley684
@marquisepixley684 5 ай бұрын
You are wrong
@deluzuzia
@deluzuzia 5 ай бұрын
@@marquisepixley684 they are absolutely correct smolder just looks weird
@AngryShark105
@AngryShark105 5 ай бұрын
i agree
@53thephenix
@53thephenix 5 ай бұрын
@@marquisepixley684 literaly 80% of the community think smolder sucks, the only place where poeple where okay with was twitter lmao. How much riot is paying you to have the worst possible tastes ?
@biotoxic0008
@biotoxic0008 5 ай бұрын
​@@marquisepixley684 He is correct tho , i find Smolder really weird instead of cute
@stan2139
@stan2139 5 ай бұрын
Let's wait until they release the concept arts and we see the 7 other potential amazing designs they could have rolled with before picking this one
@BoneWalker
@BoneWalker 5 ай бұрын
I'm still disappointed we missed out on the aspect of might or brawlerzilla.
@TheRelicOfOwls
@TheRelicOfOwls 5 ай бұрын
I@@BoneWalker I'm constantly reminded of the several better directions they had for a more grungy bad-ass kai'sa design
@BoneWalker
@BoneWalker 5 ай бұрын
@@TheRelicOfOwls There's an alternate timeline where all the cooler champ concepts and designs made it to the game, and we somehow got this thing.
@Jangz_
@Jangz_ 5 ай бұрын
@@TheRelicOfOwlsnah kaisa design was perfect in my opinion
@dangng7079
@dangng7079 5 ай бұрын
@@Jangz_ i agree , but it's perfect for R34 ,not LOL
@MechanicMikan
@MechanicMikan 5 ай бұрын
on the bright side, we will have the first ever Paw Patrol character in League
@thomasroycraig4679
@thomasroycraig4679 5 ай бұрын
It’s more like a My Little Pony Dragon.
@ShovelMarshy
@ShovelMarshy 5 ай бұрын
​@@thomasroycraig4679 What's worse is that I'm okay with it since I grew up with that show
@thomasroycraig4679
@thomasroycraig4679 5 ай бұрын
@@ShovelMarshy I don’t mind that either. I loved G4.
@morelstrike
@morelstrike 5 ай бұрын
@@ShovelMarshy What's even worse is that both MLP and Paw Patrol have better designs when it comes to their faces.
@ShovelMarshy
@ShovelMarshy 5 ай бұрын
@@morelstrike yeah, I love his design, but will say the face at least needs a snout of some kind to make it less human
@Howtopaintstuff
@Howtopaintstuff 5 ай бұрын
I will honestly say that this is the worst design they've ever made. People will go on all day about sexualisation or anime husbando or big sexy man designs but this takes the cake. This is so uncanny and I really struggle to see how this got through to an accepted final design. They already have Gnar, Zoe and Teemo which do really well for the big eyes and cute style they wanted, but this is just so uncanny and vividly off putting. Its like they took the face off a little boy and stapled it onto a gecko. Edit: The corrections they made are absolutely perfect!
@thewaysh
@thewaysh 5 ай бұрын
Hahaha, I think Riot completely lost it.
@--A3--
@--A3-- 5 ай бұрын
Its sad to acknowledge that even Yuumi's design was better than this shit, which proves just how bad it really is.
@nanashialfarr
@nanashialfarr 5 ай бұрын
Riot's Ugly sonic.
@Mediados
@Mediados 5 ай бұрын
@@--A3--Yuumis design is literally impossible to mess up, she's just a cat.
@MythicalCat
@MythicalCat 5 ай бұрын
​@@nanashialfarrFr, I would prefer Sanic over this monstrosity.
@fiddx8905
@fiddx8905 5 ай бұрын
Remember the people who redesigned fiddlesticks? Someone please give them a call
@eraimattei
@eraimattei 5 ай бұрын
ASAP...
@fiddx8905
@fiddx8905 5 ай бұрын
@@HeckenschutzeMoH agree, they had put interesting designs fitting the theme and the world, funny that riot already had made quite good designs for dragons in LoR especially with the elder dragon, unless if they wanted smolder to be a yordle halfbreed
@tadihotado3518
@tadihotado3518 5 ай бұрын
Id rather have they kept the design similar to his doodles of himself: simple dragon outline, proportional body to head ratio and even wings (take that shyvana), actual cute designs (big fangs, tries to be intimidating yet clearly is too small to be scary, very confident aka prideful ambitious as expected of a dragon). You literally get so much from a simple doodle. Literally all they had to do was stick to a doodle and they still fucked up.
@fireguardianx
@fireguardianx 5 ай бұрын
100% agree, also what you described remind me of younger simba.
@akaliislifeakaliislove5968
@akaliislifeakaliislove5968 5 ай бұрын
not that only that we literally have cute dragons in game already... look at dragon trainer Tristana and Heimer, they could just make a new one of those and it would work better
@TheSinfulGamer
@TheSinfulGamer 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, Shyvana is more of a Wyvern
@tadihotado3518
@tadihotado3518 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSinfulGamer a wyvern with wings the size of twigs and legs and arms bones are literal branches, shyvana is so skinny in her dragon form that it makes Vi looks like she's buffed af Shyvana is a terrible dragon design, in every sense of the word "dragon", i look at her and i see "snake with attached limps"
@B-l-a-z-z-e-R
@B-l-a-z-z-e-R 5 ай бұрын
All they had to do was make Spyro 2.0 since they like to steal ideas left and right and nobody would bat an eye.
@godzilagiroflex
@godzilagiroflex 5 ай бұрын
I'm going to ask the REAL question here: If dragons are that important in Camavor, why the hell don't we have really cool official art of Viego in his armor riding the Camavoran Dragon!? WHY RIOT!!!??
@andreabosio6452
@andreabosio6452 5 ай бұрын
Probably is a situation similar to Game of Thrones: the royal family conquered a lot with aid of dragons but at the present time they are mostly history as the dragons disappeared in some way
@DrakenRox
@DrakenRox 5 ай бұрын
it looks more like an alliance between camavor and dragons (as intelligent beings) and not a "we tame dragons to use them as weapons/rides" thing maybe
@huntersuper98
@huntersuper98 5 ай бұрын
Because Camavor is an incredibly new place by comparison to the rest of the world and it's not fully fleshed out. Not to mention the fact that it's completely ruined and we don't know the full story of Camavor yet. And lastly we know that Viego was a shut in prince who was thrusted into being the king rather than growing into being one which would explain why he doesn't have a dragon of his own.
@alanreplicant8615
@alanreplicant8615 5 ай бұрын
because Viego is insane and no Dragon would respect him.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 5 ай бұрын
Let them cook oh my god
@CptApplestrudl
@CptApplestrudl 5 ай бұрын
There's a word for a four-legged creature with wings and a human face...it's a sphinx.
@Darkprosper
@Darkprosper 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, if they teased him as a sphinx instead of a dragon, I would actually like him so much more...
@CptApplestrudl
@CptApplestrudl 5 ай бұрын
@@Darkprosper The bright side is, if he ever gets a Guardian of the Sands skin or something like that, it would fix all his problems.
@Darkprosper
@Darkprosper 5 ай бұрын
@@CptApplestrudl Guardians of the Sand is an awesome skin line, but it's been abandoned for years now. With 2024 being year of the dragon, I think we can already tell what his release skin will be...
@buboniccraig896
@buboniccraig896 5 ай бұрын
Hes a fucking skylander. He moves, talks, and looks like a skylander. With a teaspoon of balan wonderworld thrown in there I guess.
@AmaneLily
@AmaneLily 5 ай бұрын
Smolder is giving me ugly sonic vibes, and i really hope they will change him despite that being a lot of work for them
@Coconattsuu
@Coconattsuu 5 ай бұрын
I THOUGHT THE exact same thing
@christopherwilliamsA
@christopherwilliamsA 5 ай бұрын
Riot accidentally made bad Sonic x Spyro fanfiction
@cryochick9044
@cryochick9044 5 ай бұрын
​@@christopherwilliamsAI THOUGHT IT LOOKED LIKE A LOW BUDGET SPYRO
@user-hf6go4se6m
@user-hf6go4se6m 5 ай бұрын
​@@cryochick9044if they put spyro in the game,its going to blow up, ill be a spyro main XD Rank 1 Spyro main sounds awesome XD
@Chuluun700
@Chuluun700 5 ай бұрын
yea sure you only say this because you hear it in the video othervise you would never realised that sonic was changed
@MrLolguy93
@MrLolguy93 5 ай бұрын
His face looks like Sonic's first model from the live action movie
@Blu_Moon_Owl
@Blu_Moon_Owl 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully Smolder will get the same treatment like Sonic and possibly get a better look.
@jedna25
@jedna25 5 ай бұрын
Dragon trainer tristana's baby dragon is more cooler for me than this one.
@Hamlettte
@Hamlettte 5 ай бұрын
My biggest issue with this champ is..... WHY DOES IT HAVE A HUMAN-ESQUE FACE!??
@Lappland_is_mitsu
@Lappland_is_mitsu 5 ай бұрын
If it was shivanna and jarvan son it would make sense but no, it has a camavor origin.
@adashshmulc463
@adashshmulc463 5 ай бұрын
thats not an issue, face is invisible ingame
@estranhodesconhecido8046
@estranhodesconhecido8046 5 ай бұрын
its like sonic's first design in the movie.
@raptorxrise5386
@raptorxrise5386 5 ай бұрын
@@adashshmulc463 You still have the loading screen, champion portrait, potentially any other lol games like loR in the future and such.
@MrIljuha2000
@MrIljuha2000 5 ай бұрын
​@@raptorxrise5386also only a blind person will not see an ingame model Otherwise riot wouldn't bother with animating all the faces talking
@raulbrenes778
@raulbrenes778 5 ай бұрын
I think a very simple fix would be to remove the human mouth and give him a snout. We can keep the rest of the "human face". Just that simple touch will make him more dragon-like while still making riot take their cake with a cute human like monster champ
@cryochick9044
@cryochick9044 5 ай бұрын
Thats how furries make good faces Focus on the snout
@xabierarana2645
@xabierarana2645 5 ай бұрын
Changin the skin tone colour a bit wouldnt harm to
@cryochick9044
@cryochick9044 5 ай бұрын
@@xabierarana2645 just get riot to hire a furry
@raulbrenes778
@raulbrenes778 5 ай бұрын
@@xabierarana2645 yeah making his face more "purply" would also make him better( or maybe not purple, but the tone of the rest of his body)
@zat1245
@zat1245 5 ай бұрын
He has a snout. It’s just smol. His face is not human, it’s just cute.
@obsessivelychaoticdimwit9764
@obsessivelychaoticdimwit9764 5 ай бұрын
Bro the entire lead up to Smolder’s reveal was super sick, THEY KNOW HOW TO MAKE DRAGONS. HOW DID THEY MAKE THAT THING??? GIVE ME THAT DRAGON NOT WHATEVER SMOLDER IS
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer 5 ай бұрын
Shyvana the "half dragon": gains a full on dragon form when ulting, normally looks somewhat human with dragon motifs Smolder, the "fullblood actual dragon": always looks like an uncanny half human, half dragon science experiment
@Chesesino6111
@Chesesino6111 5 ай бұрын
Shyvana looks more like a wyvern to be honest
@walkingburgers95
@walkingburgers95 5 ай бұрын
​@@Chesesino6111 Okay nerd
@Gamer9o
@Gamer9o 5 ай бұрын
yeaah ... im 95% sure that kid dragon didint come from dragon x dragon relationship xD
@painfuloreo2089
@painfuloreo2089 5 ай бұрын
Singed had a lot of fun on this one💀
@egbert5871
@egbert5871 5 ай бұрын
​@@Chesesino6111 ya a kind of dragon
@shafiurrahaman3396
@shafiurrahaman3396 5 ай бұрын
That things is genuinely creepy. I know league is all about subversion of classic fantasy tropes with their character design and worldbuilding but damn, we really can’t get a cool-looking monstrous dragon. Will say I love A-Sol, but his fantasy strikes me primarily more as celestial deity than dragon. Shyvanna don’t count
@doommaker4000
@doommaker4000 5 ай бұрын
Shyv is a wyvern
@ivangg378
@ivangg378 5 ай бұрын
The design team definitively went into vacation when smolder was created.
@megalowie1324
@megalowie1324 5 ай бұрын
When Kog'Maw is a cuter pet-like ADC than you, that says A LOT about your design
@bman296
@bman296 5 ай бұрын
When I asked for a full dragon character I didn't mean Spyro as a mommy's boy
@leoleo1035
@leoleo1035 5 ай бұрын
Lmao yeah. Worst Spyro iteration I've seen. Gotta hand it to Riot. They manage to grab cool designs and turn into shit.
@bman296
@bman296 5 ай бұрын
@leoleo1035 don't get me wrong outside of the human ish face his design ain't half bad just...wish we had gotten an actual at least decent sized dragon not a hatchling.
@leetri
@leetri 5 ай бұрын
@@bman296 He was originally announced as being a baby dragon, so if you expected a full sized dragon that's entirely on you.
@bman296
@bman296 5 ай бұрын
@@leetriI never even heard of him till now. Ive been asking for a pure dragon since I got into league back in 2015
@FeiFongWang
@FeiFongWang 5 ай бұрын
This isn't Spyro, this is a secondary Skylanders reject that riot found the designs for in a dumpster behind Mattel.
@dorians2138
@dorians2138 5 ай бұрын
In Smolder's gameplay teaser he was specifically killing Noxian champs, which usually means something
@zepredalux2159
@zepredalux2159 5 ай бұрын
and he was teaming up with urgot, no way riot
@stephen7587
@stephen7587 5 ай бұрын
THE FUN PART IS HOW HE HAS MAX HEALTH TRUE DAMAGE BECAUSE YEAH THE GAME REALLY NEEDED MORE OF THAT DIDNT IT
@DomseArts
@DomseArts 5 ай бұрын
oh no not again, vayne W / passive ability was already a mistake to begin with
@BoneWalker
@BoneWalker 5 ай бұрын
@@DomseArts Vayne W, Fiora P/R, Camille Q by proxy, Gwen Q, K'sante R Feel like I'm missing multiple other instances of this garbage.
@strongerthanever2039
@strongerthanever2039 5 ай бұрын
A rito employee played a bit too much Spyro and forgot what their own dragons look like.
@wingedflyingforce5139
@wingedflyingforce5139 4 ай бұрын
Nah, true Spyro, not Activision's Spyro (toys for bob in remakes, legends, and Skylanders), in the classic looked like a dragon. What you are thinking is a garbage gremlin who took his name and called itself Spyro.
@zenni_iii
@zenni_iii 5 ай бұрын
Smolder looks like sonic💀
@maximkusanagi
@maximkusanagi 5 ай бұрын
Smolder is Zoe cosplaying as a flying Lizard.
@xDaedron
@xDaedron 5 ай бұрын
The blade visible in the trailer might actually be Sanctity, but only its upper part, possibly hinting that it was modified over the years, perhaps to suit its wielder's fighting style. Possibly the person we see in the trailer preferred one handed style combat and Viego could just attatch the second hilt to give it more of a zweihander-ish feel.
@casualmanticore2758
@casualmanticore2758 5 ай бұрын
Now I imagine that there was once a king who used Sanctity like a fucking gun 😂
@PanvelTyrell
@PanvelTyrell 5 ай бұрын
It is funny that The Dragon Prince already had a perfect iteration of how a baby dragon could look cute and like a dragon at the same time. I like Smolder's design, but when I think about Zym in comparisson it feels way weaker than what it could have been
@albertkaplan1673
@albertkaplan1673 5 ай бұрын
So.....would a reason Shyvana got corrupted so easily by Viego be that she is a half dragon? And maybe because of Their Relationship (Camavora and Dragons) his magic was more potent? Honestly I just want any explanation to the disservice that was the ruination event.
@TheClandestineFox
@TheClandestineFox 5 ай бұрын
What stood out to you about Shyvana's lore that made here seem uncorruptable? Honestly, I was more surprised about Karma being overtaken by the ruination. Karma and Irelia always had that meditative peace-of-mind aesthetic going, I figured they'd both be recruited to the Sentinels.
@eduardothomazl
@eduardothomazl 5 ай бұрын
Please, don't bring up that nightmare again. Let's all just pretend Ruination never existed until Riot make a retcon about it, like they did with Seraphine's lore...
@bcoyne12345
@bcoyne12345 5 ай бұрын
I also assumed that Galio, being a LITERAL Sentinel, would be in there, but alas @@TheClandestineFox
@huntersuper98
@huntersuper98 5 ай бұрын
Are we just forgetting that the Ruination event that League got wasn't the entire Ruination lore? It's already been said that what happened in the event that took place in the client isn't cannon, that's what the book was for.
@ganymede6766
@ganymede6766 5 ай бұрын
The Ruination is not canon it was made as a cop-out to sell skins and not reference any lore, hence why yorick and maokai didnt exist
@noobalishious.
@noobalishious. 5 ай бұрын
New Arcane 2 first look dropped, waiting on your video on it patiently lol
@laryon5472
@laryon5472 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I really like Dragon Trainer Tristana's dragon weapon/cannon as a model for smolder. It has a better dragon look like qualities and it looks cute than this Disney dragon
@sebastit7d
@sebastit7d 5 ай бұрын
I think it's even worse when you see them use ACTUAL dragon anatomy in the teaser right before showing whatever the hell Smolder's face is
@Vincentpanh
@Vincentpanh 5 ай бұрын
The curse half human half dragon face.
@codebracker
@codebracker 5 ай бұрын
It's more like 70% human, which clashes with the 90% dragon rest of the body
@archthrone5815
@archthrone5815 5 ай бұрын
Smolder took the crown for me of the worst visually designed champion. He surpassed Seraphine
@DIRTkat_ofc
@DIRTkat_ofc 5 ай бұрын
Seraphine doesn't even look that bad my problem with her is the reason she exists, to sell skins
@Your_Boi_Eden
@Your_Boi_Eden 5 ай бұрын
@@DIRTkat_ofc exactly.
@zat1245
@zat1245 5 ай бұрын
Literally every aspect of her design is pleasing but sure go off on whatever insane shit this is.
@undyne1
@undyne1 5 ай бұрын
You're exaggerating.
@Your_Boi_Eden
@Your_Boi_Eden 5 ай бұрын
@@undyne1 I mean- not really. Seraphne's outfit doesn't make sense for a Piltovian but at least, it still remotely holds up. Smolder is just... no.
@theuone8828
@theuone8828 5 ай бұрын
Me and a friend of mine are both big into dragons, but even we both agree ... fix Smolder's "snout".
@shocksy9540
@shocksy9540 5 ай бұрын
Damn I was so excited to finally get a new monster champion, should have known they'll just make something that will sell merch and plushies.
@xabierarana2645
@xabierarana2645 5 ай бұрын
Naafiri was two champions ago
@ashviper6727
@ashviper6727 5 ай бұрын
The funny thing is, it wont sell plushies because almost every person agrees it's uncanny and ugly
@opportunity3278
@opportunity3278 5 ай бұрын
@@xabierarana2645 naafiri isnt really a monster tho shes a dog with some knives flex taped onto her
@jackvancekirkland
@jackvancekirkland 5 ай бұрын
Based comment. Smolder is probably canonically gay/trans/nonbinary.@@janah6473
@micahlehrke9
@micahlehrke9 5 ай бұрын
@@janah6473 Belveth has clearly visible thighs and the pretty face. Barely qualifies as a monster champ.
@Zahlari
@Zahlari 5 ай бұрын
So to explain what dragons "do" with treasure, it depends on the setting but most often than not treasure is just a symbol of status, the more gold you have the fiercer the dragon is and the more influence they have (this is how most dragons would be depicted in media because it's the quintessential Red Dragon from DND) so it could be that camavorian dragons just like to have gold or it does have a similar meaning to status for them, spending money is not why dragons have mountains of gold, they just hoard it for the sake of hoarding or status. I am disgusted by Smolder's appearence btw, I can't bear to look at him with that weird and uncanny face, he's supposed to be a true dragon right? Why tf does he have a human's face? I need some explaining or a new design but his kit is pretty cool though.
@bahajirutmspt436
@bahajirutmspt436 5 ай бұрын
@@moonchock4390 well in most settings humans are the dominant species of the world. Probably not the strongest but always the ones with countries and cities everywhere. So hoarding whatever the dominant species value is the easiest way to show their authority and power. For example if they were in a elf dominated world (in tune with nature, love and peace kind of elves) dragons would probably have most beautiful botanic gardens in the world.
@lothara.schmal5092
@lothara.schmal5092 5 ай бұрын
@@moonchock4390 Status and power are reasons, it’s actually the reason most rich people even bother to accumulate more money
@lothara.schmal5092
@lothara.schmal5092 5 ай бұрын
@@moonchock4390 It’s not abt what humans value, dragons value gold, they value gems and rare things.
@jesperskov4614
@jesperskov4614 5 ай бұрын
"(this is how most dragons would be depicted in media because it's the quintessential Red Dragon from DND)" Are you trying to say the stereotypical dragon originates from DnD? I'm pretty sure DnD got it from Tolkien and Tolkien got it from Norse mythology.
@Kyle-nm1kh
@Kyle-nm1kh 5 ай бұрын
Dragons like gold because it helps them sleep
@romuluslupa1649
@romuluslupa1649 5 ай бұрын
Love that he releases this video and there’s so much MORE info released at the time of upload it’s insane
@viklifts-zk8bl
@viklifts-zk8bl 5 ай бұрын
I'm honestly impressed with the fact that riot can keep disappointing us so consistently
@user-hf6go4se6m
@user-hf6go4se6m 5 ай бұрын
Vel meth, milio, renata, hweii, nilah, illaoi, camille, briar, naafiri, all the inclusive skins, nidalee's voice change etc. Feels like there is a mafia at Riot, because im pretty sure all these failures should've cleaned the house XD
@DoctorStrange01
@DoctorStrange01 5 ай бұрын
@@user-hf6go4se6m I like the Vel Meth champion, it's kind of a crackhead though.
@masonchristian2311
@masonchristian2311 5 ай бұрын
it’s because the league community is miserable
@user-hf6go4se6m
@user-hf6go4se6m 5 ай бұрын
@@DoctorStrange01 she kinda came out when the bald feminist final boss archetype was being pushed in every game. Right now I remember the same design in Mortal combat and Magic the gathering. Sad times.
@Hardsky5123
@Hardsky5123 5 ай бұрын
@@user-hf6go4se6mwhat do you mean? Nidalee’s voice is awesome
@infectio88
@infectio88 5 ай бұрын
Smolder looks like Spyro the dragon if he was adaptated into an animation movie by Disney, then had a Netflix adaptation of that, got re-drawn by an AI, and now somehow ended up in League of Legends with a new layer of paint after all that. That thing is nightmarishly creepy. Like for real it would look less creepy with Skarner's face, how did they manage that ?
@ObsidianAmeth
@ObsidianAmeth 5 ай бұрын
Smolder looks like riot mixed MLP characters style with the elemental dragons.
@Blu_Moon_Owl
@Blu_Moon_Owl 5 ай бұрын
I think overall Smolder is fine but the face is too human like. Barely has a snout like an actual dragon and the head shape is too square to fit the body. Sadly missed the mark in the most important part and hopefully Riot will redo the face. Shouldn’t be that hard
@jedna25
@jedna25 5 ай бұрын
I like more the baby dragon of tristana on her dragon trainer skin than smolder.
@Blu_Moon_Owl
@Blu_Moon_Owl 5 ай бұрын
@@jedna25 exactly it’s a cute little dragon which is what Smolder is but the face kills it
@flakyfan1496
@flakyfan1496 5 ай бұрын
Exactly man! Well said I really hope they don’t ignore us on this one cuz the snout is so important to lizards
@mechanicalsilence1
@mechanicalsilence1 5 ай бұрын
I agree, it looks like he stole someone face.
@cupidok2768
@cupidok2768 5 ай бұрын
this is just like zoe. ppl hate cute disney stuff
@missayrie3480
@missayrie3480 5 ай бұрын
If you zoom all the way out and pretend the face isnt happening...... sure! Why not
@raynightshade8317
@raynightshade8317 5 ай бұрын
I like how Riot shows us all the species of dragon and then gives us this thing which looks like none of them. Why give him a human face, like you could still make a dragon hatching cute. Like how lizards can be cute
@Xygard
@Xygard 5 ай бұрын
Im actually okay with it being a fledgling and the lore was cool but then the last scene, it's like the nightmare monster that tried to be friendly but not
@Relhio
@Relhio 5 ай бұрын
Generally dragons hoard gold for two reasons: one being they are greedy and the second one being that the scales on their bellies aren't as strong so they sleep on the gold to harden them.
@user-fn2mx6dd5k
@user-fn2mx6dd5k 5 ай бұрын
Dragons hoard gold cause of Fafnir and cause Tolkien's books are 70% nordic mythology
@mateusyaeger3292
@mateusyaeger3292 5 ай бұрын
@@user-fn2mx6dd5k and even so, fafnir is the only one who does this and exactly because he was cursed... and he's not even a dragon originally
@blturn
@blturn 5 ай бұрын
“Dragons sleep on gold to harden their scales.” Dragons failed basic chemistry it seems.
@Dragansidhe
@Dragansidhe 5 ай бұрын
another common reason is that they actually gather gold and gems to eat them to help grow harder scales
@squishyazalea9970
@squishyazalea9970 5 ай бұрын
I would have preferred a cool adult dragon champ
@euphorium5768
@euphorium5768 5 ай бұрын
They actually listened and started on his redesign, it's as if it's Sonic all over again
@lamalariseviom
@lamalariseviom 5 ай бұрын
It's what people expected, it's not what people wanted. Everyone expects Riot to make every new character cute and humanoid regardless of the race, concept, theme and goal of the champion.
@skinnybuggo
@skinnybuggo 5 ай бұрын
That's what they said ​@@HeckenschutzeMoH
@buhoahogado2993
@buhoahogado2993 5 ай бұрын
I think he does look a little cute, but it is very frustrating that people have been asking for a monster champ for years now and Riot anwers with the most un-monster-looking creature they could have made. And that comes right after they added like a dozen actually monster-looking dragon designs to LoR.
@shurlkr3594
@shurlkr3594 5 ай бұрын
​@@janah6473 Naafiri is just a basic dog with some knife, and Belveth is a mess of lore, gameplay and visual design.
@shurlkr3594
@shurlkr3594 5 ай бұрын
@@janah6473 ​ do you know when was Cho'Gath released? 2009. You compare a champ from the original roster with a champ released 13 years later? And even that, his lore is still not clash with his gamplay, meanwhile what is Belveth? A stabby stingray according to her gameplay, or a psychic empress according her lore, or a wannabe monster wear a human head to sell skins according to a design?
@shurlkr3594
@shurlkr3594 5 ай бұрын
@@janah6473 I'm baffled at how dense you are. Yes, everything back then was goofy af, but they all agree on what a champion is. The problem with Bel'Veth is not that she's bad, her lore is exceptional, her gameplay is pretty good and fresh, the worst part is her design which is fairly disappointed for a monster. As I 've said above, her problem is that she is a mess, while each individual aspect of her is awesome (except for design), they are all over the place. Cho'Gath lore and gameplay may be outdated but they all describe the same Cho'Gath, while Bel'Veth lore and gameplay are 2 different champions
@shurlkr3594
@shurlkr3594 5 ай бұрын
@@janah6473 Let me say it again in the language of a child so your little brain can understand. Based on the lore, Bel is a psychic empress. Based on her gameplay, Bel is a stabby stingray. Based on her design, she is yet another sexy character with pretty face and visible thigh pretend to be a monster. Is this enough for you?
@shurlkr3594
@shurlkr3594 5 ай бұрын
@@janah6473 no, it is just the frustration to someone who refuse to understand a basic concept of which I've talked again and again three times. And the useless thing here is that you haven't bought any meaningful opinions to the discussion and just try to weasel your way around
@CatteYokai
@CatteYokai 5 ай бұрын
When I first saw him was like "aight" but then somebody mentioned his eyes being human-like and pasted an image with dragon eyes under it and now I can't unsee it and the champ has been ruined forever.
@solemnshadow3075
@solemnshadow3075 5 ай бұрын
It's like they made the little dragon that dragon slayer tristana carries in place of her cannon as a champion, but at least the baby dragon she carries looks more believalbe.
@cactus7198
@cactus7198 5 ай бұрын
Was hoping for something like Skaarf from vainglory. I used to main him back in the day in like 2015 before I played league. Him and almost all his skins look amazing. Cute, definitely an animal, definitely a dragon.
@CarinaKeKz
@CarinaKeKz 5 ай бұрын
My theory is that Smolder's design is generated or assisted by AI. It has been shown before that Riot is practising with AI and his design looks like a fusion of recent animated dragon/monster designs (e.g. Dragon Disney movie Raya - The last Dragon) and older known dragons in media (Spyro from the Spyro franchise). Most AI designs get into uncanny valley, that something feels off and/or unbalanced, just not right - because a human designer will try to follow design rules and an AI doesn't know what those are.
@MEMES0ON
@MEMES0ON 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say that the "uncanny valley" is proof of being AI, but considering how hard is to find something human made recently you might as well assume everything past 2023 is AI generated and get it right
@thariousfenrir4430
@thariousfenrir4430 5 ай бұрын
Old poppy face: you couldn’t live with ur own failures, Where did that bring you? Back to me.
@swordbrotherulbrecht3286
@swordbrotherulbrecht3286 5 ай бұрын
i love the end of your videos, they always make me laugh.
@kozby100
@kozby100 5 ай бұрын
I don't know much about Nilah's story, but it sounds like her killing the ancient Camavoren dragon makes sense. If you look at it from the perspective of Camavor, they have been allies from the beginning of time. However, from the point of view of all the other nations on the continent, they are a weapon of war wielded by a warmongering nation. (Also I hate the desing, expected more monster like, massive, adult dragon. Instead got uncanny attemt at cute baby dragon. Personally like the more gritty and dark parts of league, not the "cartoony" side.)
@rosediomond4661
@rosediomond4661 5 ай бұрын
I hope Smolder has special interactions with Nilah
@KenseiShiro
@KenseiShiro 5 ай бұрын
I like his design even less than zoes and i didnt know that was possible
@mekkatrippz7954
@mekkatrippz7954 5 ай бұрын
Looks like the low budget kids movies from the bargain bin at walmart
@AzureFides
@AzureFides 5 ай бұрын
This makes Spyro's design looks like a masterpiece. Good job Riot!
@cryochick9044
@cryochick9044 5 ай бұрын
Hey spyro is well designed. This looks like og sonic movie mixed with spyro though
@Ziggaton
@Ziggaton 5 ай бұрын
If you mean the weird pug-like look he had in Skylanders I'd agree
@lowgahn69
@lowgahn69 5 ай бұрын
He definitely looks alot better in game compared to the cinematic
@gexianhen
@gexianhen 5 ай бұрын
yeah in the top down game view is face is not uncanny it look nice-
@lordheadass8310
@lordheadass8310 5 ай бұрын
His gameplay trailer is out on twitter. It's very much not the case imo
@alexalex-gs9sp
@alexalex-gs9sp 5 ай бұрын
he is disgusting both ingame and cinematic
@OpheliaTerat
@OpheliaTerat 5 ай бұрын
Nah he still looks ugly. In the splash art he looks slightly better tho
@royalgundamist4416
@royalgundamist4416 5 ай бұрын
No he doesnt
@Finn3h
@Finn3h 5 ай бұрын
Riot cleaning their lore up so much recently has me excited for the mmo
@nurventilatoren
@nurventilatoren 5 ай бұрын
He looks like a early Playstation character like Jack and Dexter or early Ratchet and Clanck. This could've been a Shyvana Rework...
@foxythepirate9761
@foxythepirate9761 5 ай бұрын
Just another decade for a chance to get a dragon champion
@llDdorill
@llDdorill 5 ай бұрын
What if Smolder doesn't really speak and we can just understand him because we're the summoner, but in Runeterra he only does baby dragon squeaks, just like how we can understand Sona despite her being mute?
@xabierarana2645
@xabierarana2645 5 ай бұрын
what about the other champion we cant understand like Gnar or Kogmaw?
@nightmarextreme4371
@nightmarextreme4371 5 ай бұрын
kog can speak, but he does noises most of the time, gnar speaks in an older primitive language@@xabierarana2645
@glhf2u
@glhf2u 4 ай бұрын
Love your videos, I always learn something new about League lore :)
@ethanstyant9704
@ethanstyant9704 5 ай бұрын
I think its funny how it's pretty much one thing holding him back, everything else is actually super cool but his face looks like paw patrol had to design a skylander
@trooperscientists2000
@trooperscientists2000 5 ай бұрын
it's the white in his eyes... and his mouth being so short. We see his mom and her snout is long, why is his face like that? I love that LoR has shown us how diverse dragons can be, so I wouldn't mind him looking unique or him talking. I just wish that they 'd referenced the dragons we've seen so far more. The design team probably talked about all of this and in the end came to the conclusion that that's what they are going for, which is wild. League early concept art is so good, but often times they default to one of the more boring designs in the end.
@deluzuzia
@deluzuzia 5 ай бұрын
THIS I think changing the eyes alone would be a good enough fix
@SlygothaTheBroodmother
@SlygothaTheBroodmother 5 ай бұрын
Its probably a "saftey" art design.... cute sells, risky edgy designs don't always. You would have thought they learned from fiddle!
@anasmohamed2481
@anasmohamed2481 5 ай бұрын
Imagine The Enraged Firespitter in league WOW
@chrishaven1489
@chrishaven1489 5 ай бұрын
Character design of Spyro and I strongly suspect he's gonna have the backstory of Dragon Prince. Also, Arcane season 2 first look just dropped
@BEETSSOLO
@BEETSSOLO 5 ай бұрын
whoop whoop for arcane
@cryochick9044
@cryochick9044 5 ай бұрын
Character design of spyro with sonic movie energy
@cryochick9044
@cryochick9044 5 ай бұрын
Character design of spyro with sonic movie energy
@Numereon
@Numereon 5 ай бұрын
It reminds me a bit of images of cats with human faces in medieval paintings
@rod99ttett90
@rod99ttett90 5 ай бұрын
This thing looks like the og version of the sonic in the movie.
@rollcaskett1812
@rollcaskett1812 5 ай бұрын
I thought I was disappointed when we saw Briar but this is a whole 'nother level of disappointment. I'm really hoping this is just a very bad first impression because I've been waiting for this champion for months. Oh well, at least we're getting the Shyvana rework in....2025.
@Dragansidhe
@Dragansidhe 5 ай бұрын
you say that like skarner's rework is actually going to get done this year
@fabbae215
@fabbae215 5 ай бұрын
briar was interesting to me, and i love her memes coz of the feet
@VexJinks
@VexJinks 5 ай бұрын
I prefer cute little emo girl, tbh. Also, toes.
@takubear88
@takubear88 5 ай бұрын
Pull up Lollipoppy and put them side by side. He looks almost entirely like it.
@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079
@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079 5 ай бұрын
the "crown" on the dragon is literally just the fire on smolders head but bigger
@Spark1est
@Spark1est 5 ай бұрын
Smolder has the face of a character from A bugs life, why can't they just make monsters LOOK like monsters
@talactackerashley3016
@talactackerashley3016 5 ай бұрын
I can kinda see why people are mad about its design...but personally i dont mind it.... 😊 its so cute
@swiftwithoutnumbers
@swiftwithoutnumbers 5 ай бұрын
except its not a baby dragon its preteen dragon
@AngryShark105
@AngryShark105 5 ай бұрын
the look of the dragon Oh... I mean Another hUMANNoid thing that's not even well designed... Feel bad about the design of Smolder
@user-li7xb7he5w
@user-li7xb7he5w 5 ай бұрын
I'm sad to look at smolder too
@GambeTama
@GambeTama 5 ай бұрын
There is an adorable irony in this champion not being a crossbreed between Jarvan and Shyvanna, despite how that very thing might have actually given the uncanny valley criticism an out to excuse back on.
@jetbean9157
@jetbean9157 5 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see the better concept art
@Roaddawg1705
@Roaddawg1705 5 ай бұрын
I feel like this is a downgrade from last year's and some of 2022's champs. Naafiri, Hwei and Renata are some of the best designs for a release champ. All the hype behind having a draconic champ just evaporated with this champ's design. Thankfully (maybe even on purpose), Riot is giving Shyvana some love.
@umutcantacer7271
@umutcantacer7271 5 ай бұрын
That sword looks nothing like Sanctity! -The balde shape does not match. -The gem shape does not match. -There are missing gems. Oh and also, some people may have missed it, (it’s not important or anything) but THAT’S NOT A ZWEIHANDER NOW IS IT!?
@DaVideoGameBeastr
@DaVideoGameBeastr 5 ай бұрын
The thing is, Smolder's design is salvageable. The body and overall colour scheme look great. But his face is just a flesh coloured human baby face pasted on a dragon. No scales, no reptile or even cartoon reptile style snout. Just a human baby. It's terrifying.
@Diggerente
@Diggerente 5 ай бұрын
Dude your pants are really showing off your package, impressive
@jeffhunter12
@jeffhunter12 5 ай бұрын
Love the camavor lore, hate the smolder design, its cutesie in a way thats been done a bit too much in league already and also like people said the human like face is just wrong
@misthi9982
@misthi9982 5 ай бұрын
i dont like the character to be honest, feels like a cheap disney reject kids tv show
@EVERYTYME
@EVERYTYME 5 ай бұрын
The blade looks like a steel sword from skyrim
@fabiopauli420
@fabiopauli420 5 ай бұрын
Theory: The Blade is sanctity but the lower half was added later on after the war.
@mcflygarcia
@mcflygarcia 5 ай бұрын
Aahh Yes the classic Riot treatment, make a pixar style champ.
@leagueplays2003
@leagueplays2003 5 ай бұрын
"You changed sonic, you can do it again" why yes, yes we can. They've already changed his splash 😂
@marmyeater
@marmyeater 5 ай бұрын
There can never be enough hate for this champion's design.
@YukihyoShiraki
@YukihyoShiraki 5 ай бұрын
Smolder conversing with its mom reminds me of chomper being told not to play with his food
@TheNicokapo
@TheNicokapo 5 ай бұрын
2:34 Let Jarvan crush some draconic uhhhh... let Jarvan crush some dragons, please!
@fosterbennington6405
@fosterbennington6405 5 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for the Subway edit
@jaroldscottwilliams.3rd832
@jaroldscottwilliams.3rd832 5 ай бұрын
A lot of dragons eat the treasure, but some dragons are just like cat/birds and enjoy random shiny objects. However, some dragons infuse gold and gems with power: this binds their immortality and allows them hotter fire. It depends on the universe in question and sometimes on the specific species within a universe. In some universes dragons are just drakes, basically dragon-like dogs without wings, that managed to pull enough gold or jewels together to empower themselves; they grow bigger and smarter as they collect more or eat more gold. If they need to eat it, they may be sitting on thousands and thousands of pounds of future meals like some kind of squirrel hiding nuts in a tree hollow. For the champion itself, I hope the dragon starts young but grows older as you level and becomes this big scaly monster even larger than the rift dragons.
@potatosheep
@potatosheep 5 ай бұрын
Settle down, everyone's clamoring for a monstrous dragon. Hold your horses, fellas. His mother might potentially be developed into a champion.
@somedragonbastard
@somedragonbastard 5 ай бұрын
At least they rolled out a pretty quick texture change. Doesn't fix him, but it helps
@SlygothaTheBroodmother
@SlygothaTheBroodmother 5 ай бұрын
Dragon lore says dragons like gold because it makes a softer bedding thst is more heatproof.
@TheStuffEnjoyer
@TheStuffEnjoyer 5 ай бұрын
The new Dragon designs explain the Shyvanna rework
@RageKroc888
@RageKroc888 5 ай бұрын
Dragons need to stop giving humans that sloppy toppy, soon there will only be halfbreeds.
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