That's smart

That's already a thing being planned for, it was announced a couple months back

Ppl have a much higher chance at getting hurt from being caught in malfunctioning platform screen doors than falling onto the tracks.

MTA IS BROKE AND COMING FOR OUR WALLETS.

@@AndyB718 facts especially when public transportation should be free for the poor

a much fancier hotel for the homeless

dawg its not like the smell will travel more than 10 feet

@@nexztrah3712 lmaooo sir have you ever been on the Subway and have someone smell so bad that the entire car stink.....

@@bearwhite98 Yea I've been there before. But I'm sure if you go down two cars, you'll escape the putrid smell.

@@nexztrah3712 the smell travels far more than 10ft. You obviously don't ride the NYC subway system.

The best train

I'm gonna miss the 46s. Best subway cars in the system after the 44s were taken out.

I don’t know about luxury but i’m rockaway and I will miss the distinctive hum and door chimes of the train. But when riding those trains all the time, it’s good for a change especially the cameras.

You consider that a 'luxury' vehicle ? It is very deficient compared to other systems throughout the world.

​@@quantisedspace7047🤓🤓🤓

Try again go back to the 1930s another train before this one that had it BMT D type Triplex

Trust me its great, Toronto has it and its so nice to be able to walk through the ENTIRE train to find a seat or some space to stand- plus if there is an emergency then more people will be in the car and able to see

@@andrewisvrycool I agree, this is cool. Is that I know that in NYC their are people that ain't going to know how to act.

Agreed, as someone who once lived in NY, it sad to see them miss golden opportunities to really shine and make the city better, but it's always easier to just give away gimmicks and say it's a good step forward (and cheaper).

It is genuinely sad that NYC thinks this car is considered “the future”..

It’s also a cultural thing. The people in Asian countries are generally cleaner, have good etiquette, etc.

True! I love to go to Europe, Russia or Asia and use subway right there, but not in NYC.

Yeah because their a homogeneous population that have a care for their area. Not these randos who don't give af

@@petrbutkarev4548 but europe is not a country and europe is not asia

@@rummanrk canada is dirty compared to dubai

Got Milk you know your trains...Are you a Car Inspector or Road Car Inspector??

@shabazzx6381 - no, I just liked to cut class and sneak into the Subways for rides around the boroughs; there was an exit-only staircase down to the Subways on Park Row(?) on an island block btwn City Hall, JR Music World and Woolworths, and any skinny kid like me could squeeze underneath the exit-only turnstiles... being an MTA motorman is like a dream job... my life is now here in California entertainment industry, and it's kinda sad to think about... with family back in east coast

@@gotmilk91 Wow!! J&R music world...I miss that store...They had all the Jazz music..From Miles Davis to Chick Corea and so much more..Good luck to you in the industry...😁

@@shabazzx6381 - I think there was a 'Bates'(?) rights next door... much smaller store that stayed competitive with J&R!

@@gotmilk91 Yeah you're correct...There was a competitive outlet next to J&R..However I cannot recall the name...City Hall Park always had live bands performing in the Park...Since Covid that is no more..

bart has cars that can close doors but u can walk between doors

Europe has them too and probably other continents.

in latinamerica they have this type of trains

Some countries just have trouble with how to prioritize things. I think in a way it's already quite telling that they were able to acquire new cars (and reading some of the comments, not seeing the benefit in that because of how old some of the metro network in security systems actually is, causing delays and what not) because the US in general is so car-focused. Public transportation in a lot of US cities is considered as an afterthought, not considered something to immediately think of when designing a new area or redesigning one. That, in a way is probably the cause of what is shown in this video. And next to that: Asian countries in general tend to be much more technologically advanced than some Western countries like to portray themselves to be. We have an RFID-type payment system for public transportation and it pales in comparison to usability, speed, user-friendlyness but also implementation in general to all the similar contactless systems I have read about in Asian countries. Next to this: in The Netherlands, we also dumped such a stupid amount of money in national adoption of said system that my brother had a Ukranian friend who told about the contactless system in the Kyiv subway be amazed the country hadn't protested for weeks because of the costs involved. Their subway system allowed 3 or 4 types of payment products: cash money, tokens (something to do with family status, the friend he visited had some trouble explaining it in English), an RFID pass or your mobile phone. Especially that last part took The Netherlands another 100 million or something to implement in a very bad, haphazard way, after having spend close to 3 billion for national implementation of the first contact-less system. At the time of national implementation (2010), the system used technology from 1995 (With government shouting "this is the future!") , which had multiple universities warn government about because the chip used was NOT meant for electronic bank transfers because it was meant for shipping-tracking applications, and as a result, was not secure, and would run a serious risk of getting hacked (Which, as you can probably imagine, happened A LOT by students who tried to warn government what they decided to implement on a national level...ever since the chip has been upgraded...something they should've done from the beginning).

No trains have bid the sideways seats since the 80s

Extremely low priority issue

The "new" metro's in Amsterdam almost all have sideways seats and I'm not a fan. As for the motion sickness, I have not had it very bad (I only got to experience it after a severe corona infection gave me a malfunctioning balancing organ as a side/after effect) but the most annoying thing for me is how with braking and accelerating, you don't have a good way to stay seated upright. Especially when a driver is in a hurry or the tracks are slippery and the emergency brake is applied to stop it is a very uncomfortable type of seating position, which is why I try to always look for the spots near the doors (in The Netherlands we don't have those metal bars/racks things, but 1 bar with plexiglass or something in it). When the train accelerates or brakes, depending on driving direction, there's at least 1 type of movement I don't have to lean into. In Amsterdam the sideways seats were used with the idea that metro travel typically is shorter distance so you might not have to remain seated as much as on a train. The Amsterdam metro network is special/weird in it's own way given how the biggest part consists out of the old network in which 3 lines run on the exact same tracks and stop at the exact same stations for about 6 or 7 stops and only then branch out to different locations. Sideway seats also allow for a much bigger capacity of standing passengers, and typically causes less obstruction when walking through the car, either because of wanting to leave or wanting to look for a different seat if possible. I get the idea behind the design, but there are some things that leave a lot to be desired.

It increases total capacity to have as many people standing as possible, and sideways facing seats allow that.

@@unconventionalideas5683 Yes, I get that. But it was also adopted with the idea that travelling distance would be short and standing would not be as much of an inconvenience. That was all. The reason I brought it up (and didn't clarify this well enough) is that the new metro's were also put into service on the North-Southline (The newest addition to the network) and that the idea was that people would travel from North to South a lot, but the opposite turned out to be true, which is what causes a lot of disruption due to the immense amounts of people boarding and exiting at some of the major stations.

Yeah like are they asking for a guy to come on and line people up ??? Very unsafe and dystopian

Other countries already have trains that are like that. I actually think it looks really cool.

@@professional.commentator other countries are much more civilized...

Fr fr great point made

Well there are some points to be made. Yes, you are right, but what if a dumbass decided to harm an isolated train car with a packed car. Those people will have no option to run away...hence the removal of the doors. Better flow of people. But at least there are security cameras to help with that!

The sir ones too

The whole country’s a joke

@@SSNESS Unfortunately.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Not to mention the odors that would float around the train. now you can go to the next car if the previous car is smelly....

Shyne

And show time guys

Honestly I thought it was the 80s when it was released. They're almost 50 years old!? 🧓 holy ....

@@phil4863 Well yeah, the cars in staten island are 50+ years old. We had the R32s up until 2020 and they were 56 years old then.

@@phil4863 About 1975/1976 but some of them weren't delivered until the late 1970s.

Cleaner because ppl are cleaner. Have you seen the ppl that ride the metro in US?

@@ID_iKONIC_VIP exactly!!! Also these new trains will be vandalised ...Unlike in HongKong or Japan

@@ID_iKONIC_VIP Next to this, I think a lot of Western countries also simply make the mistake of continuously trying to cut back on the wages of cleaners, and the amount of cleaners and cleaning time for each car. We continue to think in money-terms only, instead of how it could benefit other people in a different way if we would just take cleaning more serious. Yes, the culture in Asian countries is completely incomparable to most Western countries, but still: not thinking seriously about cleaning does not help this at all.

You’re a nyc rat if you enjoy the trains…or maybe just mentally disturbed.

I totally agree. Sometimes at Atlantic Avenue I transfer from the R to the N train just to ride on a r46 two long stops. They are beautiful and cozy with the tan floors and soft white lights

@@P2Feener305 I don't mind if someone calls me a subway rat for being one of the millions who commute on the nyc subway on daily basis.

N andD lines still have R46

@@janelallen9125 W lines also has R46 I believe, but they are planning to replace A and C line with these new trains

I’m so glad I don’t ride the train no more.

MTA hasn't broken the mold it set for the R143. This is just a modification of that car with a few small updates.

In Amsterdam we got new metro's that have huge diffuse light strips on both sides of the doors that light up white at the automatic announcement saying on which side to board or leave the train, turn green when they can be opened, and start blinking red as if in a Star Trek bridge declaring a red alert when the doors are closing, and stay red for a while when closed and departing (it's really cool to see when you are looking along the side and all those doors are blinking red :P ). They can also show a constant red to indicate a bit more clearly that they are broken and taken out of service by locking them (they usually contain a reasonably sticker saying "DEFECTIVE" as well, but I tend to miss that the first couple of button presses :P ). Probably the best thing I like about them (and I tend not to like them because of all the sideways seats) is that they decided to modernize/approach the look of the very first type of metro car Amsterdam used (nicknamed "Herring gull" due to the chrome plating the old ones had) to basically honor that type because it had a warm place in many people's hearts. These new cars were the first with full walkways from front to back, before that we either had single-car combinations with no walkway between any of them (this was the case for the herring gull types) or 2-car sets with only an interconnection between those 2, and then having another 2-car set head-to-head connected to it (this last type being the result of a branch line of the network being meant for fast-tram service that had short platforms and did not allow for full-length metro's, which also were to wide for that line and as a result, required slightly narrower cars with retractable steps on the sides to convert to fast-tram service).

Yes. Some R46s need replacing but these aren't ancient like the R32s that ran about 5/6 years ago. Those looked and felt a lot more dated than the R46s, a modern, nice train that set a new standard in comfort/quietness for the subway (actually the R44s that the R46s were very similar to).

There’s more space and with the open design people will now move around the trains more

My country has replaced the vertical grab poles nearest to the doors on our rolling stock with horizontal ones to prod passengers to stand further from the doors, but when its crowded & there isn't any room to stand further away from the doors, I've heard shorter people complain that it's now harder to find something sturdy to grab onto

But when passengers are not blocking them, they do load and unload faster. That, along with wheelchair accessibility improvements, would surely make the widening worthwhile.

@@unconventionalideas5683 The 54 inch doors will suffice and are more practical as well. The people will still block the doors whichever size doors are used, and this has been a way of life for over 119 years as well. The 45" doors starting with the Arnines, R27/30's, R32's, and R38's also worked well for a very long time, since they were staggered except for the Arnines.

There will still be separate cars for you to switch to with these Open Gangway cars.

Apparently they’re testing two versions, one with and one without, but this was not made clear.

No only A and C lines and Staten island railway

Maybe the E F R will get some mixed in with R160/179

i thought all r46s

R179 Should Give some to G train

@@Stanf954 Jamaica Yard has a surplus of R160's. 1290 cars total. Here's how the cars are currently divided: 260 for the (E) 460 for the (F) 65 for the (G) 310 for the (R) That's 1095 cars in service during peak with 195 spare cars.

The new R211s is essentially an improved R46 train car, especially as the latter is already showing it’s age.

@@TheRailLeaguer why would they remove the separate carts.. and they made the doors wider instead of taller. What about us at 6’7”?

@@TheRailLeaguer I know you are just excited about the new cars along with other people but it is the Subway system that is suffering. Everyday, delays.

+ Homeless people. + Poor Maintenance. But I am sorry but MTA isn’t putting all their efforts. NYC Subway is just off the rope.

The open train doors is a huge red flag

@@yusefkhan1752 the ones you see on the current trains?

It's coming into service at the end of 2023

The same as the R143, R160 and R179. There are some differences but they are just updates. They primarily look like existing trains inside and out.

It's time for us to stop being lazy! 🤣

@romansilentempire8309 have you tried leaning against the door or the wall atleast?

Ding ding ding someone’s paying attention

If this train design was like this when we had the shooting, what you think would have happened

@@johnvyskoc4417 mass casualty

There are cameras on the train, so they can identify the criminal.

The R211s are for letter lines only.

Like that i wont be able to ride the r211

That’ll be the R-262. The 211’s are not for the IRT

Thoes are A division trains. The R211 is for B division which mean it’s literally to both to fit onto those subway tracks. There is a proposed replacement but they not for another 10+ years

@@Trainsallday it would be nice if that division was like this one cus the trains on those lines are terrible and not taking good care of sadly

@@pjay9875 the 1, 3, and 6 trains use R62 trains introduced in the late 80s. There are trains like this one for those trains called the R262. It will feature a lot of the same new features of the R211. If the R211 goes well then the R262 will be placed on order asap. However more hiccups with the R211 will stop the R262 form becoming reality

They're not that old. They're middle aged for trains. The 1, 3 and 6 will change trains when the R262s are out and that's not for a few years. What line will get them is TBD.

Please never put these on the 1 the barriers are necessary

and their made by Kawasaki. Japan said "here, it's old to us now so you can have it"

thats something operators can do just fine, plus thats something you also do in the manufactuering.. these are built and about to go into service. way too late for that

@@843Reboot kinda true, so far atleast 5 full length trains have been built with 2 already being in the system, one with gangways, one with storm doors and these trains are expected to go in service later this year

@@C20F wdym

I know, right? But unfortunately too many people here are not fond of using any idea from the rest of the world since they think it’s bad for NYC. But they are wrong. ALL OF THEM ARE WRONG. To turn their back on the rest of the world.

We’ve already paid for this…remember those barriers on the platforms they talked about…they spent that money on these new cars

Improvements cost money, therefore it is perfectly reasonable that you should pay for improvements

@@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO it would be if they didn’t mismanage the immense money they’re already charging the commuters

R46's are 75 foot long with 16 less doors than other trains. Less doors equal longer dwell times at stations. Also, the areas by the transverse seats weren't utilized as standing spaces enough on those trains. While they are nice inside non-peak hours, the shorter cars with more doors are better for peak hours.

@@benjaminsmith2287 I don’t believe those transverse seats are as much of a burden as you make it seem. Because of our arm span, you can fit more people seated that way compared to if it’s all horizontal. Notice that there is almost always a middle seat on the new trains empty? That’s due to our arm span preventing that extra person to fit. MTA made a choice with 75foot cars, you can still have the same seating with the extra 2 cars. If anything this design of open gangway should be on the number IRT lines.

@@benjaminsmith2287 Over a few minutes trade off I prefer comfort but the MTA is going for that less comfort more speed trade off.

@@42luke93 I don't disagree with you. The seats in the R160s barely fit 5 across and there is usually some unused space. I like the R46, definitely my favorite train. But I do notice some issues during rush hour with the 75 footers vs. the 60 footers. I think the R32 handled crowds best because they had offset doors and no poles by the doors. But I didn't really like them as trains. They did seat a decent amount, though.

@@benjaminsmith2287 Fair, thanks. A good thing about r32 was that they didn’t put the pole in the middle of the seats and so an extra person could fit. Can’t stand seeing that pole waste a seat on all the new trains!

I know, right? And yet some folks here are just afraid of progress for no reason.

Most Western countries are catching up, while at the same time trying to come over as being "so technologically advanced". Asian countries surpass almost all of them with ease, just because in (for instance) The Netherlands we keep making the dire mistake that some systems should prioritize profit over usability and user-friendlyness. (And I'm leaving out the fact that my government is known for completely messing up any IT-project that they get involved in, causing budgets to be exceeded by stupendous amounts, and eventually having an end product as the result that is incapable of doing what it was supposed to do). We have a new payment system in The Netherlands for public transportation ever since 2010, and it required a tremendous amount of money to implement and upgrade it (we started implementing it in 2010 using technology already available in 1995, to give just one example) and it still does not what it is supposed to do, can't do what the old tickets were capable of doing, and favors profits for the transportation companies more than providing a favor for the people using it. As a result, when something goes wrong (which is not uncommon) in the form of to much money being deducted, you have to put in a lot of effort to get this money back instead of the transportation company being forthcoming towards the user. When people in my country call it user-friendly I tend to laugh at them and argue that it's anything but user-friendly by comparing it to old paper tickets.

It was already vandalized last year

Probably less than a week like what they did with the R179