SNS 147 Part 2: Shop Made Tap Driver

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Abom79

Abom79

7 жыл бұрын

In this video i show you how you can machine you own "tap drivers" as I like to call them. This is a simple split bushing that is used to hold the odd sized shank of a tap and fit in a standard size collet.
In this video I machine one to fit a standard 5/8" tap, and it will fit in a 7/8" collet and be used to power tap a hole using the machine power.
I use the Victor lathe fro drilling, turning, boring, and parting. I'll also use the DoAll mill to mill the square slot and split it.
Hope you enjoy!

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@randr10
@randr10 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I like watching these videos. You pick up little stuff that you'd rarely think of yourself if you haven't been doing this for 40 years. That little catch tool he comes up with at 11:00 is stupidly simple but slick. I've been sticking a ball point pen in there, risking tearing my arm off, all while trying to complete the parting cut, when all this time I could've just used a little piece of rod in the tail stock drill chuck like this. That kind of knowledge is pure gold.
@johnw.peterson4311
@johnw.peterson4311 3 жыл бұрын
Adam, you are a great machinist/ welder and steel fabricator. God bless you sir.
@johnnicol7498
@johnnicol7498 7 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm not a machinist(electrical fitter/engineer) from Scotland ,only about 100miles from doublboost. I found a tap like the one frozen in the adaptor you showed and always wondered why, now I know , it was in some of the tooling from my granddads workshop, Enjoy your SNS every week
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Cool! Now you know ho to put it to use!
@cavemansmancave9025
@cavemansmancave9025 7 жыл бұрын
The process of rolling cold rolled steel leaves compressive stresses in the outer layers of material. When you cut the slot, those stresses closed up the slot. Nice project. Thanks, John
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Still didn't expect that from stressproof material
@bradrusk2080
@bradrusk2080 4 жыл бұрын
I a man older machinest and tool and die maker i am retired now and disabled and reopening my small shop 'I am using bench mark horizontal 1930's and the vertical is a 1940's i pulled out of dirt in a friends back yard The old lathe is a 1940's also i pulled out of the dirt i am rebuilding them now having to rest a lot now i have been watching your vidoes and they have really help me with my project Thanks for shearing your knowledge
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 7 жыл бұрын
I like that , Great Project .. Holds the tap firm and straight ! Thumbs up man ..
@tmenzella
@tmenzella 4 жыл бұрын
Million miles away from the flex arm - love the early sns work
@TomsChevelle
@TomsChevelle 7 жыл бұрын
I am not a machinist but your videos are so clear and easy to understand I feel like machining something right now. Nice videos!
@standishgeezer
@standishgeezer 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, I know nothing about this kind of work but it's been great to watch a true craftsman produce such a precision item. Thanks for a great video with an excellent presentation.
@zippy3711
@zippy3711 6 жыл бұрын
I'v seen other machinists this good...but they were 65 years old. This guy is sharp!!
@dwightthreepersons8074
@dwightthreepersons8074 4 жыл бұрын
Adam, I just found your channel. All I can say is OUTSTANDING !! Your skill combined with your knowledge and ability to logically explain the projects is exemplary in every way. Thanks
@howder1951
@howder1951 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam, nice little bit of shop wisdom there. Nice to see you getting together with family, cheers!
@w056007568
@w056007568 7 жыл бұрын
Good useful project there Adam, thanks.
@MaturePatriot
@MaturePatriot 5 жыл бұрын
I love true manual machining! You are a shadow of your old self. Great work.
@sheemondallasgeorgia
@sheemondallasgeorgia 4 жыл бұрын
Revisiting this old SNS, I take the liberty of saying:. This is your passion, your talent, your calling. You shine in all aspects. Make more videos, just like this one and 500k subscribers will be a reality soon.
@rayfalcone6897
@rayfalcone6897 3 жыл бұрын
very informative video Adom,great video.thank you for sharing with us older retired guys.
@mikes2294
@mikes2294 5 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying your channel, very interesting always. The camera work is impeccable, always perfect lighting and focus along with the volume. Thank you for your time and effort in explaining clearly, what you are doing, for us novices. My Father was a machinist, back in the '30 ies, and I now can really appreciate what he did. P.S. Nice shop you have there.
@StraightThread
@StraightThread 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice design. Simple. Effective. Two thumbs up!
@dougbourdo2589
@dougbourdo2589 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool little tool project for the shop Adam.
@conrayjones9290
@conrayjones9290 7 жыл бұрын
Thanx for giving metric sizes, it really help use guys that don't use imperial every day.
@WisdomVendor1
@WisdomVendor1 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone that can afford these tools and machines can buy a 3 dollar calculator and commit a couple of conversion factors to memory. It's not rocket science folks. 2.54 cm = 1 inch = 25.4 mm
@WisdomVendor1
@WisdomVendor1 5 жыл бұрын
@@SWhite-hp5xq You mean the most industrious country to ever exist on this planet in the last 300 years?
@SWhite-hp5xq
@SWhite-hp5xq 5 жыл бұрын
WisdomVendor1... thank you for strengthening my point 😂
@Xyz-ij6rh
@Xyz-ij6rh 4 жыл бұрын
@@WisdomVendor1 obv. Its not but a guy talking in Workshop English about imperial sices ...If you are not used to you dont have a feel for how much it is like non machinists usually dont have a feel for whats a 0.01mm I dont know how you like to watch Videos but i dont like to have to do conversations If u do u could watch movies in Mandarin and do a simple google translate Translation Well Imperial Sices are based on Metric Sices with a conversation faktor guess thats because imperial Guys like that so much
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 4 жыл бұрын
Adam points out that the shanks of taps are oddball sizes. While that's true for imperial taps, the majority of metric taps (especially HSS ground thread taps) have shanks from the same diameter series as the standard ISO thread diameters: 5, 6, 8, 10. 12, 16mm etc
@WoodNMetalWorkshop
@WoodNMetalWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
Adam if you want to loosen that up a bit use your torch and give the side away from the slit a bit of heat it will pull it back and give you clearance. Great project.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Yep I need to give that a shot. Thanks
@randr10
@randr10 5 жыл бұрын
This gives me some ideas for if you wanted to mount taps in a hand drill for field work. Sometimes you can't chuck stuff in a mill and tap wrenches aren't practical either. Putting your tap in a hand drill or on a socket to turn with an air ratchet is sometimes all you can make happen. Milling something with two flats in it like this might be the trick. Good video. Thanks Abom.
@robrobinson6706
@robrobinson6706 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice Adam. I really like that tap holder and I like the small project videos. Thank you.
@joebabb504
@joebabb504 5 жыл бұрын
A great big thank you for sharing this knowledge. I made one for holding a 5/8" gun tap and just finished tapping 4 holes using my mill drill.
@daki222000
@daki222000 7 жыл бұрын
one to keep in mind again. it is getting a lot. thanks, Adam. Cheers.
@TrevorDennis100
@TrevorDennis100 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very cool idea, and one that I shall certainly be using. Four years later you now have that tapping arm, but that's going to work in all situations. I always worry about power tapping, and wonder what would be a ball park tap size to be safely strong enough. Much as I hate abusing a chuck by holding a tap, that does at least give a sort of safety margin by slipping when the torque reaches a certain level. That is not going to happen with a collet driving a positive grip on the tap. I'm going to try using this method on 6mm and upwards, but I have a feeling I'll start out going just a tiny bit over on the tapping size. Say 5.1mm or 5.2mm for harder stock. BTW, I did two years at Ford UK's Apprentice Training school (starting in 1967), but I learned so much more from the older guy I shared a bench with, when I got to the big boy's work shops. Cool tricks and tips just like in this video, that helped in real world situations. You have to do the work to _really_ learn how to become good at it. Instructors who came straight from college just don't cut it.
@petermcneill80
@petermcneill80 6 ай бұрын
Good comment, I know what you mean about taps slipping an observation I made about this design tho is although the adapter is mechanically driving on the flats of the tap the adapter itself is still round in the o.d. and driven in a round collet. This is in no way a criticism it’s an observation I assume the greater surface area and larger collet allow more torque to be transmitted 🤔 👍🏻
@lowrider9367
@lowrider9367 3 жыл бұрын
You truly are a skilled machinist. I really enjoy your videos & how detailed they are. Thanks...
@samjadaci
@samjadaci 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video..... This gives me a chance for another project in my shop. 👍
@andrewmullen4003
@andrewmullen4003 4 жыл бұрын
Adam, thanks, you made my day with the description of the adjustable spanner as "all Sixteenths", love it, never heard that before, cheers from Scotland, Spud
@BobJones-cr1pl
@BobJones-cr1pl 7 жыл бұрын
Seems like those darn bushings ALWAYS want to spring on you. Makes slitting a challenging job. Fried slit saws! YUM YUM
@skeeter50001
@skeeter50001 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this project Adam. Very good information.
@IceBergGeo
@IceBergGeo 4 жыл бұрын
I love your all 16ths wrench. Never heard it like that before. Will be using it... All. The. Time.
@martineastburn3679
@martineastburn3679 3 жыл бұрын
That is a really nice collet holder you are milling with. Cast Iron strength ! Ok when sawing a tree down one uses hard plastic wedges to keep the slot (tree) from squeezing you down and trapping your $1K saw until another saw saves it !
@matthewhelton1725
@matthewhelton1725 7 жыл бұрын
Neat Tool! Simple, effective and easy! Narrow slits in any metal can be ugly.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 4 жыл бұрын
I sure love that milling machine. Sounds like a rock.
@roberthorner8494
@roberthorner8494 7 жыл бұрын
YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
ROBERT HORNER the old lathes weren't designed to run as high rippems as the newer gen lathes. Max rpm on the monarch is 700, same speed I was running the Victor.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
ROBERT HORNER Sorry, response was for Jerry.
@roderickwhitehead
@roderickwhitehead 7 жыл бұрын
31:21 "Like it was made for it!" made me laugh so hard. We had a machinist at one of the railroads that I worked at (a half a lifetime ago) that would exclaim, "Like it grew there!!!" Good times in that shop. Great times. Anyway, yet another excellent video, that I just caught up on, Adam. I need to go snag me one of those snazzy pocket tees of yours before it's too late. It's the least I can do to thank you for such great content and many smiles.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Shirts will be for sale for a few more days, so be sure to pick one up. Other wise I have my older designs on my storefront.
@davidrichards5594
@davidrichards5594 7 жыл бұрын
Very slick job on a good idea. The two camera set up worked nice. It would be great on some projects to switch from side to side.....Dave
@DexterJettster49ers
@DexterJettster49ers 7 жыл бұрын
Right on time Adam.I was just drawing a blank in the shop.Going out there now to make a couple of these.
@normcameron2316
@normcameron2316 4 жыл бұрын
I like it, thank you to you and your mentor. Better ideas. I built a bunch of tap drivers with set screws to hold the square but the screws forever come loose. This is a far simpler and better idea. Usually simplest is best.
@bzakie2
@bzakie2 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. Your knowledge and skill is just amazing.
@brandontscheschlog
@brandontscheschlog 7 жыл бұрын
I used to attend the Moultrie Swap Meet every November. Huge event! Took 20 hours to get there from PA but well worth it. I worked for Pypes Exhaust, an exhaust manufacturer. We had a huge black NASCAR style tractor trailer that we would set up. I don't remember the location because that airfield is huge !You can find Everything and anything there.
@kristoferjonsson3362
@kristoferjonsson3362 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your comment about not needing another loosening relation. You deserve the best. Merry Christmas!
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Yea Don't want to see too mess ups like that!
@richardsutherlin5162
@richardsutherlin5162 6 жыл бұрын
Always very satisfying to make your own tools!
@randallparker8477
@randallparker8477 7 жыл бұрын
We made a set of similar adapters for various valve stems in our Navy valve rebuild shop for a drill motor driven globe valve lapping setup... talking about production, an aircraft carrier has a lot of valves to work during a shipyard maintenance availability. Fond memories, thanks for the share!
@swarfrat311
@swarfrat311 7 жыл бұрын
A nifty project. Thanks for sharing. Have a good one! Dave
@douglasthompson2740
@douglasthompson2740 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Adam, Man that was one hellaceous feed! I would have brought a sleeping bag for next day's leftovers! Thanks again for some wonderful videos. Always one of the highlights of Saturday night for me. Take care. Doug
@BillyTpower
@BillyTpower 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome tool. That Sonny must have been one smart dude.
@onepairofhands
@onepairofhands 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video Adam, easy to follow commentary but always interesting stuff. keep it up
@RGSABloke
@RGSABloke 7 жыл бұрын
Hi big chap, watched SS Part 1 tonight in Helsinki Airport and Part 2 in Amsterdam Airport before flying home to Scotland. Great work Adam, you set you standards very high. Thanks for sharing. Kindest regards. Joe.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to have helped your layovers more enjoyable!
@KevinBritain
@KevinBritain 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool stuff.. clearly you have a great love and passion for this..
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 5 жыл бұрын
Great to go back and visit bud. These are a great idea !
@duobob
@duobob 7 жыл бұрын
That style of tap driver also gives you the maximum possible headroom between tap and table.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
For sure Bob, great for gaining room in the work area.
@roncartwright8125
@roncartwright8125 7 жыл бұрын
That's another little project for me to do. I could have used one of those today. Thanks for the TIP.
@chevy1986
@chevy1986 7 жыл бұрын
Awsome man, that gives me something easy to do in the shop. Thanx brother
@silverbullet7434
@silverbullet7434 7 жыл бұрын
I make them to drive in but I let them collar have a bit of play so it will pill past the square drive then you don't have to worry about breaking the tap , it allows for use in a drill press with no reverse.. I had an old mentor too Alex the Scot man. He was a real old time machinist. Real super if he liked YA you were in . YUPP he liked me shared a lot of Kool tricks. Loved just hearing him talk.
@wjf0ne
@wjf0ne 5 жыл бұрын
I was reaching for the hacksaw when you finally managed it. Another SNS fix for my addiction, thanks Adam.
@baldprisonguard1
@baldprisonguard1 5 жыл бұрын
This helped me sort out one of my upcoming projects. Great video!
@jojomama4787
@jojomama4787 7 жыл бұрын
power tapping scares the crap out of me so I try to avoid doing it,but there's so much really good information in this video it would be wise for anyone to watch.heard about this guy from a bunch of folk but my first time seeing him...gonna be paying attention now!
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel! I have many other videos to watch with a ton of mixed content.
@daviddominessy
@daviddominessy 7 жыл бұрын
Good lighting, great Audio, wonderful camera angles, Clear and concise, lots of Chips. You nailed it! I'll be making these for my Tree Mill.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks David!
@scpatent
@scpatent 7 жыл бұрын
Hi. Nice video again and what a great idea. Thanks for sharing. Best regards; Zmago - SC Patent
@marklindquist493
@marklindquist493 7 жыл бұрын
Super tap holder Adam - very much enjoyed that. Gonna have to make me some. Great video again as always! Thanks!
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark!
@Bookerb2004
@Bookerb2004 7 жыл бұрын
I love these simple shop made tools, Merry Christmas Adam
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kelly!
@arichardson46
@arichardson46 7 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video Adam,well done...👍👍👍
@tonymai4516
@tonymai4516 7 жыл бұрын
awesome project. thanks for all your work on the videos
@tnekkc
@tnekkc 6 жыл бұрын
Cutting the slot to drive the square was an idea that never occurred to me.... thanks
@totalyouttacontrol
@totalyouttacontrol 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite. just the thinking out side the box instead of trying to drill a square hole you just cut a grove with a hole the size if the square part of the tap. it is awesome.
@144nBama
@144nBama 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos and definitely hope you have an apprentice to pass your knowledge on too. Sadly, skilled Craftsmen/Tradesmen are a dying breed. I'm 51, work in a steel mill and can tell you, in just the past 20 years I've seen a horrible decline in tradesmen who take pride in their work or have the ingenuity to "make it work".
@timothybarron1077
@timothybarron1077 7 жыл бұрын
now thats an awesome pro tip!! many times the drill chuck causes height probs. Thanks Adam!!
@vansien
@vansien 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work there, great and simple idea for a common problem.
@gmckinney626
@gmckinney626 7 жыл бұрын
Another amazing creative way to git 'er done!
@timbutler5690
@timbutler5690 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching all your videos
@pyrodoll2422
@pyrodoll2422 4 жыл бұрын
The suspense with the slitting saw nearly killed me 😅 Great work as always.
@biboveralls4025
@biboveralls4025 7 жыл бұрын
Neat project. I don't power tap all that often because of the chuck issue. Now I know a better way. Thanks!
@k5at
@k5at 6 жыл бұрын
Great project, Adam!
@stevedupras689
@stevedupras689 7 жыл бұрын
This is awesome thanks for sharing!! I will definitely be making a set of these!:)
@tommy13t
@tommy13t 7 жыл бұрын
My boys love watching your videos. Keep up the awesome videos.
@ante7153
@ante7153 7 жыл бұрын
Nice project there Adam, I've been watching many of your videos and it's nice to see you drifting in to metric 😄 keep the videos coming!
@MattsMotorz
@MattsMotorz 7 жыл бұрын
Wow great video and idea. Gotta make me a few of these.
@tomclark6271
@tomclark6271 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! I'm gonna try to make an adapter like this to run annular cutters both in the mill and lathe. Merry Christmas and Thanks Adam!
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Good idea Tom!
@ScottandTera
@ScottandTera 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome , Adam thanks for making this video
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Scott Tyndall's Home Shop Your welcome Scott
@kirkbecker7919
@kirkbecker7919 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool and helpful video. I just picked up an old Logan lathe and started to play around with it a little. No real use for it....but you never know when ya need it!
@grantdavis3764
@grantdavis3764 3 жыл бұрын
I liked how you held the boring bar, i will be using that one.
@dragman377
@dragman377 5 жыл бұрын
More good info, thanks Adam.
@1970chevelle396
@1970chevelle396 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great idea.
@WAVETUBE84
@WAVETUBE84 7 жыл бұрын
Cool project Adam. You made a useful tool.
@davidschwartz5127
@davidschwartz5127 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Adam, this is something I could use! Thanks
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 7 жыл бұрын
You need an SPV tapping tool like what I have to tap on the K&T. Probably be handy on the Kearns as well. I love not having to worry about turning too hard and braking a tap. Those drivers sure look handy for when you don't have one!
@paulkapala2960
@paulkapala2960 4 жыл бұрын
Nice camera shot can see great very slick
@TheMetalButcher
@TheMetalButcher 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. What timing. After watching one of Tom Lipton's videos where he talked about tap drivers (or at least problems driving big ones), I decided to make my own. Finished it two days ago, and I then killed all of the threads on my drawbar (coincidence, not due to overtightening to keep the driver from slipping.) Yours looks a lot simpler Mr. Booth, but I can't believe we both made a tap driver around the same time. A short video of mine should have just posted to my channel, it's an r8 design that uses bushings and allens to hold onto the square.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
I have some that I made to fit in an endmill holder also
@1jtolvey
@1jtolvey 7 жыл бұрын
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!! GREAT SNS !!!
@kenwhite5132
@kenwhite5132 3 жыл бұрын
A nother good job A-bom!!!!!!
@billdlv
@billdlv 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job Adam, will have to make some of those for the shop. New camera angles look good.
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill!
@neilw2O
@neilw2O 7 жыл бұрын
Adam, that is really neat and useful. I have the luxury of climb milling as my little CNC has ball screws and R8 spindle/quill. First job on my DIY EDM attachment will be making neat slots.
@geoffflato6065
@geoffflato6065 7 жыл бұрын
sticking the catch rod in the tailstock chuck is brilliant!! no idea how I never thought of that.... Always seemed to require 3 hands to do parting.... one feeding (or ready to disengage power feed if something goes wrong) one applying coolant (no flood on the lathe here) and one with the catch rod. I've usually just stopped with coolant almost all the way through and picked up the rod then. And I must say those indexable parting tools are great! I actually enjoy parting when using the seko or Sandvik with a fresh insert, even parting stainless
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
Very easy trick, I like to use brass rods too. Have a wooden broom handle for the larger parts you have to catch.
@geoffflato6065
@geoffflato6065 7 жыл бұрын
Abom79 it's a great idea. I can't believe I've never tried it. I've got piles of brass round from 3/32-2". I've got more parting to do today, I'll give it a shot!
@judgetk8327
@judgetk8327 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Partner, I just picked myself up a Bridgeport and am looking forward to testing it out for trueness and travel. I was lucky in getting a very nice set of collets along with the deal. Who knows maybe I might show a couple little jobs I have to do right soon. I also enjoyed that tour you had in Witchita of all that collection of various machinery from days gone by. Some of which I grew up with. Thanks for your great video as usual. I don't possess your knowledge but can make what I need. You take care in these covid times. By for now.
@chucktipton9596
@chucktipton9596 7 жыл бұрын
Like it! I'll be making some, Thanks Adam
@German_MDS
@German_MDS 7 жыл бұрын
Nice project. Added to my "to do list" :)
@randyatwood621
@randyatwood621 4 жыл бұрын
awesome my friend if i knew as much as you have forgotten i would feel blessed !!!!
@SuperKingslaw
@SuperKingslaw 7 жыл бұрын
very cool little project!
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