You a soldier? Can’t imagine how hard they trained. Much respect

no the hatred for opfor comes in because they pull unrealistic moves on you like turning off their miles so they cant be killed and safety killing your whole fob at 3am lol. Also being Opfor is a lot more fun than being the unit that's on rotation lol

​@@Tobzd95 "Call your hit!"

​​@@Tobzd95ye unrealistic moves Opfor: switches to metric system, Celsius, 24-hour system and changes date format Blufor:😮😮😮

whitesupermeist

@@nestotamo8594 super memeist***

Yeah, OPFOR is a really memorable time.

@@nestotamo8594 lolwut

​first you tried to correct a persons yt name next you failed to correct it. It's white supremacist@@nestotamo8594

Still waiting for atropia and donovia to rise up against their oppressive regime.

I didn't mean direct aggression against the guys from OPFOR, of course not. I meant that they will make any unit sweat, and meeting them is not a welcome walk

@@casperarms I understand. We heard stories of them stealing vehicles at night from other units. That never happened to us, but I will say, they were very aggravating. They would "mortar" us all day and then attack at night. We hardly ever saw them physically. The worst part about it was the "Red Air." They had a "Hind" that flew around all day long killing entire columns of humvees. They got my entire platoon like that one time.

@@casperarms I suggest you look up the definition of the word hated. Whatever you meant to say, the word "hate" is not a proper translation.

@@N238E And the biggest crime is that we don't see any of this! 😤There are practically no good videos about modern OPFOR, especially about vehicles :(

Why would it be career ender?

That's what I meant, they cause a lot of problems. I didn't mean hate like what we feel for our real enemy or something like that

@@NoxIF34 horrible decisions are made regarding logistics, support, tactical failures. You stack enough of them on top of one another the Army questions if they want that person taking a unit to war. It's designed to be a filtering point, and they make it harder than the way we fight war in order to make war "easy" (for lack of a better term) NTC is tough. And it absolutely should be. Also, it's the training event where you're more likely to actually die in training. From an accident or exposure to the elements. Having a training death in a unit at NTC is also a career ender

@@deathfromabove2250 thank you for explaining.

Cope

Special Activities Division

@@johndane9754 Special Ed Division

You have no idea what weapons those dudes are using

​@@johndane9754 i think they have been renamed to special activities center (SAC) for obivious reasons lmao

@@HighOnPoint412 there are plenty of photos of them using various types of weapons. Obviously you can’t know everything but it’s easy to get a good idea.

ultra fun for opfor ultra miserable for guest unit

@@SonOfTheChinChin you speak the gospel good sir.

Prolly the only REAL use outside of Vietnam the M551 ever saw...

The other great part is getting to do lots of real army stuff, not polish floors and scissor cut grass.

PCSing there later this year

BRUH WHY YOU LYING

man army be doing some cool as training, most action ive done is shoot the 240B and throw an m67 grenade in training and sleep in the rain. Majority of my days were of a glorified janitor.

The last sentence about made me brick it.

I was stationed at Polk/JRTC and the guys in the 509th were cool as hell. I was always jealous of the OD uniforms and boonies they wore along with them being able to let their face/heads grow out.

You're trying to be funny and it's not working 😊

Both are equally inaccurate compared to what would actually happen on the battlefield

@@parrotcraft7503it is working

Whats a red cell?

@@dolphinerofachero3159 The physical security version of professional crackers, ie, they are professionals who try to get into secure places for real to see how good the security is.

@@dolphinerofachero3159There units who purposely go and try and find kinks in bases etc. They usually try and sneak on bases and try and complete a certain objective and then after they tell them what the base needs to improve on. Its a pretty dangerous jobs but to my knowledge there are no active red cell teams anymore. They almost got shot on numerous incidents.

You keep regenerating the force being trained and sometimes "Nerfing" OPFOR when they are too successful because the training value of sitting under a tree, smoking cigarettes because you're "dead", is nil. Likewise, an unit unable to go on and conduct different types of missions because they can't get past one strongpoint isn't learning anything anymore. Now, when you reset and adjust the scenario just so a unit can progress to the next lesson, the leadership is briefed *in detail* what their flaws are - I've been on both ends of those discussions.

US Army: Uses reverse card for Russian army Any other armies: we want to use the reverse card for the US Army You can't do that - your military budget will burst if you imitate the US Army))

Really?!

@@casperarms I am pretty sure, I remember him talking about opfor and him playing as the bad guys, using Russian tactics and all that jazz. Just look up his youtube short called "Why aren't the Russians using better soldiers or equipment in Ukraine?" He brings up he was in a nato adversary regiment.

Doesn't look like it.

He's not plus one shouldn't take what he says in any high regards. If I recall he worked in the intel on other things.

Lithuania and I think Estonia both have dedicated opfor unite

In south korea there are KCTC(korea combat training center) which is modeled after american NTC. OpFor in KCTC is equipped with north korean uniform, real T-80U and BMP-3 which is introduced by russia right after the collapse of soviet union. It was part of russia's national debt repayment to south korea by giving them lots of soviet weapons, so now we can use them to train south korean troops.

There were a few Soviet programs, on a much smaller scale, along these lines. But I don't think they went to anywhere near the same lengths of trying to *look* like NATO forces, so much as tried to *fight* like NATO. But, like so much else in the Soviet Union, I don't know how good it actually was, or if it was rather more of a confidence building exercise where the "NATO" forces were supposed to lose.

Repeated studies have shown that US "regular" OPFOR actually do *better* at following the enemy doctrines than the enemy forces do. Because the OPFOR guys get *way* more training and practice on enemy doctrine than the actual enemy forces do. Remember, even in a well.funded Western force, you're only.going to do a handful of "good" training exercises on a large scale (company or better) a year. Some units do more, some units do less, but by and large, a half a dozen large scale force on force exercises a year is considered "busy". Most nations get nowhere near that amount of "good training", just because of budget limitations and other obligations. The full.time OPFOR guys spend more time in the field, practicing "enemy" doctrine, against "foes" who are doing their very best to beat them, than they do sleeping at home. I ran into OPFOR guys who could call artillery☆ in 8-digit grids (a 10x10 meter box) *by eyeball and memory* , without needing to use a map, compass, GPS, or anything. These guys just memorized Target Reference Points and landmarks, becayse they spent over 200 days every year actively "fighting" in the training area. Time.and time again, ever since we instituted these types of programs, the US has found that in actual combat, the real enemy was easier to beat than the OPFOR we trained against. That's just a matter of experience on the part of our full.time OPFOR units - *no* nation can afford to have their line units in the field as much as those guys are. . ☆ Which, in the full up US system, included actually using their data, but offsetting the coordinates 1:1 to an actual artillery range, having the range report the *exact* actual impacts relative to the firing position, then translating that back 1:1 to the exercise area, and finally have "firebees" ("umpires" on ATVs with GPS and radios) drive to the calculated "as fired" impact locations and set off artillery simulators.

@@geodkyt Like I say there are things that simply can't be copy and applied through being apart of OPFOR. There's a missing gap of inside understanding of how the military force thinks and acts that can only come to be by going through the official force itself in the field of its organization and parts within it. The culture and understanding of said force and at times the very culture of where they are coming from as in the people. And just because you have copy the other side doesn't mean its up to date or fully correct in what that force is that you are copying. You can skilled at learning that thing you are copying but if its the wrong thing that you are copying depending on how wrong it is then what you learning and applying to others is meaningless. If the thing you are copying is not up to date and you are repeating something is outdated than you are indeed wasting your time and effort by anyone understanding and that has been a big problem. If you think the enemy still acts and thinks in that way 20-40 years ago compare to now than what the hell is the point of something that still being applied and use? If I was fighting the OPFOR regardless if I hold command or not I would hope that what they are giving me is the latest understanding of that force I'm fighting to beat, if it's not then why am I'm doing this? Just because you fight the enemy doesn't mean you know everything about said enemy, sure learn somethings but not everything and you are still in the fog of war with that enemy at the end of the day. Regardless of which side you're on the amount of people who are actually fighting in the war in Ukraine saying things about the Russians from the Ukrainian side is so heavily wrong it's actually shocking. Granted people lie at times or hold hostile bias but truly don't know what they are fighting at times and have no clue how they are. A lot of nations have good training and sometimes better depending of organization of the force and reasons behind it. Hate to say it but the US and western countries have been taking dip down over the years and decades in training. Countries might be training good and hard but may be training for the wrong thing. Look at PLA they had been training hard but much of what they would be training on has been understandably is not the right thing to do in conflict of any type due their lack of combat and with their latest stuff. They are almost blind to the reality of what is actually needed. Not trying to talk trash with them and are clearly able to learn but you are really going to learn what works and doesn't work until you actually doing it for real.

Yes, that is right. Now their image is more abstract than before

They even had a GTA (Graphic Training Aid) that not only permanent OPFOR, but *any* unit that wanted to do a force-on-force exercise with one part of the unit doing OPFOR (I did that a *lot* ). The GTA in question looked kind of like a Soviet paybook/ID, and had a slot you could stick your normal US military ID card in, with a cutout so only the picture would show through. They even had guidance on how to fill it out in Russian, so the "good guys" who captured or killed you had to accurate copy the info down for intelligence, so the S2 (intel) section could use it to figure out information about what units were supposedly fighting. Such "part time" OPfOR wouod also use tricks like turning your BDU tops inside out (especially with the "normal" weight BDUs, the inside didn't look like BDU M81 Woodland pattern Because it was so much lighter), or mix Desert pants with the Woodland BDU top, or use old (and no longer authorized for normal wear) OD uniforms, etc. One time, we got a pile of cheap blue berets and striped t-shirts to wear under 1960s OD fatigues for one squad, and 1960s OD baseball caps that matched the OD fatigues for the rest of the platoon. They had Soviet pattern rank slides to wear that could be ordered through supply (and "regular" OPFOR guys always wore), so guys got used to being able to interpret Soviet style rank when securing a "Soviet" position they overran.

As far as I can tell, OPFOR simulates not only Russia or the USSR, but rather a collective image of a Soviet-type army (which may well include modern Russia, Belarus, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, China, North Korea, possibly also Cuba). There is evidence that OPFOR and NTC played a huge role in the success of the operation in Iraq and Kuwait. In addition to the Eastern Bloc, they also imitate the rebels and armies of the Middle East. However, as I understand it, most of the time the emphasis is on training against Soviet-type armies

@@casperarms i would hope they would do one for Guerilla warfare or insurgent-type of warfare because I feel like that's what the US lacks at (Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc.)

​@@Knell.JRTC was founded with an emphasis on "guerilla" and other "not massive tabk battle" fights. Becayse it's the center that does light infantry (the conventional forces most likely.to be heavily involved in COIN, stabilization, and other "low intensity" scenarios). During the 1970s through the early 1990s, JRTC basically crammed the entirety of the US "major combat involvement" in the Vietnam War into about two weeks - every day, the clock would advance about a year in terms of ramping up the threat. In the mid to late 1990s, JRTC focused more on peacekeeping ops modeled on the Balkan or Africa (including a lot.of civilian clothes wearing role players who simulated innocent civilians and civil.leadership or guerrillas and spies (depending on he individual role that player was briefed for). By 2005 or so, the focus was on simulating antiinsugency in Iraq and Afghanistan. And if a unit was coming through for pre-de0lpykent training and about to go.to a specific operation, they'd often tailor the exercise to *that* operation. The issues in counterinsurgency (not just US, not even just "Western") operations are primarily at levels *above* the battalion or brigade levels these exercises are conducted at. Decisions by politicians, the State Department, the 3 and 4 start generals running the theater, etc., are outside the control of line brigades and battalions.

​@@Knell.there are Red Cell units so US troops can train for COIN

Russians do not abandon their own. SVOIH NE BROSAEM.

Is this some kind of special sport?) I see that some people do that. There is time to write a whole comment, but there is no time for a few seconds of video)

@@casperarmsno, it’s just to train guys. The whole units job is to give trainees an incredibly hard time to better train the other units. Diamonds formed under pressure and the US likes to make sure grunts can stay on their feet and think quickly

So in 2017 Belarus and Russia had training and fictional enemy country was western area of Belarus called Вейшнория (Veyshnoria has a wiki page). So part for fun, part as a hidden protest we created flag, hymn, money, passports and even socialmedia for Вейшнория. More funny is that government called this illegal extremist movement

On top of trying to blend in when doing actual combat advisory stuff, SF sometimes prefers to carry the same stuff they're teaching the host nation troops to use, even in "peacetime" training tours. If the locals have AKs, then the SF guys will.often carry AKs on the range or in exercises. Likewise G3s or whatever. Now, if they're training the locals.to be required with US stuff, they'll likely carry M4s as usual, even if they're training the locals.to use M16A2s. The reason is so the locals don't think they *need* the "Cool Guy Guns" to be decent. "Of course the Americans are better- they have the tricked out M4s, and all I've got is this beat up Romanian AK!"

The other reason for the US dirsctly.procuring new AKs and even having US made RPGs is because a lot of the partner nations we are training *can't* just up and switch overnight to new NATO stuff, and they have *trainloads* of Soviet ammo. It's easier to resupply them with stuff we can obtain from friendly nations rather than buying clapped out surplus stuff from the Cold War, and if we stick with stuff that can at least use the same ammo (and in most cases, much or all of the same spare parts, or at least the ones most likely to need replacing in service), we can minimize the impact on the poorer nation's logistics while slowly rolling new stuff in. If 3rd Platoon in C Company has the new US made RPGs covered in Picatinny rails, but everyone else in the battalion or regiment has Russian made.ones from 1985, it's still fine. Same thing if we start supplying new production AKMs from former Warsaw Pact nations that are now NATO members - the parts, magazines, and ammo are compatible, but the rifles are in way better shape than the crap they got 40 years ago and have used the Hell.out of. (That's why we bought a crapload of AKs for Iraq after we reformed their police and military - most of the ones they already had were worn out from years of use and abuse).

Specialised anti-washing-machine training

​@@G36C-556 The maritime version of OPFOR would be stealing toilets from ships.

@@G36C-556 redistribute the means of laundry

don't worry ivan you will join the meat cube soon

Well... I don't think there are that many Asian military members in America to be Chinese opfors, and even if they're Asians, they're most likely Filipinos either way... I mean it doesn't have to be the same ethnicity but, sticking close to the original material makes it more "realistic".

It's much easier for Clyde and Boone to play as Viktor and Ivan than for Lamar and Trevor to play as Zhu De and Su Yu.

You guys can't do shit to us, lol) lost the status, when was the last time you fought a real war huh?

@@user-dg9hq8uz3g I don't know? When the yankees obliterated wagner in syria without taking any casualties?

@@yumanorfolk3103 ohh, damn, you caught me. Guys with air support vs guys without air support who weren't even a part of the russian army) But go on, try to give me another example)

Maybe they are who work in RDK

I'm afraid if the 6th Fleet intervenes in this comparison, it will hurt someone very much

Weren't they shut down for legal reasons? As awkward as it sounds.

@@Mortablunt I looked it up. They never saw combat. They ran out of funding. They did humanitarian aid but then got disbanded.

@@AndRei-yc3ti There are no NATO troops in combat.

Pfft, that's quite funny. Were you a class clown in school?

OPFOR training of that period is highly outdated now, Russian doctrine changed drastically after the second Chechen war, and more so now during the Ukraine conflict. Issue that Russia had isn't as uncommon across global armies as you'd think; you don't hear it much for obvious reasons but Ukraine's army had the exact same issues with stolen and missing equipment, specially way back in 2014 when this conflict began.

Money, weapons & equipment are constantly stolen in Ukraine

3 year old meme you're reposting.

That's quite accurate. OPFOR deliberately trains as what Russia (and Russian doctrine) forces are *supposed* to do, at a level that is higher than they are *expected* to do, entirely so that they have maximum training value for the units they face. After all, if you practice against an opponent who is better than the real one, you perform better in combat than if the OPFOR isn't as skilled as the real opponant. That's also why formal OPFOR exercises regularly uses little cheats to make the "enemy" even more effective. Things like limiting the performance of simulated "US" weapons so they don't have as much range or have less effect on target than reality, which forces the "US" units to be more careful in taking their shots and setting up their positions. Things like assuming the "Russian" weapons are *at least as good* as the *better* of either their "US" counterparts or the performance the Russians *claim* they have (for example, the MILES system was programed so that an AT-3 SAGGER (9M14 Malyutka) was treated as being as effective as an American TOW II... and "Russian" MBTs (even T-55s) were considered as hard to kill when hit as an M1A2 Abrams (amd, a but that seems small, but actually can make or break the "recon fight" - the engines of US vehicles simulating Russian vehicles simply didn't smoke as much as actual Russian engines... that actually matters a lot when you're trying to see without being seen...)

You'd wish lol. You guys don't have the battle experience and doctrine necessary to fight a real war)

​@@user-dg9hq8uz3gSays the troll whose side is on the third year of their three day "Special Military Operation", and whose performance was so bad your leader pretended to annex territory he didn't even hold. And the last time the Russian Army had to face a foe that was even remotely a threat of serious hugh intensity combat was in 1945. With all the "on paper" advantages Russia has, Ukraine should have been fully conquered by the end of 2022, and Russia only dealing with a guerilla insurgency no worse than Afghanistan (oh, wait, you failed there too)... Buddy, you've had your Black Sea Fleet devastated by a nation that doesn't even have a Navy and has never achieved even neutral air control (especially over the Black Sea and the Russian ports)... You're using more ordnance specifically targeting civilians, because that's what you can actually hit. That copium and hopium you're smoking is addictive and will kill youm

We have been laughing all over the world for the third year now

lol это многое говорит о вашем обществе

@@casperarms laughing at people dying? Congrats psycho. I bet you get hard watching peoples fathers and sons die.

​@@casperarms So Ukraine losing ground is funny to you? Ok, American.

@@MausHausOKW It was sarcasm, in response to the fact that the guy above thinks it's funny that I called the Russian army evil

its the modern tarded storyteller voice.

Either it's due to voice processing, or it's because I change my voice when doing dubbing to sound (I think) more like native English speakers. Although a couple of times I actually had a little stuffy nose due to allergies, but that’s not much

Nope, not at all. If they were, they wouldn't have conducted such shoddy airborne operations in the very beginning of the war. The OPFOR guys actually get *more* time training and practicing Russian doctrine and tactics than the Russian elite forces do. They literally get *more* time training Russian stuff than US Army Rangers get practicing *American* doctrine and tactics. (The reason OPFOR can maintain such a high "operational tempo" is because they don't lose any time actually deploying and having to refit and recover afterwards. Sure they spend more time in the field than even most SOCOM units do, but they also never have to be separated from their families for months on end while they're assigned to OPFOR. And they thus never have, say, two or three months between cycles, where they are hime.pretty.much every night, broken up by months where they might not even be able to call home once a week.

@@geodkyt - I agree. Someone should make a video explaining why Western analysts usually overestimate the effectiveness of potential adversary forces. Yes, it helps guarantee that defense spending will continue. However, overestimating potential adversaries also helps prevents strategic surprise. Signs that Western equipment is superior to its Soviet counterpart were apparent in every Middle Eastern war since the 1950s. But those facts were never allowed to instill complacency.

ага из Афгана сбежали ,в Ираке 20 лет найти ничего не можете.

nuh uh The Americans created one battalion of opfors in Ukraine, and in last year they suffered heavy losses under Bakhmut. "American spetznas" lost to ordinary mercenaries 😂😂😂

@@user-x1dgr9dwn2 уголовникам набранным Пригожиным по тюрьмам.

They simulate enemy troops on training grounds. It is considered a crime to wear the enemy's uniform in a real war, but OPFOR has never done this and will not

Nope. The only time wearing an enemy uniform is a war crime is when you do it *in the war theater*. And even then, it isn't *always* a war crime, provided you don't *fight* in the enemy uniform and don't get captured in it. Wearing uniforms that roughly approximate (or even exactly duplicate) enemy uniforms when you aren't in enemy controlled territory nor in combat is no more a war crime than an actor wearing it for a movie would be. Last I checked, the Russian Army wasnt actually invading Germany, Louisiana, or Washington state... and those guys simulating Russian based forces aren't actually spying behind Russian lines nor engaging on combat with Russian forces.

​@@casperarms oh I understand now

No. They’re not fighting dressed as Russians soldiers, they’re training other American soldiers. Lots of armies do it.

i pinned ur mom already : D

Because this is not an AI, but my real voice. I know English very poorly, and I do not know why many people think that I use AI

@@casperarms do not mind the morons, its part of the job

@@casperarms your voice is fine m8

@@casperarms oof XD

@@casperarmsyou sound a bit robotic to be honest.

You know a carbine is a type of rifle right? Not a specific gun

Depends on the “carbine” Sks is a Carbine, some models of the AK are carbines, most models of the AR are carbines

@--------123 disagree to both

@--------123 ship is the boat, who agrees?

They are for training other us soldiers I believe.

Don't be silly. OpFor units are only used for training actual combat units. There is no real war in California, Louisiana or Germany.

They aren't in combat. These are training units, on US Army bases, using *blanks* in war games against *other* US and NATO units. The Laws of War don't even apply in the slightest.

Do you really think that I consider OPFOR to be Russian (literally Russian) guys?

Look at the video before!

They’re using Russian tactics competently.

He means by using russian tactics to learn how to counter act and blend in.

To be fair, it is *really expensive* to set one of these units up correctly, and requires more than just "guys in enemy uniforms with enemy equipment" to do it correctly. You've literally got to equip *every* troop with both the laser receiver harness *and* an emitter for their weapons, and the laser equipment used has to be able to code what kind of weapon it is supposed to simulate (so a rifle laser doesn't "kill" a tank) and the harness knows what kind of target *it* is (so a tank doesn't ignore a ATGM), and to really maximize the training value, you need to instrument every vehicle and major force and the entire range, so you can quickly and accurately make "cartoons" showing how the battle went with everyone depicted in the correct locations and major weapons showing where they are shooting and when. And then there are simulating airstrikes and artillery, while also getting the air and artillery.crews "good training" (for example, at places like NTC, the artillery *really* fires the missions as they are called in, and the actual impacts of real ammo on the impact zone are used to plot where the shells would fall on the wargame in real time. It's just that the artillery crews are offset to an actual artillery range where their shells stay on the designated artillery range and *can't* land on the troops running around with blanks. Imagine adding, say, putting the guns 50km North of where they are "supposed" to be in relation to the war game, and the Fire Direction Center just adds 50km North to all the calculations they send the gun crews.) Realistically, Russia *couldn't* afford to do it the way the US does. And US exercises before MILES and OPFOR were just as silly and useless. Hell, we still do live fire exercises basically the way you did, because there's no safe way to do "force on force" with live ammo. Although we do use things like Simunitions (basically real guns modified to use special "paintball" ammo that feeds and fires like live ammo) for force on force at close range, like city fighting.