Real. And the way they sound so confident trying to prove a point but they sound so fcking dumb, like- bitch im not the one who wasted a decade of my life training to sing just to barely be able to hit a simple note💀🙄

Like Hybe girl group fans especially always say annoying stuff like that. I bet they lowkey know they can’t defend their talentless favs.

My favourite is when they say stuff like "Iet me see if you could do better" and I actually could lmfao, like send me the same ammount of money these people are getting paid, give me a month (assuming that's the minimum preparation these groups have), then I'll present to you an embarassing mess but I assure you it would atleast be better cause that's how bad it is. I'd like to see these groups improve especially cause the groups who are involved in this recently I happen to be fan of their songs, but the delusion of stans (sometimes the idols) are really just what gets to my nerves

Or them changing the subject like " do your favs even have ____ award??" I think the one who mostly says this are a bunch of hybe girl group stans who only cared about popularity than their faves needs an improvement..

@@Haerin-sp5lf real tho

The way these people surely won’t even know about all the other members’ variety appearances or about Leeseo’s OST and Rei’s own youtube channel…they only pay attention to Wonyoung’s activities and scream about favoritism whenever she breathes 💀

I even feel like wonyoung is being “left” down sometimes for the others to shine. Like getting fewer lines and even she makes herself small to not outshine them.. as long as they are a healthy, happy gg. Why does it matter? They are all unique in their own way.

​@@Phd366yes.

​​@@Phd366 Yes as wonyoung Stan since 2018..i feel that in ive ,i know she declined ton solo schedules for focus group schedules ..yet she get hate for shine when yujin and rei are the most promoted than her. Wonyoung is obliged to loss her solo opportunities in important schedules in her carrer because the non fans never check ive solo schedules...they trying hard to hate wonyoung

Wonyoung do get activities that makes her more noticed to non fans. Like her being MC on Music Bank and many award shows. Wonyoung also was former IZ*ONE member. Like most people don’t keep up with every brand a random idol signs up with. Stuff like acting debut, year end collabs and MC stuff is what you notice. I don’t stan IVE, but I do see Wonyoung on some award being a MC. I think someone else from IVE also is a MC for Inkigayo now. Or is she from illit, I am not so sure.

I dance breaks are wonderful one doesn't have to always dance and sing at the same time. Song breaks allow for the artist to interact closer with the audience as well. There's room for it all sing and dance, lyric's only parts and dance breaks mix and match is the way to go it's far more interesting that way as well.

What has Hybe done that’s messed up? Specifically? Just because the haters cast non specific shade on Hybe , doesn’t mean it’s real. We know Min has messed up, big time. End of story. Good luck Hybe in weeding her out. Hybe is an incredible success story. Can’t be easy running a massive enterprise. Could you do it?

Hybe is going full corporate, putting quantity over quality, working with shady people like Scooter Braun and Min Hee-Jin, who apparently like to use minors as cash cows. How many of the current Hybe groups will last longer than 7 years? As a casual listener you might not care but as a fan you are emotionally attached to them. The more groups Hybe has the easier it becomes for them to replace groups once they cause any kind of trouble, become less profitable or make high demands for their next contract.

@@nehalilisays Let’s hope you don’t go into business for yourself. Haha. What a lot of twaddle, oh wise one.

@@MoonstoneStarChaser…. I’m going to assume you don’t work in business either and you’re also not an adult from your comment. Not only is this company working with known criminals mind you they’re working with someone who’s being investigated by the federal law in fucking America in their own country, this person has to flee to South Korea to work with them because he’s being under investigation by both federal government and the regular government because of his ties to shady ass people and for Illegally obtaining the rights to some of his artist work. This company also has an issue that fans and the Korean business people have pointed out. It’s not even just fans, but as people who work in the industry is pointed this out about the company that they lack proper training for some of their idols, and that they overwork some of their artist, they have a boy group that I’m a casual listener to since their debut which was about four years ago now they have not had one break. I mean, they have had a CD come out which takes several months to sit there and record and practice choreography for comeback, then went straight to touring which again during the time of them recording that album in the first place they were sitting there and practicing for choreographies for the tour and then come back to South Korea to have two weeks where they weren’t doing anything because they were recording another album because they have had four albums back to back along with having three tours back to back and they’re currently just finishing a tour and coming out with a new album. Not overworking your artist I don’t know what the fuck is. That’s not even getting the fact that their biggest group that they’ve had to date the group that created them BTS has actually come out on more than than one occasion. Having talked about the direction of the company and how they don’t necessarily like it they have themselves complained about the pricing for things because they think it’s ridiculous how overpriced they have made certain objects that shouldn’t be over $100. They sat there and talked about the fact that they’ve been fighting with the company because of the fact that their vision of the music that they want to come out with and the Vision that the company is trying to push for them as a group is no longer aligned with one another but the only reason why they say is because they do have alliances with the other staff members and people who work there and they do have freedom to a certain degree. They have on multiple, interviews basically sat there and talked about how songs like butter and stuff were pushed by the company, but not to look forward to more songs like that because that’s not the type of music they want to come out with that’s not the message that they want to push, which basically is saying without blatantly coming out that them in the company no longer have the same vision when it comes to the music they want to come out with. Everyone is aware of the fact that they have not been properly some of Their groups. That’s something that they’ve been called out for even in the Korean entertainment industry. I feel like that’s another thing that people keep overlooking who wanted to defend this company people who work in the same industry as them even people who are in like rival companies I’m talking people people and companies where they’re actually friendly with one another or even just people in the business side of entertainment, sat here and pointed out how this company has gotten really big really fast but they’re also cutting corners and making a lot of stupid business decisions ones that do not benefit them at the end of the day because of anything is going to either cause for the groups to not have longevity to be able to last longer than seven or so years but also it’s causing doubt for other businesses of people who wanna work with them like who’s going to wanna work with a company that hired a man who is being investigated for having ties to literal child and human trafficking rings who sat there and has, basically disappear from his own country because he’s being investigated for breaking federal laws we’re only aware of two of the federal law laws but there’s more than two charges against this man. Homegirl has fucked up and she definitely should pay for that if she did the crimes that the company has said that she’s done and she’s a bit of a fucking weirdo, but the shit that this corporation is doing is insane and the fact that it still has fans for defending the corporation at the end of the day, why are you defending the corporation who doesn’t give a shit about you you are nothing more than a dollar sign in their eyes. You should be caring about the artist and sometimes caring about the artist means not liking the fucking corporation that they’re signed to and wanting to see change there, and also clearly there is some kind of evidence to this company doing shady shit is just rumors of them being a part of stuff which mind you other companies such as cube entertainment, and JYP entertainment have also been accused of being pulled part of cults or having sat there and done like manipulation to the charts and stuff ironically enough, though neither one of those companies were actually actually sat there and investigated for those things first of all the companies put out their own things like they just went straight to the police and gave them all the information that they needed to show that they never manipulated any chart. The police didn’t have to investigate them for that shit not only that but they also sat there and we’re just like yeah no we’re not a part of any calls so they weren’t investigated for that either the fact that this company is actually still being investigated for both of those allegations sizzle about how muchpeople genuinely over there and South Korea think this company is shady and has been at least because even if those allegations aren’t true being investigated means that every part of this company is gonna be investigated because they genuinely probably think that there’s something that they’re hiding or trying to pretend isn’t going on and they will get to the bottom of it.

@@MoonstoneStarChasereww Company Stan Go and kiss Bang Si Hyuk’s @ss We don’t need you

La musica de baby monster es basura y no es culpa de otros grupos que los fans de baby monster no puedan darle mas notoriedas es culpa de su empresa y su mala gestión

is there a source for that statement? I'm surprised since it's usually the stylists that are in charge of hair/outfits...

The way people have been spreading the wildest conspiracy theories because of that supposed hybe cult is insane. And yes, min heejin was extremely disgusting for namedropping all of those groups…unprofessionalism at its peak. I just hope the artists won’t be damaged too much, especially newjeans that seem to be in a very precarious state.

People like to see giants fall to an average level. Hybe's girlgroups have been pretty successful lately, so I guess many haters think that now is the right time to put a cap on their success.

REALLLLLLLLLL

and mind you, I am not a dive/babymonster stan

Babymonster gets hate? They are so talented and have not even had a scandal lately.

@@vixxexo6855 lol their talent is probably the main reason for the hate, along with the fact that they're bp's younger group ofc. people don't like that they because the became so popular before even releasing music n stuff

The fact make mad and laugh.. Ive members reveal they chosed sometime their own outfits and hairstyle also this is own style. Wonyoung have best coquette style

You know the bar is in hell when talented groups are bashed for being “too talented” 🙃

That Chiqita did make weird expressions, but people complained about Ahyeon hyping up the people in Inkigayo. Like people said Aespa are too robotic and now complain Babymonster hypes the audience too much. I wonder what they even want.

@@vixxexo6855 aespa aren't robotic and baemon aren't extra. people will never be happy

@@sIumps I like Aespa’s stages, I just said what other people say about them. I also like that BabyMonster performs live and give their best.

@@vixxexo6855 yeah~ i am criticising others, not you

or put in dance breaks so the artist have time to recovery a bit between songs went performing live in concerts that are going to last more then 30minutes.

@@eileencritchley4630 it depends, dance breaks most of time take up a lot of energy

Blackpink and most of 3rd gen and before like has always been good at easier-to-dance choreos and dance breaks. Nowadays, most 4th and 5th gen gg wants to cater to tiktok, so they have to make the moves difficult and "trendy" even if they know the idols cannot keep up well

@@user-mc4ju4r but not as much as trying to do hard choreo and sing at the same time. Not even BTS don't do hardcore all through every song while all singing at once and BTS are extremely fit far fitter with bigger lung capicity than most GG. It's one of the biggest reason they are doing so well in the military.

It’s weird in her case..She has been obsessed with youth and giving minors inappropriate concepts ever since her SM days.

They beeeeeeen sending trucks to Hybe, solo stans send them all the time, its just another day at HYBE! Its really a waste of money, cant that money be put toward something really worthwhile? People are doing fundraisers to send these trucks!!! Come onnnnn!!!

sending trunks is stupid as they only achieve 2 things it cost the the protestor money plus it makes them look like silly little uneducated hate fill monsters.

Actually I agree, rap is prolly their only outstanding prowess, in fact their main vocalists are pretty much on bar with Nmixx's weakest vocalists and I noticed that most of the members are too stylistic to develop any further so most of them might just stagnate in the future.

If only they were given good songs they be the top group. I’m sure one day they will and blow up tho

What a nasty little hater you are. Bang PD is not trash. For heavens sake, he’s a huge success story having almost bankrupted himself to support his little company and BTS and turned it into an amazing enterprise. He loves BTS and they love him back. He seems like a generous, hardworking man dedicated to making music. Your comment is destructive and thoughtlessly mean. We all know Min has allegedly indulged in something shady. Hybe sure has contacts and connections, but that’s not illegal or shady. It’s called business 101. You want a lesson in shade? Look at your politicians. Think before you talk next time.

Here’s what I think, it would be better if you stopped thinking. You talk utter nonsense. It would be easy to ignore If it wasn’t so nasty, destructive and naive. We do know that Min alarmingly put on a PR stunt. We know a bit about her character now. She seems like a handful. We know Hybe is trying to manage it. End of story. How would you deal with it, oh wise one?

@moonstonechaser ooooo a hybe stan...i didn't think I'd see one😀

@@MoonstoneStarChaser Because you don't think Hybe put on a PR stunt? That's all they ever do and it's scary how y'all fall for it every time. They tried to make it seem like Heejin wanted to make Ador independent from Hybe when she said that was never her intention. She just got pissed because of some choices Hybe made and the moment she voiced her opinions Hybe divulged everything and tried to paint her as the one and only villain. She has made mistakes and is not a good person but stop kissing up to Bang Sihyuk and Hybe when they're just as bad. Let's think about gfriend and nuest disbandments, how they threw garam under the bus, all the payola they use...Hybe is shady as hell and so is bang pd.

@@mitchierainbow7353 Oh very grown up. Enjoy your play lunch.

you say they are both snakes but you only point out Min heejin especially when we all know that Hybe is doing its best to control the narrative around this situation. Interesting.....

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I love jennie but i agree

no, she has her moments but your lying of you say that she ALWAYS is lacking