Some information on intel CPU voltages.

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I read a post that 1.52V is safe far too often to let this slide.
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@brettwallace7211
@brettwallace7211 7 жыл бұрын
this is the only guy that actually knows anything about overclocking on youtube, keep the vids coming brother!
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Last I checked Der8auer also has a YT channel. Though he doesn't do as much or as in depth content. Which is sad cause he knows a lot.
@brettwallace7211
@brettwallace7211 7 жыл бұрын
you make a person understand it and not just tell them how to, thats why this channel is different
@hsharma3933
@hsharma3933 3 жыл бұрын
Not the only guy, but one of the best ones here.
@MyKeyz
@MyKeyz 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thank you for this video. 99% of r/overclocking have no fucking idea what so ever
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
and they're already down voting the video but whatever it's not my CPUs that are being run at 1.52V.
@MyKeyz
@MyKeyz 7 жыл бұрын
Actually Hardcore Overclocking Yep, I am also constandly beeing downvoted on that cancerous site. As someone who actually understands what you are saying, I do really appreciate the video.
@MyKeyz
@MyKeyz 7 жыл бұрын
Primary Graphics Yeah 1.55V is a good Voltage to pop your cpu within a few months lol
@neurowave9076
@neurowave9076 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud that I'm your subscriber. Thank you.
@f4t4l43
@f4t4l43 7 жыл бұрын
i still don't understand why you are at only 9k subs you deserve so mutch more KEEP IT UP !!!!
@ArtisChronicles
@ArtisChronicles 7 жыл бұрын
Kenny Vermeiren yup. all I can say is to keep sharing his videos.
@amdsquad
@amdsquad 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative channel mate. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@JessM1
@JessM1 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, I think you do a great job with your videos. You definitely go waaaaay more in depth than anyone ells. I'd listen to your recommendations looooooong before I'd listen to any of these other jokers on youtube. IMO they just want easy money. You take your time, and dissect every aspect of every angle, which IMO is good. Pretty much everyone ells tries to be funny and entertaining, maybe that works for their channel, and that will get them all the "kids" that wanna "game", but when I just want some solid information. I know this is the place to be.
@Hotrob_J
@Hotrob_J 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation on why CPUs clock so much higher on LN2. I've always wondered that.
@bioharz9625
@bioharz9625 7 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE GREAT. you make OC great again ^^
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
FIRST! BTW is the new mic better or worse?
@DooD22
@DooD22 7 жыл бұрын
second?
@zzrosezz7729
@zzrosezz7729 7 жыл бұрын
Actually Hardcore Overclocking Good
@drewb242
@drewb242 7 жыл бұрын
Better I think, especially with my headphones. Highs aren't as ear piercing, sounds a bit smoother for lack of a better word.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm using a proper mic for this video now that I have a "stand" for it. The streams will still be on the LAV.
@d4rks0m3thing
@d4rks0m3thing 7 жыл бұрын
Running a delidded bare die 875K @ 4.3GHz @ 1.55v for a long time now. This is the minimum voltage I could get this clock stable. Is it going to die? haha
@thunderresistant
@thunderresistant 7 жыл бұрын
Kudos, thank you, very informative!
@holthuizenoemoet591
@holthuizenoemoet591 7 жыл бұрын
as always , a very good video. How does the in internet voltage regulator in the haswell (e) en brodwell (e) serie's effect the termperature of the chip ? And what would be the influence of the input volt to the Vcore conversion for that matter.
@pablo9364
@pablo9364 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video very useful indeed
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 4 жыл бұрын
It's safe to run on Prescott and somewhat borderline safe on Conroe. And even that is at the limit. Not sure in which way the TriGate differ to planar gates, but obviously not up that high. Would say even 1.4v is critical on 14nm
@Testbug000
@Testbug000 7 жыл бұрын
If you want to push over 1.5V, basically grab some chips made on a FD/PD-SOI process. Which basically just means Piledriver, or any POWER CPU you can get. FinFETs is more practical with where the market needs are, but I very much hope to see 22FDX/12FDX adopted also.
@vaxel7
@vaxel7 5 жыл бұрын
I've actually had Quad Q6600 running on 1.5v for like 8 years and it still worked (and probably still works, still got it laying around somewhere with old mobo) until I upgraded my PC a year and a half or so ago, granted it did have an impact on the health of it, by the end of usage I was only able to get it to run stable at 3,4ghz, at it's prime time it was able to run on 3,9ghz
@leobitencourt4719
@leobitencourt4719 4 жыл бұрын
Different architecture, different lithography. Pentium 2's used to run at 2V, at stock. So it's not really a good comparison.
@speedfastestsolo
@speedfastestsolo 7 жыл бұрын
Nice mic and knowledge. Thats max default vid is about 1.52v, but that without load line calibration i think.
@melangkoh4184
@melangkoh4184 7 жыл бұрын
can you talk about VTT/QPI Voltage please? Is there actually a reason to play with it? i bought a GA z68xp-ud5...i wanna pump up voltages.
@leobitencourt4719
@leobitencourt4719 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, it has to do with the memory controller. I'm not sure tho. I wouldn't raise it unless you want it to work with higher clock ddr3... but that could be dangerous. I personally undervolted it.
@renofischa
@renofischa 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Thanks. It will help my that I'm not going to destroy my i7-7700k. What's the best programm to test the stability of ram-overclocks?
@walk3rshyper314
@walk3rshyper314 4 жыл бұрын
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking What max voltage would you recommend on coffee lake CPUs? specifically the i7 9700k? and what about temperatures as well? I would like to run it for daily usage but not 24/7 e.g up to about 8 hours per day or so at most.
@shadyreaperxoc9847
@shadyreaperxoc9847 7 жыл бұрын
FYI the old Intel P4 1.5GHz 423 CPUs run 1.7v and a lot of 478 CPUs run more then 1.5v just so you know great video tho lots of good info in it thanks again
@leobitencourt4719
@leobitencourt4719 4 жыл бұрын
That's way way older. Also a different architecture, with a much bigger lithography.
@el-danihasbiarta1200
@el-danihasbiarta1200 3 жыл бұрын
you cannot compare them
@drewb242
@drewb242 7 жыл бұрын
Random question not in context of the video I understand if you don't answer. What do you think of the ASUS STRIX Z270F VRM? I just bought one to pair with a 7700k and I plan on overcloking to maybe 5.0ghz or so if my chip will do it. I kind of jumped the gun and now I'm thinking the gigabyte K7 would have been a better choice in the 200 dollar price range in regards to the VRM, the K7's VRM just looks more robust. Does it even matter that much? Love the channel, I have learned a lot from your videos.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Either of those board will do 5Ghz. Honestly I think the ASUS board might have the better VRM. But without close ups of the VRMs without heatsinks it's hard to say for sure.
@drewb242
@drewb242 7 жыл бұрын
I can see some numbers right behind where the thermal pad touches the VRM. They are PQ1021, PQ1013, and PQ1011. I tired googling them couldn't find much. I haven't a clue how the heatsink comes off, no screws or rubber grommets on the back of the board.
@Mave74BassEditsfortheBlowout
@Mave74BassEditsfortheBlowout 7 жыл бұрын
so if the CPU degrades not by voltage but by current... can i use the measured power from aida64 and then divide it by core voltage (EG: 105 Watts/1.46vcore -> 72amps)?
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Software current readings aren't great in terms of accuracy. The other issue is that current draw out side 100% load will look low but since it's not evenly distributed it still causes damage. Also the current specs in that datasheet seem to be for peak current not continuous. So basically just stick to the 1.4 - 1.45V guidelines.
@vessk000
@vessk000 6 жыл бұрын
So what is the Vcore limit for Haswell-E/Broadwell-E?
@miller330i
@miller330i 7 жыл бұрын
Sound is good.
@SergeantZeta
@SergeantZeta 7 жыл бұрын
Where can I go to get info on tuning my 5820k? I'm at 4.6GHz 1.35v(IIRC) on all cores with speedstep disabled and I'm desktop/game stable all day, but not synthetic bench stable. With my current cooling I'm not willing to increase the vcore much and I'm not even sure how high is advisable for Haswell-E.
@claytonalexander9105
@claytonalexander9105 7 жыл бұрын
good stuff buildzoid... i buy hardware and build and sell systems for a living... Gone through at least 40 unlocked i5 and i7 chips in the last couple years. only ever had a problem with my own personal 6850k. One night it went out and the system wouldnt turn on the next morning... i did have it running at 4.6Ghz. 4.7 was possible. (never seen another BWE chip like it) voltage was set to a constant 1.388 and through every bit of monitoring software i would run as far as i know it would stay constant. However the bios on my x99 Sabertooth would read significantly higher... 1.6v+... i always just figured it to be off in the bios for whatever reason... i RMAed the chip, but not after testing multiple psus, rams, gpus and motherboards... everything else always came up fine. i had no choice to conclude it was the chip. im still waiting for a new one but honestly... im still not convinced. i dunno... anyways thanks for the video, loved it.
@MarshallSambell
@MarshallSambell 4 жыл бұрын
Clayton Alexander two years later can I get a follow up on this? Did intel give you a new one?
@ii_r_ftw
@ii_r_ftw 7 жыл бұрын
the vid table for imvp8 is in an richtek as seen www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT3606BE/DS3606BE-02.pdf on table 1 and it maxes at 1.52V
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for finding it. And unsurprisingly it still tops out at 1.52V who could've guessed.
@ii_r_ftw
@ii_r_ftw 7 жыл бұрын
Ya well anybody who was surprised really needs to look at proof by induction. And that table was hard to find I needed to go to two different data sheets and search...ya need to work on your googlefoo
@petermuller9244
@petermuller9244 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! Got a 4770K @ 4.64Ghz @ 1.28V VCore & Vring 1.85V CCIN - delidded (not liquid metal yet) at 80°C max. Looks like I could push further for a long term use. Does somebody know by how much the internal resistance of a CPU will lower when cooling it lets say by 10°C better? Or how much is the internal ressistnace dependant of a CPU dependant on temperature?
@Christopher_42
@Christopher_42 3 жыл бұрын
Please one question, I run almost 1,5 volts on xeon 5675 32nm for a couple for hrs to test if its stable... it wasnt so I rolled back to lower stable oc. Could I have degraded the cpu? It was set on vid max 1,492 volts on 4,7 ghz... now I roll to 4,5 and I get bsod sometimes... did it degrade???
@Colehh
@Colehh 7 жыл бұрын
I believe in a max safe voltage of 1.4v. I think you could 25/7 that with little degradation over the years. 2500k just overclocked for the first time with a vcore of 1.33v at 4.6GHz. Might up that to 1.4v and give 5GHz a try, but i digress. Feels a little close to the 1.45v max recommended from guides and whatnot.
@bewolfzr9969
@bewolfzr9969 6 жыл бұрын
I have a question about undervolting, can it degrade your cpu or cause some hardware issues ?
@krimskrams9339
@krimskrams9339 7 жыл бұрын
What would you say is a "regular (ok)" voltage for SB before passing the limit?
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
1.45V I'd say is the upper limit.
@smokeydops
@smokeydops 7 жыл бұрын
Your comment about amps killing silicon reminded me of my GTX 660. Or rather, my three GTX 660s that died and were sequentially replaced by warranty (thanks EVGA!). They all died while playing PlanetSide 2. Apparently hammering the GPUs at 100% load at 74 C just irreversibly degraded them very, very quickly. At first they would just artifact, then they would start artifacting REALLY BAD, then they would start crashing. If you had a 660 around it would be neat if you could.. uhh.. reproduce this (like you'd want to kill a GPU) It's kind of funny because my R9 Fury Nano is sort of doing the opposite. The longer I run it, the less it artifacts and crashes... I don't know man, Fiji is weird. [1240 mV, btw)
@bs11100010
@bs11100010 7 жыл бұрын
So using an online calculator, at 1.45 volts the cpu would be drawing 138.3 watts and 95.4 amps assuming a .0152 resistance? So Lowering the temperature also lowers the resistance giving you more head room? and conversely higher temps increase resistance? i assume there are maths to calculate temps impact on resistance? Sorry for the n00b questions.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Which calculator what CPU? Also CPUs have different leakage and that messes with the calculation accuracy.
@bs11100010
@bs11100010 7 жыл бұрын
I was assuming a 7700k with max 1.52v and 100 amps. rapidtables.com/calc/electric/watt-volt-amp-calculator.htm just trying to get some ball park figures and learn some things for fun.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Doesn't work like that. I have a rather basic CPU power calculator program that I trust for +/-10% and for a 7700K doing 5GHz on 1.52V it predicts 120A with 180W of power draw. For 1.45V at 5Ghz it works out to 165W and 113A. But I think the IGPU is probably messing up my figures.
@bs11100010
@bs11100010 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I didn't think about how frequency impacts those calculations. I suppose you need a more specialized calc than the first one that pops up on a google search! Though when i did put in Your numbers for reference, I got 166 wats and 114.47 amps at 1.45 volts. All super interesting, i have a 7700k and a ROG ix hero that should be here today/tomorrow! Thanks for the awesome youtube content! keep it up!
@walk3rshyper314
@walk3rshyper314 4 жыл бұрын
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking What max voltage would you recommend on coffee lake CPUs? specifically the i7 9700k? and what about temperatures as well?
@spddmn24
@spddmn24 7 жыл бұрын
Are monitoring programs like hwinfo accurate for CPU power draw?
@mrawesomelemons
@mrawesomelemons 7 жыл бұрын
So how do you determine current? And where can I find the max safe current for every CPU?
@mrawesomelemons
@mrawesomelemons 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video and content! You are few of the overclockers who share knowledge and it is amazing! You are helping so much!
@joshuasteinke993
@joshuasteinke993 7 жыл бұрын
V=IR, P=VI=. This video also contains a table for max safe wattage based on the cpu
@mrawesomelemons
@mrawesomelemons 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah but how do I determine the wattage? I'd have to measure that somehow too
@R3BootYourMind
@R3BootYourMind 7 жыл бұрын
I'm just thinking that would you consider hiring an editor for your videos? Also would you be okay if I tried to edit some of your videos? I'm pretty sure that trying to record these in one take is hard and time consuming.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
I have a number of reasons why I don't want an editor free or otherwise. As for the time it takes to shoot my videos. These days I record so fast I could probably do a video a day with ease if it weren't for that fact that I have all kinds of other problems to deal with.
@R3BootYourMind
@R3BootYourMind 7 жыл бұрын
You have said many times that you don't want the quality of your videos to be any better since you can't do it yourself but once you get competition the growth of the channel could be at risk. But the choice is yours and I respect it what ever it is.
@Random-yq1wu
@Random-yq1wu 5 жыл бұрын
My 6700K is currently 4.7Ghz with fixed 1.385v 24/7 on air.
@streetguru9350
@streetguru9350 7 жыл бұрын
So what's the safe limit for FX chips? Although I suppose mine will only be around for another month or so, running at 4.2Ghz 1.4V, didn't get a too great an FX 8300 though I suppose that's to be expected
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
AMD actually published their own OC guide for the FX chips and it recommends a maximum voltage of 1.5V however I've never managed to degrade any of the 32nm GloFo CPUs with core voltage. I killed 1 North bridge and killed a memory channel. But even 1.75V core on H2O didn't do much to the cores. the major problem with high voltage on FX is that above 1.53V you really need a custom water loop to keep them cool and they are very temperature sensitive(pretty much true for all GloFo CPUs).
@gloopsgloops
@gloopsgloops 7 жыл бұрын
www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard Great guide for overclocking fx chips and it also recommends a max voltage of 1.55V
@streetguru9350
@streetguru9350 7 жыл бұрын
Actually Hardcore Overclocking Wonder if Ryzen will that be tanky
@TheAprilChicken
@TheAprilChicken 7 жыл бұрын
lol then theres me when i first overclocked my 3570k and gave it 1.64v for a couple seconds because LLC is smart (set to 1.3v for 4.5ghz and not under load at the time) and btw you didnt link that asus overclocking guide you talked about in the video
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Fixed the lack of a link
@BlackCubone
@BlackCubone 7 жыл бұрын
Actually Hardcore Overclocking tnx!
@FM4AMGV
@FM4AMGV 7 жыл бұрын
i have an old chipset board for my fx-6300 from asus and can confirm that the LLC is useless, all it does is add voltage at idle to compensate.
@d0m1n4t1
@d0m1n4t1 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 6700k and an Asus Sabertooth z170 s motherboard. Auto vcore is set to 1.316v (BIOS reading), software shows a max of 1.424v. Obviously this is high and results in high temps at stock (above 80c at load). I've tried clearing CMOS and different BIOS, still get same auto vcore. I manually set the vcore to 1.2v and the BIOS reads 1.216v, software shows 1.226v max. It's completely stable at this voltage, temps are well below 70c at load. VID still shows requests for over 1.4v though. Could you offer any thoughts on this, as far as the safety of this auto vcore and why the hell Asus would set it so high? Thanks!
@mlibby05
@mlibby05 7 жыл бұрын
ASUS is in the market of selling motherboards that overclock for gamers/enthusiasts. It is in ASUS's best interests to make it easier to overclock and they do this by increasing the voltage when a chip is used in 'Auto' mode especially if any of the performance features are enabled in the BIOS. When overclocking you should keep the CPU voltage on adaptive or manual.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah gigabyte does the same thing. No idea why they do it. I suspect it's so that beginners can OC by just raising the core clock ratio without touching voltages but I've never seen an official reason for it.
@d0m1n4t1
@d0m1n4t1 7 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, I suppose. I'd understand more if I were auto overclocking - 1.424v out of the box seems way unnecessary for stock clocks. C states and speedstep are enabled by default too. I couldn't find any definitive answer anywhere which is why I asked. Thanks.
@mlibby05
@mlibby05 7 жыл бұрын
d0m1n4t1 That voltage seems absurd for stock clocks. I was assuming you were overclocking. How are your temperatures when using the machine?
@d0m1n4t1
@d0m1n4t1 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Libby At manual 1.2v idle temps are around 27°, rendering/gaming temps are around 67°. Using Hyper 212 Evo. Auto vcore load temps exceeded 80°.
@bogmirkovic8219
@bogmirkovic8219 7 жыл бұрын
Dude i need your help!! I installed rx480 (Sapphire 4gb, no oc) on the old mobo, worked like charm the first day.. Today i get random colored lines on the splash screen of the mobo manufacturer only (GA-P67-DS3-B3). Post doesn't have them, booting in the windows doesn't have them, when in windows not a single issue, multiple hours of gameplay no issue.. I've noticed that the fans of the card ramp up hard when starting the PC.. Any help would be nice..
@petermuller9244
@petermuller9244 7 жыл бұрын
Remove the BIOS battery and reset the BIOS configuration. And update the BIOS to the newest version if not already. Check if there is any dust in the PCIe slot of the GPU.
@bogmirkovic8219
@bogmirkovic8219 7 жыл бұрын
Already did all of that, but the problem is the newest bios for this board is already 5 years of age.. :( Anyway i disabled splash screen in bios and you know what they say "Out of sight, out of mind" :D I was just worried there wasn't a bigger issues underlying that anomaly.. Thx for the reply btw..
@onfireminium3798
@onfireminium3798 7 жыл бұрын
Can I calculate the amps of my cpu/gpu ?
@MrTommymxr
@MrTommymxr 7 жыл бұрын
my brother wanted to undervolt his 4670k, instead of 1.09V he put 1.9.. it booted and ran no problem. but after realising his mistake he pulled the power and cleared the CMOS. after 30min he got it to boot and it works at 1.3V locked to 3ghz.. sooo. is the core dead or do you think underclocking the memory could work?
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
sounds degraded to hell to me
@MrTommymxr
@MrTommymxr 7 жыл бұрын
rip... well then ill make myself a 150 euro keychain edit. he said we could send it to you.. if you wanna try some stuffff. idk..
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
Well I do want to do a video where I kill a CPU on purpose but I already have several AMD Sempron 145s that can be used to do that. Honestly 1.3V 3GHz is still usable for a secondary system it's just gonna burn an excessive amount of power.
@MrTommymxr
@MrTommymxr 7 жыл бұрын
Actually Hardcore Overclocking Well PM me if you want. its delidded aswell 😁
@Demon09-_-
@Demon09-_- 7 жыл бұрын
shoot 1.9v wonder if the Mobo actually pushed that much threw. but that's some degrading there 1.3v for 3ghz. currently running my 7700k at 5ghz with -1avx so 4.9 on avx stuff at 1.3v
@M4825
@M4825 7 жыл бұрын
Have you read this document? ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7112692/authors I realize it is talking about voltages mostly, but it is talking about overall reliability and shows just how much stronger the Skylake and Kaby 14nm nodes are than 22nm was.
@KypHeM
@KypHeM 7 жыл бұрын
it is safe to run at 1.5v it will just not last longer than the warranty.
@MsHallo98
@MsHallo98 7 жыл бұрын
is 1.7 volts at sandy bridge memory controller ok ?
@kn00tcn
@kn00tcn 7 жыл бұрын
everything has a standard... i thought intel's ddr3 is supposed to be 1.5 to 1.65, 1.7 sounds risky
@MarshallSambell
@MarshallSambell 4 жыл бұрын
Did you actually run your IMC at that voltage? What happened over 2 years
@totinospizzarolls4737
@totinospizzarolls4737 7 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a question. About a year and a half ago, I accidentally set my vcore to 1.92v instead of 1.29v on a i5 4690k and ASUS Z-97A. When I booted, it instantly BSOD and realized I fucked up. Two years later, I'm running the same overclock of 1.26v at 4.4GHz. Why didn't my i5 4690k fry itself???
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
You got really lucky. I ran 1.725V through a 3960X which is enough voltage to kill on LN2 but my chip made it. I once gave a A10 6800K over 1.5V NB on air and it was dead on the spot. So it really depends some CPUs will pop at even a hint of too much voltage and others will take it for a while before failing.
@totinospizzarolls4737
@totinospizzarolls4737 7 жыл бұрын
0_0 i did it on a 212 evo, I was really lucky
@jacobrutgersson4775
@jacobrutgersson4775 7 жыл бұрын
josh Subet Asus Z97-A also have "safe voltage" onboard switch. Maybe that saved your cpu
@totinospizzarolls4737
@totinospizzarolls4737 7 жыл бұрын
Rutger Yeah I've known about that, but I'm unsure on how much voltage it allows...
@Diglo1
@Diglo1 7 жыл бұрын
Your motherboard might have internal kill switch for going too much out of spec. Since it's haswell chip if you didn't apply more input voltage past that stock 1,8v your core voltage didn't even reach 1,92v instead it was under 1,8v since it can't be higher then input voltage.. So that more then likely saved your chip and caused the crash. You will experience vdroop even on system boot if your input voltage is not 0,5v higher then your core voltage and it's even more apparent at xtreme voltages also you probably had stock LLC so that reduces voltages on startup too and only applies on softwares like Prime95. Say the core voltage probably didn't go much beyond 1,7v which is still enough to kill the chip, but you had some luck.
@daniechichirita
@daniechichirita 7 жыл бұрын
voltage cpu amd 3820 msi 990fxa gaming ???
@drizzlefrizzler
@drizzlefrizzler 7 жыл бұрын
Not related to the video but I got my 6600k stable at 4.5ghz with only 1.225 vcore. From what I have read generally People need alot more then that to get them stable, have i missed something or is my chip a golden one?
@johndoe-gw6tj
@johndoe-gw6tj 7 жыл бұрын
no that 4.5ghz is easy on the 6xxx chips its when u go anything over. like 1.32v for 4.6ghz and then 1.41v for 4.7ghz goes up by SO MUCH after that standard 4.4 - 4.5ghz........try and bump it up and you'll see braa
@Kyros9119
@Kyros9119 7 жыл бұрын
1,225 for 4.5 is pretty good. 1.3-1.35V is the middle ground for 4.5 for most chips.
@johndoe-gw6tj
@johndoe-gw6tj 7 жыл бұрын
6600k at 4.7ghz w/4.4ghz cash at 1.405v and 16gb ddr4 3200mhz ; that is about the highest im comfy w/pushing it for volts and power draw / son bitch pulls almost 2x the rated 95watts
@drizzlefrizzler
@drizzlefrizzler 7 жыл бұрын
Just bumped my frequency to 4.6ghz and got it stable at 1.250v. I think i'm on to something! :D
@aprillomat
@aprillomat 7 жыл бұрын
yup, golden sample. i have a 6700K and i need at least 1.425 to get it stable at 4.55GHz. it's sort of the middle ground i think, maybe leaning to the less lucky end but oh well. on the other hand, i have rather high standards for stability testing, more than what most people consider necessary (ibt for 1h, 12h+ p95 small fft, and then a 5-10 minute test for each ibt and p95 large and small fft running concurrently with furmark).
@d2ricci
@d2ricci 7 жыл бұрын
Buildzoid, my old CPU is a x5690 on an old 1366 socket x58 board. Here is my spec sheet. www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/power-management/voltage-regulator-down-11-1-processor-power-delivery-guidelines.html It says ICCMAX is 145A and max peak vddc peaks at 1.6 for a very short time. I run stock vdroop with 1.49vid, is this safe on water given temps and vrms stay nominal? Thanks in advance buddy
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
I know nothing about LGA 1366. However I will point out that that the VR11.1 datasheet is a VRM spec not a CPU spec. 145A is how much current the VRM has to be able to deliver not what the CPU is supposed to survive. I suspect the 1.6V max peak rating is going to be related to transient load spikes and again is irrelevant for CPU survival.
@d2ricci
@d2ricci 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, Thanks for explaining and not making me feel like an ID10T
@Mirage_Unknown
@Mirage_Unknown 3 жыл бұрын
My 10875H idles at 1.52 VID stock...
@Karishin32
@Karishin32 7 жыл бұрын
My 2500k has been at 1.5 at over 4 years and still runs 5Ghz fine.
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking 7 жыл бұрын
and my 3960X didn't like 5GHz 1.53V after a year. Degradation rates are also subject to the silicon lottery.
@melangkoh4184
@melangkoh4184 7 жыл бұрын
sure on your asrock z77 Pro 3 i have zero problems believing you. People in the comment sections are popular for never making up stories and having a bad ass exciting life though.
@dieterlarrssen4745
@dieterlarrssen4745 7 жыл бұрын
your motherboard VRM shall outlast your cpu degrading? Are you insane? Obviously you never had a sub 100 dollar Asrock-Board. Wonder why 2nd hand 1155 Boards are literally dying out while i never saw a dead cpu. For each 1155 Board there are probably more than 2 chips on the used market now.
@vdochev
@vdochev 7 жыл бұрын
I think when he says that, he doesn't mean a cheap board. He's an extreme overclocker.
@CrackedDylMil
@CrackedDylMil 7 жыл бұрын
Dieter Larrssen my Z77 MPower outlived my 3570K. Running a 3770K now, I run it at 4.7GHz @ 1.24 V 24/7
@glenn1975
@glenn1975 7 жыл бұрын
Nice chip ^
@anastpm4580
@anastpm4580 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks ^_^
@kn00tcn
@kn00tcn 7 жыл бұрын
that's odd, all i see is people afraid to go near 1.4v, maybe cuz i dont look at reddit for hardware
@Christopher_42
@Christopher_42 3 жыл бұрын
I run 1372 4,4ghz and 1392 for 4,5 on an old xeon x5675 cpu for long term use no problems but if I go higher there will be probably.
@acidreighn
@acidreighn 6 жыл бұрын
I ran my sandy at 1.52 5ghz degraded fairly quickly.. 6 months or so beforei had to drop clock. It still runs to this day. (sold it a few months back) but max stable clock is 4.4ghz
@13massfreeman42
@13massfreeman42 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, let`s switch to default frequency 4GHz with 1.2 V ? =)
@pablo9364
@pablo9364 7 жыл бұрын
Every chips different. The lower the voltage the higher the probability of increasing the life of the chip.
@DevinDTV
@DevinDTV Жыл бұрын
so tldr 1.52v is safe. just don't exceed your CPU's max current. weird way to present the video. yeah if you crank up the p95 you'll hit those amperage limits.. but if you're trying to optimize for a particular game and have a good way to benchmark the game (e.g. custom map the simulates worst case scenario), you can find a safe level below max amperage.
@hojnikb
@hojnikb 7 жыл бұрын
Northwood pentium4 ran over 1.5V stock.
@kn00tcn
@kn00tcn 7 жыл бұрын
yes, everything used to use higher voltages, ddr1 used to be 2.5v or something? ddr2 was 1.8-2.2v, this video is or starts off talking about skylake
@SamFirthDesigner
@SamFirthDesigner 7 жыл бұрын
Early CPU's were 5v "All Intel 486-66 chips were traditional 5 volt parts, so were the (rare) early AMD ones. The later AMD versions and all of the IBM-Cyrix DX/2s ran at 3.3 volts. This reduced power consumption and therefore heat generation by 50%, but required a step-down voltage regulator on the motherboard; older boards did not have this, so the 5-volt parts were always in demand for upgrades and often very hard to get. Unlike the older, higher voltage parts, the 3.3 volt DX-66s were quite happy to run with just a heatsink or even without any cooling at all, where the 5 Volt ones were happier with a cooling fan." redhill.net.au/c/c-5.html
@SamFirthDesigner
@SamFirthDesigner 7 жыл бұрын
The larger gate size on early CPUs would have been more robust. I don't honestly know what the internal logic voltage was, though I bet it was higher than it is today.
@crimsun7186
@crimsun7186 7 жыл бұрын
Not robust, but larger. Larger gates allow more voltage without leaking issues.
@user-yy2bk2pg1l
@user-yy2bk2pg1l 5 жыл бұрын
3:20 lol
@khrisround2
@khrisround2 4 жыл бұрын
Somehow lol
@ImTheSlyDevil
@ImTheSlyDevil 7 жыл бұрын
Just let them put it at 1.52v and blow their shit up. =D
@victorcorpadea1340
@victorcorpadea1340 6 жыл бұрын
Lul, FX 9590 its set to 1.9 V by factory
@ArtisChronicles
@ArtisChronicles 6 жыл бұрын
that's some scary voltage
@jaaz77
@jaaz77 7 жыл бұрын
If you enroll in Intel's Performance Tuning Protection Plan they'll send you a new processor if you accidentally fry yours trying to overclock.
@KitKatFresse
@KitKatFresse 7 жыл бұрын
You'll get that anyways, Intel can't check if the CPU was killed by oc anyway...
@n1kobg
@n1kobg 7 жыл бұрын
1,52v is save if you not overclock and leave it 24/7. 1,52v is not imediate danger to the CPU. 1,52v is ok for 24/7 if you use the chip for 2 years and buy the Intel new one which they sell you every couple of years. That is what this data sheet means. I like you to put links to the data you show in the video. Its useful. BTW I used my 2500k on 5100mhz on 1,52v but it wasnt 24/7 but for workloeads and gaming for 3-4hours max.
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