For our use, the "double torque" trick using a tight inner spud tool AND the modified or "skinny" Vice-Grips cranked on as shown works a treat in removing old radiator valve spuds.
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@devrakitterman16764 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gordon: we can't believe you didn't release this info sooner.🙂
@elgordo2714 жыл бұрын
I can't give away all my tips all at once. I'm always learning new tricks myself all the time. Or at least remembering forgotten ones. These low production valve vids are shot when I have the time (and not on my customer's time), the dramatis personae tools are assembled, and I work up the courage not to sound like a complete fool.
@toddavis8603 Жыл бұрын
Every once in a while i do change a spud, and i will use your technique, so thankyou Gordon.
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@tomranallo4054 жыл бұрын
Great tips as always!!
@johnalvitre31542 жыл бұрын
I am in the process of restoring my system. Of course, these are the 100 year old ones, the spuds have small nipples that will shear easily so I will be moving to your two wrench technique. I appreciate this and see a warmer home soon. Thank You for sharing.
@gordonschweizer51542 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! This technique was shown to me years ago, so I claim no credit for it, just passing on knowledge. Best of luck and stay warm!
@oldhandyluke4 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence, I just salvaged 2 radiators in a neighbors house with a 2 pipe steam system today. unfortunately the guy who owned the house did not want to restore the system, but thankfully he did want to save the radiators for other people reuse instead of scrap them.
@elgordo2714 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you were able to rescue two radiators. Thank you! But I'm saddened by the news of a loss of yet another increasingly rare steam heating system, let alone a wonderful two-pipe version. It is part of the impetus that drives me to do these videos. Steam systems have few friends and legions of foes.
@oldhandyluke4 жыл бұрын
@@elgordo271 I told him that I would happily help him restore his system but he replied, that he had already began to remove the piping from the basement and the system had not ran in 14 years. To be honest I would just ship them to you since you might have some use for them, but I cannot even to begin to imagine how much that would cost to ship a several hundred pound rad across several hundred miles. I can only assume it would cost many times more than what the old rad is worth.
@elgordo2714 жыл бұрын
@@oldhandyluke Again, bless you for your thoughts and actions. But yeah, radiators are heavy and are little more than scrap unless pressure tested. Not worth the shipping, sad to say. Today, we did two pressure tests on radiators we hope to install for two customers after they are refinished by a local concern. BTY, can you tell me the name of the system? I might be interested in the radiator control valves if unique.
@oldhandyluke4 жыл бұрын
@@elgordo271 I didn't pull the valves but I will make sure to pull the valves with the next radiator that I save and any other valves still in place. I will send you a few pictures of the valves, as soon as I get one. If your are interested in the control valves are you wanting one for your collection or are you scrapping these to reuse the parts?
@elgordo2714 жыл бұрын
@@oldhandyluke If they are "name brand" valves, I can sometimes rebuild them to full operation. Case in point is my beloved Hoffman #7. I have a few videos on that one. I'll take any and all of that type. I'm a bit "touched in the head" for that one. Other valves are less rebuild-able. Most Warren-Websters come to mind. Dunhams, Tranes, etc. too. Some types would be destined simply for my Steam Petting Zoo. Other valve types are "bog standard" and are scrap-able with nary a tear. Send pics when you can. Thanks!
@robertkelly40833 жыл бұрын
Great tip with the ground down vice grip. I’ll give that a shot when changing valves and traps. I have been using the individual internal pipe wrench set made by general tools with great success lately. It takes a socket, breaker bar with a pipe lever to work but I haven’t broken a spud (yet). Also flip that rad over so you don’t have to hold back with your foot.
@gordonschweizer51543 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply! As to flipping that rad over for better leverage, you bet I would in a normal situation, but I try to keep these videos short....😀
@markhaith4720 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful thankyou
@rkwjunior22985 ай бұрын
I recommend heating up the joint with a turbo torch or the handheld. Heat has saved my ass many times
@gordonschweizer51545 ай бұрын
Dr Heat is indeed a valuable ally! But sometimes, on a nicely refinished radiator, or a confined area, or too near combustabes, not so much.
@bauhnguefyische6673 жыл бұрын
Wanna buy a bucket fulla broken or twisted spud wrenches? I see what you did here, you doubled your torque by having two grip points. We do that now too. The thin teeth grips on that blue handle, Channel Lock crescent are awesome, I’ve been using the same wrench for probably 15years.
@gordonschweizer51543 жыл бұрын
LOLl on the broken spud wrenches bucket! The good part is I can grind and cut on them to my heart's content guilt free! The double torque idea was not mine. It was shown to me some years ago. I don't think I would have thought of it on my own. Do you modify your Channel Locks to fit in that tight space?
@loueber Жыл бұрын
Curios to know if your shorter forged spud wenches would have been able to remove the first fitting without the use of the vice grips
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
It's hit or miss. The tighter the fit, the better. However, there is so much variation within the same nominal size valve spud, any tool that fits all sizes will be too small most of the time and rip those lugs out for sure, making a four minute job a 40 minute job.
@scottk06233 жыл бұрын
Nice tip on the Vice Grips, I unfortunately am a guy that’s “good” at cutting them out.
@gordonschweizer51543 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and your comment. No opprobrium is meant or implied to those who cut them out! It's probably faster/more effiencent for you, especially if you know you are not going to reuse it.
@scottk06233 жыл бұрын
@@gordonschweizer5154 lol no offense taken. No matter which way , it still takes time. Most other companies up here won’t touch anything to do with steam.it’s like voodoo to them. That’s fine with me.
@hijodelaisla2753 жыл бұрын
So, the spud wrench is your favorite tool?
@gordonschweizer51543 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the multi-sized spud wrench? If so, then no, it is not my favorite tool.
@hijodelaisla2753 жыл бұрын
@@gordonschweizer5154 It was my attempt at humor (apparently unsuccessful) offered because you made it abundantly clear that you don't like that tool.
@gordonschweizer51543 жыл бұрын
@@hijodelaisla275 That's quite alright. I was a bit on edge because I had to mute some trolls and bots the other day.
@saltypipefitter46182 жыл бұрын
Easy money
@craigforster98613 жыл бұрын
I use proper easy out or drill out and chase with pipe tap. drill is fast
@gordonschweizer51543 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insights. Please post a link to your videos outlining your procedures.
@loueber Жыл бұрын
Basically, someone who can make a strong forged steel spud wrench will make a million dollars. All these cast iron spuds are junk.
@gordonschweizer5154 Жыл бұрын
Agree about the cast iron spuds. I do cut them up and grind them and use pieces of them as needed. I also have local machine shops make up custom spuds (esp the 1/2" sizes) as they must be made of better steel or they will break.