And this is exactly why I never jump in these hair trends! Do what works for your hair! 😊

I was doing no oils/butters back in the 90s before it was even a thing. I did it for about 10 years simply because I didn’t like the way oils felt in my hair. My hair was so dry and split all of the time and I too was seeing my stylist every 3 months. Now I fully understand that oils and butters actually protect the hair from environmental and mechanical damage. Oils and butters are also full of fats and vitamins. I started using Ayurveda techniques along with regular oiling and conditioning. My hair is so thick and dense now that I cannot feel my scalp! And my hair is now tailbone length. I learned how to use oils and butters to reap their benefits and get them to work for me not against me and now I’m looking forward to thigh length hair. ❤ I wish everyone well on their journey and that they find the method that works best for them. 🙏🏾💖

Did it for like a year and the splits kept traveling up the shaft each time I got a trim. Finally cut it into a bob and the splits started traveling up again. Now I use silicones, oils, and butters and my hair is healthy

If you are a business owner, and some of your most loyal clients point out issues with products bought from you, you owe it to them to pay attention to or address the complaints. That the response is to ignore or ridicule is a red flag.

I tried this method for a little over a year to a T: no oils, no butters, all the Innersense products, did the detox/cut with a stylist, no deep conditioner, no water remisting all that and at first I thought my hair was doing well then I started to notice how dry my scalp was becoming and Id never had an issue with flaky scalp before. Then my hair started becoming really dry and breaking, more than I an used to. My sets also never really lasted. I gradually started incorporating products back in and eventually abandoned their method and my hair has gradually improved. The only thing I take from it is I overall use less product in my hair than I used to. I think the overall problem with them and their method is how they promoted it. They positioned themselves as BW who care about natural hair health and they never advertised themselves as starting a trend or a new method. They always explicitly stated it wasn’t a trend or new method and that it was the actual, correct way to take care of our hair that we’d never been taught. And they backed this up with alleged science and that they were all licensed stylists so they know abd have studied. So they got people like me interested who aren’t into fads or trends but are into healthy hair so I was open to what they were saying as if it was a fact and science based. In reality, they are only focused on definition and creating a specific style. If they had advertised themselves as this I wouldn’t have had a problem but they shouldn’t have misled and advertised themselves as the truth bc enough ppl are having issues for it not to be the truth. And like you said, they are too silent when 2 years ago, they were condescending, rude, and gaslighting all up and down our TLs. And guilting/manipulating us into this method. When our hair wasn’t coming out right or lasting theyd just say it was our technique and blaming it on us.. I should’ve know when they all were using the same Innsersense products.. there must be some kind of deal behind that…..

I tried the no oils/butters method for 6 months and followed it to a T. I bought all the clean innersense/uncle funky products. I used a hand held drier on medium cool heat so I wouldn’t damage my hair. And OMG the damage I experienced was unreal 😢😢😢😢90% of the hair on my head had split ends that ran all the way up 3/4 of my hair strands. I had to big chop it all off 😢Ive since moved back to using Shea moisture products, regular protein treatments and pre-pooing and sealing with coconut oil. My hair never felt better and is thriving. I cant stand how bully like the stylists on Tiktok were about how oil’s damage out hair, Shea moisture is bad blah blahz DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU! POC have been using oils/butters in our hair for thousands of years and water can still penetrate with oil in our hair, it’s molecular weight is tiny

Healthy hair is hydrophobic.. aka “water proof” Using the right oils on our strands gives us shine & helps detangle EASILY. Detangling on dry hair with hemp seed oil has changed the GAME & at this point, breakage where? OILS ARE STAYING.

Hey Jenn, thank you for doing this video! 💖 Just to clarify, I think the lack of deep conditioners and/or leave-ins has definitely contributed to the issues I’m currently experiencing. The heat from the hooded dryer could have amplified the issues because I’ve been told my hair is now extremely dehydrated as a result. Mind you, I’ve been following this method for over a year and cleansing, conditioning and styling my hair 1 to 2 times per week. I also, believe the curly cuts have played a huge role as well. After a year of routine curly cuts I had my hair blown out and assessed. My ends were/are split terribly!!! Not only is it the ends of my hair but now it’s traveled up the hair strand due to them not being fully and properly addressed plus the dehydration from no DC & LI’s. It’s caused what is known as “webbing.” Webbing is a lack of moisture and doesn’t allow the cuticle to lay flat. So the strands begin to stick to each other. Similar to a spider web. This happens in the form of splits up the hair strand. 😑 My goal in speaking out about my experiences is to bring about awareness of what could happen. We know not all experiences are the same but this clearly is not an isolated incident. We need answers! 💯 Thank again and you are greatly appreciated! ~Shelly💖

I feel like one of the main problems with the natural hair community is that we forget the fact that one method WILL NOT work for everyone. Curly cuts may work better for looser curl patterns because its easier to see the damage, while kinky hair is a bit trickier. Even with the heat, it might work fine for some and be damaging for others. And lastly the oils and butter thing might work for some and be damaging for others. I know for a fact that cutting out the raw oils and butters has been a game changer for me. Also my hair hates heat. And washing my hair once per week has made my hair flurish. Recently i put some moisturizer on my hair and for the first time ever my hair actually popped out its natural curls. I'm still in shock, I never thought my hair could actually look like that. HAIR IS AMAZING!! Find what works for u❤❤

I'm just going to say this. It seems like everyone who uses a modified no oils no Butters method. Which is to say they use leave in, deep condition occasionally, and sometimes use oils are doing okay. The people who follow the method to a T seem to be having the most problems. Especially if their hair is longer. How about a moderate use of conditioners and oils as your hair needs it?

Yeah I tried this last year. Pros: it helped me appreciate my natural hair more, it helped reduce the burden of natural hair, I learned techniques that made wash day and styling better, realized butters are too heavy for my hair, now have some good natural gels that’s suit my hair better than butters (they used to sit on my hair). Cons: my hair was dry, more single stand knots and split ends. I now use techniques I learned trying this method with oils that had previously worked for me and I feel like I’ve found the perfect hybrid. My hair is recovering from that trial period, I feel really good about my hair, and it’s thriving. Healthier, sheenier, retaining length, easier to manage, happier to have

I still don’t use oil and butters but I had to give up the curly cuts, and sitting under the dryer without a leave-in. I’ve also re-incorporated regular deep conditioning into my routine. Here’s my experience: I got almost 1 year’s worth of curly cuts and during this time, I followed the BGC methodology to the “T,” was a member of SSC, etc. My WNG’s looked amazing! My hair routine was short and simple! HOWEVER, almost immediately following each curly cut, I began to experienced webbing/ Velcro ends, which progressively worsened over time. I thought this was odd because I always “cut what needed to go away.” This happened with TWO separate CIK stylists so I don’t think it’s related to the individual’s technique. In fact, the webbing was once so bad that I had to go back the next week to get even more hair cut off because my hair was so unmanageable. This also meant that I wasn’t retaining as much length. Mind you, I never had an issue with webbing prior to getting curly cuts. My hair also begin to behave dryly over time - my crown took on a different texture, and experienced breakage, which I attribute to the disproportionate amt of heat it was exposed to (without a leave in!) under the hooded dryer each week. But my curls LOOKED amazing, which made the situation all the more confusing. Luckily my incredibly talented CIK stylist was able to pivot to blow-out cuts vs die on the curly cut hill or gaslight me. The webbing instantly went away, I retain so much more length and my hair is behaving less dryly tho I stil do feel like I’m coming out of a chronic dehydration situation. Between the curly cuts, lack of leave-ins , deep conditioner and weekly sitting under the dryer with a head full of gel (or worse, foam), something in that BGC methodology is off. I think there’s also something to the damage associated w/ using humectant products in dry / less humid environments that isn’t accounted for. I don’t know… I’m so perplexed by this all and trying to piece together a new routine that merges the best of their teachings with what seems to be working for my hair now. I’m grateful for the fresh perspective that A&A brought to that space but also really disappointed by what seems to be an overall lack of willingness to truly publicly explore this topic beyond throwing shade or being defensive. Even a simple “we hear and see what you’re going through and are looking into this” would have been more than sufficient for now. We can’t ALL be getting this wrong, and our experiences are valid.

Water by itself is not the strongest way to combat dryness or to retain adequate moisture levels as it has the ability to evaporate quickly; hence why you need to follow it up with something to lock it in properly. Some people forget that humectants can work in reverse depending on the temperature conditions. Also, texture has a lot to do with it; not every texture can cope with every hair technique/system. Not everything is for every strand! If it works for you great, if you need to adapt said technique for it to work, do it and if all else fails, then stick to what help your hair before. Your hair grows from your head, not your stylist’s! Just some immediate thoughts, not an attack🙏🏾

Gel is a STYLING product and oil and butter are for hair maintenance and CARE. It's like using heat serum or setting spray to keep our hair healthy. Leave-ins with high amounts of oil or raw oils are used to preserve the strands health.

I think you don’t have damage because you regularly cut your hair short.

MY 2 cents: One thing “I” believe to be certain, if you maintain your hair with the same products consistently it flourishes. Changing up the routine (using different products all the time) MAY change the condition of your hair.

Hey Jenn 👋 I've been natural for 13 years. I have big chopped 3 times due to heat damage and postpartum. When I learned over a year ago about no oils and butters and started applying their methods to my routine it was a game changer for me. Beforehand my hair was constantly dry, brittle and no luster to it whatsoever. Hell, my hair was even a different tone because of how dry it was despite me washing once a week or two. Now my hair looks and feels healthy. It takes in moisture, my curls pop and everything thanks to removing oils from my routine. I do however follow my intuition and have always deep conditioned, here recently before my was day I'll sometimes apply oil before washing and my favorite leave in is the Giovanni direct leave in. Once I get my leave in in I put a plastic cap on to sit under the dryer for 10 mins then I'll apply my gel via uncle funkies, Xtreme wetline or even big poppa. I've had only one trim this year but fortunately have had no issues. I'm thankful for still using leave ins and deep conditioning and in moderation using light oils before washing. But overall my hair has changed for the better. Keep doing you booh. I love your content!! Peace✌️

I love this conversation. Everyone’s comments really does add a layer of nuanced discourse that feels so progressive. Something I feel the natural hair community hasn’t had in years.

I love how early I've been to your recent uploads 😍💃🏽 I so enjoy your transparency and honesty on your hair journey ❤ thank you for another great video Jenn!

Thank you Jenn! I really appreciate that you tried this and you are doing such a thorough review!

I love this video😂😂. It's all the back and forth. LOVE IT💙

Loved this video! Loved the creative style, the casual conversation vibe but also the information. I’m still an oils and butters girly but this topic is very interesting to me and I’m so happy to follow the investigation 😂

Thanks for the fun video and the links. Definitely going to check!😊💕

This video is on point. I have been doing this method for a year now. My hair is doing well and growing. My stylist is Aveda trained and says my ends are fine. I was a little worried after Rosie & Shelley talked about their ends. Like you I have been checking my ends but it appears to be ok, tfs.

Detective Jenn, I can't wait for the next update❤ this video was Hella fun to watch, not the girl in the yellow struggling 😅

I’m hearing about this now. But girl you’re so beautiful 😍😮literally. Your face is glowing and beautiful. I love this video sis, it’s soo infrotmative, your thoughts are on the right path 💯YEAAAH

Thank You for sharing your perspective I enjoyed it! 11:58 Is a good point consistency is key and not all products are created equal! or work well with this method. This Part! 17:35

i started the no oils no butters the same time as you. Except i never used hooded dryers/stretching or drying heat, or went to stylist and trimmed myself on routine. I started my loc journey today after having odd hair troubles in the past year: excessive dryness, ends splitting faster, and my hair being more susceptible to heat damage (after getting my hair styled ONCE with medium heat), and breakage. have high porosity hair, deep conditioned regularly and did protein and bond treatments. My hair became so damaged over time. I loved how my hair felt when moisturized but the damage def caught up to me, as i style once a week.

This is very interesting with no oil and no butter. I believe if you find a method that works for you and your hair do it. If an old method works for you and your hair is thriving keep working that works for you. Sometimes new things work and sometimes it doesn't. Good video, Jenn!

I put the blame on that hooded dryer and the ends not being sufficiently snipped. I don’t get lots of split ends but I also never sit under that damn dryer because I hate it. It may have been the only thing that saved me. I think we need to stop with the absolutes. Take what you need and leave what you don’t. I took that washing my hair more frequently and using botanical gels and curly cuts twice a year. I kept my deep conditioning 2x a month, blown out trims twice a year (for four haircuts a year total).

Thank you for making this video! Very neutral and highlighted with great facts.❤I haven’t done the 30 day detox, but went through a very similar ‘detox’ when I did the Maximum Hydration Method in 2015. I think what most “methods” are lacking is the ability to adjust or modify things to individuals. To many people the issues come when they get the feeling they follow everything by heart, methods are too strict and people claim they do things wrong. This all reminds me of the CGM, where until today it’s claimed you need to wash your hair with conditioners only and leave it inside, though the book says sulfate free cleansers are also ok and the actual curls are maintained with gels to form a gel cast. But I can understand the confusion especially when the Deva Cut founder mostly talked about how bad sulfate shampoos are. I’ve been cutting my own hair in the wash&go state for 1.5 years (along straight cuts) & can definitely say it’s a challenge to see splits in my texture, when it’s covered & smoothed down by styling product casts. Many curls are noodle & needle size & if you’re not very experienced, I can imagine not enough damaged hair is being cut off. On the other hand, the shrinkage is very challenging since a tiny cut could already mean I lost 1-2 inches/ 2-5 cm in the stretched state. It’s very unfortunate not many professionals are addressing these challenges & issues. It’s not just about uneven ends when the hair is straight. I also think we should all realise that we can’t compare professional salon made hooded dryers to what we use at home. My hair in the top dries faster and gets hotter than the rest of my hair when I use my hooded dryer. I’m observing the texture is a getting a bit more rougher after all these months of using it. For a few months I pull the hooded dryer more far away so that my head doesn’t directly sit under the hood. Takes a bit longer to dry, but since hair scientists say that heat damage is best prevented when the blow dryer is used about 15 cm away from the hair in a continuous motion when you dry it, I feel more safe & experience a smoother new growth texture.

So that is a very good question and I myself stopped shampooing my hair instead I do hair rinses and I’m in love with my hair , my hair is so much better now and healthier but and I don’t use no products but I do still use oils when I feel necessary

Hey, Jen. Nice coverage of this topic. So I’ve assumed that I fit into the curly cut category because I get my ends trimmed wet, but you described two different methods. The way you said your stylist cut the back of your hair is the way I’ve had my ends trimmed since 2018. I’ve never had my hair cut curl by curl in a dry state. Maybe that matters. I have been following the 30 day detox since Jan 2021 and like you I’ve enjoyed the routine and how my hair has responded. I’ve only sporadically used deep conditioner and I’ve only used a leave-in conditioner when doing twist outs and buns, never wash and gos. There’s so much nuance to hair care and I believe that with all recommendations I’ve seen in this space, since going natural 13 years ago, there have been pros and cons that curlies have described. I agree that just because I haven’t experienced issues with this method of hair care, doesn’t mean others aren’t. Considering growth phases of hair, those that have been doing this method for awhile without issue, are probably ok. When I had my hair blown out last year, it was the fullest, bounciest, and had more sheen then I’ve seen in awhile. That was a year in to this type of hair care and I’ve maintained my hair between armpit and mid-back length throughout this process. There just might not be a one size fits all issue that people are experiencing. There might be different issues ranging from cutting technique to styling. I do hope those having issues, find resolution soon.

I really loved this video! "Let's investigate" and then you put your glasses on 🤣🤣🤣 I did the bootleg version of the no oils no butters on colored fine strands for a while, so obviously it did not really work for me lol. Since it was not the real deal, I can't really comment on the method but I can tell you that the bootleg version can cause dryness, single strand knots and split ends on colored fine strands 🤣🤣🤣 I'm not very much into make up and nails but yours look really nice in the video.

I'm definitely one of the people who started the BGC method of caring for my hair because of you and LaToya Ebony. I never got a curly cut though and I periodically deep conditioned and used leave-in sporadically. I don't *think* that I have a lot of split ends but I definitely need a haircut. I am having issues with my hair, but I don't think it's so much the haircare practices as it is my health issues and alopecia. However, I have switched from most of the BGC recommended products (I still use UFD Curly Magic) to Giovanni and The Doux because of price and availability. I also don't use high heat to dry my hair (the top of my scalp can't take it). I love that you are addressing the problems that some people are experiencing even though it isn't the case for you personally simply because you realize that some of us heard about the method from you first. ❤

This was an interesting video, thanks Jenn! Personally, over half a decade of following the natural hair movement has taught me that fads are real, and everyone has an opinion. I don’t personally follow any absolutes because it doesn’t work for me. I did the no oil no butters before it was a dogma, and still do… except when my hair needs oils and butters!! A little bit of oil added to my leave in or DC can really keep my hair moisturizer for weeks. Canadian weather doesn’t give a damn about what some stylist says. You have to listen to your hair and be flexible. I always deep condition and also use leave ins, but never under gels. And it works for me, so that’s all I care about. I agree with you that you have to borrow from many sources and make your own hair care regimen. No two heads are the same, and the same head in different geographic areas needs different care! Stylist should know that and adjust instead of being condescending for no damn reason.

I've been doing the no oils and no butter for a year now. I also only trim at the salon when my hair is blow dried. I do shampoo, conditioner and leave in...and I style with either mousse or grease. I also moisturize with water and leave in conditioner in the middle of the week to refresh my strands. No issues with dryness or split ends that I'm aware of.

I don't understand how cutting your hair when kinky is bad... men do it all the time and their hair still grows healthy. But cutting your hair when kinky is only for people who never straighten their hair

As someone who hasn't been in the natural hair streets for a while, this is WILD. I may have to come back for this lol Thanks for sharing your opinion boo! Hope baby girl is being nice to you lol

My blk derm with natural hair told me to wash my hair every 7-10 days so you should be good with once a week. I pay very close attention to my hair now that I have permanent dye. I have to say washing my hair 1x/wk has made wash day so much easier. Love your videos.

🥰💙.. always luv your videos / conversations.. thank you Jenn J 💙

👋🏾🤔? I’m old school. I big chopped over 20 years ago. I’m natural and get a trim every 3 mo.I take hair and nail vitamins. My hair is healthy. I’m a senior and slowly graying around the edges. I might try this method just to see what all the hoopla is about. Thanks for the research. You’ve been so busy.

It took one curly cut for me to know it wasn’t for me lol too many textures and lengths in my head which lead to wild tangles and anything other than a wash and go looking a little off. Now my stylist gets me right with a blow out and trim every 4 months 👌🏽 I did no oils and butters, simply wash, condition and style with UFD for about a year. It worked super well for me growing out from a bald head until I moved past my TWA. With more length came less moisture retention, adding more water/UFD mid week which lead to flaking, lots of extra manipulation and eventually excessive shedding and breakage. I learned a lot about my hair in that year and today after much tweaking I’m attached to my routine of wash, condition, leave in, a little bit of grease, style in twists and air dry. Start to finish wash day is 2 hours, and I’m thriving at a full, healthy 7 1/2 inches throughout at a year and 8 months natural. Observe, test, adjust, repeat. It’s so easy when you find what works for you. I wish that for everyone ❤️

I appreciate this video. I personally follow what my stylist says and listen to what my hair is telling me over what I’m told by bgc but I recognize things i do still do align with bgc and their method. For me personally, I’m still doing this method of washing conditioning and styling primarily with gel, unless I feel I want to switch things up. I’m still getting curly cuts, and still feel like all have been great for my hair, but that doesn’t mean that people’s experiences haven’t been valid. I do believe that the concerns are valid and there is something going on. Maybe it’s due to the stylist we choose to see or maybe it could be something we’re doing at home. 🤷🏿‍♀️ Certain parts of the messaging has gotten mixed up and Im hearing people say bgc said not to do things that from my experience, i never heard them say not to do. However, for those who did actually follow this method and are seeing adverse results I do believe that an investigation and a proper response is needed.

What a great video!😊

I tried the no oils and no butters for a few months and my hair was moisturized. The tangling was unmatched tho. The hours it took to detangle my hair was not OK! I’ve been back to oils and butters! I learned a lot from Naturally High her oils&butters crash course online! I now know how to use the right oils and butters for my hair!

Good informative. Thanks

I gave up oils and butters about 1.5 years ago. I returned to deep conditioning monthly and using a leave in after every wash about 2 months ago..I cleanse condition and style every 5 days..so far I'm good with this..

I think It's the moisture. Now that I pay more attention to my moisture cycle, my hair is much healthier, and it doesn't require as many trims.

An influencer I follow posted this week a video of her curly cut, and a lot of people in the comments were telling her that curly cuts are great for shape but not for split ends. So the best way to go would be to alternate both for good shape + ends. So maybe, exclusively doing curly cuts could be a reason? My hair has gotten drier this year and a lot more frizzy and I've been dealing with split ends but honestly I've been dealing with them for years now (though it got worse this year). It's to a point where I'm considering not wearing my hair out anymore for a year to see if it will help.Anyway in my case, I can't say for sure that it's because of using less butters. But my hair is a lot smoother when using creams and products with a little oil and they help with having less friction and knots in my opinion. I think the BCG method should've just been about properly washing hair, and not about specific ingredients to style with. It really doesn't matter as long as you're washing regularly, like a lot of benefits people are attributing to "not using butters" are consequences of properly washing hair.

Great video!

Love the style of this video.

Hey Jenn. I love your lipstick! Please let me know what you used. I follow the methods except I always use leave ins and you deep conditioner from time to time ( although I never leave it in more than 30 minutes). I don't think my hair is damaged, but now I need to go look at it with a magnifying glass.

Enjoyed the video and also your passion and energy discussing this topic. ❤ I use conditioners and oils. I have been seeing significantly less splits ends since moisturizing more frequently using diy water spritzes. I dust/ trim as needed .Im a protective style wearer. Wash about every 3 weeks, mostly air dry, haven't used a blow dryer in years ( altho considering it b4 my next protective install) always wear satin coverings in the house/ bed. Haven't been to a stylist in years.( Still triggered)❤

I love this method, the wash,condition, style has simplified my life. My style of choice is a chunky flat twist twist out with a foam and spray leave in conditioner. I never received a curly cut because i just love a blow out for my trims, because i love blunt ends and My hair has been doing GREAT.

I sometimes use gel as well to moisturise my hair the curl activator type not the normal styling gel like Eco styler as it is very drying.

Great video! I've been natural for 14 years and also big chopped 3 times due to having 5 babies and also bleach damage. Now, since finally giving my body a 7yr break from constantly being pregnant, my hair is thriving better than it ever has since adulthood! I stopped using shea butter so much because back then, I thought that it was the holy grail of everything and I made my own and overused it on my hair. That caused me so much breakage that I wasn't aware of. Now, I still use oils, but not butters. The oils have helped me get back to waist length after 5 years of my last big chop with my hair being WAY thicker than it has ever been in my whole adulthood. I'm happy! My hair is still bleached, long, and thick. The shea butter was too much and I don't believe I will be going back.

First of all, thank you! I've been doing the no raw oils and butters since 2021 and I truly enjoy your content. I am loving it and my hair curls changed for the better. But all this talk from Shelley and Rosie got me scared so I went and got my hair blown out and assessed last month. Please note I hadn't had a cut in 6 mons. My hair was good. Needed a trim of 1/2 inch. My hair is growing. I use the dryer weekly every 6-10 days. No leave ins, no raw oils no raw butters or products that have it in the first 5 ingredients. But I just say I just recently bought a deep conditioner because the stylist suggested it monthly. I got Briogeo Don't Despair Repair two weeks ago. Tried it once with heat and I'll add it in monthly. My hair is not unicorn hair so I can't do everything to it without damage. But this method works for me. Lastly, in my area non curly cuts just regular wash, condition blowout cuts/trims cost $150-225. 😢

I’ve been hearing this for years. I remember being in high school and finding a small KZfaqr telling us not to use oils on our hair. I didn’t believe them and I scoffed at it. I’ve been no oils/butters since 2020. I will say that it has made my wash “day” much better. However, I do agree with some of you. I think I NEED to deep condition. My hair dries out a lot. I do curly cuts for shaping but I also do silk presses and that’s when I get my hair trimmed. I started using leave-ins this year because I prefer how my hair looks when I use a leave-in with my gel 🤷‍♀️.

I'm having the texture change too and also think it's from the hooded dryer. Im going to start diffusing instead and see if that helps. Im going incorporate a weekly deep conditioner too. Hopefully my hair recovers soon. I was never convinced that curly cuts gets all the ends so I've continued to get cuts on blown out hair and then shape when curly if needed so I've never had the webbing issue.

I get my ends clip blown out. I just recently started wearing W&G. Had a hard time when I became a loose natural and was wearing wigs regularly. There is a lot I’m stilling learning. I shampoo, condition, leave in, and gel. What I did learn if you are going to use some of the no no products, it’s best to clarify your hair from time to time.

I will say that when I switched stylists she had the hooded dryer much higher above my head than I do. I’ve since changed the height of my hooded dryer as well so it sits further away from the top of my head and it dries faster ironically. I haven’t experienced any damage thankfully, but I’m with you that just want to understand the true issue.

I never really did use oils and butters and I do air dry. I went for a blowout and trim from a professional but her method was to try ripping a brush through my hair while blow drying and that didn't work. So she gave up and just started cutting. So I can't really tell how bad my split ends were. My hair is less tangled now but it is also much shorter and pretty uneven. I still use deep conditioners because I like them, but I will do a WNG afterwards with just mousse. My texture seems to be the same but again, no heat. It's nice that wash day doesn't have to last all day anymore! And I missed something - when did you get merch? It's really cute 🤩

I gave up on the idea of using gel instead of oils very quickly. It dried my hair out so immediately that it took just a few months to give it up. I can see how there could be a lot of variety in what works best for different women, with some thriving on botanical gels and others on castor oil, grease, deep conditioners, leave-in conditioners, etc. I'm definitely in the latter camp, so long as I use at least a little heat to open the cuticle so that when I moisturize the water really gets into the hair shaft. The gels seem to leach moisture out of every hair shaft, even on a humid day.

I love this video! I've been experimenting with my hair because I noticed the dryness with the no oils and butters (I actually started it accidently and didn't know it was a thing) I just saw it as me not washing my hair often enough and getting the actual moisture (water) into my strands BTW you didn't link your video on your salon visit and the no oils & butters playlist in the description

I do curly cuts but never followed the no butters or oil method. I always used a leave-in

I dont use oils and butters but I also do not do wash and go's. I shampoo, condition, add leave-in then blow dry and cornrow or do a twist out and sit under a hooded dryer. I go to a professional to get a trim every 8 weeks if needed. She blows it dry almost to silk press straight and trims it and my hair is flourishing. I don't have the answer for everyone but that is what is working for me.

As someone who has been doing this method for over 2 years here's some things I am tweaking: Cleanse: Trying not to overcleanse whether that be not using all-purpose cleansers meant to be used every 7 to 10 days twice a week as I wash every 3 to 4 days because of normal scalp build up and an active lifestyle. I need to lean more on my moisturizing shampoo and perhaps even a cleansing conditioner like Curl Junkie Daily Fix. I think overcleansing in my experience can leave my hair too squeaky and in need of deep conditioning. Condition: I haven't needed to deep condition in these two years and I think that largely has to do with using well-formulated conditioners. But if I overcleanse then I will need to deep condition because my hair cuticles will be too raised and will make styling harder to do in terms of smoothing and or defining my curls. Style: I haven't had issues with the hooded drier. I also alternated using a diffuser as well either to set entirely or after sitting under the hooded drier for 15 to 20 minutes and finishing the roots with a diffuser. Extra: I tried leave-ins here and there but I felt they all just made my hair not set properly or be frizzier and less defined and I didn't like my styling outcome with them in the mix except occasionally and a very small amount when doing a twist-out. Also I found after my second curly cut that I need blown-out cuts in-between my curly cuts and I was able to talk with my specific cut it kinky stylist and they were cool with me seeing them twice a year (every 6 months) and my ends have been fine. I did it because I also noticed the ends weren't great after a month, horrible after 2 months and hanging on after 3. If my ends are cut properly I should be able to go at most 4 months without needing another trim but to be on the safe side I cut every 3 months so 4 times a year me twice and then him twice and if we both do our jobs right there isn't much to cut.

I watched that Diva cuts video last year. And it really cautioned me to search more for the cuts. I had to go for dry bc that's what's available. The wet cut soooo much of my hair. 😢

I am doing my own version. Never put the leave ins down. I don’t buy and hardly use any DC unless they are gifted. I left the WnG alone real quick because it just doesn’t suit my lifestyle and what I want to achieve with my hair. I think that constantly manipulating your hair and all that recking to get your curls to be defined plays a role too. Everybody was in a frenzy to get their hair washed and styled under 2 hours therefore you’re not as gentle to stick to the timeline. And that can also be another reason their hair is jacked up in my opinion. We tend to forget not all hair is made equal. Meaning some hair can take all the abuse and be fine while some will break within 3 months. However when it comes to products recommendation and what and when to use them ,it’s a 10 for me ( at least for the stylist I went to😆). The amount of money I saved in the past two years has been real ngl.😄

I’ve been following the BGC method and getting curly cuts since May 2022. My hair is 10x more hydrated. I can go 7-14 days between washes and still maintain definition and hydration in my hair. To the point about uneven hair when blown out; it’s to be expected. Curly cuts and stretched cuts are going to produce different results. Personally, when I wear my hair stretched it maintains the shape and is even. My stylist is one of the few fully CIK certified stylists: Unity Salon & Spa. She cuts each curl individually to get the stringy and split ends, and also cuts in sections like you’d see done on a stretched cut. To the point on dryness; it’s definitely super hard to understand and achieve the right ratio of water to product. Working with a stylist who will show and allow you to feel how your hair should behave when the product:water ratio is right is key.

So here’s the thing. When them ladies told me no more leave in and add gel I said miss me with that. I gave up oils and butters and the only products I use are shampoo, conditioner, leave in, and MAYBE a mask once every four months. My hair is gorgeous, BUT☝️I have low porosity hair. I wouldn’t use this method if you have medium-high porosity.

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@JennJackson Hey girl! Love to see how open & neutral you are on this topic. Sad that so many are facing these issues when all anyone wanted was an easier routine. My routine was a little similar, but never followed this method. I wash, deep condition and style my hair weekly. Using a leave in & custard for every wash. I sometimes use silicone based stylers for humidity, whenever I fancy. My routine has been the same for almost 15 years. I never receive spilt ends or single stranded knots. I believe my hair is hydrated from weekly washing (water) and moisturized from my leave in & stylers. (An understanding learnt from @AfrikanHairGod 💕). The silicones I have been using off and on for a few years and my hair has never been dry, parched, or dehydrated. (I check in with my stylist regularly who has the same philosophy and method as @AfrikanHairGod)

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I've been following this method for over 2 years. I've experimented with the wrong products a couple of times. I slowed my roll and got back on track. I'm still not using "raw oils and butters" on my strands. I have also tweaked a few things, but I still stick to my routine wash routine. I also reintroduced creams and my favorite leave ins. I personally prefer to have my hair trimmed on blown out hair. I agree with AHG just from my experience.

i continued to do blown out cuts and gets trims because thats what was suggested to me by stylists especially if i continued to do stretched styles and roller sets. so i cant speak on the curly cutting. i only use a leave in maybe twice a year to detangle before my appointments. and i still used deep conditioners monthly because they were in ny stash and i wanted to use them up. i think the method worked fine for me, but i also didnt interpret the instructions as absolutes either so maybe that's the difference

Wow! We have a lot going on. It's a bit much, so I just do what works for me.

I stopped getting curly cuts and all my webbing and other problems stopped. I also use a deep conditioner with protein because I have fine hair.

Very interesting video. Unintentionally, I havent been using butters on my hair. I usually make my own shea butter mix- I ran out of my supplies and havent been able to restock. I've been experimenting with leave-ins and moisturizers and I have been experiencing dryness in spite of using them. So, I decided to try clarifying and starting to increase the moisture in the wash day and to the styling part. But, I think I'm going to get back the butters and experiment again. I actually believe that my hair prefers the butters and I never experienced any issues using them. I just ran out 😂 But, I always say that different methods work for different people. So, if no oils and butters work for one person leave them be. ❤

I’ve been natural for ten years. I’m 24 years old, and I’ve been through it with my hair. I started my journey right at the peak of KZfaq University™️ and I struggled with finding a routine that was right for ME. On top of having a problem with yeast overgrowth, this made it extra hard. I stopped using oils and butters in my hair a year ago and creams followed right behind. My hair STRUGGLED for 6 months but with the help of supplements for my scalp, washing twice a week, and styling with ONLY a mousse and custard/gel, my hair is doing so well. I decided to do yearly trims versus 2-3 times a year. And starting next month, I’ll be spending fall and winter in low maintenance styles.

Can we also add not over shampooing? It donned on me that if a shampoo is recommended to be used every 7 to 10 days and I wash my hair twice a week and I use water soluble hair products that don't need much strength to wash off that I don't need to use that shampoo , an all-purpose shampoo every time I wash my hair. I feel over cleaning or rather not using the appropriate cleanser can also contribute to dryness and brittleness and cuticle damage.

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Since I’ve gotten curly cuts I’ve had crazy amount of single strand knots and detangling was a beast. I got them for a year and it did not get better. My stylist still recommended deep conditioning and I used a leave in every now and then. I recently did a straight cut just to even up the shape that was already there and it’s so much better. Detangling instantly became a breeze. In my experience it seems it was the cuts. The uneven ends rubbing just doesn’t work for me.

Interesting content. I would have liked to hear the name of some of the gels you used

I don’t/haven’t had any problems. I did quit leave ins, I did not quit deep conditioning, I did use gels on my naked hair, but I also never used a hooded drier on top of that. If my hair had a very hard cast, I washed it out right away before it damaged my strands. One other that I did do and you also mentioned that you may have is to watch my ends and clip them myself if they looked too broken and bizarre. And although I have not had problems, I can clearly see for myself that many have had issues. The root cause, I do not know.

I think at the end of it all yes there are new trends and things that are coming to light on how to treat and take care of natural hair. However, at the end of it all it trial and error you have to do what works for your hair. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. Hair is not cut a dry on how to what to when there are so many factors such as DNA, diet, and your climate

Not everything is for everyone. Oils and buttered have their place

I have never used the oils and butters. Here we do leave-in and styling cream and some times gel on top. Using gel alone?! Never! Too drying!

I want to believe that BGC will address this on the CIK training side. Not saying that is sufficient because they face consumers on a regular basis and consumers need to be reassured that they are taking things seriously.

Before discovering iambkackgirl I was already not using raw oil and butter. Personally I never liked gel but the way they showed how to use botanical gel made me do more wash n go. This year I did struggle with detangling which was weird for me so I went back to have trim on blowout hair. I didn’t get the same damage as Rosie or Shelly but I think a lack of use of treatment and leave in conditioner. For certain it might impact more than others. For me I admit I only did deep conditioning treatment when I was clarifying my hair which was once a month ( I guess maybe that’s why my hair wasn’t so damage ). I’m back using a leave in under gel and deep conditioning every other week.

On the hooded dryer comment: My stylist recommended to use a wet paper when sitting underneath the hooded dryer especially if your roots dry out faster than the ends. I also know another stylist recommends shaking out the water, working from cool to hot with the hooded dryer. And I agree hooded dryers aren’t created equal.

I feel free and empowered without oils and butters; my hair is so soft, but with just styling with water/ gel- I need to wash every 4 or 5 days.

yes I use the curls curls aloe gel

I’ve been getting curly cuts since 2018 and will continue. I don’t have tangles or split ends but I cleanse and condition my hair every 4-5 days and get my hair trimmed every 3mos. My stylist also cuts my hair wet with conditioner and trims any strays when dry. I workout 4 days a week and I sweat a lot in my scalp and I’m happy with this method and will continue.

Chile I wish I could leave a voice note lol. The method has definitely helped me, and thousands of people all over the world. I even have color treated hair as well, and I started doing it when you did! Deva cuts are a total different thing than the cut it kinky method! With any cutting method, it's gonna due damage to the hair! Stylists use thinning shears, feathering, and more to achieve a desired result! Straight cuts, are meant for straight hair! It's creates shape, for straight styles! Curly cuts are meant for curly styles! The hair will be uneven, because you're cutting it where it falls to achieve the desired result! So when they go to straight stylists, of course it's not going to look good, and even their cuts don't get all of the splits off, we've seen it so many times lol. One thing that is important when it comes to what we can do, is address everything! That includes, the quality of the water we have! Which does more damage than we know! All "deep conditioners" aren't deep conditioners! Deep conditioning isn't a time thing, and doesn't always have to take 15 mins to an hour! You also, can't just use cheap, low quality products with crazy ingredients either! Now my stylist always cuts my hair wet, and when I get a straight style like wand curls, she cuts it straight! Her method of cutting, is similar to the wet cut your last stylist did! So it is important to get your hair cut in a way that aligns with you! So, if you're not liking your results, find another stylist, and also tailor your at home routine accordingly. If you have more mineral heavy water, and your cleansing routine doesn't address that, then your hair will tell you! If you have a dryer, that doesn't disburse the heat evenly, your hair will tell you! The method doesn't encourage you to do exactly the same every time! If you want more fluff, use a mousse or even a cream, but make sure it has hold! If you feel you need a bit extra conditioning, use a light creamy or spray leave in. Be in charge of your results! WE DONT NEED RAW OILS AND BUTTERS! The good quality products have them! People just need to know how to use them! I think MOKNOWSHAIR explains it all in her recent videos, and her advice is whom I follow the most! Ok I'm done!

Oils are in all your hair care products. Oils are essential for holding and retaining moisture. Those humectants are oils and the botanical gels have oils in them. The no oils/butters over time will cause problems. Because hair damage does happen slowly over time. Oils aid in protein, fortification, lubrication, definition, sebum control, end sealant, and more. It keeps water in your hair long enough to hydrate your cortex/medulla. Not using enough will keep your hair less protected. And being that your hair is made up of 4% lipid (aka oil). That lipid layer of your hair maintains hair integrity. Hair integrity is how long your hair can stay healthy for. I believe the no oils/butters addresses the issue of using to much product and provides some relief. But it fails to address hair longevity and lasting healthy hair. Those split ends are because you’re not fortifying and replenishing your hair with enough oil to withstand the environment, your maintenance, aging, and other factors that naturally deteriorate the hair over time. Oils are literally what make moisture a possibility. Water by itself will never be enough to maintain healthy hair. Oils are so essential for true and lasting hair health.

I've tried just shampoo, conditioner and gel. Nope! With some leave in conditioner and oil I get a beautiful Lustre and shine that doesn't happen without it. So I'm doing what works for me. Whatever works baby girls, WORK IT!!

@JennJackson. I am not speaking negatively on this method because I haven't tried it due to being alrergic to gels. My hair breaks out with to much gels. But I wonder could the difference in experience have something to do with climate. I live in Houston, TX. Temperatures here tis past summer were 120°. During the summer it feels like death to have a wig or cap on our heads so we tend to wear braids and twisted updos. So maybe this method causes issues if the climate creates challenges. What are your thoughts? This is still a interesting topic and thanks for sharing.

Ok, before this became popular, this method did not work for me. My hair was really messed up and took a while to recover