Zullie I’m not sure I follow, does that mean that these are the original size for certain weapons and things, but done by Fromsoft?

You're the best Zullie

It would be cool to see more of the weapons that were inverted

@@gavankostelac2025 The weirdly sized versions are how the weapons were made in the modeling software, then they were adjusted to be normal sizes ingame. I can see the adjustments, because I was wanting to use the same values for adjusting weapons to match when I adjusted the player's size. If a weapon is exactly the same size in-game as it is in the modeling software, it's size multiplier will be 1. The Moaning Shield is secretly tiny, so its size multiplier had to be set to 39.6 to make it look reasonable ingame.

I don’t know what you’re on about, the Gotthards Swords were always supposed to be that big. From just made a huge mistake by making them smaller without also scaling down their hitbox.

"Also, can you make it a little less club like?"

So it got sandwiched?

@@badadvice6276 It could save others from not getting sandwiched, including itself.

@@badadvice6276 Hahah, Club Sandwich

too fluffy

@Dawn Not to mention adding images of their overly surprised reaction

Rewatched the old fast Gundyr video and went "dang that getup was sick,"?

Did they change that outfit in the dlc?

It is extremely good fashion souls though

@@wingedfish1175 They brought back the Black Witch Set in DLC2, so I immediately switched to wearing that.

Yep, this. It's also commonly seen as a byproduct of outsourcing. Since the outsourcers exist outside of the company, and are often working on multiple projects for different companies at once, they often don't have the same settings as the rest of production. The number of times I've had to fix outsourced files to be in line with internal conventions is too high to count. For these resizes, it's just easier to do it in engine with a scale-slider than faff around with pivot points and resetting the Xform on everything, especially when it may be tweaked in-engine anyway for better looks or to avoid clipping issues.

Interesting. It's not a result of the models being larger so it's easier to work with? So they don't have to be as intricate and delicate initially? Plus, sizing down an object seems better than sizing up an object, in my layman eyes.

@@Un1234l So, there are instances in which this is necessary, but generally speaking, modelling software doesn't care about the scale at all. Most modelling software works in 'units' rather than any measurement value, and It's only when exporting that it requires you to enter what one unit equals. Most of the time, you don't even realise you're working in the wrong scale until somebody imports the model into the engine and suddenly finds that the entire world map has just been swallowed by the toe of a character. Now, what I will say is that rescaling objects in engine is generally frowned upon because it causes a difference in 'texel density', which is basically how many pixels of texture are shown per mm of the model. If the texel density of two objects next to one another is too different, you'll notice a sudden and distinct difference in the quality of texture. In this case, scaling an object down is preferred because it's more hidden than if you make it larger, and more visible.

@@Un1234l a small 3d model and a big 3d model are basically the same if you zoom in/out the camera. The only difference would be that if an object is too small or too big, you can get floating point errors and the camera's near/far planes need to be adjusted to not cut the mesh in half

When I work with CAD models, they end up being wildly different sizes if I'm not working with strict measurements. If I import a properly scaled stl file into blender, it'll be way bigger than what I would have made in blender alone if I don't mess with import scale.

Or it's just an importing issue. I'm constantly rescaling FBXs inside Unity before being able to use them in game.

@@gamongames Might be both; I´m doing 3D in a small studio and scaling issues happen all the time lol

these are definitely scaling issues from fbx/obj imports.. and it's quicker to resize it in game than resend it back to the modellers, besides, everything will be scaled anyways one way or another hahaha

@@gamongames That sounds horrible honestly. You know the best games come from development teams who make their own engines and then use it for their games. Reusing other people's assets to make a game totally isn't a game.

This right here is the most sensible answer. They probably just used the in-engine rescaling to avoid having to contact the already busy modelling team for a fix.

no man knows everything

Yeah, that's a really cool detail.

Riightt lol

That's when I knew I had to subscribe

@@NadiraBarIdan you mean you *HAVEN’T* been subscribed to Zullie this whole time? Heresy!

It’s found in Lothrick archives I think

Yeah, and the description also directly confirms that the lock of hair belonged to a chaos witch.

@@Garl_Vinland You're mistaking the talisman to Witches Locks, which is a whip.

you find it pretty much beside quelana and daughter of chaos so it makes perfect sense

@@Jokuman357 Correct, though I wonder why the Witches locks are there in the first place.

thats such a perfect way of putting it

Fume ultra butter knife

@@Psykomancer Fume Toothpick lol

his own arm is what he uses

@@paatwo Then, now. Can we use ceaseless arm as a weapon?

Ceaseless Discharge but he's swinging nine ultra- greataxes

@@martinkurdi436 no :p

That or they had différent purposes,such as the moaning shield maybe being à button on some sort of fancy jacket or the gotthard sword being part of some statue but then the dev repurposed them

@@sapateirovalentin348 with the shield I find such a theory not likely as it is much too detailed for an item of this size

@@hantzbro i thought about it too but maybe they added détails after scaling it up

It's not one unit it's one Miyazaki

@@hantzbro I mean the coins in dark souls are pretty detailed too and they're small

"This shield moaned at least *this loud* "

_"Headphone warning"_

Maybe they did. We didn't hear it moan here. maybe it is a tiny humming coin in your pocket.

And didn’t make it 39 times stronger

@@lemeres2478 iShield Shuffle

maybe its the currency of giants

@@seelcudoom1 hey man, can I buy this offa ya? Only a coinful *pulls out comically large coin*

I was thinking it was set dressing in some other area that we don’t know they did it a lot with bloodborne

I guess that would be reaching a bit too far, but maybe it was meant as a buckler for thralls. They’re kinda small and their axes are already tiny, so maybe some of them were meant to have a (very) small shield as well

That would be the case if the modelling software demanded a specific amount of polygons per length, which it almost never does.

Isn't it morne's sister since its morne's gear that eygon is using

@@Jason-hz6cm think the armor is morne's and the weapon too but the shield was made for eygon. But idk you could be right we know very little about the way of white in the days of lothric

Nah there's no advantage to that, size is arbitrary and relative in 3d modellers, you can just zoom in

Modeling software doesn't care about size. All you do is just set "I want one square here to be 1m, or 1mm", and nothing changes in your modeling view until it gets integrated with other models

@@DavidVegaBurgos It may have started out as a coin

@@DrBrangar that is not true. There are a lot of parameters (simulations, remesh, shaders) that work different in different sizes. It makes perfect sense to me for the talisman to be resized.

Also slightly squished.

@@TheDeadmanTT I heard size increases if you add the "horni" flag.

Not sure if other than Americans and Brits , some others use the English Sistem. This is probability not the answer

​@@ilgiallo0 That happens not because Americans and Brits made 3d models, that happens because a novice didn't check units of measurement before doing the model. This was a pretty common thing for 3ds max because when you opening a third-party model, you can accept its units as system units and forget about it. And when the model was rigged, rescaling it isn't the nicest thing to do, especially if the export-to-the-engine pipeline was not so short as export to Fbx - import to the game. Yeah, some weapons with weird scaling, maybe were pathfinders for the proper size for creatures, but 39 is the result of a mistake in units of measurement.

I used to post anonymously, but I attended a big Cosplay Fight Club event in Dark Souls II as "Zullie the Witch". When Crown of the Sunken King got patched in early shortly after, I, among several other hackers, broke in with Cheat Engine to scope the place out before it was released, and I still had the cosplay character loaded when I was posting stuff from that. People recognized me as the same Zullie from the fight club, and so they started using that to refer to me. It kind of just caught on and never caught off.

@@ZullietheWitch That's pretty awesome. It was your DS2 content that originally caught my attention, as I feel the game is very underrated and it was a breath of fresh air to see KZfaq content for it. So it's cool that your origin story was with DS2.

@@ZullietheWitch Funny how stuff like that works out so perfectly. I think the "Zullie the Witch" persona fits with this channel's content, being primarily about showing obscure and arcane knowledge/tidbits, exactly the sort of stuff a witch would know.

@@ZullietheWitch Good old /dsg/. I remember all that from like 2014.

@@shayposting cringe.

Eyyy amir wassup.

I assume they copied and pasted the art/meshes/etc, if not the actual file.

Hello Amir 👋

@@solderingiron1008 hi

I always hear your comments read in your voice, Amir 😆

It's from Ashes of Ariandel.

Follower's Sabre, to be exact

Yeah it’s phenomenal for breaking the guard of turtles with its weapon art and nice for catching someone on wake up with it too.

it's a SS from AoA with a pretty cool moveset

@@ZullietheWitch Weird, I’ve never come across it. Where do you find it?

I was going to say this, I know a lot of artists that work at large scale because it's easier to add detail, and also easier to hide mistakes when shrunk back down.

I also thought that, but then why would this pretty well detailed shield be so tiny originally?

My only problem with that is that with modeling software can't you just like... zoom in for more detail?

Working big in 3D works different than working big in pixel, 2D drawings. 2D drawings have a set of pixels (for example, 1920x1080 has a total of 2.073.600 pixels), whereas a model normally stores vertex data (it's a bit more complex than that). This means that I could add an infinite number of vertices between x=1 and x=2, and just zoom in to see them with detail

I was watching dark souls videos and making memes for over two years before i actually picked up the games, haha

But the textures on the true size talisman are visibly pixellated, not to mention the huge polygons.

not realy a good argument, sizte is arbitrary in modeling software, you just zoom in to add detail, making the thing way larger and then scaling it down has no advantage for the modeler

@@weberman173 well at a certain resolution eventually you just get pixels, what I’m saying is this is effectively a way to “cheat” designs into being a higher level of detail than the resolution would typically allow just working in that size. I guess “add detail” isn’t quite right, more like, making sure they could put in the details cleanly. The other chap mentions the original Talisman not being very high detail, but you can see that the Witch’s ring is there and in higher detail than the original icon for it. And I doubt you’d have any chance at distinctly seeing something like that if it was just modelled at its release size.