"He had the personality of a solo cup and the charisma of a sex offender" That explains the romance subplot of Sonic 06 pretty well.

>Sonic >Bloated *DeviantArt Flashbacks*

Was this entire video to brag about holding records in Sonic R?

"Nobody cares about this." Me, an intellectual: SA2 Fandub.

The moment Sonic said Meow, he changed the world

Sonic couldn’t even reach its full potential when he competed against Mario’s gang at several Olympic Games

Be warned, fair viewer. He does NOT like Sonic. I mean, that's totally fine with me, but this is the internet. Just bring a hazmat suit.

10:38 “It wasn’t about nostalgia” Uh yes it was

I literally forgot about the sonic movie until i saw this video

Have to degrade in quality at a quick pace.

This just feels like another “Sonic was never good” video.

It's cute how you implied there are hundreds of bad levels in Generations when the game can be beat in an afternoon which is one of its biggest flaws

*Jim Carrey:* P I N G A S *Me:* _Just be careful, he's truly a hero..._

When he said Sonic CD was the most streamlined Sonic game I raised an eyebrow When he said Sonic Adventure wasn't good I was just confused

Sonic isn't dead. Because he lives on in the hearts of his fans, whether sane, demented, old or young.

Little did he know, the Sonic movie wouldn’t be that bad.

Sad too see Sonic go down every time it tries to get back on its feat.This coming from a person who's never played Sonic.

So basically, Sonic games were always terrible and my opinion is everyone's opinion, and that's why modern Sonic sucks. Except for Sonic CD, that was actually good. What?

Sonic CD and Sonic R are the peaks? I used to think opinions couldn't be wrong, but then...

I don’t think “Sonic CD” and “Good Level Design” should really be in a sentence together, even as someone who likes CD. The level design is so much more vapid and hectic than any of the other games with very little challenge. It’s done that way for easier platforming (tied to hunting down the robot generators), but the platforming imo was done better in other games. I, with all respect, disagree about CD being the best in any gameplay regard, certainly not against Sonic 3 & Knuckles. S3&K’s level design is more involved and structured than anything in CD and CD also possessed water levels as well (that possessed no real challenge to them, even if you were going for the robot generators). Hydrocity Zone from S3&K operates on the idea that players who are better at the game can largely ignore the water and remain at a fast pace, with less experienced players taking the water-filled bottom routes. This idea also permeates Sonic 2’s Aquatic Ruin Zone but the underwater lower paths in HZ are less punishing than in ARZ.

I use the Sonic drowning music as my alarm. That sound traumatized me so much as a child that as soon as the dun-dun-dun-dun starts, I'm awake.

Sonic 3 and Knuckles is widely regarded as one of the greatest games of the 16 bit era and one of the best 2D platformers ever made

I would’nt say sonic was a mediocre mascot back then. That’s the definition of the”it’s not Nintendo so it sucks”. He had, and still does have more personality than Mario ever will. The Mario character’s and games are amazing but Sonic doesn’t get him enough credit.

Knowledge Hub: Sonic Games arent good cause People dont wanna learn levels Also Knowledge Hub: Sonic R is amazing cause you get to learn the levels

Ah yes, Sonic R. A game with 2 original characters that haven't seen the light of day since then, slippery controls, and an unfitting (but still very catchy) soundtrack. Perfectly represents the Sonic series as a whole.

Obviously everything in this video, at least when talking about game quality, is largely subjective.

"Sonic Mania wasn't about nostalgia" its literal first trailer talked about "going back to the start". it was made for Sonic's 25th anniversary. it had many references to old games (from obscure games like Sonic the Fighters and more known games like Sonic 3) and like, only 1 or 2 to the modern games (and even then, they were from the 2d ones like the advance series). you yourself said it was about REINVENTING the classic games. it catered specifically for those who loved the classic games. i disagree with many things on this video, but you don't have to take me seriously anyways my pfp is a dead giveaway

Okay I’m gonna be honest here, this video feels more of just a biased video especially with not knowing the exact information such as the sales of mania and forces or even who made them. Not to mention stating about how sonic R passes off as a fact rather than a opinion from how I viewed it. You also failed to acknowledge the core gameplay of the adventure games when it comes to exploration and replay-ability. It would’ve been better to at least to give out constructive criticism to specifically tell what they could improve on. Such as hire more developers, or don’t rush the game (which we did see them delaying their games such as mania and TSR so far)

I think the sonic movie is Sonic's last "fast" chance at redemption

Ha, this video aged badly Sonic Movie ended up overtaking video game films

Is there a, "Sonic has had a rocky transition into the 3d world," or a, "The Sonic series has had many ups and downs, mostly downs," and parts where he makes fun of 06 and a few bad moments from the other games and tries to make it look as if the whole series centers around it?

While I agree with most of the video, how is Sonic 3 a step back from Sonic CD, but you go on to praise Sonic Mania? Sonic Mania shares so many qualities with Sonic 3 & Knuckles over Sonic CD. Also, you claimed that Sonic Forces sold only 100,000 copies? Where are your sources? A quick search will show that the true number (at least for first week sales) was closer to 234,000. While it's embarrassingly low, just exaggerating isn't helping you sound any more credible.

"I can't run that fast" "This is a kidnapping"

How dare you insult Sonic, he's gonna come knocking on your door delivering a sundae with skates now smh

After the Sonic movie, I’m not sure this applies. A lot of people saw the Sonic movie that probably haven’t even played a Sonic game

As a Sonic fan myself who is a big fan of his confident personality (plus he's blue my favorite color so points there) it's just sad to see him fall so far from grace. The fandom is actual trash, and the ONE TIME he could've bounced back thanks to a film, they made him look like...something out of a literal nightmare. Hopefully the redesign will be better but I highly doubt it. Poor Sonic.

This man said mania wasn't about nostalgia or pandering, huh

I have to ask about Mania: Where did you get the fact that Sonic Mania has sold poorly? SEGA has been intentionally vague about Sonic Mania's sales numbers, from what I recall. It had enough success to have additional content a year later, so I can't imagine it was a failure.

Tyler, your videos feel like fever dreams that have been put to canvas...and they bring me such genuine joy to watch and listen too.

I will warn you again. Be careful talking about Sonic. The fanbase will be here in a matter of time.

This man really said sonic CD and R are the best games 🤦‍♂️

I still think the franchise can make a great comeback, just in the right hands

Thank you for posting. Your narration is something that's enjoyable

Well, that movie prediction certainly didn't turn out

Mania didn’t sell well? I need some sources.

This video sounds more like childish rambling than actual well thought out criticism.

No one gives Sonic Spinball the love it deserves

is this a historical video? if so, whats with these false claims of sonic being a bad mascot? sega was trampling nintendo in the video game market, stirring up big competition (cause sonic is a *great* mascot). is this a review of sonic games? if so, why are you skipping over major games in the franchise? you mightve loved the boost formula (a formula rewarding of top-speed) in unleashed, colors and generations, yet theyre completely ignored for... sonic r?! im not seeing the overall purpose of this video.

Honestly they just need a full fledged in-depth Chao Garden game.

Yeah this video is pretty bad. Dont watch for a proper criticism.

I just played Sonic Adventure for the first time on a Dreamcast and I thought it was good honestly.

You effectively lost all credibility with me once you said "Sonic R best sonic" , at least in terms of games taste.

Only sonic can get into area 51.

Genesis Does What Nintendon't™ *EDIT:* Also, I _still_ can't get over the fact that Sonic was once voiced by Jaleel White… better known as _Steve Urkel._ …does anyone today even remember _Family Matters_ ?

Yes because in this age of Mania, Team Sonic Racing, the IDW series, and entire shots in a big budget Paramount film being completely reworked, Sonic is dead. Man, I never realized how much of an asshole I must have sounded like saying that I hate 2D Mario, but this is even worse since you're presenting all this as objective fact. No fun allowed!

This whole video is him just felxing he got the wolrd speed run records for sonic R

the movie turned out alright guys

Sonic honestly has more good in the franchise then bad. His good games out beat his bad games in many ways

I really like the direction you're taking the channel, man. It's very satisfying to watch your new videos. Keep up the great work my man.

“Sonic CD levels are streamlined” wtf no they aren’t. Wacky work bench where you bounce everywhere. springs everywhere. The levels felt more like a labyrinth. Trying to go from past to future is annoying since you gotta have a good idea on how the level is designed to be able to get the right amount of momentum to time travel. In order to get the best ending, you either need to keep 50 rings at the end of the level (easier said then done especially for a first time player) or go to the past and find the one machine located somewhere in the level. The one with the streamlined levels was sonic 2.

You would be a perfect fit at IGN bro

Sonic advance was good too :(

Not sure if I should take this video seriously or not... I'm going with not taking it seriously.

Keep up the great content, love the shift for knowledgehub

I remember that proggresive sonic commercial and I was so confused when I first saw it.

I respectfully disagree.

5:20 I am sorry, but how is the original super mario bros more accessible then sonic 3? And how is sonic 3 a step back? It has multiple characters, better level design, super sonic. I really dont see how sonic cd is better then sonic 3 or 2 to be honest.

Hey I'm gonna be fair, this video isn't fair like at all, look I will resume this video in a few words: "What I didn't like was bad and what I did like was flawed but good also Sonic Team doesn't know how to handle Sonic" biased video. Now don't get me wrong he is not wrong on every point but clearly he did surface level research of the series and only looked into what he liked/what was popular to comment about, idk if this was supposed to be an overview of the series but this is like saying the Sonic series was always failling and the Mario series was always successful (Wich isn't true because Mario 64 sold well mostly thanks to the n64 bundle y'know) Adding storytelling was a bad idea for adventure ? script made by a 4 years old ?? Afaik the script writers did some research for the lore (more than this video at least) and even some trip for it, and uhh every 3d game had a story by the end of the n64 era but hey Sonic did it and failed miserably what a loser. I'm disappointed this is again another attempt at showing all the bad sides of the Sonic licence to make it seem like it only failed time and time again and pull out the "it didn't sell well" card when sales means nothing about a game quality. Sure the Sonic licence has changed its formula time and time again and it not always brought back good result but I wouldn't call Sonic a corpse for that, like Mario (I'm gonna use him since op decided to use him for comparison purposes) never changed it's gameplay on a fundamental level and no one calls him outdated or says Mario should change, Mario found it's fitting formula and stuck to it for it's mainline entries, Sonic did but wanted to please newer fans so it changed, that ended leading to some bad games like 06 (I'm not gonna comment on the usage of 06 as the stapple of worst game because of it's overuse by people trying to defame the series while it has changed) and some very good games like Colors and Generations, now unfortunately the games are not perfect and no game is actually so I don't know why we're trying to judge the sonic games like they're supposed to be. I'm gonna end this by saying the Sonic licence is mishandled, at times it brought some really good games, sometimes the games were mediocre at worst and some very case where the development was a real hellfire but we shouldn't remember a licence only for a few bad games that tainted the series forever because to be fair if the series was this bad there wouldn't be any Sonic Mania to begin with and most importantly there wouldn't be any Fanbase to speak at all, I can assure you the if the fanbase is still alive and this creative then that means the licence is not dead far from that. Tldr: this video is again another attempt at showcasing ever wrong doing in the Sonic licence and then say the series was never good except for these few exceptions while Sonic just has trouble pleasing it's audience (without using a gimmick to make the game longer might I add)

Man, i miss *MISSING FILE* , he was such an amazing character

Everybody! *_do the mario_*

LOL the ending credit easter egg ftw. I friggin love this chanel and the way the content is designed and flows if that makes sense! :) It hits with an almost OCD level of perfection. You must really love your work! I dig it. :) Don't burn out and stay awesome!

Well this aged well. The Sonic movie did well. And now has a part 2 coming out

Anyone else really liked Sonic Rush? I loved playing it on my old DS Edit: I also really enjoyed Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. It was a good rpg as a kid.

You know a video is gonna be flawed when you can see criticism in the top comments.

The sonic fan base in general. 90s: Children trying to be RAD AS FUCK! 2000s: People trying to justify having a Dreamcast. 2010s: THIS IS SHIT! LOL! Modern Day: FURRSONAS “MEOW!”

Sammy tried to warn us.

Allow me to preface this by stating that I respect your right to your own opinion and enjoy the content you create. That being said, I really just don't like this video at all. It's clear early on that you're no Sonic fan, which is perfectly fine and doesn't disqualify you from making a review of the games, but your comparisons and dissection of the game play is incredibly frustrating to me. You scoff at the trial and error nature of the original genesis games but praise Sonic R for doing largely the same. Sure they didn't have easily accessible stage selections but they were there beneath cheat codes, and though I wasn't alive in the early 90's it seems like a lot of people knew about them. Sonic R let you determine your own path, and the genesis games did much the same through layered platforming that rewarded you with less obstacles and frequent opportunities to build momentum/speed the higher up you went. I love Sonic CD for its environment and unique qualities, but calling Sonic 3 a "step down" isn't an opinion you're likely to hear repeated. CD had loads of dead ends, funky obstacles and was marred by the time travel gimmick that forced the developers to include long empty sections to reach proper speed. The time trial mode was also only included in the 2011 remake and not the original (although a cheat code was present like in the other games), so I really don't see how that's a fair comparison. I won't argue with the crusty 90's attitude, declining sales, SEGA's incompetence, but if you're going to do a Sonic video today you really ought to do your research first. It almost seems that you're being purposefully contrarian at times, which is fine but it should be supported with proper explanations. TL;DR This video felt lazy and at its lowest contradictory in its points. Sonic isn't perfect, the games have some huge flaws, but complaining about not having the patience to replay the genesis levels but going on to hold record times in Sonic R just because a stage select is present is UNBELIEVABLY confusing. I mean no harm, it just bothered me and I wanted to voice my opinion.

Christ this video hurts to watch, especially that first minute or two. Maybe that's what you were going for? I dunno, but it ain't jiving with me or my eyes.

I loved your reference to the boys, since I just binged watched it in the last 24 hours

Man I remember playing Sonic DX Adventure on my dad's emulator for HOURS when I was 7 and those cutscenes to me are pure art. Great vid

Woah woah, don't hate on Sonic DX, i loved playing that game on my cousins computer 😪😪.

Sega does what ninten don’t: bankruptcy

Hey there, nice video. I really like your take on Sonic R being a great game in the series for capturing the spirit. Personally, 3 (& Knuckes!) are my milestone favorites, but it could be due to repeatedly replaying them. After all, there's a certain zen-like pleasure in playing a classic sonic level that you've got down on rote memory.

Ngl dude something about your voice is Just perfect enough to keep me focused but to not distract me when I’m writing.

Honestly, I'd have to disagree with parts of this, especially the parts about Adventure. From what I've heard, the Adventure games were played by people in and out of the Sonic fandom when first released. Sure, there were conflicting opinions about the gameplay and plots, but people enjoyed them overall. I'm someone who doesn't particularly like the first Adventure at all, but to disregard just how well-received it was at the time is slightly unfair.

So. A certain movie came out. Wanna try saying Sonic is irrelevant again?

Nice video, Kermit. Got as far as 2:08 before the searing headache induced by the video effects took hold.

I'm DYING looking at the jacked up pictures of these characters! Hilarious

Father, I apologise for I have soiled my undergarments. I will report at once to the household shower to cleanse myself. Once clean I shall speak with the housewench for fresh clean clothing. Goodnight Father.

Sonic Mania didn't sell that well?

Good job on the speed runs!

YES! Sonic R was sooo awesome for a very young me. Loved it!

Nobody: This is video comes out IGN: Good job, my boy. It’s perfect

Petition to change the saying beating a dead horse to beating a dead hedgehog

"SONIC BAD" l a u g h

I've never heard somebody say that CD was better than 3 & Knuckles. ...and then say that Sonic R was the best game in the franchise... What are you smoking and where can I get it?

My opinion is wrong but i like the day time sonic unleashed levels because it’s fun to speed run the levels.

You’re obviously not familiar with the sonic dreams collection

I got an ad for Sega as I watched the video about Sonic's bloated corpse. Outstanding move Sega.

To be completely honest, if development went right, I think Sonic 06 might have been a masterpiece. The fact that it didn't even meet a tenth of its potential is depressing.