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The Sonic and Knuckles fight in "Labyrinth Zone" had me slacked jawed in the cinema. The action scenes were so well done. Especially loved the callback to the intro of Sonic 3 when Knuckles punched the Master Emerald out of Eggman.

I actually genuinely loved the part with unhinged Rachel. I really disliked her in the first movie, but she earned so much effin' respect in this one

I can't lie the fact that the Chaos Emeralds merged into one to become the master emerald kind of makes more since than the ones in the games. Though it seems they are separate entities by the end of it, but atleast there is a connection with the emeralds themselves first.

one of my favorite jokes in the movie is robotnik spying on sonic and tom's texts (I think? I don't remember exactly) and knuckles just repeating them super seriously, and he sees that one of them is typing and he just says "dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot"

I believe the phrase that applies best here, overused as it is, is "Sonic 1" walked so that Sonic 2 could run.

I have a few ideas in defence of the wedding scene. Trying to think of what they wanted to say narratively with it, first of all it introduces G. U. N. as an SCP kind of organization, started exclusively to contain Sonic and any other aliens. Also, they're a replacement to what Eggman was doing for the military. It was also a nice way to convey how Tails works as a character, even knocked unconscious, he indirectly saves himself through the gadgets he brought with him, so he's about empowering others rather than himself. I also see this scene as a sample for the kind of movies that Paramount wants to do. There's a comedy action movie by them that's coming out soon that this wedding scene helped convince me to watch. I want to support the brand if they have more fun movies.

This video alone just tells you WHY Sonic Movie 2 is so conceptually amazing to watch.

I kind of liked watching Maddie and Rachel fighting back. It showed how gifted Tails is when they show off his gadgets.

I disagree with the wedding criticism. Tom and Maddie are part of the movie franchise so they both deserve their fair share of screen time imo. Plus the Wedding scene wasn't that bad

The labyrinth fight was brutal and awesome felt like an anime honestly also having the master emerald be split from chaos emeralds to make it more game accurate was a good choice

Thing is. Tom Holkenberg has shown he is an incredibly talented composer. With both the Snyder Cut and GvK last year proving that. So hopefully for the next film paramount let's him go all out

The fact they didn’t go hard on the “Sonic drowning” music made me confused. Like, what a golden opportunity they missed.

In sonic 3 I think crush 40 might return to remake live and learn.

This was such a great film. The only thing I would ask for (selfishly) is even more fan service. Maybe a song from the games? Because I'm just as greedy as any Sonic fan who has stuck with this franchise for 30 years. I understand that this film is made for a wider audience and isn't quite as focused on the relatively small minority of 30-somethings that came to see it. But, seeing as this is a Sonic property, I'm sure someone out there is already working on remixing iconic scenes with the old music. Only a matter of time before the snowboarding sequence is dubbed over with Ice Cap Zone music.

That Shadow mid credits scene though! 😁😁

I just had a big dumb smile through the entire run-time. I even enjoyed the human stuff, surprisingly.

Sonic: Trying his best Tails: Actually a creepy stalker Knuckles: Dealing with severe PTSD

Ngl I was disappointed that Eggman didn't say "I HATE THAT HEDGEHOOOOGGGGGG!!!!!" when falling to his "death"

I would love a reference in the third movie to the damn fourth Chaos emerald. Who's with me?

The best bit was when Sonic summoned the chilli dog and that was it, I thought that was hilarious

I can’t wait to see SA2 adapted into a live action movie. Jim Carrey retiring does worry me and if they’re going to include Amy and Rouge.

I've been dying to discuss this movie online, but don't wanna post on Twitter etc at risk of spoiling since it's only now releasing in US - but yeah, I'm glad you said it cos many people are just ignoring it: Music. After the announcement trailer and first proper trailer featured Emerald Hill music, I sat excitedly through the whole film waiting for it... Just to get nothing. There was somehow less Sonic music in this film than the first one, and that's excluding the Green Hill ringtone, since it's literally just used for that gag. Where-as Sonic 1 had Friends at the start, and the Green Hill piano version at the end. I was so excited for an Emerald Hill remix, even for the title screen, and we didn't even get it there. As long as the quality of Movie 3 is like this one, though, I'll be happy. Music would simply be my one request to improve it in the 3rd one. Especially, if we're adapting SA2, incorporating Live and Learn. Not having Crush 40 in Sonic 2 after fans were so clear they wanted to hear them, even something original, just seems foolish. But you can't NOT have Live and Learn if the two golden boys end up in space fighting the Biolizard. I'll literally consider it a near perfect movie if I get that, nothing brings more hype for that scenario.

I could see Crush 40 be a part of the 3rd movie ESPECIALLY since shadow is gonna be in it. I was hoping sonic 3 was gonna be about sonic adventure 2 and so far it seems like that may end up being the case.

Casino Night is it's own world in the Pre-Quill comic. It exists out there and is just a single ring portal away.

I loved this movie! Such a fun, wholesome time!! Yeah, it got a little too goofy and too silly sometimes, but I don't mind that because I was still entertained either way. The wedding scene was definitely my biggest nitpick, but at the same time it had a lot of laughs, and was necessary to set up G.U.N and Shadow as the primary antagonists in Movie 3. Speaking of which, WHOOOOOO! Shadow looks fantastic! Can't wait to see how they portray him.

i actually..................ENJOYED the Rachel,Maddie,and G.U.N. scene, they were putting the human characters in a role that wasn't useless but didnt give them ALL the screentime which i appreciate

I do agree that the Randall and Rachel part dragged on but enough that it got some establishment for the next movie. High chance that Amy and some others will be introduced as well and that they also have some kind of human companion. Like Rouge being linked with Randall, like she was with Topaz in Sonic X. Obvious sexual innuendos as she also did that with Topaz in the Japanese dub.

I do like you’re idea of G.U.N. showing up out of nowhere and crashes the wedding without the catfish idea. They detain Sonic but after hearing Robotnik is back and the beam of light is done from afar. Sonic manages to escapes and tie up the G.U.N. soldiers while Tom and Maddie escape with Tails. It’s short to the point and gets the plot moving, it cuts at least 10 minutes of what felt like padding.

A worry that I have for the sequel is that the writers will turn Knuckles into dumb musclehead like what the MCU did with Drax in Guardians of the Galaxy.

That wasn't just a 'rock track' Robotnik was listening to lol, that was Pantera

You should definitely check out the promotional comics, they act as a sort of prequel (pre-quill is still a terrible joke) and they explore and flesh out a lot of the game Zones, including Casino Night Zone and even a little Chaotix cameo easter egg as the cherry on top. They're very fun

I would say that moments like the bar scene and wedding scene give an opportunity for fans who are not into those kind of scenes, to get up and use the bathroom or get some popcorn. They don’t allow intermissions in long films anymore so long boring scenes where you know nothing is gonna happen for a while give you a chance to get up for a bit. Nobody says you need to sit there for 2 hours straight.

I really didn’t think the wedding stuff was that bad. I liked it. Regardless, this whole movie was amazing. I loved every single second. Every. Single. Second.

I love how when you look back at the first movie after watching the second, that first movie was just setting up the accuracy to the games and comics in the second. The Master Emerald, Doctor Eggman’s new look, his giant robot, his badnik army, and even Knuckles were all just awesome to see in live action. I really hope they make a third movie with Shadow as well. Edit: I know that there is pretty much a guarantee that they will make another Sonic movie, but Jim Carrey has also said that this was the last movie before he retires/resigns, so that could possibly play a part in whether they make a third movie or not.

Good live action videogame movie is very rare. I am glad that Sonic 1 & 2, and Detective Pikachu is one of those rare gems. What about animated video game movies? They are not going to have a problem Its animated there is nothing to worry about.

With both Knuckles and now shadow we can possibly see rouge the bat in sonic 3 or knuckles spin off series and maby amy especially if rouge shows up in the knuckles spin off. And if they want to create a cinematic sonic universe blaze the cat movie or show.

There was a part where he was prepping to go to the master emerald and it wad like the beginning of a level where it says "3,2,1,GO!"

Note when I saw the that beat down sonic gave to knuckles in the temple I lost my sh#&# but couldn’t shout out loud because I was in cinemas

Funny that you talked about Casino Night because in the Pre-Quill comic it's revealed to be a zone from Sonic's world

I liked the Rachel sequence (she really just takes over the movie for a few minutes), but the editing on that final section could have been a bit sharper. Every beat was fine, but some of the shots were just held for too long. Looking forward to see how they do Shadow. The films have been mostly carefree in tone with serious and emotional moments sprinkled in appropriately. Like the way they pitched Knuckles rode the line perfectly between straight and self-aware. But Shadow is so edgy and melodramatic, it's hard to imagine where that balance will fall for him (especially without it being a retread of Knuckle's character arc). Like, imagine if they got Carey to play Gerald Robotnik in flashbacks, and in complete contrast to his Eggman performance, he plays it like a serious dramatic role. Ofcourse my main point of reference is Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog. I never played Adventure so I don't know much about that version of events, with Chaos and all that. Mainly the space station stuff with Maria. But yeah, interested to see how that play it.

Yeah, that’s something I don’t get about adaptations and reboots. Why do they never use the original music at any point? It’s not just Sonic that does this, basically any movie that is an adaptation of a game never uses the original music, and for some reason, even movie reboots never use the old music. I don’t understand why movies seem to be afraid of remixing or even just insterting the old stuff.

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Totally agree, the boring wedding sequence is honestly embarrassing and tbh I’m not fond of the dance battle in Siberia. Will say though they should have done a bit more to characterise Tails and maybe explain how the hell he has been managing to watch Sonic in enough detail to hear his quips/learn what he likes and dislikes.

The Ice Cap part is definitely a reference and even in the pixel art at the end, it shows off S3 Ice Cap and then goes to SA1 Ice Cap. The Labyrinth Zone scene is amazing because it uses sequences from said zone, Lost World from SA1 and Hidden Palace from S3K (and a bit of S2 according to the credits). I just love how they essentially recreated the Sonic vs Knuckles scene into movie format, even coming down to the interrupted fight because Eggman was about to take the Master Emerald.

The dance battle was my favorite scene! As you touched upon with a big part of the movie's appeal coming from seeing relationships take shape, this scene where Sonic and Tails found their groove with one another was a ton of fun and rather heartwarming, too, especially when they cuddled up by the fireplace!

the labyrinth zone fight literally had me holding my breath! like the they had the scene where knuckles and sonic come flying at each other from the trailer and it was badass but then the very next second BAM it just get 100x my freaking epyk! I was really worried the trailers would have left little to be surprised by but they actually didn't show too much at all and still left most of the best moments from the movie

They did sonic so good and knuckles blew me away I loved his personality. His voice was on point! The fight scene in the temple was crazy and you could name many more scenes fr! 9/10

That dance scene, I liked how they added that Sonic SA poster pose. I was happy when I saw'll that

Sonic 3 is definitely gonna be a Sonic Adventure 2 movie so this could be the chance to finally have Crush 40 during the FinalHazard with Live and Learn

Honestly, if it weren't for Natasha Rothwell hilarious acting, I'd just fuckin' _loathe_ the wedding scene. She really carried it IMO

I agree they could have cut that wedding scene down by like half and give Knuckles and Sonic morphite time or just something relevant to the new team that's building up

If Sonic 3 can get across the sibling bond Shadow and Maria had prior to her death I'll be satisfied (also the inclusion of Maria - they could choose to pass on it). Maybe Sonic 3 is where we get our Crush 40 insert song, especially if both hedgehogs have to go super.

I loved how Sonic did his adventure pose in the dance scene

They gotta add "live and learn"! It's one of the best reference song from SA2

5:00 they arent embracing the audio in general. Which, idk, weird sounds dont really tend to alienate audiences, the audio referencing the games just feels like a no brainer to me. Like when Sonic are the air bubble, it was a nice references, but without the sound it just didnt feel right.

After seeing the movie myself, differently enjoyable and interested to see what the third one will bring to the table, finger cross Metal Sonic (my favourite Sonic villain) gets into the films somehow...

Did anyone else see the photo of Eggman in his classic costume in agent stone’s lab?

My favourite scenes were when Sonic went Super, and the machines started crafting into the Death Egg Robot, just masterful

I mean, the soap opera wedding stuff is actually a fun reference to Shemar Moore's history as a soap opera actor. I do like the reference but the pace does get a little slowed for a moment... On top of that, I think the reference to Moore's acting career actually got a good laugh from my sister.

I also like how, although he is really fast he actually seems to have stamina and pain unlike the games which makes sense for the knuckles, instead of making him just invincible like you said

I just realized something, when it’s revealed that the master emerald is made up of the chaos emeralds I think what happened there is that when knuckles brought them back together and the chaos emeralds were separated after you know what, knuckles essentially created a feedback loop where in the chaos emeralds are now tied to the master Emerald and can now be shut down by the master emerald. Essentially now the master emerald can kind of create the master emerald while the master emerald can also create the chaos emeralds, so they can actually fall back on it if such a situation occurred

I was surprised they put a Pantera song for the death egg robot scene

Awesome video!! Can’t wait to hear you guys discuss it on Sunset City! I saw Sonic 2 last Sunday and absolutely loved it, and I’m aching to see it again. It feels like I’m almost just as hyped to see it again as I was to see it the first time (and I was seriously counting down the days for it)! I think I agree with everything you’ve said. The wedding scene was a little long but I actually thought, “oh wow if they have time for this and for the Sonic and Tails captured scene, there must be a lot more to come!” and I was not disappointed. I’m still not ENTIRELY sure how I feel about Robotnik being infused with the Emerald energy, himself, rather than harnessing it with a machine or already having a Death Egg Robot - but he was only back on Earth for a short time so couldn’t have all this ready to go. Part of me wonders what it would’ve been like if he’d said something like, “if you can’t beat ‘em, make a copy of ‘em” and then materialised a Metal Sonic to battle Sonic. But then that would’ve taken away from the awesomeness of Robotnik personally getting his hands dirty and wreaking havoc. I was a bit surprised to see Knuckles actually believe Robotnik was his friend, but I’d forgotten about Robotnik calling him his Bestest Friend Forever And Ever, and maybe even though Knuckles was ready to scrap their alliance early on, maybe he really did still want a friend. Tails was done really nicely I think, and I like how he and Sonic got to talk and bond, and Tails sweetly covered Sonic with his tails for warmth as they went to sleep, awwww! And the final baseball scene was lovely, and I am forever glad they didn’t do a dance party… can we stop including those in family movies? Overall I think it’s a fantastic 9 / 10, and I cannot wait to own it on Blu-Ray along with my copy of Sonic 1!!

the wedding part I feel like you can take a bathroom break and won't miss. any essential parts of the movie I feel that's what its there for. a breather.

I’d argue that the Dance-Off scene is necessary to the plot in the sense that it introduces Tails’ hologram duplication technology, which aids them in the end in defeating Robotnik.

Honestly, I'd say Eggman's mech is more analagous to the Great Eggman Robo from Sonic 3: it's powered by the Master Emerald, shoots lasers, and has fingers. Honestly, I _adored_ everything about this movie. I enjoyed the whole G.U.N breakout segment, and I'm a little surprised it got all the flack that it is. In a way, it was also a pretty good scene for Tails, since they were using _his_ tech and all.

The one thing I didn't like regarding music in the film was the fact that they hit is with that hype track when Sonic gets the upper hand on Knuckles while he's walking up to the Master Emerald, but it lasts like 10 seconds.

Favorite part is actually when robotnic used WALK BY PANTERA to show the movement of the Death egg I popped for it

loved this review!! glad you had a great time watching it like i did

The first appearance of Sonic in Seattle is an inside joke about the former basketball team "The Seatlle Sonics"

Technically, Labyrinth Zone is on South Island in the games. But, considering the imagery of whatever those creatures are in Labyrinth, they're significant to the history of Sonic as they're obviously ancient beings and also appear in Hydrocity Zone in Sonic 3. So to tie the symbolism to the master emerald is perfectly fine in my book. Though I would have liked for there to be a Hidden Palace reference somewhere. The one thing I didn't like was that the master emerald and chaos emeralds were fused into the same object.

I saw it last night, one thing I don’t understand, what were those human like things that came out the portal on the mushroom planet before knuckles

14:20 in the end credit scene they said there was no sign of Robotnik, so I’d take that as he isn’t dead.

Since we've all seen the film at this point, we all must know about the Shadow reveal at the end of the film. Great News for Shadow fans but bad news for Metal Sonic fans who were hoping to see him in the next film. What if I told you we will. What if in Sonic 3 they decided to pull a Godzilla vs. Mech Godzilla on us and reveal that under Shadow's skin is a metal sonic endoskeleton Big Brain moment 🧠. Mind blown 🤯

So idk if this bias or not but I’ll try to give my objective opinion and I’ll keep it as brief as possible. When I went to the movies to see STH2 I saw a lot of kids there with me and my girlfriend, I thought they were going to ruin the experience, but not at all, I laughed with the kids and my girlfriend being a fan of Criminal Minds love when the agent popped up, first thing she said was what is Morgan doing here. When I was a kid, my favorite game was SA2Battle, I used to just listen to the soundtrack on repeat after I’ve beaten the whole game, thinking to myself how cool would it be to be Sonic. I loved that game and the chao gardens were a perfect side thing to do. I love most of this movie, I hated the Eggman Floss dance, however most of the jokes weren’t horrible. I know there was a theme of friendship, but my fanboish mindset only thought how spot on Sonic was to the character whom I grew up with. I think if they would’ve added more OG sounds, that would’ve been perfect. Also when Sonic started drowning, I think there was a hint of the OG drowning OST, not so sure unless I go on another sitting. I had to go to the bathroom as soon as the dance battle started and came back as soon as it ended so not sure how good or bad it was. The final act was great, it would’ve been perfect if they used SA2 Soundtrack, just imagine the Eggman soundtrack popping off as soon as Eggaman started creating his robot in the storm. With all this being said, that middle part with the double crossing agents was funny, it let me have a break from everything that was happening in the movie and I personally don’t think its as bad every reviewer I’ve seen describe it. It might’ve been the emotional connection that I have with my girlfriend, but I couldn’t help but laughing for the most part of that entire section.

Speaking of music, I wish they had played All Hail Shadow after the post credits scene

Sonic 2 soundtrack has Pantera on it. I call that a win, as a metalhead who loves Sonic

Keanu Reeves should voice Shadow the Hedgehog and Angelina Jolie should voice Rouge the Bat in Sonic the Hedgehog 3!

4:40 the track is Walk by Pantera lol

any "rock" fan or "metal" fan for that matter KNEW that tune was "Pantera" Robotnik was rocking too, baby~

I think in the third film sonic should out grow donut lord. He’s learn the lessons he needs. The next film might adapt SA2. So the sonic heroes need an antagonist. More time for eggman and shadow is necessary to stick the emotional landings. Donut lord won’t be able to fit in it sorry.

Honestly the movie was so good and the whole Rachel thing would’ve been fine if it was like a Quarter of what it was.

Keanu reeves as shadow!

Just saw it hours ago 8/10 loved it

"if you'd like, i can show you the way"

The beginning of the movie reminded me a lot of Sonic X more so than Adventure for some reason. I don't know in the theater me and my friend though that when watching the movie

In my opinion, the second film does some things better than the first, and the first does some things better than the second. Like what was that whole wedding thing about in Sonic 2? It just went from a Sonic film to a Comedy Relationship film. 🤷‍♂ There's also the issue of the dance scene in Siberia. I can get over the fact that they're doing this whole dance ting, but why aren't people confused about what looks like two talking animals walking on two feet? Does anyone in this comment section agree with me or am I just the only one here who felt this way? 🤔

I actually thought the Rachel rampage after the wedding was pretty funny. My friend and I were laughing out loud when she did the drift crash with the golfcart and got out like Arnold Schwarzenegger in "Terminator Genisys." I also think the long-term undercover operation was to help make the wedding bust not be exclusively Tom's fault. If it had been just that G.U.N. crashed it because of Sonic's appearance, then I think it would have seemed like it was all on Tom for causing that to happen. This version allowed the blame to fall on G.U.N. for using Rachel. So this pretty much was as good a Sonic movie as we could expect. The characters were well rounded out and the brotherly connection between Sonic and Tails I was very happy to see it get as much attention as it did. I have a mind for lore too so I expected the Chaos Emeralds to come out of the Master Emerald when the back story of the M.E. was explained. Thought Knuckles taking the dead shards and reforming the M.E. did surprise me and I thought was cool. I also didn't mind the use of Labyrinth Zone as the hiding place of the M.E. either. I grew up on the Archie Sonic comics so I'm more then use to stuff from the Sonic games being cherry picked and reused for different stories.

It would be so awesome if they could get Crush 40 to do some soundtracks for Sonic 3, especially after finding out what comes next from the post credit scene.

If the Sonic movies had only one live action character (Carrey) in a CGI animated world with CGI animated characters maybe it could have been something different.

"if you like, i can show you the way"

Oh when you were talking about music you forgot to mention they referenced the drowning theme

I couldn't agree more with you then what you said too all of your views and valid points from this movie is what exactly what I thought in my mind too of also keeping with the fairness and additions with the Sonic characters and humans of how it played out in the movie and even though I know and other Sonic fans have a problem with the wedding scene I honestly didn't mind it much like I understand why it dragged out too long and understand why Sonic fans or other reviews felt like it was unnecessary and shouldn't have been in the film but for me I'm honestly okay with it too even I know some people didn't like that Sonic and Tails we're in that cabin in cebera but I liked that scene too especially from what you said it even mainly works to build Sonic and Tails relationship better in the movie which I honestly it felt it worked perfectly for me too but glad to see a Sonic fan like yourself See's a good fairness that this movie delivered and I'm glad to have seen this twice with me seeing it the first time with my friends and then second time with my girlfriend and they all loved it!!! Sonic has always been a part of my life growing up and even though his games has not been doing great for the past decade at least I'm still deciated to just Sonic in general in my life and no what shape or form he takes in any kind of media I'm glad to see his popularity growing as best as he deserves it! 👍

The wedding scene was so funny 🤣

I would like to think that the people that come through the ring on the mushroom planet before Knuckles are Babylonians.

i wonder how ben shapeepoo would react to the sonic movie especially the sham wedding scene.

it will be an absolute crime if Crush 40 isn't in sonic 3. I mean the whole movie is gonna be about Shadow and SA2

i think the rachel part is the best scene of the movie but i think it ended very badly with the agent falling in love with her instead of her kicking is butt

I can’t wait to see it now,