Just gonna say couple of things about this camera after 50 days of using it. 1.st thing i noticed is that the 35mm mode is way better for shooting in low light abd every one knows it, i did a lot of action videos with it and i didn't notice that much of rolling shutter. 2. I've been shooting concerts in hot crowded places and other things with non stop in 4k and so far i'v NEVER had overheating problems. Yeah i understand those folks who are shooting in 34-40 degrees temperature outuside, but any camera can overheat in that temperature, Especially if you shoot non stop as one file, and IMPORTANT point. There is more chance for the camera to overheat if you are using a Slow memory card, because there is more information gets stuck in the bufer. 3. This is a PHOTO camera with a good video features, we all know that a7S is specialised for video, but the R serias are made for photos, we all know as example that the 1st A7R was better in photo but average in video comparing to a7S. Sony never said it is a camera for shooting sport events, this camera is for doing stills and portraits and landscape shots and artistic things, it was never designed for the fast movement, a6000 was. I'm pretty sire if this camera was DSLR with these specs it would've destroyed all the cameras on the market in terms of autofocus speed and etc. 4. At some points in low light the A7Rii is better than A7S up to 12800 Iso in 4K and that is great considering u have such a high amount megapixel sensor. 5. If you are doing video - do use Slog2, it is a really great thing to use and has a good dynamic range and there are amazing things you can get out of it. 6. Everyone keeps complaining about that record button, it is small, but seriously for me it's not a problem, its good that its there so you dont press it by mistake while doing photos. 7. Some people might not know but Sony officialy said that soon the firmwear update will come out and you will be able to shoot 14bit uncomressed raw what is great! 8. The battery life is always different, sometimes it can be great, sometimes not. For photography 2 batteries are more than enough for 3 photoshots, each out of 200-250 photos in raw+jpeg. For 4K video it is way better than i expected it to be. In HD it runs out of juce faster than in 4K... 9. There are a lot of settings to autofocus, be careful with that, some makes it quicker, some makes it sharper. 10. I work with a lot of people who are using Canon, and that a Fact that they are jealous as hell when they see al the things I can do and the image quality. Sony went way further ahead than all others. 11. Yes these camera might not be amazing in all the things, BUT - it is the best choice if you want to have BOTH - Photo and Video at the same time. In terms of photo quality it outperformce others for sure, in terms of video it does do the most, yes some people have overheating problems, but i'm sure it WILL be fixed with next Firmware for sure, like Sony did with their smartphones, this camera is best for doing Models Video shoots and Music videos or small video with short shots and Cinematic things, it's not for Long interviews, you don't need 4K for those. Overall for me it is the best Camera i could find out there, in terms of image quality and video. Thanks :)

Great review! Agree with everything, including the overheating issue being overblown. We haven't had any crashes, though... I hate when people say this, but maybe that's a problem with your copy? Re: noise in full-frame S-Log, it's so bad that we stopped using S-Log by default. Now, we only use it when we absolutely need the extra dynamic range. That holds true for the a7S, also.

thank you for the extensive research in these a7rii videos. you've covered everything i needed to hear as a professional. your videos are always useable, functional features, not just reading a list from the manufacturer; i really appreciate that.

Awesome jog guys and your new child is adorable Jordan ;) Thanks for all the in depth video information and analysis in particular and great commentary as always. Love the beard Chris, where it proudly my friend! Jay

I've been waiting for this review. Thanks for taking the time you needed to tell the whole story. Great review!

Nice job Jordan. Thanks for talking about rolling shutter, I didn't talk about that in my review at all. I have been running some battery tests between this and the a7s, and I am getting better battery life out of the a7rii, so it seems like Sony is getting their cameras to run more efficiently which is good direction.

Great vids guys thanks for the testing and opinions. I've been tempted to pull the trigger and switch for the last month. I've given up on Canon getting back in the game.

I enjoy your style of reviewing camera gear and especially the A7R II series recently. My gear is mostly Canon at the moment with no plans to switch (yet), but I am interested in seeing "hands on" reviews like these to keep up with developments. Good work guys, thanks.

I have the FS7 and i love it and now the A7rii and more then anything i love the ability to be able to do anything with the combo that pair well for my production. The updates are here and the date is 1.24.16 and i just want to say i feel INCREDIBLE!!!! Thanks Sony for being a trendsetter in technology. I am Happy Happy Happy. Find the gear that fits you and the things you want out of it, learn and apply daily and enjoy. Blessings everyone.

Great review Jordan, the segment with your son had me smiling!

Thank God PART 2!

It is a big investment - thank you for taking this much time to review all the details. All your opinions are valued by the viewers - heck no need to be PC! I'm not a film enthusiast but I watched it through because it's Jordan!!! Picture perfect baby also!

Great video as usual.

Dude you nailed that. For what was mostly a solo vid, that was really well done. Thanks. Thanks to both of you really. From us all the way down in New Zealand by the way ;)

Thanks for your honest & professional reviews. You guys always done great jobs. Hope Sony fix the issues you brought up about the short battery life, simplify the menu navigation, and I really want to see the intervalometer feature built-in the menu because hate having to carry that separately.

Great video guys! I can wait see what you think about the A7sII.

Big work !!! Good job guys, u're the best !

It will be interesting to see how this camera stacks up to the A7s II. Glad you didn't have any overheating issues- that's the one worry I had about the internal 4K. Great review, keep up the good work.

Thanks for another excellent review.

Great advice and info guys!

Great review guys

great job guys

good one guys...one of the best in you tube....@Jordan ,your kid is super cute.......

Great video. Thank you

Wonderful explanation. Always so nice to see great Canadian content as well. I've been shooting on the A7Rii for a month and could agree more. Have been surprised with the amount of noise in slog2 even at iso 800. That said I do love the full frame look especially with the slr Magic Anamorphot. I know it's silly but just feel ripped off shooting in s35. In your opinion would you shoot s35 and deal with the tragic rolling shutter or use noise reduction and shoot full frame?

So, right away, I see you had fun with your new toy. And, I'm not talking about the Sony.Regarding overheating, I often shoot (stills) in high heat during the summer. CT, FL, TN types of locations. When you add ambient temp in a normal summer, what about that?

Great review! Though as a one man band who likes stabilization systems, I wish there had been more footage of what the AF is like in video mode. Especially samples of the face detect.

I'm looking for my next camera. The A7RII is getting close, but sounds too complicated and quirky. I'm more into stills, but like video capability. I do appreciate your in depth reviews. Keep them coming. Thanks!!!

Ok. I finished watching. WELL DONE! One of the best presentations I have seen.This comment goes for part 1 & 2. I am going to have to SUBSCRIBE.

This was a very helpful review. It was well thought out and covered all the bases. I was strongly considering this camera as a B camera primarily for video work and I was hoping you would review it. I think I am going to pass on it now, not because it is bad, but because I don't think it is going to properly fill the gap I need to fill. I am an independent videographer who has to support a family on what I earn. I don't have money to throw away on cameras and gear so when I invest in something that doesn't live up to its promises, it is very painful. Your reviews provide a ton of valuable information and are greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Hi, thanks for this Video, do you can recomend a Camera for a backpacker (so it must be small, stabalist, especially for filming and good for sound (maybe a other plug?) would be nice to hear from you!

learn lots of from you. thank you for the videos. I am planning to buy Dynalite Baja B6 kit. I have sony 7sr II so its working with this camera, what trigger to be use?

Great review, guys! How long do you get to go on paternity leave in Canada? Here in Sweden I spent 8 months with my younglings :-)

Nice review chaps. Great use of timelapse. The overheating sounds random & quite off putting for professional use. I look forward to the A7s2 review

I agree. I use this camera for a month and half and i never had overheat problem! There must be something wrong with people who are getting that problem, or they are just GH4 and NX1 fan boys :)

Quirky but big time wow factor on the quality! You have mind blowing cropping power!

I am really thinking about upgrading from my Sony x100miv to the a7rll.. A question can one shoot pictures while in video mode without changing the menu dial. Or vise versa . Thank you

Thanks Jordan great camera ! Love mine . Think anyone looking to do anything long form should certainly use another camera like a C100 or XDCAM type camera. This camera is for sexy, broll, landscape type stuff in my opinion. Haven't taken the 4k for the big ride but will follow your lead here. So used to the A7s in evening highlight. Thx for the testing!

Hi great video! question: when shooting video do you go in movie mode or manual or another mode?

Is there a big advantage with using the Shogun vs internal 4K? Does the IBIS work with Canon glass using metabones adapter? Can IBIS and the lens IS work together?

Wow looks like a gret camera to shoot with!

what charger do you use to charge the camera via usb? Ill be doing lots of shooting in my room, so I don't care about portability- so that set up would work well for me.

for me the eye focus for stills along with the IBIS with fast primes are the features that excites me the most about the A7r ll, but I hear the eye focus is only with the native glass witch is a let down. also the sensors dynamic range is great, I still wish it had a fully articulating touch screen, and it's disappointing that I don't hear you guys pushing hard for that also. but the A7r ll is an amazing camera. but I still find myself holding off buying one. i'm always hoping for perfection, but no company ever gives it to me haha, so I might just wait for the A7r lll, or just see what else comes out soon, but my problem is I always seem to be waiting for what's around the corner hoping it's going to blow me away, instead of enjoying what's out now, but I do have my 5Dlll, but I am getting impatient for the next A6100 or A7100 and also the X pro 2, they seem to be taking forever, also an XT2, and a 5D4, and I'm really getting impatient waiting for Canon and Nixon to put out a FF mirrorless camera, or even a great apsc mirrorless, they are already like five years behind Sony, and I wish that Samsung, Olympus, Fuji, and even Panasonic would start going full frame ( lately my comments always seem to be rite behind Dave Dugdale haha ) hi Dave

I had to comment on this video after my experiences over the last month with this camera. I have to agree with many, pretty much all points that y'all bring up. First, when I got the camera, I did extensive testing with it before going into a professional situation. Internal and external recording with the atomos shogun, handheld, gimbal, dolly movements in super 35 and FF. Low light, high contrast, magic hour, silhouette, you name it. It crushed it, outside of low light(motion work). Zero overheating issues, battery life did suck but if you plan accordingly its not that devastating, especially coming from a cinema pedigree, where almost all high end cameras are battery vampires. The menus are hilariously bad. I chuckle now, if not, rage and I must go smash. So, feeling confident, I brought the cam onto a three day job, first setup, 3 takes in, it dies. It dies badly, Sony rep had no idea what the hell happened either. Luckily I had my Red on standby and moved forward. Got a new body, only to see the A7sii announcement the next morning. Bitter to say the least. Decided to keep the camera and use on a music video project. It really is a two faced camera. Under very stressful mixed light situations, it performed terrifically, outside great, under tungsten great, daylight fluorescents awesome. At moderate high iso situations(1600+), it performed like crap and the codec internally and externally broke down in devastating ways. Some of the worst I've seen in years. Especially in the shadows, looked like flip camera garbage. The main problem is not that there is noise, it's that the info gets thrown out and becomes mud. Like the camera can't keep up, even when I was recording out to the Shogun and kept internal recording off. Totally and utterly jacked. Both in 4K and 1080p, regular and high speed. My mind is still bottled. Now this is for video, with stills, you can push the iso with good glass. Stills on this thing is what has made me keep it. Christmas pants Georgia, does this thing make incredibly sharp stills. Motion though, Christ punching Carl I couldn't get any love in lowish light situations. Add a strobe light, I know about rolling shutter and remember I'm stress testing, the codec might as well committed suicide. I know this is not a $65.000 cinema camera with a global shutter with a 200MB data pipeline but it should be able to accomplish tasks that many older tech based cameras can handle. I have never had such a love hate relationship with a camera. I didn't expect this thing to be end all be all but heck I didn't think I would look at it suspect as if I knew it was stealing money from me but I don't say anything because it's so damn pretty and fun to be with in public. Phew, needed that. Thanks again for taking the time to publish the vid, tons of great and extremely important info for anyone looking to purchase. If you ever need anyone who likes to make it weird for everyone, let me know.

Thanks alot for this video, im a nub on video but i bought the a7Rii. If i want to make my clips in slow-motion... is it best then to shoot the video in 1080p Full HD 60p, super 35mm?

You didn't talk much about lens choices for the Sony. I'm considering buying the a7R II with Sony's 24-240mm lens for a starter. What are your thoughts about that choice as an all-around lens?

I'm not sure where to go from this, I've been using APS-C cameras for years and I'm not missing out on much, I'm looking to retire my Canon 7D, I've been looking at mirror less and completely lost I was thinking either the A7R11 or Fuji X-T1, both great cameras and great stills output, I'm not into video are there better cameras out there other than the two I've mentioned?

I think this is one of the best reviews on any Sony Mirrorless cameras. There is only one thing I disagree with. To say that no Por would use it is a huge generalization that does not hold the reality. I am a pro and I know many pro that has switched to the Sony system for professional work and are extremely happy with it. I think it would be more proper to say that, depending the use or preferences and commitment to current system, it will determine if the switch or not. That's to say that, like with any camera, usage and preference would determine the right camera. I don't think it has to be an either/or proposition. It can be both. I have used Nikon for 38 years now and shoot weddings and portraits for a living (full time). I love my Nikon as well as my Sony mirrorless cameras. Each one has their quirks and issues that require you to get use to it. ONE great benefit from learning to use the Sony is that it makes you slow down and be more determined and focus about your shooting. And that is a great thing. So, great review. I just do not totally agree with your conclusion about pros.

so in crop mode .. can i use canon efs lens with adaptor?

Best reviews on youtube! Congrats on the baby Jordan, he's a beauty! My main issue with the camera is the rolling shutter in s35 mode. It's suppose to be better, is in some ways but the rolling shutter is terrible. There is no mode to use without some issue so in my book, unusable professionally. I wonder if Sony have done it on purpose to make you buy the a7s as well... I will hold off for the a7s. If it has full frame 4K with minimal rolling shutter I will buy it.

Do you think some of the issues will be fixed by firmware (if not already)?

@TheCameraStoreTV You can't say the overheating is being blown out of proportion. I got to max 6 minutes with it at a time while shooting a pilot for a doccie series. Maybe in Canada it's not an issue but in South Africa it has very limited use for profession jobs. That being said, absolutely loved the camera, and hopefully the issue is fixed with the A7S2.

Which one would you take? The A7II or the A7RII using it for family/kids, landscape, low-light photography and video on parties. Thanks for your reply.

firmware will fix some stuff hopefully but i can't wait to buy this. saving up right now

for the overheating i'd dive more into the memory card used. Slower cards I would guess triggers the buffer more and therefore causes more overheating. For the S35 mode, I found it noisy in 1080p. So the S35 mode is not bullet proof. I don't shoot in 4K so 1080p would be important to me.

Lens recommendations for the A7 line?

Do you think I should buy this one or wait for the unconfirmed 'A7R Mark III'?

I found that the lowlight performance on (Super 35 4K) is so much nicer comparing with (Super 35 1080p)!! The Super 35 1080p has got a lot more noise :)

thanks .Have you or will you test the camera with metabones speedbooster? That will give you a extra stop and a ff''ísh fov. This would in theory mean you come closer to the allegedly 2 stops more sensitive a7sii...and you get ff field of view ( almost ) while not getting the mentioned problems with the ff video mode...?

Do you drive an 18 wheeler now Chris? ;-)

when is the fs5 review coming?:D

the question to be asked for me is if it can be fully controlled over wifi remote app for video...

the footage you showed as an example of moire produced by the camera showed moire produced by overlapping fabric, which would be visible no matter what camera you used or even just looking at it in person with your own eyes. if there was any moire in that footage produced by the camera, i couldn't see it, at least at 1080p.

Jordan, what about the fact that both a7R2 and a7S2 shoot fullHD only @ 50Mb/s? I hope to be wrong but that's all I could find in the menu... If that's so, it's kind of ridiculous, especially compared to the astonishing 200Mb/s of the GH4... Or the 176 Mb/s of a much older hacked GH2!! Please tell me I am wrong...

So Leica SL review Oct 20?

So Jordan, For video ... sell the A7S and buy the A7RII (or wait for the A7SII) OR invest in a Atamos Ninja Assassin? Thanks, Rick

did you use a external recorder for the second part of the first review video? the image was really beautiful

12:35-12:39 the most hilarious change in skin tone and saturation on his forehead XD

From my experience with the Sony a7 there is overheating and auto shutdown, even with cool weather, after 40-50 minutes of continuous shooting at any birate, resolution or with APS-C crop mode video. That problem was fixed with the second generation of a7 series. For Sony a7 owners some smart solutions with overheating are: _The movement of the display backwards which permits more air to the back of the camera. _The use of a dummy battery connected to an external battery or power adaptor. The real battery inside the camera becomes warm with constant video shooting and increases the whole temperature of the camera. _A tripod is better than handheld shooting. The hands are warm and make the camera more hot. Also with tripod more air reaches the bottom of the camera. _Use the viewfinder instead the back display if it's convenient. The viewfinder consumes less energy and increases less the temperature.

I'm no expert, but do you think if Sony makes a new and faster processor, that would get rid of the rolling shutter ? I mean, the sensor readout time is going to be so fast, almost instant, so when you move the camera the pixels would have already been read, so there would be no jelly effect.

great "shots" of your kid... finally got to finish this vid

Thx guys. As a pro. It would drive me crazy being on a shoot. With clients. Talent. Etc and the camera shuts down.

I'm so glad that I hesitated and then declined to purchase this camera. They are getting close but the issues, such as the menu, would drive me crazy....Thanks

I really like your summery about how the A7RII is really a hobbyist dream machine. This seems to be a theme that is developing finally. All the tech nuts are busy prophesying the mirror-less revolution killing the DSLR. But the Pro's are keeping with what they know works. I think it will be telling when Nikon and Canon introduce a serious mirror-less camera not the current R&D beta products. Then the tech will be ready and it will be worth the upgrade then. Your video quality is top notch.

what len is on the a6000?

Just a note, The first example of moire and aliasing wasn't in camera. It was real life. Im sitting next to a curtain just like that and that's what it looks like. No camera needed.

4:16 nice movie collection :)

I've had this camera since 31 July and in general, I've not encountered any of the issues that you have. OK, I'm not a pro using it day in day out. I've always believed that the overheating issue was blown out of proportion by people online who like to find fault. Got both the Batis on Tuesday and am loving the 25mm f2

I would appreciate comments on silent shutter mode and changes in image quality. ...under low light conditions with moving objects :-)

Canon main menu system has little icons that at least give you a clue as to what is underneath that selection. Sony main menu system has numbers and this where the frustration starts. You have to look and learn what that number provides. However the 42Mpx Full Frame BSI Image Stabilized sensor is a major temptation for an enthusiast like me but I am hesitant to invest money in a system that is not guaranteed to work well in most situations with my heavily invested glass.

does the camera take adventage of high megapixel count in 4k video mode by implementing lossless digital zoom? 4k is approximately 8mpx, so the camera should be able to give at least x5 of lossless digital zoom in 4k mode and x20 in 2k mode!

I've seen this camera overheat consistently during live tests. It may have a smaller incidence than we suspect. But there have been enough reports from legitimate sources that I don't think it's 'overblown'. What would be best is if Sony would make a definitive statement so we know exactly what's going on. Not saying anything is pretty inexcusable.

The Windows XP of cameras? What? You surely mean Windows ME or Vista? XP was awesome! :P

Let me know when they get that new battery firmware update. What do you think in about a month?

According to B&H, the A7 is selling more than 5D and D750. I do agree that Sony still has to fix some issues, like menus and other inconsistencies, 4K crop, etc, but DSRLs will become obsolete in the near future (5 to 7 years tops). Canon rumors suggest a FF mirrorless for 2016... Who knows, but it would not surprise me to finally see some FF mirrorless competition from Canon and Nikon by 2017.

congratulations from China! Jordan's son is really cute

Does FF or Super35 mode AND 60Mbs or 100Mb make a difference to over-heat issues? I've had my A7Rll overheat on FF 100Mb. Never had the RX10ll overheat though. Both cameras were being used handheld. On a side note, the batteries, I've noticed they get extremely hot during a shoot on the RX10ll, I was running the RX10ll in 85 degree plus weather, direct sunshine and the batteries felt very hot when they came out of the camera, but never a hick-up on the RX10ll. Interesting topic, great camera, but there's a serious learning curve on the A7Rll.

oooo this baby.....

Very decent couple of videos on this camera. I was fortunate to get my own copy the week they arrived in Canada and have used it for over a month now. Overall I love the camera though the battery life is horrible and the menus suck (and this is coming from a long time Sony shooter since 2009!). Recently I did a series of interviews indoors and used this camera along with the RX10II... the second day of shooting it was very hot inside and my camera overheated a number of times after about 20-25 minutes. It was embarrassing... and yes, I had pulled the display screen away from the body to displace heat. Ironically, I thought that the RX100II was the better camera as it NEVER OVER-HEATED and delivered equally superb 4K image quality (I had used four Manfrotto LED's to illuminate the interview subjects).

Well I know what I'm saving up for

could you guys do a video testing chromakeying with the a7rII because nobody seems to care about green screen in the 21 century when testing cameras. 85% of movies are made using this technique.

In general, who has the user friendliest menu system in your opinion? I, who just came out of the point and shoot world, only have Nikon D5300 and Sony a5100, and don't have much knowledge to compare between the brands. I've been taking the Sony's just as "this is the way DSLR cameras are." I'd like to make it one of the considerations when I buy a next camera.

Battery life? just buy more batteries. Menu? Pretty sure they will come with a firmware update that will fix it if we keep complaining in the reviews (hopefully ehehe). Just the idea to crank up the shadows with the amazing dynamic range sold me on this camera. Thanks again for these tests guys! You're the best! :D

Is this camera still relevant in 2019?

Who's that trucker in the second half of the video?

I don't get why you guys didn't cover fps.

Chris with a beard. 10/10

5:29 Is his shirt pink or red? Or is the door red? What is my life?

+TheCameraStoreTV - @Jordan - Every frame a painting...? Sorry I love your videos, but your easy chair footage framing... well even I can think of ways to improve it. Re-overheating - you live in the tundra or close enough. It's spring here and it was 36C today. We're still a month or two off summer. I don't think the problem is over internet - ed, but possibly more prevalent in warm climates?

Great but quirky, like a rare sportscar. Well that sounds like my cup of tea!