Sony A7Rii vs Canon 5Dsr Epic Shootout | Which Camera to Buy Tutorial

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Update: The 5DSR does not have built in wifi. This is my mistake. It is "wifi compatible" for file transfer with the WFT-E7. I apologize for this.
Having shot with both of these cameras now for over 6 weeks, this is the very best information I can give you about them. Ive done my best to trim down the length, but if you are serious about investing into either one of these cameras, this will be worth your time.
Chapter List:
02:29 - Lenses Used in Tests
02:59 - Metabones IV Adapter with Canon Lenses
05:05 - Rack Focus Test
06:47 - Side-To-Side Action Servo Test
07:07 - Forward Action Servo Test
07:19 - Backlight Servo Test
08:23 - Buffer Performance
11:06 - Low Light Focusing
12:53 - Face Detection
15:52 - Eye Detection
17:03 - High ISO Stills
18:15 - High ISO Video
20:31 - Moire
20:57 - Rolling Shutter
21:27 - Heat Signature Tests
23:37 - Dynamic Range
23:52 - Portrait Test
26:34 - High ISO Sharpness Test
32:10 - Things I didn't like about the Sony A7Rii
35:17 - Conclusion
My Sony A7rii Tutorial Training Video is already available: canontrainingvideo.com/index.p...
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@Kprawl291986 8 жыл бұрын

The Intro got me laughing when you grab 6 sony A7RII batteries 😂

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

:) you got my joke!

@Kprawl291986 8 жыл бұрын

I cannot wait for to review the new D5 and Canon 1Dx Mark II that will be ultimate stress test.

@supertimotije 8 жыл бұрын

+ACiD_ “Th3xRaVeNx” ReinX I know I'm 2 months late, but I'm not a subscriber, but that 6 batteries... Still laughing.

@EmoEmu 8 жыл бұрын

"It funny because it's true!" - Homer Simpson

@JohnLenardWalson 7 жыл бұрын

i use the camera on the moon with a main power battery

@TonyAndChelsea 8 жыл бұрын

Look at you all cinematic in that opening sequence! Great vid, Michael.

@petersagi275 8 жыл бұрын

+Tony Northrup Whats up with the high ISO performance in stills, Tony? I don't know which one of you to believe!! :D

@pentaxbro 8 жыл бұрын

According to Dpreview and many others the Sony A7Rii has better low light capability than Canon 5Dsr!(Check the iso12800 the DP studio scene like the shoes & blue trausers in the centre of the scene in low light for example)Also If you look carefuly at your comparison images at iso 12800 you will see that Sony has focused on the hair rather than on models eye..That doesn't change however the fact the the colors of Canon are better in general and photos slightly sharper in good light.

@Jessehermansonphotography 7 жыл бұрын

I thought the Sony was sharper. I saw the cheek issue they are talking about but the eye was OBVIOUSLY sharper on the video.

@kennethwilliamsinc 8 жыл бұрын

Great comparison! It's just SO crazy how far we have come with photography tech. I'm speaking coming from a film background. Now it's just basically pick what fits your style of shooting and ergonomics.

@mv.m.5339 8 жыл бұрын

This is a video that I have been so waiting for! Very extensive!

@ChimedBadral 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for an excellent review. Tons of good information. Looking forward to your new videos.

@blueckaym 8 жыл бұрын

Wow, that is indeed an EPIC shootout! I'm amazed at to what details, and methodology of measuring and comparing performances of the cameras! Most people can learn a LOT about photography just by watching one of your 'comparison' videos Michael! I'm a guy that REALLY hate cross-selling in general, but after this video I do actually consider the 'a7rII crash-course'!

@razorback7828 8 жыл бұрын

Your portrait test is the most awesome thing I ever see! What a good idea!!!

@1BigBucks1 8 жыл бұрын

Sweet shootout, Michael. Really informative.

@MarceloTezza 8 жыл бұрын

Excelent Michael! Most complete, less biased, congrats! highly recomended! liked and favorited

@samueldcabral 8 жыл бұрын

This is simply great. Very extensive and detailed. Amazing video as always

@ansontow89 8 жыл бұрын

so much effort put into making these detailed comparison. *applause*

@dayanandrahul1125 8 жыл бұрын

one if the best reviews I've ever seen.....detailed and executed perfectly

@ericwongestu5099 7 жыл бұрын

the review i like the most, accurate and honest with proof to show to the audiences, and the most important is, coolest intro i have ever seen on camera review. Great Review !!

@knopfman184 8 жыл бұрын

This is so extensive and well made, I can't imagine all the hard work you did. Although you did it without bias, I can see you're pretty excited about A7R II.

@NeilFiertel 6 жыл бұрын

This site is the very best technical and user oriented camera comparison that a user can make decisions from. He works very hard to really test fairly and I rarely watch all the way through most other's KZfaq as they are opinionated and amateur. This one was terrific.

@wayne78910 8 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review , you put a lot of hard in absolutely brilliant!!!!

@mikaelschulin4315 8 жыл бұрын

Best Review and comparison between the two so far.

@avazara 8 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael- great tutorial! Really useful tests-especially the portrait test! Thanks so much- you do a great job!

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ava!

@justinholding02 8 жыл бұрын

At last a honest and full review, I'm glad to see that the 5DSR actually can keep up with the Sony's ISO performance, we've been hearing the opposite since the Sony was released. Seems to me the Canon is a lot more mature.

@harmitharmit 8 жыл бұрын

Great videos.we appreciate your efforts! Thank you!

@Americannorsk1 5 жыл бұрын

Love the video Michael. Your videos are excellent. Thank you for the excellent review.

@beavertown2006 8 жыл бұрын

Well worth the waiting. Your channel so addictive.

@vdan2879 8 жыл бұрын

Great work Michael! Super like your vids. Nobody on the tube has more info than your head to head shootouts.

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support- there are a lot of great channels out there so it means a lot to me to hear that

@MrMuseMusician 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Best video shootout. Amazing amount of information.

@TheIronValkyrie 8 жыл бұрын

This video is brilliant!!! You've earned a sub!

@Tardonis 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative , as always. Thanks

@elvis_chen 8 жыл бұрын

Very nice review! Especially the real cases

@MikeSpille 8 жыл бұрын

Very well done review and comparison. Thank you so much.

@ComePlayWithMe 8 жыл бұрын

Great review ! Thanks!

@topcow23 8 жыл бұрын

Great video, I love the straight to the point but details comparison

@thomaswindfeld728 7 жыл бұрын

That was like the best and deeeeepet in depth video I have seen on here,,, and have seen many bu now. Thanx! :-)

@mohammedal-faraj123 7 жыл бұрын

Great video, it is really helps me to decide which camera i have to own, thank you very much for your efforts

@mobileperry 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the excellent review of both cameras, well produced and full of useful info. I'm leaning towards the 5dsr but waiting to see what canon has in the 5dmk4 whenever it's announced

@chrisaminick 7 жыл бұрын

Best and most thorough camera review I've ever watched. I have a Canon 40D, which is obviously dated, and I have five expensive EF L lenses that could work on this camera with an adapter, but I'm looking for touch-screen controls, an easy to use wifi feature that works like my Note 4 does in sharing videos. Canon just introduced the 5D Mark IV, but it doesn't have an articulating screen, has low resolution, has complicated wifi, and average focus capabilities and still has anti-aliasing built in that softens images too much. Thanks for the great review.

@Grilcantino 8 жыл бұрын

Excellent tutorial. Thanks.

@worldsmack 8 жыл бұрын

That into... Was... AWESOME!!!! 😀

@proximabear1432 8 жыл бұрын

I waited for this review to drop before purchasing the Sony. Thanks for being so thorough and unbiased. always nice to see the facts as opposed to the opinions.

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend. I'm honored you waited, I really try to present the data and let my viewers come to their own conclusions.

@proximabear1432 8 жыл бұрын

Got the camera... I am in love with it!

@spikedesignworks 8 жыл бұрын

excellent in-depth video. Kudos!

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sam

@erikpopek9357 8 жыл бұрын

Great job on this video! :D I really liked that I got to see for myself which picture I liked the most! Very original and great for us to skip the names and only look at quality! For me, the results were 6 vs 6 :)

@bozziovai 8 жыл бұрын

i just love watching your videos. thanks for all the effort ......

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

My pleasure and thank you for your support

@kgavero 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for a thorough review. Wow, I'm surprised I selected all of the Sony pics in the blind test! I'm usually close to even on your Canon vs. Nikon tests. Maybe it's time to rent a Sony A7rii.

@bird271828 8 жыл бұрын

Michael, very nice and informative video as always. I know it's not easy to make these videos. I appreciate your work.

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

@pentaxbro 8 жыл бұрын

@zaruka 7 жыл бұрын

I went with the Canon 5DS R. This is a good review, thanks.

@FloatingOnAZephyr 8 жыл бұрын

An exceptional video of its kind. Personally, I'd dial down the graphics a little, but so informative and thorough.

@Garabagh 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comparison!

@pracquet 8 жыл бұрын

Love the intro! Good job!

@evagabrielle1983 8 жыл бұрын

Great work MichaelTheMentor!!

@ObelixCMM 8 жыл бұрын

Great review Michael! I was surprised that Mark found Sony viewfinder at X .78 magnification smaller than Canon at X .71

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Me too. I think he felt that way for all the display information that was up on the screen at the time, as it skirts the outer border, makes it feel smaller. Easy to turn off, and always strange when using a new system

@ObelixCMM 8 жыл бұрын

MichaelTheMentor Makes sense, I usually have simple display in EVF

@vitaliygnatenko4832 8 жыл бұрын

Very well balanced review, great job, though some important features of the A7RII could be addressed in more detail - MUCH smaller size (great for e.g. street photography especially with silent shutter), internal image stabilization (just mentioned) and ability to use almost any lens via available adapters (with stabilization!). For many photographers, those could be quite the points.

@Mrshyamalk 8 жыл бұрын

Thoroughly informative nd detailed video. Gr8 work @MichaeltheMemtor

@karl5874 8 жыл бұрын

Sony 9, Canon 3. I was surprised. Great review as always :)

@paulooopify 8 жыл бұрын

one more extraordinary review from Michaelthementor.. Lots of thumbs up and shares needed people 👍

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you Paul - the shares and likes are the exact reason why I keep making these!

@flyassqbn 7 жыл бұрын

great informative video!

@luiscarlos1287 8 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@sonnyblack4198 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you mike great job!!!!

8 жыл бұрын

Awesome test! Can i ask you if you have a Sony with newest 2.0 firmware and if not, can this change even anything in tests?

@monishbansal 8 жыл бұрын

another nice shootout!, can you please do one for printers? I'm looking into getting a printer to print my own pictures as a enthusiast and have more control over them. no idea which one would be good. also, would be cool to see a 5Dsr vs D810/A.

@leonphotography1009 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review, thanks for the guidance. Pls I would appreciate a Sony a99ii image quality review with canon 5dsr. Good job

@user-ym6lc7pk1e 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic comparison. Thank you. For street photography which camera would you recommend if I already have lots of EF lens?

@jqueryrocks 8 жыл бұрын

This is a real review test, seriously.

@CarloMario 7 жыл бұрын

you are a professor. super video.

@14lou 8 жыл бұрын

An objective, thorough and as fair a shootout as one could hope for, a lot of hard work well done and greatly appreciated. Good idea for the quiz, my scoring was 7/12 in favour of the A7RII

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support lou

@DanishSpaceman 8 жыл бұрын

Amazingly well done review. Congrats! I would expect that the high iso performance would be better on the Sony and other review speak highly of the Sony metering and AWB (but maybe Canon is even slightly better). Did you try to use native Sony lenses while doing the high iso portraits? Maybe it is also worth trying the uncompressed RAW option that was just delivered in a firmware upgrade with the Sony.

@frederik_holmgren 8 жыл бұрын

Hey Michael, love the video. In regard to having the viewfinder function as an optical viewfinder. What I do on my A7 is that that I turn Live View Display settings to Off. Then the camera doesn't have to process the image to the viewfinder as much. On the A7 its in menu gear.2.Live View Display. You talked about Eye-Af being awesome for portrait shooters. I would have loved to hear your friends (the portrait guy in the video) opinion about that. :)

@kriXoff75 8 жыл бұрын

nice review, thanks very much.

@bayusampurno 8 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for the video, very useful for me ...

@chrisogrady28 8 жыл бұрын

I love how unbelievably tacky all the graphics are, it's like shouting I AM A MAN periodically in an otherwise civilised presentation haha. Awesome video Michael

@fabianbuschor8826 8 жыл бұрын

This is a very informative review! I was a bit surprised at the lack of sharpness in the studio scene for the Sony at high ISO. Was this a 'JPG out of camera' comparison?

@marendradika 2 жыл бұрын

Just watched and still helpful

@StargateMax 8 жыл бұрын

Those 12 comparison images... 10 out of 12 I liked A7R II before I saw the results, and that's the camera I have. :D

@PieterBreda 8 жыл бұрын

excellent review

@akaiphone 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing review!!! Question for you. I shoot weddings with EOS R and 5D3. 5D3 image quality is trash compared to the R and makes editing pictures hard, would you recommend the 5DSR if I can’t afford the 5D4?

@talshay12 7 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks

@amirleon996 7 жыл бұрын

Well done review

@sandyp123 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great review. Another plus for the Sony is the weight and size, which makes it much easier and more comfortable to carry and hold. While this may not apply to everyone, it does to me.

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

That Definitely a huge plus that I didn't mention. This size and weight reduction over DSLR bodies and lenses is significant.

@ERP_Klim 8 жыл бұрын

Got A7RII, Fantastic Camera! Can do any types of genres with it and film making as well.

@RonnelCuison 8 жыл бұрын

Best real life review. :)

@mibo747 5 жыл бұрын

PERFECT REVIEW !

@mibo747 5 жыл бұрын

still watching and at the end is even "more PERFECT" Its clear on portrait numbers that Canon have less dynamic range

@isabelladavis1363 8 жыл бұрын

Going insane trying to decide if I want to take the plunge for this amazing camera...Michael with out a doubt the most comprehensive videos I've seen on the Sony versus the canon...As a portrait photographer I chose the Canon comparisons ...11 out of 12 for the canon...the color for the Sony did look quite orange almost...but then every monitor is different.I was quite surprised but as you have shown us it does offer so much more...possibly they will come out with a firmware update to improve some of those issues... I have the Nikon D700 which I love but not the weight and size...decisions decisions..when I do decide I will certainly come here for the crash course....thank you for what I felt was an honest comparison..

@AstroPinoy 8 жыл бұрын

11 out of 12 I picked Sony A7r2.. I own only canon lens, I was about to consider 5DSR but after the test, I am glad I have the A7R2..

@cdave2006 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the 12 comparaison test. I got 11 to 12 for the canon. It's just so personnal but I just love the look of canon. I was really considering switching according to test like DXO provides, but really theory is something to put in practice. Thank you very much and sorry for my average english.

@stanleyzheng3408 8 жыл бұрын

Great Video, thank you..

@telemaq76 8 жыл бұрын

thanks for your great work.I m surprised by iso test. 5dsr is not that bad.

@gauravsawn 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you soooo much!

@carbon6372 5 жыл бұрын

I got 9 Canon and 3 Sony in the blind test. I currently use a Canon 6D, and I’m about to get a Sony A7R II. Not sure if I regret this, or if I should upgrade to another Canon. This camera body will mainly be used for architecture, landscapes and sometimes events.

@zheina740 8 жыл бұрын

Nice location choice! I live just down the street lol!

@JimenezFernando 8 жыл бұрын

Awesome Video !!!!!

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you Fernando!

@wesleyhyun 8 жыл бұрын

You will want to use the LA-EA3 with the 7RII instead of the 4. The AF system can support phase detection for A-mount lenses on it's own.

@benhatto 5 жыл бұрын

I have shot with the a7r iii, but unfortunately not the 5dsr. I LOVE the a7r iii. It is a truly amazing camera.

@AlexandreRacine 8 жыл бұрын

Fair review.

@mrtonysantos 8 жыл бұрын

awesome comparo

@ingo2835 5 жыл бұрын

Really interesting review. Especially because a lot of people say it has a slow AF. Would a A7 II perform similar?

@multisimple 8 жыл бұрын

mannnn subscribed!

@chriszekes6415 8 жыл бұрын

Michael: This is really really really well done. Love the chapter list. I looked a both bodies and bought the Canon before I saw your video. I have two 1DX bodies and do mostly action photography. However been doing lots more landscape so that is why I considered both of these. The main reason I went with Canon is because of their CPS Service...second to none. Heard Sony Service is poor and slow. Also was told the Sony warranty is void if you clean the sensor yourself. I haven't verified this. A friend bought one a month ago and already has sensor spots. Apparently this is an issue with mirrorless cameras, in general, with frequent lens changes. My friend also lost her lens hood and Sony offers no replacement part. She eventually found one on Ebay for $80. If someone is looking for low light capability like a Canon 1DX or 5D Mark III then the 5DS R is not for you. Go with Sony. Just thought I would jot down my thoughts. Again wonderful video !!!!!

@philindeblanc 7 жыл бұрын

This is the great differnece between the 2! Yes, I sent device to Sony for repair, and they couldn't do it. A week later I was offered a refurb to buy to REPLACE! Canon service to me in the 10 years CPS and standard have been super! Sometimes pricey, but super. If its a second body for travel and light use, I can see the Sony being OK. But if you need to service it, good luck!

@jeffer8762 8 жыл бұрын

holy crap, i choosed 10 pic from 5dsr and 2 pic from a7r2. I wan to know what mode you shoot those pic in ? The result differ alot from what I testing with my canon 6D vs my A7r2

@pauloneil1969 8 жыл бұрын

Great review - I own both and just traded in 2 5D3s to own a 2nd 5DSR. I picked 6 Sony and 6 5DSR pictures - but for me picture #9 (b) shows why the Sony is so good. If I could trust the Sony for everything, I would convert over - but it isn't there yet so owning both for weddings is my current setup. If you have good light, the Sony with a 24-70 F2.8 II is the PERFECT wedding ceremony camera - great colours, cropability, silent shooting mode. For natural light portraits, the 135L is fantastic on the Sony - fantastic. OCF Bridal portrait with a 70-200 F2.8 IS II or Sigma 24-105 F4 OS - you can't beat the 5DSR. Anything fast moving or tracking I would never, ever trust the Sony - ever; in fact, the Canon 7D2 (same pixel density as the 5DSR) is my goto Camera for action wedding stuff with the Canon 70-200 F2.8 IS II. For anything but weddings I take the A7Rii - for weddings, I take both.

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

Great insight- I find it hard not to want to take the A7rii for most shoots because of the DR and resolution, but wouldn't consider it for serious sports shooting

@TerroMin 8 жыл бұрын

Very, very nice comparsion!!! :) For the future test - sport shooting with A7, 5D and D810... A7 whith AF and old MF lenses - does it really so imported fast autofocus?!

@tptrsn 8 жыл бұрын

WOW!!! That is an amazing comparison you did there, I hope the 80D vs. a6300 comparison is even half as good. One question, what camera/lens/video setting did you use for the outdoor walk n' talk part of your video at the beginning and end? There are some issues with the compression of it that I have suffered from when shooting 4K outdoors on sharp lenses with my GH4.

@MMaven 8 жыл бұрын

It was a gh4 on a pilot fly gimbal

@tptrsn 8 жыл бұрын

MichaelTheMentor As I suspected. Thanks! By the way, I think you probably want to shoot in 4K, but I have found that for walk n' talks like that where there is a lot of detail in the frame, the 1080p60 All-I 200Mbps provides a much better looking product on KZfaq (when rendered and uploaded as 60fps anyway)... GH4 action shots in 4K that are rendered and uploaded as 4K don't seem to work well with KZfaq's compression.