Sony ECM-B1M vs ECM-M1 | Best Mic for Sony Shooters

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Sony ECM-B1M vs ECM-M1 | Best Mic for Sony Shooters

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Paul Feinberg

Күн бұрын

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@frannavas3700 Жыл бұрын

While using ultra-wide lenses, and the talent mouth is barely attached to the mic, both mics sound great. It would be useful to test how both mics perform when using longer lens focal distances (35 to 50mm) and the talent is more distant to the mics

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

I was shooting these at about 2 feet away from the camera and mic not super close not super far. Any mic the closer you are they sound better. In the future I should add some further away distances test. Thanks for watching

@pixelplaytelevision Жыл бұрын

It sounds good. And it did pretty good at blocking out that wind. I saw the trees moving alot in the background.

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

I will say it does a better job of blocking the wind vs ecm-b1m. I think the ecm-b1m sounds slightly better when the M1 is in Ultra mode is sounds close. If I was buying one or the other today I would probably buy the M1. I was going to sell my ecm-b1m and upgrade but decided to keep the b1m.

@ChristyAlexander1 7 ай бұрын

so helpful especially using the example with you walking around the mic thank you for the info!

@PaulFeinberg 7 ай бұрын

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!

@angwk 11 ай бұрын

ECM-M1 sounds pretty much like ECM-B10, the sound is slightly thinner compared with ECM-B1M, but still high quality though. On the other hand, ECM-B1M sounds fuller with slight more bass and therefore i think it has better sound quality. ECM-B1M also potentially has better range than ECM-M1. I know ECM-B1M beats ECM-B10 in terms of range because I compared them before. I do like ECM-M1 for its more varieties of sound modes, making it a way more versatile and also lesser handling noise compared to ECM-B1M.

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

Pretty much spot on with everything. M1 did seem to have less handling noise. Of course probably due to the size and that it does balance well due to the design.

@worldoftony469 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this Paul. I also watched Kyle's video. I've been using a Rode VideoMic GO II. I LOVE IT when I'm in front of the camera but it sounds pretty dull on my ZVE1. The reason I'm getting it is because of the front/rear option along with the channels 3 and 4. Thanks for doing this!

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

You will love having no cables and that auto mode is just so awesome. No thinking about levels or anything is super nice. The rode sounds amazing but all the conveniences make the sony mics so awesome. Enjoy! Thanks for watching both Kyle and I’s channel!

@AdamOuellette-ek5vl 11 ай бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg can you use this mic and the mic input at the same time? Meaning, could i run a L/R lav into the mic input while the shotgun is attached?

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

@@AdamOuellette-ek5vl no once you plug in the ECM mics to the hotshoe the mic input is disabled.

@mikenzkr 5 ай бұрын

Apart from sounding thinner on the M1 (less proximity effect), I also hear more weird phasing particularly when talking off axis. B1M sounds more like a natural polar pattern switch between mics and it sounds like the M1 is using some phase sorcery in its “beaming” tech to offer the multiple polar patterns it does. Noise cancellation sounds pretty aggressive on both - a bit of ducking particularly noticeable at the head of words. I’d probably not use the noise cancelling on the mic and do it more subtly in post. The ducking just makes it more distracting and noticeable. Pretty impressed at the quality on both though, and I can see those rear/front modes on the M1 being really handy. Thanks for the awesome review.

@PaulFeinberg 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Glad I could help!

@TUFFBASS 11 ай бұрын

Been trying to decide between both of these and I actually ordered both of them and tested the M1 today, waiting on the b1m but I think im sensing back the m1. I think the 8 capsules makes a difference.

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

Yes there is a reason the B1M is the same price. Sony still considers it to be the best Sounding microphone. The M1 just has different modes. They are close (when in the front directional mode), but the B1M for sure is better sounding.

@KyleWattsTV Жыл бұрын

Should be getting mine in 2 days. Just shipped today!

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

Nice! Add to the collection of mics! Lol

@driggsy 6 ай бұрын

This was hugely helpful. Thank you!

@PaulFeinberg 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@adamvictor9124 9 ай бұрын

The stereo option really sold this for me. Not many mics available if you want stereo audio.

@PaulFeinberg 9 ай бұрын

For sure. The M1 is still a great mic. If I didn’t already have the ECM-B1M I would own the M1.

@Ali_ReBORN 8 ай бұрын

Good shit bro 😊 gratitude! Getting the new M1 soon!

@PaulFeinberg 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! 🙏 If I didn’t already have the Ecm-b1m I would own the M1 for sure!! Great mic. Enjoy!

@Ali_ReBORN 8 ай бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg Thanks! Stay blessed 💪🏼

@tapasdey4299 2 ай бұрын

Great review. By the way, i am travel photographer and which one should i buy while in public place, or water falls etc. ?any advice please

@PaulFeinberg 2 ай бұрын

Honestly I would do M1 (waterfalls would be cool with that Stereo recording mode) Plus its smaller so in theory better for travel. The B1M sounds slightly better but I would still purchase the M1 if I had nothing at all. Since I have the B1M, I ended up just keeping that and not upgrading.

@TRIOStories 3 ай бұрын

Awesome video Paul! Super in-depth test and to be honest - this ECM-M1 is SO TEMPTING to replace the bulky Rode Video Mic Pro+ that we are currently using!

@PaulFeinberg 3 ай бұрын

Rode sounds amazing but man…..so convenient to have no cables and really that auto mode not having to think about setting levels spoiled me. Also nice to be able to talk behind the camera or in front with a flip of a switch. You for sure wouldn’t miss the big rode mic lol 😂

@TRIOStories 3 ай бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg If we hadn't been spending FAR TOO MUCH on gear recently, I would order one now, but I think we need to wait a few weeks minimum :D

@PaulFeinberg 3 ай бұрын

@@TRIOStories thanks for saying hi! Waiting for that video from you two saying you’ve been converted lol 😂

@TRIOStories 3 ай бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg might come sooner than you think and it will be your fault! 😅

@PaulFeinberg 3 ай бұрын

@@TRIOStories I take full responsibility lol 😂

@asoloda 10 ай бұрын

Thank you your review was helpful. lMen, I have both mics and I used them to some extent in a wedding. The ECM-M1 is great and I am happy with it. I would love to sale the ECM-B1M.

@PaulFeinberg 10 ай бұрын

For sure M1 is still great. If I didn’t have an ECM-B1M I would probably buy the M1, but I am not going to sell it for the M1. I almost did. There was a guy locally looking to buy my ECM-B1M for $200 but I decided to keep it.

@mbvglider 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. M1's super directional NC sounds really bad! Weird because most other modes sounded pretty good!

@PaulFeinberg 2 ай бұрын

B1M for sure sounds better. No problem!

@rickbiessman6084 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the detailed comparison and test. The feature sets are AMAZING, but I have to say the sound quality is a real let down. It’s got hyped highs (mostly ~9 kHz), which a lot of people mistake for "clarity", and it sounds sibilant. In most settings it’s kinda fine, although 13 minutes into the video I just can’t stand it anymore. But then, the Super Directional mode sounded just plain bad to me. Not only does it have the exaggerated highs, but also loses a lot of bass (of which there isn’t a ton to begin with). If there’s nothing there, no EQ in the world can fix correct it in post. Ooof.

@ty-k6708 18 күн бұрын

This test was pretty good for being on a tripod... But what about hand holding, how is the handling noise?

@PaulFeinberg 18 күн бұрын

M1 has less handling noise due to being smaller and liter. However I don’t think the B1M is as bad as some people say. For the most part I don’t really have any issues. M1 had zero issues.

@ty-k6708 18 күн бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg sounds good, thanks! Still using it?

@PaulFeinberg 18 күн бұрын

@@ty-k6708 Sony mics are the only way to go for Sony cameras! No cables! I use the ecm-b1m…for wireless lav I use the new DJI mic 2 with Sony hot shoe adapter. No more cables….love it. Love the Sony mic because of that auto mode…no thinking about levels just shoot

@alexdublin2673 Жыл бұрын

Which would you buy right now; Sony m1 or Rode NTG? I know they are 2 very different mics... Sony being no cable but only on Sony with the NTG no 8 patterns but works on everything inc usbc PC mic and can be boomed in... Purely for sound quality, which is better? Lastly, what are your absolute favorite mics atm?

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

Purely sound quality….Rode NTG all the way. The M1 sounds good in Ultra mode and super. The rest need some EQ’ing. The Rodes sound the best, but the convenience of no cables, no charging and all the different modes makes the Sony a win for me. The Sony’s still sound good, but not as good as rode, but there are trade offs. If only sound quality was your concern though Rode NTG. I am still using my ECM-B1M since I don’t need all the modes from the M1. I still keep my rode NTG video mic as well so I can boom when needed. Hope this helps!

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

Also check out @kylewattstv channel. We did a best mic for Sony ZV-E1 video where we test all the Rode mics, deity d4, and the Sony mics all in one video.

@alexdublin2673 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg thanks! Decisions decisions with ever growing mic collection lol Anything better than the rode NTG with that kind of functionality and similar price point in your opinion?

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

@@alexdublin2673 can never have too much audio lol 😂 NTG is the best in its class and price in my opinion.

@FlyZoneFpv Жыл бұрын

Sounds great Paul. Bro I just might buy it. Great review. Class A chit 👌😂

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

zero cables is where its at.

@insanelook Жыл бұрын

can you use the ECM-M1 with the SONY A6700 ?

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

Yes here is a list of compatible cameras: support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/cscs/accessories/compatibility.php?area=gb&lang=en&mdl=ECM-M1&cat=3

@iCanonKiD 2 ай бұрын

Great video! Which one are using these days? Is the shock mount on the B1M still bothersome?

@PaulFeinberg 2 ай бұрын

I am still rocking the B1M because I didn't feel the upgrade for me was worth it. I love the size of the M1 and because it is smaller there is like no rattle while vlogging with that design. I do like the sound of the B1M better, has more bass (is bigger and has more capsules). If I was buying a new one today I would just buy the M1. That M1 was Kyle Watts mic so I never ended up purchasing it. I had a buyer for my b1m, but decided not to upgrade and spend the money.

@westleyleonstudios 8 ай бұрын

Do stereo split L/R and then run each one into Adobe Podcast Studio at 25% and BOOM - amazing.

@PaulFeinberg 8 ай бұрын

Boom! Isn’t adobe podcast amazing!? I use it all the time. Easy to make stuff sound good! Thanks!

@technotin 11 ай бұрын

ECM-B1M sounds better cleaner reache

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

I would agree….unless you need the 8 different modes I would stick with b1m

@Venuadventures Жыл бұрын

How to connect in mobile phone

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately can’t…..these mics only work with Sony cameras with the digital hotshoe. You should look into a Rode Go II or Rode videomicro 2.

@Plugonetwo 11 ай бұрын

Great video Paul! Do you think the B1M has better range than the M1? I shoot athlete interviews and I’m thinking longer and more capsules will help more than vlogging distance from the camera. Thanks.

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

I think the B1M would because it’s longer and has more capsules

@Plugonetwo 11 ай бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg thanks!

@RangerRickTV Жыл бұрын

How does analog sound compared to digital?

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

Very good question, I have never used Analog because all my Sony's have the digital hotshoe. Here is a list of cameras that are compatible with these mics: support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/cscs/accessories/compatibility.php?area=gb&lang=en&mdl=ECM-B1M&cat=3

@paulchiu 4 ай бұрын

How is the new ECM-M1 for loud music, like at a Rock Concert versus the older ECM-B1M? thanks ( I already have the B1M)

@PaulFeinberg 3 ай бұрын

Sorry got this while at NAB and forgot to respond. I would say the only plus to the M1 over the B1M for rock concerts is the Stereo recording mode. Depends on if you think it would make a big difference for you. B1M I think has a little more boom and low end (after all it does have more mic capsules). Just depends on your needs. Hope this helps.

@IvanGorbenko 6 ай бұрын

thanks for video. but if you will change the camera , you will not be able to use it. is it good for 2 or more people talking in front of the camera? Do you think wireless be better?

@PaulFeinberg 6 ай бұрын

Works pretty good for two people in the shot especially with auto mode. Depends if you want more control over one persons vocals over the next, if that is the case then wireless lav kit would probably be better. All the Sony cameras from the a7iii and on can use that Sony mic on the hot shoe. Sony has been putting it on them.

@powwow9748 10 ай бұрын

Best vlogging mic

@PaulFeinberg 10 ай бұрын

I agree

@Jsanderfordphoto Жыл бұрын

0 cables.....i need it

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

Right!?

@isbestlizard 2 ай бұрын

Why don't YOU let US know which one you think sounded better? That's the entire reason I'm watching a video like this.

@PaulFeinberg 2 ай бұрын

I mean I just prefer to test the products and let the viewer decide on which one is better. Telling you what I think could give a bias or make someone feel like I am paid by a brand to tell you one way over the other…….if I didn’t have one or the other the M1 sounds good enough and I like its size. The B1M sounds better but not so much of a difference to not get the new features of the M1 when buying one for the first time. If you already have a B1M or B10….no need to upgrade

@andysherlin1444 7 ай бұрын

I just bought the B1M mic. Why can’t I hear recorded playback on videos? Isn’t that a standard function of any video camera? I’ve read that you have to upload it to a computer to hear the audio?

@PaulFeinberg 7 ай бұрын

I can hear recorded playback on mine…..only time you can’t hear playback is if you are recording S&Q mode.

@pf4773 11 ай бұрын

As noted below in a previous comment, I'm trying to develop a hobby of shooting documentaries when I travel internationally. I really like the new mic, but is this really the type of mic I need for interviewing subjects? It would appear not---the mic seems to be strictly for someone who is speaking directly into the camera, maybe 3 feet away. Wireless mics seem to have even better sound, are just as small, and allow the camera to be placed much farther away. Help me out, am I wrong? How far away can the speaker and still pick up good audio?

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

Right in front of the camera is what this mic is designed for. Sounds like you want a wireless solution. I have plenty of options at plenty of price points, just depends on needs and budget. I have videos on a lot of wireless setups. The best way to do it is take your audio and drop it in Adobe podcast “voice enhance” it makes even cheap mics sound good.

@Wildlife_Unlimited02 7 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot! I create wildlife content with my 600mm lens. Which one has better range?

@PaulFeinberg 7 ай бұрын

Both are about the same range, but Ecm-b1m has more capsules so that one probably has slightly better, but they are both very close to same range.

@Wildlife_Unlimited02 7 ай бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg I am thinking of buying Sennheiser MKE 600 instead of Sony mics. What do you think?

@Caleast 11 ай бұрын

What’s your favourite?

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

Love all the modes from the M1, but them B1M sounds better in my opinion. It’s close, but if I was buying brand new today I would probably buy the M1. I have the B1M and I am not selling it to get the M1…..I would buy the M1 new or find a B1M used for like $200

@Caleast 11 ай бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg thank you. I ordered now the m1 on amazon. I use the dji normally. In stressfully or other situations its more relaxing for me. What i also like is, i dont have do use any cables. So i think its better for my fx30. Your Family name sounds german ☺️ Regards from Austria 🇦🇹👋

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

@@Caleast talk about no stress.....the Auto-mode on the Sony mics is just sooo awesome. Never have to get levels again. Always perfect! I always, always leave it in auto mode. Enjoy it!

@FaustoEch 9 ай бұрын

El micrófono b1m tiene mucho mejor calidad de sonido que el M1. Tiene más cantidad de frecuencias de sonido, más graves y más agudos

@SILVERTC2005 7 ай бұрын

One of these will be my first mic. Do you ever find them picking up the noise of autofocus?

@PaulFeinberg 7 ай бұрын

Nope never…..another great tool I also use for audio editing is Adobe Podcast AI. Once my timeline is edited, export just the audio and then upload it to adobe podcast AI voice enhance download that and use it as the main audio. Cleans up everything and removes all noise. It’s amazing. But the mics sound great. If I didn’t have either I would get the M1 because it’s smaller and has more modes, but I think the b1m sounds a little better, but not enough over the M1 if I didn’t have either.

@SILVERTC2005 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much

@SILVERTC2005 7 ай бұрын

Which mic did you like better?

@PaulFeinberg 7 ай бұрын

@@SILVERTC2005 ecm-b1m personally sounded a bit better, but the size and features of the M1 make it better overall to me. I own the b1m and I didn’t feel like it was a good enough upgrade for me to get the M1. If I didn’t have either mic I would get the M1.

@scottiebumich 10 ай бұрын

Would love to hear the distance the mic pics up. For example if I have the narrow setting on it while taking a video of my baby outside. If he was 10 feet away would it pick up him more than all the ambient noise or are these setting really only for a blogger distance (within arm's reach)?

@PaulFeinberg 10 ай бұрын

Narrow should pickup more in the direct middle….it will still get a little ambient noise but more just the middle…

@scottiebumich 10 ай бұрын

@@PaulFeinbergAnd the sony ECM-B1M or ECM-M1 wouldn't work well for a distance of 4+ feet?

@PaulFeinberg 10 ай бұрын

@@scottiebumich if I have to guess the ecm-b1m would have a better range due to it being a little longer and 8 capsules vs 4 capsules. But that is just a guess from what I remember because I only have the ecm-b1m the M1 was a loaner from Sony. So I can’t fully test that for you.

@PaulFeinberg 10 ай бұрын

@@scottiebumich they both are aimed for being closer to the camera like most shotguns. The ecm-b1m would have a further range I would think. If you want range from the camera I would consider the new ECM-W3

@scottiebumich 10 ай бұрын

Thanks, that is helpful. I don't need range all the time, just an all purpose microphone for when I take videos of family. I am thinking ECM-BM1 makes the most sense. The M1 is nice if you VLOG. I wonder if the B1M has more off center sound rejection vs the most concentrated M1 setting?@@PaulFeinberg

@mustang2005 Жыл бұрын

My question is, is this an upgrade or downgrade from the b1m? Because it has less microphones than the b1m. I hardly hear a difference between the two, but I'm not an audio expert. But would the b1m technically have better quality because of more mics?

@PaulFeinberg Жыл бұрын

I struggled with this as well and I decided to keep my b1m…..I think it sounds slightly better and I don’t need the other cool settings. The M1 does seem to handle wind better but overall not a huge difference if you don’t need the extra features and directions just keep b1m

@mustang2005 Жыл бұрын

@@PaulFeinberg Thanks for the reply!

@jeffxavier101 11 ай бұрын

Thanks, Paul, but which one would you recommend for some doesn't have any mic yet? I think the M1 is more interesting, but the b1m is slightly better in the voice quality. Is that right ?

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

@@jeffxavier101 they are very close in sound quality. Personally I think the ECM-B1M sounds a bit better so if you do not need all the stereo modes, front and rear direction recordings I say stick with ECM-B1M. If you like the size and wouldn't mind having those extra features, its a small difference in sound quality. If you don't have either mic and you do KZfaq the M1 is probably the way I would go, unless you find a good deal on a used B1M. If I had a b1m I would not sell it to get M1.

@PaulFeinberg 11 ай бұрын

I was going to sell my B1M to get the M1 and I decided to keep the B1M due to the better sound.