I half expected him to go all Richard III and just directly address us and gloat about how all he has planned has gone fully into motion.

He's like an annoying flea, so amazing seeing him get killed twice, one permently at the end of defiance

he's just a puppet of the elder god

so many years later omg

Ya and I thinks it's the same voice actor, when he dies in Defiance we can hear the "old man voice"

@@rikybj0276 You especially hear it when Richard Doyle is showing Moebius' terror and horror at seeing his master's true face, realizing he was just as much of a pawn as anything.

​@@BryonYoungbloodyeah kinda! but idk, it almost sounds like 2 different voice actors, i prefer it in the soul reaver 2

Killing Kain was not enough, they wanted a change in the timestream using paradoxes in order to have a timeline where the Elder can feed on mortal souls. Most of the timelines ended with Raziel killing Kain and then he became trapped in the Reaver.

@@Rafesco elder god could always siphon mortal souls through the wheel of fate, elder god is not raziel

@@ericocccams5865 yeah, but he can't feed on vampiric souls, because immortality, Elder needs vampires and hylden out of the equation, so he can feed on humans who are easily manipulated, that's the great scheme, to alter fate so vampires and hylden are destroyed/banished from Nosgoth.

@@Rafesco Yep, and the fact they needed Raziel to do it because of what he could do with paradoxes... as well as the fact the Elder God and Moebius feared Kain's destiny as the Scion of Balance, since it was shown later he is destined not just to restore Nosgoth, BUT to also slay the Elder God and free the Wheel.

he didnt know he only had one chance at killing moebius(when he 1st finds the reaver in william's tomb) and in all of his othr ecounters afterwards he figured there was no point if he was serving the Elder God, he would just be raised again unti lthe time he was meant ot die. if he actually tried ot go for the kill here some contrivance would end up negating him the chance. plus Raziel needed im here ot operate the device evne if he tricked him.

You were enlightened, and saw the truth. I merely wish Raziel gave him a good slap.

It is a shame Raziel is so determined to learn his origins that his recklessness and even his selfishness lead him so easily manipulated by Moebius and the Elder God all so they hope he will kill Kain and thus end Kain's threat to the Elder God, as well as how he unintentionally even aids their enemies, like when he resurrects Janos in Defiance, allowing the Hylden Lord to take his body after Mortanius dies when Kain refuses the sacrifice to restore the Pillars. Raziel means while, but he also doesn't see the damage he causes until it's almost too late.

I think the dialog and writting is masterful executted, that was thanks to actual theathrical actors and professionals. The gameplay is seriously outdated. Original Soul Reaver was heavy inspired by Zelda, maybe they can take in to account recent itherations of Zelda if for some miracle they try to remake the series.

The gameplay wasn't that bad dude, it was basically soul reaver 1 but with different enemies

​@@brandonbingham6871exactly, SR1 had horrific gameplay

Gee 11 years

it's no like he was capable of calling him out on it Raziel doesnt know how to operate the time streaming devices in order to be able to tell there was foul play. he had no leverage to strongarm Moebius into doing as he commanded, moebius doesnt fear Death and his shred of ominscience as guardian gives him the assurance nothing worse cna happen.

Only if it's a graphic overhaul, because the voice acting and music was already perfect and can't be made better then it was

he was fairly safe in the knowledge that raziel needed him to operate the time streaming device

@@Teixas666 He said that because Raziel had the power of two reavers at his command, allowing Raziel to change history.

@@blesseddrones9852 He ALWAYS does. He's the Soul Reaver, and so is the wraith blade he's walking around with. That's why he has free will - he's a walking, talking paradox, strolling around with a second, time displaced instance of his own soul bolted on to his arm. The reason why space distorts in Soul Reaver 2 and only in Soul Reaver 2, is because there are actually THREE Reavers involved every time. The Wraith Raziel, The Wraith Blade, and The Soul Reaver. It's literally giving reality an aneurysm.

cimpcimp At least Moebius finally died in Defiance. Good riddance that motherfucker.

Just buy a ps2, they're cheap enough

I bought a copy of the game for the ps2 and yeah it’s better than the PC Port

It really is a Thirty Gambit Pileup as you say. Its like when Raziel says that the right hand doesn't seem to know what the left is doing. Everyone is running their own schemes and agendas throughout the story except Raziel and Vorador (for an ancient, jaded vampire he's almost as unassuming as Raziel throughout it all. Probably boils down to his fatalism). Moebius, Kain, Janos Audron, the Elder God, Mortanius/Ariel, and the Hylden are all working at cross or marginally complimentary purposes at best.

at this point, nothing. Raziel is not at the brink of a paradox like last time. killing him here would be the same as as any other time, either circustances would take place ot prevent the opportunity or the gos he serves would bring him back as he did before.

@@Teixas666 the trouble is the soul reaver eat souls and there was paradox when raziel had both blades.

@@Teixas666 true but make wonder since Raziel and soul reaver are same could he effect time.

@@chrishill3536 if he had the capacity to do that at that point we would know. its shown at all points that where you are on the verge of a paradox caused by the reaver raziel notes a distinct sense of vertigo and his perception of space warps around him. this did not occur this time and this event happens after the wraith blade and " wraith Raziel" collapse on each other(when he repaired the broken reaver), past this point the reaver on hisarm and raziel are a singular entity. this was the solution of the paradox at the time.

@@Teixas666 when he fix he fix the broken reaver there was a paradox being made. That why I wonder what happened if he did swing the blade.

In that moment he understimated Moebius, he learned that at the end of SR2. And Moebius never let his guard down in front of Raziel from that moment.