SoundTraxx NEW Tsunami2 TSU-PNP8 8 function decoder install in a Kato Dash 9 44CW

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We have an exciting Tsunami2 decoder installation this week. Our product expert, George, installs our NEW TSU-PNP8 8 function decoder into a Kato Dash 9 44CW. He walks you through all of the steps to make this install as easy as possible. Watch now to learn more!
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@FishplateFilms
@FishplateFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Another good one George! I have over 20 Kato's on the layout, and have done about 6 so far with LED ditch, head and number boards...it's a job and a half alright..and I have to do it with one eye and no depth perception..LOL. Takes me about 3 x 2hr sessions before I get too stressed out from concentration. !! SO mine will NOT be having step and truck lights..LOL. They do look good though and I find I put mine on the headend of lash ups! Cheers Gregg.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
Way to stick with it!
@alainaarrhodge5413
@alainaarrhodge5413 4 жыл бұрын
Love that the videos are now including step and truck lights!!
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
George likes to light up the model!
@how_to_hallagon1
@how_to_hallagon1 Жыл бұрын
Some day I hope plug n play makes this a thing of the past
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC Жыл бұрын
While I can understand the sentiment, the reality is we would need all manufacturers to agree on a decoder interface standard, and do not deviate from that as they do now. (21P doesn't mean that all 21P decoders will work all features..) So, we need the NMRA and all loco manufacturers to come together and agree on a single standard.. That certainly would make our lives easier knowing we only had to make one decoder format! grin! Thank you for watching!! ~G
@KingTrump2024
@KingTrump2024 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the drop-in easy of the KT-1000's for Kato installs.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@j.mcq.8418
@j.mcq.8418 9 ай бұрын
I'm having a problem with my install (or maybe programming) of this decoder in an atlas HO emd mp-15dc. The front light is always lit. I did notice from this video that I don't have a wire running from V+ for the HL to the V+ terminal on the rear light like in the wiring diagram shown. Unlike the install here, I only have a front and rear light.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 8 ай бұрын
Our support team can help you figure out what is going on: (970)259-0690 ext. 22 or support@soundtraxx.com
@ricter591
@ricter591 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks George
@PennCentral99
@PennCentral99 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for the detailed information.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@donaldmoore8920
@donaldmoore8920 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video George
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@eXtremeFX2010
@eXtremeFX2010 4 жыл бұрын
I so love SoundTraxx Videos makes things easy... with the exception of "Milling The Metal Frame" of the locomotive. I do not have milling tools. Please make suggestions how if you are not a metal shop expert with tools. What are some other options or perhaps recommend where we can get the frame milled?🤔 That is the hardest task it seems like especially if you dont have the tools.
@eXtremeFX2010
@eXtremeFX2010 4 жыл бұрын
@@goaliegeorge Thank You so much..You guys at SoundTraxx have AMAZING customer service!
@alainaarrhodge5413
@alainaarrhodge5413 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks George for the great video and I too look forward to seeing a video about milling metal without the machines. THANKS!!
@TheTrainFreak
@TheTrainFreak 4 жыл бұрын
I had to modify an Athearn Blue Box frame one time. I used a dremel hand tool. It took me a while to get it where I wanted but it is an alternative than buying an expensive milling machine.
@pablohernandez9405
@pablohernandez9405 Жыл бұрын
I took mine to a machine shop
@eXtremeFX2010
@eXtremeFX2010 Жыл бұрын
@@pablohernandez9405 About 2yrs ago I have since purchased a simple belt Sander commonly used for light metal work from Amazon my video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLqefpemq5PNiYk.html Cost less than a Dcc card itself... well worth the investment.
@milepost856
@milepost856 4 жыл бұрын
You Answer some of question , about light kool
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
Let us know if you need help with anything else: soundtraxx.com/contact/technical-support
@TheTrainFreak
@TheTrainFreak 4 жыл бұрын
What size LED's are you using for your trucks, step, walkway, and numberboards?
@steeplecab
@steeplecab 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to have seen how you attached the new leads to the motor tabs.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback. You can contact our Support Department for more info: support@soundtraxx.com
@alvarosousalinhadonorte-mo7218
@alvarosousalinhadonorte-mo7218 4 жыл бұрын
Once more a great video George! I think I have asked you once George, why don´t you (Soundtraxx) consider to use smd resistors includede in the sound pcb to the lights and functions, insted of those external"fat" resistors? It would be a great help... I think! Cheers. Álvaro
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
There are various resistors used in this model. You can use one size, but there are other lighting options out there and if we pre-regulates all for LED, then other options become unusable or we’d need another board design. A 1/8th or 1/4 watt resistor doesn’t take up much space and is super cheap to buy. On this install, I used 1k for headlight, back light and ditch lights. I used a 3.3k for number boards, truck and step/courtesy lights and a 5.2k for the blue flag light. Yes, we can adjust the brilliance, but using a bigger resistor on the dimmed lights allows me a slightly dimmer range before the light goes out when I adjust the dimming CVs. The 5.2k was chosen on the blue flag light because the LED light is simply too bright!
@davidwiezer6708
@davidwiezer6708 3 жыл бұрын
So you just need a soldering iron, wire strippers, tweezers, and a Bridgeport Milling Machine?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 3 жыл бұрын
To fit all of the speakers he put in there he had to mill it.
@NICKSSHOP
@NICKSSHOP 3 жыл бұрын
where can I get the wire and the LED lights like you show in the video because I know you talked about in the video but im having a hard time to find them
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 3 жыл бұрын
Email sales@soundtraxx.com and George will share his LED sources with you. We sell wire on our website: soundtraxx.com/accessories/installation-accessories/wiring-aids/ultra-flexible-wire/
@WestCoastRails
@WestCoastRails 4 жыл бұрын
Thats a good starter video for some viewers, what if someone is using other cell speakers, maybe you could explain how to determine the Positive and Negative terminals on other cell speakers.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
The first place to look for this info would be the manufacturer of the speaker.
@christopherbrown5338
@christopherbrown5338 4 жыл бұрын
A trick I used in my many years doing car audio is use a battery (AA), in this case use a low amp battery such as a coin type battery. You can hold or tape a lead from each side of the battery, then attach one wire to the speaker. Just momentarily tap the other wire to the other speaker input. When you do this, look at the speaker surface from the side. If the surface drops down, you have the incorrect phase. If the speaker pops upwards when you tap your wire, you have the correct phase. Note which wire coming from the battery is the positive side and then you'll know which contact points on the speaker is positive & negative
@WestCoastRails
@WestCoastRails 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherbrown5338 ....thats a cool trick for a larger diaphragm speaker. I would think this would be a bit difficult with a cell speaker?? I'll try it though.
@christopherbrown5338
@christopherbrown5338 4 жыл бұрын
@@WestCoastRails Yes, you are correct. This is a time where some magnification will come in handy. Even a light finger pressure will work
@mikemunts344
@mikemunts344 4 жыл бұрын
George, That was an interesting tool you applied the flux with. What is it?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
The flux we use comes in a syringe for easy application.
@jorel5412
@jorel5412 Жыл бұрын
Ok but you didn't really show how you installed the lights. You just showed a finished picture. Do you have a step by step light install video?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 11 ай бұрын
For this particular model, we do not have a video of this. We have several install videos some showing more details on lights. Or you can contact our Support Team for help with this: (970)259-0690 ext.22 or support@soundtraxx.com. Thank you.
@spacecalander
@spacecalander 4 жыл бұрын
I always find Kato positive on the bottom tab, if i use top as pos. Unit runs in reverse when dcc controller says fwd.
@WestCoastRails
@WestCoastRails 4 жыл бұрын
Same....Its a hit and miss...first I wire the track leads, then tin the motor wires, now just put the motor wires in the decoder motor tabs and run the loco....if correct , then solder the wires. If not,,,,then obviously switch the motor leads.
@72zodiac
@72zodiac 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a CV you can change to solve the problem if you ready Soldered the wrong wires to the decoder??
@christopherbrown5338
@christopherbrown5338 4 жыл бұрын
@@72zodiac If you are using a long address (number higher than 127) and using 28/128 speed steps then program CV29 to 35. But if you reset the decoder in the future it will return to running backwards.
@Austinxddd
@Austinxddd 3 жыл бұрын
Do u have to use resisters when you install the ditch lights and other lights?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 3 жыл бұрын
For LEDs yes. You can find Technical notes on this subject on our website: soundtraxx.com/reference/documentation/
@brianmarshall5703
@brianmarshall5703 3 жыл бұрын
can we see this in a Kato p42? I see the old board isn't available anymore, so I would like to see how it fits into the engine with this version.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 3 жыл бұрын
We don't have access to all engines, but you can contact our Customer Support Department to discuss this fit further: soundtraxx.com/contact/technical-support
@frankhellman6879
@frankhellman6879 4 жыл бұрын
That's a whole lot of wires, but worth it.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
It sure is!
@jorel5412
@jorel5412 2 жыл бұрын
I know 4 speakers sound great. But is it ok to just use 2 speakers ? I was just going to put one speaker on each truck tower.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is ok to use 2 speakers.
@ShazzledWolf32
@ShazzledWolf32 2 жыл бұрын
My circuit board is dcc compatible I need to know which decoder I need
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 2 жыл бұрын
We will need more information on your model to help you with this. Please contact our Support Team for more help: (970)259-0690 ext. 22 or support@soundtraxx.com You may find your model on our Decoder Selector: soundtraxx.com/reference/decoder-selector
@scottwalters6031
@scottwalters6031 4 жыл бұрын
What solder and Flux do you like to use. Great video.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
You can order the solder from Digikey. I don’t remember the diameter this minute, but smaller is better. There is not just one brand of Flux that will work. Just make sure it is an electronics grade flux. You can get a good flux from Digikey. Search Chipquik flux syringe. I believe it’s about $12. The stuff we use is a bit more expensive and flows clear. Here’s the stuff George uses at home: www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/chip-quik-inc/SMD291NL/SMD291NL-ND/1160000 It’s about $12 per ‘syringe’ The stuff we have here is Alpha OM-338. You can search online or here’s a link to a random website: www.solderconnection.com/P1186/ALPHA-OM338-LEAD-FREE-FLUX-GEL.html Because it’s an industrial use flux, most of the links want you to contact them for quotes.
@scottwalters6031
@scottwalters6031 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundtraxxDCC Thank you for the reply and info.
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottwalters6031 Of course, let us know if you need anything else!
@milepost856
@milepost856 4 жыл бұрын
I gave old zchool , 1000 decoder finaly got to reset. i cant get the light to work any tip
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
Contact our Customer Support Department for help with this: soundtraxx.com/contact/technical-support Thank you
@farmerdave7965
@farmerdave7965 3 жыл бұрын
But does that decoder support railcom ?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 3 жыл бұрын
No. Railcom is not NMRA DCC compliant.
@nicklorusso1024
@nicklorusso1024 4 жыл бұрын
So do you still need to use separate resistors or are these boards LED friendly?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
Resistors are necessary
@nicklorusso1024
@nicklorusso1024 4 жыл бұрын
SoundTraxx when are we going to see LED friendly boards?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicklorusso1024 Unfortunately that is not as simple as it sounds. Not everyone uses the same value. Example I use 1000 (1k) ohm for headlight and ditch lights, but for number board or step lights I use 3.3k. For the blue flag light in the cab I used a 5.7k. That way, I can control the light effect brilliance more based on the purpose of the light. And we’ve had installers complain about the pre-regulated values for LED boards (previous generation TSU-BW1000, KT1000, IM1000) because they were too bright/dim. LEDs are easier to use a resistor with than the 1.5v bulbs. Variations in track voltage are not as potentially damaging to LEDs as the 1.5v bulbs are. I hope this helps.
@dptrpt
@dptrpt 4 жыл бұрын
What is the advantage of 4 speakers? Which brand/type/ohm speaker were they?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
Better sound, you will get a lot more of the deeper bass tones with these. They are SoundTraxx Mini Cube Speakers: soundtraxx.com/accessories/speakers/oval-speakers/mini-cube-oval-speaker-baffle/
@dptrpt
@dptrpt 4 жыл бұрын
SoundTraxx awesome thank you. I also meant to ask why brand of flux? I like that smalll tip applicator
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
@@dptrpt There is not just one brand of Flux that will work. Just make sure it is an electronics grade flux. You can get a good flux from Digikey. Search Chipquik flux syringe. I believe it’s about $12. The stuff we use is a bit more expensive and flows clear. Here’s the stuff George uses at home: @t It’s about $12 per ‘syringe’ The stuff we have here is Alpha OM-338. You can search online or here’s a link to a random website: @t Because it’s an industrial use flux, most of the links want you to contact them for quotes.
@jasonbarringer584
@jasonbarringer584 4 жыл бұрын
You did not install a current keeper, is that because you can't get it into the receptacle and get the wires past the body shell?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 жыл бұрын
No, I chose not to install one because after cleaning up the wheels and the axle/wiper contacts, a CurrentKeeper was not necessary. There is plenty of room to install a CurrentKeeper and the wires. If you want to install a CurrentKeeper, you can!
@jasonbarringer584
@jasonbarringer584 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundtraxxDCC I have 9 of these here along with 2 SD80mac's and unless you cut the connector off of the Current Keeper and solder it to the board you are not going to get that connector on the side of the TSU-PNP to clear. I have installed a TSU-PNP into my Kato C44-9W only to remove it and go with the TSU-2200 so that I can mount the Current Keeper with the decoder. You may have a newer model that has more room is the only thing I can imagine.
@kakkun61
@kakkun61 4 жыл бұрын
How to cut the die-cast?
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 ай бұрын
I have used a fine-tooth metal hacksaw in many cases. I do not personally have access to a milling machine, which would be the preferred way to get more professional cuts, but a hacksaw and a file can get useable results. Remove all of the motor, trucks, driveline, etc to prevent any damage or metal shavings getting in there to cause excessive wear or possibly to lock up the mechanism. Draw the lines where you want or need the cuts to be made, and take your time to make sure you follow the lines as closely as possible. Once the cuts are made, clean the edges with a file and make sure there are no jagged or sharp edges. The wash and let dry, reassemble and continue the install. This particular cutting was done by a friend who is no longer in town on their milling machine. Sigh.. For more details, contact us at support: (970)259-0690 ext. 22 or support@soundtraxx.com
@norliasmith
@norliasmith 4 ай бұрын
Hmm, now where did I put my mill....
@SoundtraxxDCC
@SoundtraxxDCC 4 ай бұрын
:)
@mariomader8850
@mariomader8850 4 жыл бұрын
Speaker wiring diagram-WHAT AM I MISSING HERE? Two of the 8 ohm cubes in series = 16 ohms. Wiring two groups of cubes in Parallel would = 8 ohms. Your diagram shows two groups of cubes being wired in SERIES which would equal 32 ohms. Is it not correct to have wired the two cube groups plus to plus and minus to minus to be in parallel and = the 8 ohms. Most Tsunami 2s have the wattage, but this should dramatically lesson the sound quality power output volume?
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