2472 and 4449 are beautiful steam locomotives they are absolutely stunning and you can never get enough of them there colors and shapes catch my eye all the time

Back in 1991? I was working as a school bus driver out of North Hollywood Laidlaw yard, when I saw the double-header of the 2472/4449 pulling the new Rio Grande Coach Cars, I can't remember the event, but it was cool passing by on the Coast Route out of Los Angeles, I was about 50 feet away as they past by, So Coool! Oh, there were also a few PV Cars behind the coaches.

4449 is my favorite steam locomotive

One of the most interesting things about SP 4449 is it was featured in the action comedy movie Tough Guys (1986) with Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster.

She’s a beautiful steam engine!

Sp 4449 is my favorite steam locomotive I visit her all the time she is a really beautiful steamer:D

4449 is one of the most popular (and most photographed) steam trains in the world. It also has close to the largest online presence of any steam locomotive (Flying Scotsman and the Big Boy do as well). Having a big online presence is very important for any operating steam trains to survive in the long run. On a separate subject, will you ever do a video about the PRR T-1 Trust? The group building the 4-4-4-4 duplex 5550 from drawings?

4449 Really So beautiful Freedom train Sir.

Thanks for another Sunday afternoon excursion with Mr. & Mrs. Fun! I always look forward to seeing your next adventure!

I saw the Freedom Train in Tempe,AZ. Brings back a lot of memories, you guys are awesome!

Major kudos to the volunteers staff that with the heart and soul and continue to work on them beautiful locomotives and with all their heart and soul they put into them beautiful steam locomotives

I have a picture of me as a very young kid standing in front of the driver's of the "Freedom Train". 3 years ago I got to visit the museum and stand in front of 4449 again.

I was fortunate to see her in American Freedom Train colors in Pomoma CA when it stopped at the Fairgrounds so many, many years ago. Quite a sight. Had another opportunity to see her in her normal paint scheme in Grants Pass, OR, when she came through on an excursion.

It almost was not returned to service in time for Freedom Train duty. The boiler back sheet was heavily corroded and nobody involved at the time was able to repair it. They looked for and found a still living, and long retired, SP boiler maker, Joe Crumley. He had the needed knowledge and directed the repairs that led to the boiler passing inspection for service. It’s not that no one in the world knew how to fix it.. it was a matter of very little time to do the repairs and the necessity of having the repair done in place, in time. In 1970 Richard K Wright published ‘Southern Pacific Daylight, Trains 48 and 49’ the definitive book on the subject on the passenger trains and their locomotives. He personally inscribed a copy of the book as a gift to Joe, on June 28, 1975, referring in that inscription to Joe as the man who ‘Saved 4449’. I am the proud owner of that book, number 1977, that once belonged to Joe. Don’t ask.. it is not for sale. I have been offered massive money for it already many times. I also have the more rare soft cover “American Bicentennial Queen Engine 4449, “The Lone Survivor” “ also by Wright and from the Crumley estate, and personally inscribed to Joe, on May 12, 1975.

Wow it stopped in Morristown, NJ. That must’ve been one hell of a sight to see.

This is one of my most favorite steam locomotives of all time!! You should come to my hometown of El Paso sometime. We have an old 4-4-0 steam locomotive called Old Engine No. 1

Excellent " Screwing Around" video. I love the Daylight. I have a model of it in HO. My first memory of it is when it had a starring role in Tough Guys with Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas. I look forward to your next one.

The 700 is down for the 1472 Every 15 years or 1,472 days of operation (whichever comes first) steam engines need be checked and have a boiler rebuild to make sure it can handle operating pressure

I love the SP 4449. I would love to see her in person sometime. Thanks for another interesting video.

4449, my grandson, Ryder's favorite locomotive.

Nice ! Would love to see the Daylight one day

Thanks for the video! my grade school class got to go see the Freedom Train here in Stockton Ca, it was a long time ago so I don't remember much details about it I just remember that we went to see it..

I'm still annoyed that I didn't get a chance to meet you guys, maybe when you come back to ride behind 4449 either during an excursion or during the Holiday express event. Glad you enjoyed beautiful Oregon, and got to see all of it's railroading wonders!

Why the heck didn't the UP make arrangements to have this locomotive at the Spike 150 event with the Big Boy? Would have been far more appropriate than 844! Loved this piece, this is one of my favorite locomotives.

Not boring at all. Thank you

Another fun video! I'll have to check the OMSI museum out the next time I visit Portland. I love the "Daylight" locomotive. Very stylish.

S.P. 4449 Beautiful in its Daylight colors and totally Awesome in it's American Freedom Train colors of 1975/1976. It brought the history of America to thousands of ordinary people that would never have a chance to actually visit the museums and places where American history was made. Of all the artifacts on display in the cars of that train, the one that ment the most to me, was the rocking chair of President Kennedy. Having seen pictures of him sitting in it in Life, and other magazines, to see it in person was great. 4449 is in my opinion, the most beautiful steam locomotive of all time. I only saw her in her Freedom Train colors, but have watched many videos on KZfaq. I only got to see her under steam on a dark stormy night as it left enroute to it's next display city. I still have my flattened coins that I placed on the track to remember the occasion. Happy July 4th and GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Currently 4449 is ring filmed for a IMAX movie! Also the actual largest 4-8-4 is Santa Fe 2926, they recently finished the rebuild on it in new mexico, and will be the world's largest and powerful Northern operating

Wow! Awesome! You just brought back a great memory from my childhood! Back in 1976 my aunt took me to Tulsa Oklahoma to see the Freedom train! I was 10yrs old at the time and my memory was seeing Judy Garlands dress and shoes from the Wizard of Oz! Thank you!

Thanks for sharing. Do do these videos so well-- just like being there in-person. THANKS!! - Dean

And you can thank Ross Rowland for this, He and his crew fished it out of a park for the AFT

You are so lucky 4449 is one of my favorite steam locomotives of all time the GS stands for Golden State for California GS4 it's the 4th class in that Golden State Edition during World War II they wanted to order more locomotives but the government wouldn't let them order a passenger engine so they said that the GS standard for general service another trivia thing that I know about 4 4 4 9 awesome video peace out have a great day

SP 4449 is one of the best locomotives in the Northwest

Excellent, as always.

The rebuild of the 700 is the FRA 15 year inspection. 700 is the largest Northern type locomotive running.

If you have the occasion to come out east, visit the Strasbourg rail road and rail road museum. We live in new jersey and have friends in Lancaster pa. When we visit them we try to stop by the Strasburg to see and hear the steam engines

197 Is a nice looking engine :)

Dale and Karyn, you weren't kidding. What a beautiful Espee steam locomotive! -from Tom Pilling

I have lived in Noo Yawk for most of my life and did not see such huge locomotives. The PRR was involved with using multiple smaller locos rather than large ones. NYC was using similar strategies with their trains which terminated at Grand Central Terminal. (Which was a terminal, not a station as so many mistakingly refer to it) Penn Station was fed by long tunnels running under rivers from New Jersey and from Long Island so steam was replaced by electric locos at each end, which limited the smog issues.

I got to ride behind 4449 on a trip home to Portland after it served on the Freedom Train. Hung out in the vestibule most of the way up the Sacramento River above Redding to Mt Shasta. The sounds of the loco echoing up the river canyon is one you do not forget. I had chased the same engine a year or so previously when it came south to travel across the nation to pick up the Freedom train just after its restoration. I chased it from Black Butte south to Sacramento and then east to Sparks Nevada. It was magical chasing it over Donner Summit.

Toy Man Television, tickets for the 4449's holiday express just went up for sale.

Spokane Portland and Seattle 700 had this rebuild back on 2016

Thanks for this great video on SP4449, also if you go to www.4449.com, the Friends of 4449 publish the full information including excursion information on the website.

Just to let everyone know in 1947 there was the first American Freedom Train and it was pulled by a PA-1, like the one on display.

Awesome episode! I love this locomotive! My dad actually got to see the locomotive when it was traveling the country as the American Freedom Train. It was the West Des Moines, IA stop. Fun fact: A locomotive like #197 was involved in a train robbery and the robbery was stopped single-handedly by a sheriff in 1914.

I’ve visited that place a couple times I love an hour away it’s my favorite steak locomotive and I have it in HO scale I also have a couple coaches and 2 daylight Diesels

+ToyMan *4-8-4 Lima Super-Power Passenger Class GS-4 SerNo 7817,* built for the Southern Pacific's Daylight Limiteds, packed then-new hardware for steam, with an air horn at the nose of the skyrail; it could very well be updated to a dual air-horn installation in parallel with the recessed four-chime whistle at mid-boiler. Wonder where the bell ended up in the design?

You need to go back and do one on the 700 and the 190

Awesome

as he didnt mention it, the other 2 locomotives that pulled the Bicentennial was Reading 2101 T-1, and T&P 610 2-10-4

The Alco PA is a former ATSF unit. I don't know if it "belongs" to Doyle himself or the museum. The Nickel Plate scheme has something to do with his childhood memories. He has gotten some flack for not painting it in the historical Santa Fe Warbonnet scheme but at least its restored and has a good future. One other is being restored in a proper Santa Fe scheme somewhere,(Texas?). All were in Mexico. The other one I think is in a museum there.

4014 is the most famous American locomotive.

so you went to pay old Hatwater a visit. Doyle sure knows how to keep 4449 in top condition.

The 197 is from the Oregon River and Navigation.

Have you guys ever visited NKP 765 yet?

UP big boy is a monsterious project ,so it's hard to say weather it will be completed by Spring or Summer of next year .

Love this video! I have a B&W poster of 4449 in situ I would like to send you a copy of if a secure way of communicating an address can be worked out. My understanding is that the major USRA recerts for steam locos are every 15 years or XX miles. 4449 had one finished 2-3 years ago. Since steam locos don't collect very many miles any more, the interval seems to usually be the 15 years. The gentleman at the Rail Heritage Center I talked to said they completed it for about $150,000 because they did most of the work in house. Some places have spent a million or more for this work. The Nickle Plate diesel belongs to Doyle McCormick, who oversaw the Freedom Train restoration project. There is a Tracks Ahead episode which has a segment on this. The one sure time when 4449 seems to go out is during the Christmas holidays for the Polar Express cocoa runs for the kids. There are other occasional runs throughout the year, but these sell out quick.

Very well done, I was wondering when this episode would be released. One correction about the PA though, there are actually 4 PAs that still survive. The PA is also not from the Nickel Plate, it was originally built in 1948 as Santa Fe 62, in fact all 4 of the surviving PAs are from the Santa Fe. 59 is being restored to operation in Texas, 62 is in Portland, and the other two are at a Railroad Museum in Mexico. The 62 is owned by Doyle McCormack, who is the engineer on the 4449. He repainted 62 as Nickel Plate 190 because his dad worked for the Nickel Plate and the first locomotive he ever got to ride on was on the real Nickel Plate 190, which was also a PA. I heard all that from Doyle himself when I got to meet him earlier this year.

The American steam engines look fantastic but if you want to see loads all running on the main line and on heritage lines pop over to the U.K. The heritage lines run steam most days of the year and you both would be most welcome

I missed the Freedom Train as I was out of the country with the U. S. Army in Germany. I spent the 4th of July 1976 watching boxing matches where anyone could enter and fight. The way it ended the was the Samoans for our Cavalry Troop won the title. I tell Hohenfels was a dusty hot in the summer and freezing in the winter kind of place. We'd spend a couple of days in the billets and the rest of the time was spent driving, stopping looking around, drive some more and repeat. We ate and slept in or on our tracked vehicles. There were the patrols or like the time this big owl or some type of bird of prey mistook me for a rabbit and swooped down on me. It scared the living crap💩 out of me. I did manage to keep my wit's through all this and not instinctively run like crazy crawling back across the open field to our perimeter. Crazy time, crazy times😵😱😴

Hi toy man television. Love the vid

GS stood for Golden State until they wanted more during WW2, they then changed the GS designation to General Service and later GS locos didn't come with the extra panels. Doyle McCormick owns the Nickel Plate locos and he is responsible for 4449 and most of what is there. OWR&N is a former UP loco. OWR&N is like the OSL and several others parts of the UP region.

SP&S 700 is the same design as NP's A-3 Northerns. The NP A-4 and A-5's were even bigger. I think they and the last versions of the Santa Fe 4-8-4's (2900's) were the biggest of the Northerns (by weight). They are visibly larger than N&W 611, UP 844, SP 4449, etc. I have seen HO brass models of all of them displayed side by side, and the NP and SF locomotives are the giants among the giants. I think the list, by weight, goes from largest operational (or nearly so) down as: UP 4014, UP 3985, N&W 1218, SP&S 700, N&W 611, UP 844....

That's a beautiful bit of heritage to enjoy. Hey when you are back up in Portland you may want to rent a car and trip out Highway 30 to Astoria... There is Columbia River Maritime Museum the last time I was there it was really nice. There are other museums out there worth screwing around at. Then you have Fort Astoria. You could spend a few days easy just exploring Astoria and the northern coast there. You also have the the four mile long Megler Bridge crossing the mouth of the Columbia over to Washington. Warning the bridge is not for the faint of heart I've been over it in a storm and it was interesting crossing the high-rise section of the span. While you are out there by the Columbia River Maritime Museum is a fish and chips shop called the Bowpicker that's one of the places we stop to eat when we are down on the Oregon coast... If you want to see if they are open when you are up that way, you will find them here www.bowpicker.com/ Every time we have been there the food has been great. Depending on the time of year we go down to Vancouver Wa. to see Twinkles parents, we may take Highway 30 out of Portland along the Columbia to Astoria to mess around for a while. Then pop over the Megler Bridge and come back on the north side of the River or head up the coast on 101 and 105 for parts north.

You've made me want to go look for the photos of the Freedom Train that came past here in 1976. Unfortunately, the engine was not 4449.

Really? The 2472 did a mainline excursion? Man, I wish I was alive for that time! That's my favorite locomotive!

There's one thing that nags me about the 190, It doesn't have a notch in the nose for the bell (the actual 190 did, the one you guys saw is a ATSF loco) Also, I know that the 4449 and the 190 are owned by Dale Mccormack. Also, I'n northern Michigan, there's the last known pair of Baldwin Sharks. The issue with the PAs were that EMD locos were so popular, so no one knew how to maintain an ALCO.

I've heard that a group is restoring a Santa Fe railroad 4-8-4 #2926 that is almost finished what I heard, and they say when it's finished, it'll be the largest operating 4-8-4

I have sat in the cab of the day light you just have to ask me our one of the members of like doil to get in

The rebuilt is every 15 years or 1472 days of operation whatever comes first

When ATSF 2926 is restored and running it will be the largest operating 4-8-4, just a little side note.

You need to visit the Age of Steam Roundhouse in Ohio if you like to see a impressive collection of Steam Locomotive and diesels. You will need to get on their web site to watch for tour dates and buy tickets quick this place sell out quickly

btw sp had a fleet of gs class locomotives and there is another gs class locomotive that survived gs-6 4460 that look similar to a gs-2 but not it dosent have the side skirts and its only painted in black and sadly no body is planning on restoring it :( its just gonna be forgotten

Sometime, you need to go to St. Louis, I heard there's a GS-6 hiding about there.

That blue scheme at 9:50 I think would be a better fit for the 4449 - or replace the red with dark blue and the orange with light blue.

While it disappoints me that Union Pacific only permits their own brand of steam locomotives to run on their track system, I must say damn Amtrak for banning special charter trains.

You guys should go back to the Illinois railway museum because they are running the shay now

What volcano was that at 0:49?!?

didn't you shot this locomotives when you show us your tapes?

Isn't that museum a bit of a tribute to Doyle mccormack ? He was instrumental in the rebuilding of the 4449 and that Nickel Plate PA was rebuilt by him because it brought back great memories of his youth , riding with his engineer father on the Nickel Plate. Interesting side note I recently discovered that the idea for the Freedom Train was suggested to the man who would become director of the project by none other than the great John Wayne !

Does this locomotive still operate?

Did you see the the port of Tillamook bay railroad locomotives at the plane hanger

I know about the 6 10 it is at the Texas state railroad awesome locomotive both cool

So when did steam excursions started?

Sherman peabody as Southern pacific 4449

In your opinion what do you think is the no.1 most famous American steam locomotive?

4999 is day light but its sister is the freedom train

Isn't the 2472 at Nile Canyon now?

I don't recognizethe 197, but it looks like a bigger version of the 2248

i want back the sp diesel locomotives

There's an sp gt2 #4460

What about the sp&s railroad

Very nice locomotive. The cab seems a bit similar to the French 141R (made in USA). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCF_Class_141R

Might I be so brave to say none of that would have ever happened, if it wasn't for the unsung hero that never gets the credit he deserves, May God Rest his soul. That I speak of is no other than Christopher Brian McCarney. Now there's a story to do. How at 16 with a backpack full of tools he rode is bike 10 Mi to Oaks Park from Hollywood every Saturday to work on 700. This was in 1975 after Chris one done working on the Freedom Train. This is not to take anything away from 4449. In fact in later years in the 80s he was a crew member on the 49 and went to make the movie the tough guys. What the Freedom Train had was the funding to make it happen. But Chris had didn't have anything but a strong back and a crescent wrench! There's a lot of names in groups I could drag through the mud telling the story. but I know Chris would not want it that way . But 1975 the guy that started to to bring the 700 back to life. He was the beginning of all the restoration efforts that you now see in Portland and it was Chris who envisioned that Heritage Center. Maybe not in its current form.He was the guy that envision the idea that they had to get out of the Brooklyn roundhouse.he knew a place to go to be . Because he knew all the equipment could be scrapped within a blink of an eye. So, if they didn't have a home, all efforts and Acquisitions were in vain. He developed as a mindset that the Pacific Railroad restoration associate should never buy another piece of equipment nor we should never turn another wrench,until we have a secure place for that equipment. Where has on most Saturdays most members wanted to come down and play Train, he insisted that what you see today must happen and that is a result of it right there. In the end there were a lot of people that contributed in the restoration of the 700 who was that kid on a 10 speed bike or the drive-in is got it got it done or not or whatever would have happened trust me. You never saw Glory but rather was very the studious introvert Renaissance Man of steam. In reality Chris requested was be left alone to be with his machines

Umm you know there is gs-6 4460

:) ik im beautiful

N&W #611 (triggered)

The narrator plays loose with the facts in numerous instances or just doesn't know what he is talking about ... too bad.