Rubberized Undercoating Will Destroy Your Car!

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Rubberized Undercoating Will Destroy Your Car!

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In this video we have a look at a Chevrolet Silverado that has had the Ziebart undercoating sprayed on it every year since it was new. In our experience here in the salt belt this type of rubberized undercoating WILL DESTROY your vehicle. Unfortunately this vehicle will not make it past ten years old before the frame is completely rotted in half, despite the customer doing what he thought was right. Be sure to do your research folks before applying any type of "coating" under your vehicle.
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@SouthMainAuto 11 ай бұрын

I try to speak really clear and slow in the video however that does not seem to be to effective so I will write it out here as slow as I can type so you can follow along: A: This was not a DIY at home job after the truck was already rusted. This truck was sprayed by Ziebart here in NY the day it was purchased NEW before the customer took delivery of the vehicle. I have the receipts to prove it. B: Every year after the original date of purchase it was taking in to Ziebart to have the coating "reapplied" per their recommendation to "keep the warranty." C: This shit will destroy your car no matter how much "surface prep" you do. I have been working in the salt belt as a mechanic for over 25 years. This stuff that Ziebart sprays on is complete shit and will 100% destroy your vehicle at an accelerated rate. D: Use Fluid Film, Krown, NOHC, surface shield or some other for of "oil undercoating" if you live in the rust belt and want your car to last more than 11 years E: You have a nice day 👍🏼

@matthewnaughton9642 11 ай бұрын

I heard you the first time! lol, good work. Nice channel

@Cara.314 11 ай бұрын

i have an idea, stop using salt on the roads.

@iindium49 11 ай бұрын

Wow. This is the first I've ever heard of this .

@JohnPlissken 11 ай бұрын

@@Cara.314 Tell that to the Frost Giants. If they stop pissing snow on the roads, we will stop throwing down salt.

@wjye 11 ай бұрын

Spot on and absolutely correct.

@janegerrard1073 3 жыл бұрын

Old Landrovers have a nice self-oiling chassis system, it'll even oil your driveway for you.

@sahhull 3 жыл бұрын

No oil under it, no oil in it. Same goes for Fords and Vauxhalls

@deezzam4672 3 жыл бұрын

Lol a friend of mine had a honda with a self changing oil system.

@Videomoth 3 жыл бұрын

And the Land rovers oil system doesn't glue your wiring harnesses together. Win-win.

@m1tch3l41 3 жыл бұрын

My bmw does the same

@Platinum1812 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, must be chevy trying to add luxury features but my old suburban does a great job keeping its undercarriage and the driveway well coated.

@nmattcar 5 жыл бұрын

We all know one great rust proofing method just have a huge oil leak..

@Shmbler 5 жыл бұрын

Fix oil leak for inspection and enjoy your rusty engine block a year later. So frustrating every time...

@dartman1965 5 жыл бұрын

And it seals your driveway......lol

@jaronking9484 5 жыл бұрын

We have an old 98 freightliner FL70 with an 8.3 Cummins that leaks oil bad. No rust on the frame at all it undercoats itself while driving down the road. Only rust from the salt is on the side mounted fuel tanks under the doors and the top part of the steel deck.

@johnb9394 5 жыл бұрын

I have a 99 Dodge Cummins with the corrosion protection feature too.

@nfb615 5 жыл бұрын

We my Honda Civic is golden then. Check the fuel and fill the oil.

@18matts 5 жыл бұрын

I got some rust in my eyes from watching this video Lol

@JesusSaves86AB 5 жыл бұрын

I instinctively squinted when the rust started flying

@TheOzthewiz 5 жыл бұрын

@18matts: OUCH!

@amtank 5 жыл бұрын

Do you know the way?

@RustOnWheels 3 жыл бұрын

Driveway mechanics laying under their classic car unbolting things will instantly recognize this feeling. 😅

@taterater1052 3 жыл бұрын

@@RustOnWheels Or a 1/8inch thick layer of leaking oil and dirt falling everywhere lol

@ChristianWTR1 5 жыл бұрын

Hate rust? Buy any jeep with the 4.0 they come with anti rust lubricants straight from the valve cover, rear main, and oil filter elbow

@profitlemon5004 5 жыл бұрын

the differentials also stay pretty rust free because of the pinion seals

@nickhall263 5 жыл бұрын

oh a bit like land rovers, known for getting the sump gaskets redone before the new owner had even picked the thing up

@Beandiptheredneck 5 жыл бұрын

My 94 f150 has the 300 six. All the same oil leaks and then some... not a single stuck bolt on the back half of the engine lol

@myes344 5 жыл бұрын

I see what u did there. 👍

@banzay1 5 жыл бұрын

I think mine was broken, it didn't leak from any those spots...

@jonbrockman5308 10 ай бұрын

My grandfather owned a ziebart from the 60s to the early 90s. They switched material and thought no one would notice. The original is an oil based self healing material. One application lasts the life of the vehicle. I restore cars in wisconsin and I can definitely tell if a car from here was ziebarted from New. It won't flake off EVER and the steel underneath is like brand new. They used to have a rust out guarantee of 10 years if I remember correctly. Also paid to repair it if it did rust. This is why he got out. Because of what your showing now.

@Dixler683 9 ай бұрын

@jonbrockman5308, I remember the original Ziebart. It would leak from the car for weeks, especially on hot summer days. It was pliable and would flow, not like this crap in the video.

@jonbrockman5308 7 ай бұрын

@@Dixler683 still have a few drums of the original stuff. Gonna use it on a few restorations possibly.

@EatenBird 6 ай бұрын

Is there any info about the original composition left? And was it applied "as is" (room temperature) or some heated? I know one military-purposed composition for equipment conservation for decades (something like cannon fat) and it`s pretty bushy and needs to be slightly warmed to be applied. In cold seasons (after application) it doesn`t harden like rubberrized coat or mastic and remains on the metal surface without the formation of air bags for moisture. In first hot season after application it could have been dripping from under the car for week or two.

@Radar88269 2 ай бұрын

@@EatenBird I've had a Ziebart store for over 30 years and I can tell you Ziebart DID NOT change its undercoating!!!!! It was and still is an asphalt based product! I can assure you that what's in this video IS NOT a Ziebart product. Sadly some owners are not using a true Ziebart undercoat product but a cheaper rubberized coating. Many have since gone out of business after being caught. Sorry your friend got scammed. As you surely know it only takes a few shady mechanics to give all mechanics a bad name. I thought you would realize that before trashing a company.

@EatenBird 2 ай бұрын

@@Radar88269 I guess you made a mistake - I didn't speak negatively about Ziebart product. I just asked about composition (and you mentioned it`s rubberized coating). Maybe your answer is addressed to jonbrockman5308?

@matthewv6298 3 жыл бұрын

I literally just got a quote from ziebarts 2 hours ago. This video just saved my truck.

@oldsmobileaurora7418 3 жыл бұрын

Get it done anyways 😜 it might work out pleasantly for u.

@mac2k2020 3 жыл бұрын

if the job is done by professional you will not have those issues they will take care of the rust first and not spray cables , brake lines etc , if you do a shitty job then yes water can get inside just like any other kind of coating or paint

@mrfish3961 3 жыл бұрын

ZIEBART DEALER

@larryt7001 3 жыл бұрын

You’re probably the most informative mechanic I’ve seen on here. There are other good ones who sold out more to sponsors but you have maintained your legitimacy. Thank You!!!!

@curiousnomadic 11 ай бұрын

I've been trusting Scotty Kilmer and he recommended RUST BULLET but he's from Texas and doesn't know a damn thing about road salt. Argh.

@jaredpaulsen3 11 ай бұрын

@@curiousnomadic Scotty has some helpful information, however he has sold out to the click bait algorithm, the more the days go by the more I see him flying off his rocker like Uncle Tony's garage has been doin. Opinionated, but not factually accurate.

@curiousnomadic 11 ай бұрын

@@jaredpaulsen3 He does clickbait like crazy. It's annoying.

@michaellavery4899 10 ай бұрын

@@curiousnomadic The clickbaiting has become disgraceful. Scotty used to be worth listening to but now I just question if he's saying something for cash.

@simplydub 5 жыл бұрын

55,000 looks like 400,000

@SpicyBloodBean 5 жыл бұрын

my Michigan driven f250 has 400k and looks better than this

@overknight5278 5 жыл бұрын

david mcknight my 16 year old 160k mile mistubushi looks 10/10 better.... only surface rust on some rock guards, and the rest has plastic coverings

@johnazhderian5734 5 жыл бұрын

Its looks like its been in Atlantic ocean for thirty years.

@willytrouble88 4 жыл бұрын

The bigger reason that GM and Chrysler have major corrosion issues is due to reduced costs in metal plating processes at the factory. Nothing is cadmium played anymore and hex chrome has been eliminated on anything 2010 and newer due to environmental and cost. Same problem in the aerospace industry. New Cessna 172’s have major corrosion issues in the tail section after just a few years. Yet a chromated tail section from a 1955 Cessna 172 still looks brand new today. Build it cheap....build it fast....sell it at a high price....shorter service life. My 2007 Lexus chassis (all hex chrome and cad plated parts) has minimal rust and I live in the Midwest where we have nuclear road salt. This year I will give fluid film a try.

@chiefoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын

My 03 Silveraydoe 210k miles looks better than this. Jesus

@sledrelics 5 жыл бұрын

bad rear main seal and a bad rear end pinion seal are the best under coating you can get.

@evilwoodchuck 5 жыл бұрын

lol, just take your used motor oil and put it in a pressure sprayer and coat the underside of your car with it

@sledrelics 5 жыл бұрын

Hey thats not a bad idea.

@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg 5 жыл бұрын

@@evilwoodchuck My uncle used to do exactly that. Said it was a pretty standard service for mechanic shops in the 1950s.

@blue_beetle368 5 жыл бұрын

My Jaguar was "factory designed" to have automatic undercarriage rust preventative treatment. About a liter every 2000 miles.

@newtonraymond77 5 жыл бұрын

I owned a 1995 s320 with a bad rear main seal and not one bit of rust under the car

@turboshottho 10 ай бұрын

the total disregard for spraying serviceable components on the underside is absolutely criminal

@Van-tastic 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 1974 Porsche 914 that was Zeibart coated when new. Much of the coating held up, but not everywhere. Overall it saved the car from a lot of rust. But mainly in areas where the metal was able to be coated on both sides.

@JRay2113 11 ай бұрын

The issue is that you’re taking a chance

@TwoDollarGararge 10 ай бұрын

I have a 944 you are mostly correct that it saves the under neath I'm having the opposite issue My car is rotting out from the inside lol

@BoleDaPole 10 ай бұрын

Perhaps Porsche uses a better grade of metal?

@narfharder 10 ай бұрын

@@BoleDaPole I wonder if it was 1974 that used a better grade of metal.

@svenp6504 5 жыл бұрын

The truck was fine until you rusted it with your screwdriver!

@MrZucchinii 5 жыл бұрын

that bad air!

@macfisher4004 5 жыл бұрын

@@MrZucchinii I was thinking the same thing.

@ericnarvaiz9947 5 жыл бұрын

Yah it’s not your truck should’ve never started scraping all over his truck bad for business buddy

@axtra92 5 жыл бұрын

Kidding?

@puddingistastyapples 5 жыл бұрын

I sure that's what the company would say

@chrisE815 3 жыл бұрын

I always intended to buy a few cans and apply rubberized undercoating... Glad I was too lazy to get around to it!

@vendomnu 3 жыл бұрын

Laziness is rather productive when you consider the avoided re-doing of stuff. I'd fist bump you, but...ehh...

@apersonontheinternet8006 3 жыл бұрын

Engine oil cut with diesel and a dirt or gravel road is all you need.

@explosivemallard8038 3 жыл бұрын

@@apersonontheinternet8006 Project farm tested engine oil and diesel as a rust preventative product. Its results are very un-inspiring and pretty much as good as doing nothing.

@0xsergy 3 жыл бұрын

@@explosivemallard8038 a big jug of professional stuff(FluidFilm) is only like 50 bucks and it'll last you years. Ain't worth fuckin around with engine oil.

@nfspaz716 3 жыл бұрын

Same here! 😂🤣

@dickieradd 2 жыл бұрын

I searched for how to apply this. Instead, I found this video and you saved me. Thank you so much.

@nathanosman5606 5 ай бұрын

The same happened to me today😂 Legend

@30AndHatingIt 11 ай бұрын

4 or 5 years ago, I worked for a tree service. One day they asked me to get in their 1987 Silverado and head to a job site. When I looked at it I was amazed at how nice it was. I asked if they got it out of state and they said no, it was a local truck. I asked if they only drive it in summer, they said no they drive it all winter. At this point I’m flabbergasted and asked them what kind of sorcery is this? Oil. They asked me to go look under my rusty Jeep, and when I did, I saw that the only spot without rust on it, literally gorgeous paint still there, was where it was leaking oil (good ol’ Jeep 4.0 inline 6 tractor engine). Made a believer out of me. All those coatings out there? Junk. At best they last a short while, at worst (the subject of this video) they speed up rot. JUST OIL YOUR SH**!

@tirdkat6104 10 ай бұрын

Fluid Film would probably be a better solution than oil. Easier to apply (comes in spray cans or you can an air compressor), non-flammable, and may stay on a little better than motor oil, and better for the environment than leaving oil everywhere you go.

@illhaveanother4365 10 ай бұрын

@@tirdkat6104 oil comes from the ground genius

@allmycarsisbroke 10 ай бұрын

@@illhaveanother4365 So does Radon, Plutonium, Arsenic, virtually every kind of deadly mushroom, and so do centipedes, round worms, and cyanobacteria. And so does water. Since oil coming from the ground means it's perfectly harmless, how about this: go pour a quart of oil in a small pot, cook yourself a pack of Top Ramen in it, and eat it. Let's see how that works out for you, genius. I'd be amazed if you managed to get the electric stove turned on without blowing your house up somehow.

@30AndHatingIt 8 ай бұрын

UPDATE: I sent the old WJ off to a farm, dude still drives it out there so I’m happy she’s still alive. I scored a rust-free Cherokee from Florida and just paid $130 to have it oil sprayed at some place locally. Wish me luck y’all.

@kenj.8897 8 ай бұрын

@@illhaveanother4365why so mad ? Fluid film isn't oil

@TampaTec 5 жыл бұрын

Kinda satisfying watching you peel off that rubber and see what's under it. Looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen, that really sucks your friend paid for that rubber coat service and it destroyed his truck. Thanks for the heads up bro!

@ThisIsSolution 5 жыл бұрын

The rust destroyed the truck though

@loktom4068 5 жыл бұрын

Lawyer fee$ co$t more than that truck.

@synth505 5 жыл бұрын

@@1968zz4350 What a dumb analogy. There is no comparison. So with your logic... people typically go into a store to prevent their eyelashes from falling out? Idiot. The undercoating is bought FOR the purpose of preventing rust when in fact it does the exact opposite... it promotes rust and seeking damages in this case should be sought by the buyer.

@ishiioutcasts 5 жыл бұрын

I genuinely cannot understand the people attacking this comment. People making it out like there is some frivolous lawsuit epidemic. Cases like this are literally the reason why the civil judicial system exists. If you bought a product from a store, that claimed to meet or exceed all US regulations, you brought that product home, and it did not work, would you not try and return it? What if the store told you "tough shit"? What if they had a sign outside that outlined their return policy, which was conveniently missing when you returned? What if instead of simply not working, the product had an adverse affect on your health? Your safety? Are you telling me you'd lie down and take it? If the product caused your home to burn to the ground, would you be satisfied with a simple refund? Would you not even try to recoup the value of your destroyed property? The simple fact is, this person purchased a product that not only did not work as advertised, but also caused damage to this person's property, to which the product was applied.

@justinczichray1682 5 жыл бұрын

They don't even get a lawsuit for a truck that's rusting through the rear fenders after 5 years. I mean fuck why aren't stainless steel brake lines mandatory unless there's some stupid Flex issue which could be alleviated by a rubber hose section that's easy to replace.

@TheWwong 5 жыл бұрын

Dang, owner of that truck is probably still making monthly payments on it.

@GeneralRELee 5 жыл бұрын

ICU2 he'll probably still be paying it off when it's sitting in the salvage yard next year

@tqdinh2 5 жыл бұрын

😂

@brad8665 5 жыл бұрын

This is actually extremely common in the rust belt. It’s very sad. I live in Vermont, close to upstate ny. The rust is just as bad. Trucks these days don’t make it to see a decade before the rocker panels are rotted out and hanging down and the wheel wells are bubbling and perforated with rust. My 2013 Chevy frame looks like it’s been submerged in the ocean. Rust and flaking paint front to back on the frame. Body is okay though... for now. I suspect I’ll still be making payments on it when the body starts to rust out. And when it’s paid off I’ll be left with a pile of junk I can’t sell for a couple grand. I see trucks on a daily basis that are 2009 or 2010 model year that are so rusty they’ll see the crusher by this time next year. My 09 ford had about had it before I bought my Chevy. The cab corners were pretty bad and the rockers were totally gone. Next truck will be likely be some 90’s-2000’s cheap thing from down south. Way better of then spending another 20k on a half rotted truck.

@Khang602 5 жыл бұрын

I can't believe that 2013 car is rust. My friend has 1993 Acura, and he is living in Maryland. His car is fine. I think the dealership or manufacture did not put anti-rust or coat before selling cars.

@bencrosbie 5 жыл бұрын

He can stop paying and tell them to keep it lol 😂

@Thompsongs Жыл бұрын

I am so glad I decided to do some research, when I was wanting to protect my Florida-bought vehicle from rust belt problems. That research led me to videos such as this, and led me to get that car treated with Krown rather than a rubberized coating.

@LaNoire27 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! I live in MICHIGAN and bought a vehicle from Tennessee and was wondering which is best to use for this.

@Thompsongs 10 ай бұрын

@@LaNoire27 I think fluid film coatings are the best thing ever.

@DL101ca 10 ай бұрын

Any oil coating will work,as it leaves a layer on the metal preventing oxidization ...lanolin or petroleum doesn't matter. Make sure it's liquid enough to creep into all crevices .

@joesilverbliss1721 2 жыл бұрын

I made a big mistake putting the Z undercoating on my 2014 silverado. Fortunately I got it off, it mostly fell off, using a needle scaler, scrapers etc. It was a rusty mess underneath. Cleaned it all off and used rustoleum rust reformer and black spray paint. I was the damage was minimal. I have used fluid film inside the frame box and now CRC Marine coating is my new favorite. So don't do the Z coating you will regret it. I agree 👍. Joe

@ShainAndrews 5 жыл бұрын

That is horrendous, and potentially deceitful. I'd be inclined to think the only reason they want you to re-apply every year is to ensure the damage remains hidden.

@ajh9187 5 жыл бұрын

I believe it is because they make another sale every year. more money for them, thats why they are in business .

@avinsiniara6576 5 жыл бұрын

Probably the idea Originally had been to Seal any possible holes of the coating after thorought checktrough of them and proper cleaning of them etc... give it 50 years of cost saving and trying to be more efficient... and here we are

@avinsiniara6576 5 жыл бұрын

@TheOtherWhiteBread0 corrosion of metal requires oxygen, how do you prevent it? ,)

@mrharden11 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I saw this, I’ll be canceling my under coating at Ziebart

@alexanderjaviervazquezsant4530 4 жыл бұрын

Oil base is the best one , not rubber

@TwoTall1988 4 жыл бұрын

So, did you catch it before you had any coatings? If you already have 1 it's too late.

@ollie2244 4 жыл бұрын

I have a car the had Ziebart applied to the underside in 1979, it it mint under there! If you scratch it back the paint is as good as new. The engine bay is perfect, no welding. The only rust I have is the areas not covered in ziebart.

@debtminer4976 4 жыл бұрын

@@ollie2244 I'm sure it works very well in Arizona 🙄 Ziebart is horrible in the rust belt, as evidenced in this video. Plus, you're not getting the same quality materials, as were common in 1979. Engineering has come a long way since then, but so has ''value engineering''.

@ollie2244 4 жыл бұрын

@@debtminer4976 I'm from the UK, it rains every other day here, and in the winter they throw salt everywhere, that said you're absolutely right, Ziebart probably used a far more toxic formula void of regulations back in the 70's which made it better and more durable than the modern stuff. No doubt the steel was better too! I'm not saying all steel comes from China now, but it all comes from China..."they don't build 'em like they used to".

@edgardelorentz862 Жыл бұрын

We need more people like u. You are not afraid to expose and complaint about this type of issue. I appreciate very much your info.

@amarsta 11 ай бұрын

Home Depot had the same problem with their deck coatings. If you're going to try blocking water, you have to coat ALL sides. That frame had factory holes in it. I doubt it was coated inside there

@crisnmaryfam7344 10 ай бұрын

All sides and in the absents of moisture. IF even the tiniest bit of rust has started, its useless. This is why body people cut so much back from the rusty spot. Almost like cancer, you have to cut away some of the good to make sure you get all the bad... leave a tiny bit, and it comes back with a vengeance 100x worse.

@andreo 5 жыл бұрын

I"m shocked that Ziebart is still around. As a kid I remember seeing a lot of cars that were rusted to heck but had a Ziebart sticker on it.

@parochial2356 5 жыл бұрын

Ziebart was all over Detroit in the 1970s. IIRC, they offered a no rust warranty. If their stuff is 90% useless due to improper application procedures, why haven't the warranty claim ate them up financially? How they still exist is beyond me. "It's us or rust" used to be their slogan. Guess they should have said "It's us FOR rust". :)

@scottkemp1460 5 жыл бұрын

ziebart does a good job i have seen many cars after a long term in the salt the cars always hold up well

@SI0AX 5 жыл бұрын

It's most likely the *used* to do a good job, then went to cost saving methods as seen here, which involves just lazily spraying everything. You are *not* supposed to spray electrical connectors, those are made of plastic, will not rust and now it can't be maintained, lol @@scottkemp1460

@4DIYers 5 жыл бұрын

I believe they offer a non rubberized/tar coating as well. My Tacoma has the Zeibart plugs, but it appears to have an oil spray instead. I wouldn't touch a vehicle with that tar/rubberized type coating.

@joebuddha970 3 жыл бұрын

You, my friend, just changed my life.

@mikep4745 11 ай бұрын

So glad I stumbled upon this video. I was going to have LINE-X applied to my new 4Runner since I live in Ohio (salty winter roads). You saved me $400 for the application and the likely premature destruction of my new vehicle. Thank-you.

@DL101ca 10 ай бұрын

Do a krown oil spray, works great. They drill and spray rocker panels on the inside as well to make sure everything is coated in oil. My truck is 8years old lives outside 24/7 and driven in the Ontario Salt mine roads..😂 but no rust to be seen on the underside.

@mikep4745 10 ай бұрын

I ended-up w/ DIY Fluid Film application. Not as good as what you describe, but certainly better than nothing at all.@@DL101ca

@jeffnorbert1871 10 ай бұрын

Reminds me of what inevitably happens to fiberglass jacketed aluminum driveshafts. One little crack in the jacket and the rot begins. The engineering goal was to eliminate sound transmission from the aluminum tube. Minor explosions of the jacket aren't unusual and in the worst case the aluminum tube can fail. May lead to serious injury or death. It's okay though because it'll probably hold together for a few years usually. My younger brother worked at a Ziebart back in the late 1970's and they sold cars and boats out of their showroom too. Of course everything they sold had that garbage applied to it. Including a 1970 Torino Cobra 429 SCJ. 4 speed car obviously including the Drag Pack. Beautiful dark blue car with rear window slats. Seem to recall it was $3995. What a shame.

@stuartcookie133 5 жыл бұрын

I should have Ziebarted my ex-wifes truck. Hind sights always 20-20!

@adamm2716 5 жыл бұрын

oh, that's funny

@hanskinslo326 5 жыл бұрын

NICE!

@cpufreak101 5 жыл бұрын

Will keep in mind, a Ziebart gift certificate is a great gift for your enemies in the salt belt

@ThePhoenixw68 5 жыл бұрын

#chessnotcheckers

@jeremy13bravo 5 жыл бұрын

Stuart, I should of just ziebarted my ex-wife.

@alant5757 4 жыл бұрын

Hey... I live in California and I finally found something good about California... our cars don’t rot like those on the east coast. But that’s pretty much about all I can come up with.

@droneboy5415 4 жыл бұрын

True but the sun tends to damage paint more in the west coast

@vearheart42 4 жыл бұрын

East coast? You mean the mid West right? No salt around here in North Carolina.

@markochipsmarkochips3866 4 жыл бұрын

living in California which is controlled by democrats... you have paid so much more in taxes.. other states ... you could have afforded to purchase another vehicle. and still have your freedoms still intact. Never vote democrat and live free from their tyranny

@droneboy5415 4 жыл бұрын

@@markochipsmarkochips3866 lol im in california and im as free as a bird.... funny thing is more things are outlawed in conservative states like weed

@atypical_moto 4 жыл бұрын

Same with AZ. Still no reason to live in CA 😋

@twotex4235 Жыл бұрын

Wow, man. This is eye opening. I planned on under coating myself for this season coming up

@salvatorebaleno9807 3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU for showing this. I can't believe how many people they get to fall for this.

@infernaldaedra 10 ай бұрын

I believe the problem is improper prepping before application. Most of these are probably just lifted and sprayed

@eligaller9190 4 жыл бұрын

The best rust protection method i know so far is 1. removing carefully all rust with different steelbrushes, 2. apply brunox with a brush (rust converter + epoxy primer, very expensive but it works very well) 3. spray ropefat, repeat after 2-3 years. It works for me in central europe where they have to put ridiculous amounts of salt/chemicals on the roads through the winter time.

@anotherdrunkaspiringwriter 8 ай бұрын

Wtf is ropefat

@harmac521 6 ай бұрын

@@anotherdrunkaspiringwriter epoxy coating paint

@ryanbruneau1197 5 жыл бұрын

Phil Swift here with FLEX SEAL!!!!!!!

@memyself4682 5 жыл бұрын

Ryan Bruneau LOL that's great

@squatchfromearth4076 5 жыл бұрын

That's alotta damage!!

@ericmcguire5469 5 жыл бұрын

"Do you have a brand new car that you thing your gonna protect by sealing your underside? Well try out new flex shot frame sealer" DISCLAIMER: MAY ROT FRAME

@adventureoflinkmk2 5 жыл бұрын

HEY GUYS, BILLY MAYS HERE!!!

@littledeel 5 жыл бұрын

Flexon 💪

@jeffarcher400 11 ай бұрын

I've battled rust on old cars and saltwater boats and trailers. The rust converter products that turn the metal black actually change the metal and lock out oxidation. If the rust is deep it will bubble up again. Chipping away the surface before treatment helps. In a very good KZfaq video there's a test and POR product won decisively. I've just started that one a year ago and it is doing good. Forms a hard black paint able surface. Farm lab is the site or something. They mostly use a zinc phosphate reaction and will turn skin purple. Use gloves. After several coats I use a marine grade zinc primer and marine paint for the sea and cheaper Rust-Oleum for the land. Make sure you don't have slow electric leaks as that can increase rust tenfold. Clean channels along trunk weatherstrip so water flows. Same with drain holes. Check it yearly because rust never sleeps.

@youtube-handle-are-a-joke 11 ай бұрын

The problem is not the undercoating, it's completely useless to reaply every year, they trap moisture, grime and rust by doing so. As you say do not do that. It doesn't matter if it's a professional or a diy. If the factory undercoating start to get loose (bubble) or peel off it's better to just scrappe it and not put anything on it than put back undercoating on it. I've seen moisture trapped for 6 month between layers of steel on frames on cars parked in a dry environment for that much time, so if you put undercoating on that it's gonna be even worth. An exception are Mercedes from the 60's thru early 80's the cars desintegrate under the factory undercoating without any visible clue. When you see it, it's too late, you'll need new floors, new fenderwell and frame rails.

@vechenzovazquez5943 3 жыл бұрын

Person: Can you save it? 😰 Mechanic: I’m sorry..... it won’t live 10 years

@InteloPL 3 жыл бұрын

I mean... It could, but i would mean welding the frame

@kokobeatz7222 3 жыл бұрын

Only a mechanic and a doctor get asked that question. Lol

@whitneyeaton5585 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the TRUTH!

@sflotr 2 жыл бұрын

Vehicle won't even outlast the loan.

@frontxxrunner 5 жыл бұрын

I can imagine why he'd refuse to work on cars with that crap. What a mess.

@donerae8682 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah cant even get sockets on bolts

@METALHEAD9376 4 жыл бұрын

Working on cars like this is an everyday occurrence in uk/ireland, which i was a mechanic in the US instead of here lol

@mrfish3961 3 жыл бұрын

@@donerae8682 BRAKE LINES

@terrybriand5360 10 ай бұрын

I rescued a 1970 Landcruiser that was 25 years old, it had been on a riverbank, and was completely covered in water at least 2 years in a row, that I saw. It had been ziebart treated when new. The frame, brake lines and even bleeders were like new. I scraped a bit of coating off to see original paint on the frame. Real ziebart, installed on a new, clean frame, will outlive anyone.

@SouthMainAuto 10 ай бұрын

Maybe in the little fantasy land part of the world you live in

@democrat7441 10 ай бұрын

I have a 70s dodge truck that was built with heavy use of galvanized steel. It's fifty years old with no rust. Built to last. A different mind set back then.

@jfan4reva 5 жыл бұрын

I thought you were kind of wimping out, complaning about working on a rusty vehicle until you showed all of the hose and electrical connectors. What a nightmare!

@Cheepchipsable 5 жыл бұрын

LOL, you mustn't have watched many videos. The amount of rust that rains out of those cars when he does any suspension related work is incredible. I though he was pretty clear about the problem. Plus it adds to he cost having to work through the coating to get to the problems. He is likely to get complaints that someone's buddy had the same problem on the same car and it cost less.

@eleeter 5 жыл бұрын

FYI that stuff can be effective IF you are coating a panel that has been primed, painted and is 100% clean and dry. And has no rust. Which means it worthless for the types of applications Ziebart is using it on.

@Brian424 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video! I'm currently looking for a reputable place nearby that will do a good, thorough job of undercoating my recently-purchased 2022 Ram using Fluid Film, Woolwax, or similar. You saved me from the horror of even considering the rubberized undercoatings.

@SouthMainAuto 11 ай бұрын

Glad I could help

@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 3 жыл бұрын

"If you can't see it, it doesn't exist!" - Undercoating Manufacturer

@brjr2009 5 жыл бұрын

I am sure when ziebart sees this you will be taken off of their Christmas card list.

@One-Crazy-Cat 5 жыл бұрын

Bill Rae probably a channel strike. They will cry. Lol.

@franklatin2411 5 жыл бұрын

They should have to cover the cost of the damage

@williamschuman4951 4 жыл бұрын

Guarantee, bahahahaaaa

@mrfish3961 3 жыл бұрын

DON,T CARE

@34boo 5 жыл бұрын

That crap was sprayed over rust.

@poopipeboy3033 5 жыл бұрын

It's a 2011 car that got it's first undercoat layer in the same year, no rust. Chevrolet doesn't exactly manufacture shipwrecks.

@glennzlotowski8020 5 жыл бұрын

Rusted after under the coating

@v1antbo 5 жыл бұрын

@@poopipeboy3033 GM makes piles of poop

@mrmidnight32 5 жыл бұрын

34boo no they actually come like that from the factory. It’s a terrible coating

@mrmidnight32 5 жыл бұрын

Drew Jackson what ever you do don’t look under your dodge or f150. They are doing the same shit.

@Snickls 11 ай бұрын

I'm a mechanic in Arizona, I had a customer that moved to a rustamania State, when he came back for a visit he stopped by my place to have a brake fluid leak repaired, it was a rusted out brake line covered with that black rubber crap. What a mess, the vehicle was just like the one in the video.

@SundeeStudios 11 ай бұрын

Where I live, there's a company that does anti-corrosion undercoating this way: 1. Remove the rear subframe, gearbox etc, so the car underneath is just frame. 2. Clean off rust until shiny metal. Where rust has gone through, reweld. Treat the whole frame with "Brunox", clean off, treat it again. 3. Spray the frame with anti-gravel spray. let it dry for a few days. Then Spray wax over the anti-gravel until it drips. Spray it in all cavities too. This method keeps cars alive here for 10+ years in winter, where roads are pure salt and mush. It's something similar to what VW and Audi used to their old cars. All those "Krown" oils and rust "treatment" oils are just nonsense and does nothing to keep the rust away in harsh conditions.

@davidnewcomb8874 4 жыл бұрын

For record my brother in law had a 1969 pontiac grand prix. It was so clean . He decided to rubber undercoat frame trying to save any corrosion over time. An appraiser told him he devalued the car because they cldnt see what was under the coating on frame . Hard lesson learned figured I'd share this experience

@MrCbell57 Жыл бұрын

The appraiser is partly right. But very little would it cause to devalue a car once you see that it is not hiding patch work beyond its original parts. Just need to look a little closer is all. Sounds to be like this guy was too lazy to give it a few more minutes of looking. It doesn't mean all cars are now devalued with undercoating's on them. And probably not even this one was substantially devalued enough to cause worry or loss. Don't believe anyone you listen to and for God sake don't post something just because now you believe what was being said! Truth is its all a matter of individuals who are buying or holding these investment vehicles. I'd rather mine be protected if I were driving it. If it is sitting in a climate controlled storage it wouldn't matter if it had undercoating or not. Thanks.

@0verload Жыл бұрын

@@MrCbell57 Not sure how your comment makes much sense. There is nothing good about this rubber undercoating. It's essentially the illusion of protection so not sure how your comment " I'd rather mine be protected if I were driving it" makes any real sense. Also unless the person gives the appraiser permission to chip this crap off and or is willing to do it himself how can the appraiser truly know what's underneath? He's not being lazy, he's being a realist. How or why would anyone with any legitimacy put their name on something where they couldn't even truly see some of the most important parts of what they were supposed to be inspecting?

@MrTheHillfolk 3 жыл бұрын

Ziebart dealer be like: you drove it in adverse conditions !

@guardrailbiter 3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Adverse conditions like "outside of my garage." :-)

@MrTheHillfolk 3 жыл бұрын

@@guardrailbiter That curb warranty. Once it's past the curb the warranty expires 😂

@betterbelizeit 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info - I would have never thought of the consequences of rubberized coatings.

@hedydd2 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting this. In Europe we tend to call this kind of stuff, that goes hard, ‘Shutz’ and the rust always rots steel underneath it. I spray a waxy stuff on all my trucks when new and it seals the paint for a good while. At around five years of age it benefits from a good clean and reapplication where obviously needed but otherwise a spray of clean engine oil does the job.

@TolandTheShattered 4 жыл бұрын

Been working on cars forever down south, customer came in from a road trip from the East coast. I’ve never seen such a rust bucket. I’ll never bitch about the heat down here again, all our cars are in pristine condition (regarding rust) and it’s just astounding to me.

@mickmastroianni8388 3 жыл бұрын

I had my Jeep undercoated when I bought it, then found out what a mistake it was, a month or so later. Luckily it was only done one time, and I managed to save my truck through use of a lot of fluid film, pressure washing and many hours with a wire brush lol. My frame and suspension are luckily still in great shape. My wallet and pride, not as much.

@toddjackson3328 2 жыл бұрын

so glad to read your reply - I made the Ziebart mistake - what a scam too! Hope I can rescue it with Krown or Fluid Film

@platty9237 2 жыл бұрын

And here I am, a car noob, thinking “Hrrm.. that stuff is probably a decent sound dampener.” It’s a good wake up call, especially since I’m in the market for a used car right now. I’ll be sure to put a lot of research into any modifications.

@NjoyMoney 11 ай бұрын

Has nothing to do with the product and everything to do with the person who applied it. I live in finland and every single car is undercoated with rubberized undercoating with 0 issues.

@Whillie_Whonka1 11 ай бұрын

@@NjoyMoney somehow I doubt you can speak for the condition of every car in Finland

@NjoyMoney 11 ай бұрын

@@Whillie_Whonka1 i never claimed i did, learn to comprehend what you read before trying to be a smartass

@23ofSeptember 11 ай бұрын

Its funny because anytime I've ever seen a used car for sale, no one ever says "has the undercoating" or "rock chip guard" Everyone knows its a rip off.

@melovemusic69 2 ай бұрын

They shouldnt be allowed to do this . Im suprised they haven't been sued and shut down this type of service. Thanks brother

@YEETMachine3000 4 жыл бұрын

I always figured undercoatings were bad when they straight up said so in that episode of archer, but now it's double confirmed

@christiansutanto5892 3 жыл бұрын

Haha me too, that’s what Ron said right?

@hillbillyrigrepairs1814 5 жыл бұрын

I can imagine this product being applied to a rusted out vehicle in hopes of deceiving the potential buyer.

@SouthMainAuto 5 жыл бұрын

That is what the car dealers in our area do. See it everyday here.

@billybob-hv5hl 5 жыл бұрын

@@SouthMainAuto that's just sad. Glad you are educating the community. A 40k truck down the drain in 10 years is a hard pill to swallow

@andrewthompsonuk1 5 жыл бұрын

Was looking for a car once. I reached down and felt the nice smooth undersea. Then I tripped and grabbed the inner sill as I fell. The whole sill disintegrated destroying the outer sill as well. I was left trying to kick it back while making an excuse as to why I did not want a test drive. All with a brand new MOT.

@guyonearth 5 жыл бұрын

@@billybob-hv5hl 2011 truck built late in the model year might barely be 7 years old at this point....that would be an even harder pill to swallow.

@GunfighterWyo 5 жыл бұрын

Billy Bob, I would have had the RA if they did that to my new truck. Just as you finish paying for it, time for a new truck.

@bencelocher1958 2 жыл бұрын

Ruberized coating is a really great rust preventing material! The only problem is that many people spray it on the rust, before removing and coating it with this stuff. Otherwise it'll ruin your car, just like that car in the video

@JohnWieber Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad I watched this video. I just purchased a 2018 GMC from MI and I live in MN. I was going to have it undercoated in the next week. You just saved my you know what!!! Now I have to find your video on Fluid film.

@cowboydownyonder3860 4 жыл бұрын

Ziebart employees disliked this video. (also, I was considering having this done. thanks for saving my car)

@jimbarron8688 3 жыл бұрын

Wish I knew this year's ago when I used a rubberized product on my Prelude. The rust was thriving beneath the coating out of sight. When oil coatings became popular I started using them exclusively with exceptional results. Rust Check is an easy do it yourself product and if you're diligent an thorough you'll keep the rust away for a very long time.

@velocitydreamer Жыл бұрын

Loved those cars. FIrst car was a 4th Gen Prelude. Sexy curves!!

@lucluc2716 11 ай бұрын

Rust check for the win! I wish id know about the product before learning the hard way about rubberized undercoating. Bye bye rear bumper 😅

@Volksoner619 11 ай бұрын

This kind of shit is the worst. My work won’t refuse ANY work. Corporate ass hats. They also usually won’t get additional labor for repairs like this.

@spicytuna62 11 ай бұрын

I've got a '97 Type SH that was clearly a desert car. It must have sat out in the sun for 20 years because the paint is absolutely deep fried, but the car is entirely rust-free. It's got a couple of major dents that are purely cosmetic so I'm not sure if I'll have the body work done. I really just want to enjoy my car. It only gets driven on sunny days. I'd like for it to still be working another 10-15 years.

@tomrunning357 11 ай бұрын

Drove a 77 chev truck for 9 years and decided to buy a new 86 chev truck and the dealership sold me an under coating for it. The 86 is long gone but I still have and drive the 77 that was never undercoated.

@tompeter7326 2 жыл бұрын

in Germany we have plenty of salt in winter times on the road. Black "Bitumen" undercoating was popular for many years with same results as you show. I preferred the wax type undercoating therefor. Well refurbishing this frame will cost a fortune I guess, maybe with an ultra strong water sandblasting it could be achieved ...

@tirdkat6104 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, sounds like you're describing products like Wool Wax or Fluid Film (Not sure if those brands are sold there). That's the only way to do it. Spray it on every fall before winter if you're in a high-salt area, or every 2 years if it doesn't see as much salt.

@Neopiece007 5 жыл бұрын

Best Instructional Video Yet! Wow! You Literally Just Educated All Of Us And Save Us From A Disaster! Respect To You Sir! 😎

@Adabulldoya 3 жыл бұрын

Man this makes me glad to live in the south. Couldn’t imagine having to deal with stuff like that on a regular

@michaelb.7800 3 жыл бұрын

Amen to that s*** there isn't a drop of rust on my 1997 GMC Sierra 1500 extended cab she's exactly the way she rolled off the factory with over a million miles

@nicedreams7192 3 жыл бұрын

If you keep up with getting the salt off you can mitigate a lot of the damage. You'll still rust out, but you can slow it down significantly by just cleaning it off regularly.

@murphy874 3 жыл бұрын

Rochester,Ny here...when i take trips south i see mid 90s cars even earlier years look brand fuckinnew and here i am in my car with rusted hood and back wheel well rust and shit like damn im jealous man!! One of the things making me consider moving somewhere south.

@PukeSandwich 3 жыл бұрын

@@murphy874 totalitarian government didn't do it but the rust is chasing you out of NY? Yankees are a different breed good lawd.

@murphy874 3 жыл бұрын

@@PukeSandwich definitely said one of the things! Theres many things chasing me out of new york

@KentuckyRanger 10 ай бұрын

I use Fluid Film every fall on my 2015 Subaru Outback, and I swear by it!

@damonleeb 3 жыл бұрын

You can undercoat. Just people don’t understand that 90% of it is prep work. You can’t just Jack your car up and start spraying or else you’ll just get water stuck between

@andrewammary5988 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.. this video is misleading in a way.. he’s right that it’s a crap job.. he’s wrong that it’s the Undercoat’s fault rather than the poor prep work.

@joeschlotthauer840 4 жыл бұрын

Applied by a 16 year old "professional"

@asmongoldsmouth9839 4 жыл бұрын

No, anyone that uses rubberized undercoating is an idiot. It doesn't matter what age you are. Idiocy has no age bias... 😑

@SuperFunkmachine 4 жыл бұрын

@@asmongoldsmouth9839 The factory body schutz coatings are miles better then this tar.

@SteelBuckeye 4 жыл бұрын

Scrotum Monster You do realize he is talking about the z technician right?

@bastionwolf 3 жыл бұрын

@@SteelBuckeye I don't think he does....

@MegaGeorge1948 5 жыл бұрын

When I bought a brand new 1982 AMC 4X4 Eagle sedan, the car had "factory" Ziebart on the frame and body. Ziebart was very popular at the time. Around 8 years later the front passenger carpet started to smell musty. I went under the car and found that the floor had rotted away.

@toobglued 5 жыл бұрын

George Travers that sucks. those cars were ahead of their time .. 4x4 high clearance Sedan basically

@MegaGeorge1948 5 жыл бұрын

It was an AMC Concord body on top of a Jeep drive train. It had great ground clearance (7") and was great in the snow.

@mrdrproffesornoam 3 жыл бұрын

About to replace the rotted out bed on my truck and I was planning on applying this all over the frame. Its advertised as locking moisture out but apparently it also locks moisture in! Guess I'm going to stick with used hydraulic fluid and fluid film for life.

@robertpierce9385 3 ай бұрын

This makes me thankful of the south even more. I live in texas and my truck is 21 yrs old. I wouldn't trade it for a 2 yr old truck from new York. Tx ftw

@paulmoir4452 3 жыл бұрын

You missed the worst part of ZIebart: when my brother and I were small we would pick it off and throw it at each other. "Stop picking at the Ziebart!" my parents would exclaim. But we could not resist. Got it all through the carpet of the forgettable Chrysler station wagon's luxurious red carpet, and occasionally our hair. Like bubble gum but rather tarrier and worse.

@jdavis6618 3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@jstew4js 2 жыл бұрын

Lol any health issues develop?

@paulmoir4452 2 жыл бұрын

@@jstew4js We both are overly fond of scotch, but I'm guessing that's hereditary rather than environmental.

@ohdeerme 5 жыл бұрын

Thank You for doing this video. When my vehicle's undercarriage rusted away as a result of Ziebart I had to borrow another $ 10,000 to replace it. I watched your video on the Krown undercoating you did on your truck. The first thing I did to my car was have Krown put on. It is now coming up on it's 1 year anniversary and it's going back into Krown for it's annual application. I also live in the Rust Belt and after 1 year my undercarriage looks the SAME as when I bought it. Your opinion is Respected and you will save a LOT of people money if they take your advice !!!

@hanskinslo326 5 жыл бұрын

ohdeerme - glad you don't have the Ziebart product anymore!

@user-hi3uz5hb1t Жыл бұрын

Eric you are as professional as they come . Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise in a very humble way. keep the videos coming please .

@edkay3601 10 ай бұрын

it didn't destroy his truck! Ziebart has been in business for 65 years. if they were destroying trucks they would have died a long time age.

@KDHUNTER2012 3 жыл бұрын

wow! caught this video at the last second. Still got my receipts. Thank You again. AGAIN

@MortalOnlineJourney 5 жыл бұрын

What you are describing in this video is the result of a failed application of rubberized undercoating. I have been installing and correcting corrosion protection jobs for about 20 years. If the vehicle is already starting to experience corrosion (Even a couple days of salty driving will do it) and these products are applied without proper prep, it will result in the condition you cover in this video. These products need to be applied to clean metal on all the easily accesible surfaces on the undercarriage. Then, all the cavities such as the rockers, frame, bedsides, subframes, door skins etc need to be treated with a more fluid protection product such as fluid film or other similar products. During a professional installation, all connections that could cause mechanics problems like you describe SHOULD BE taped off. I've been in probably 100+ shops and maybe 5 of them installed these products correctly. It's a major scam and people are being ripped off because a barrel of product is at most $1000. One barrel will do 30-50 vehicles. Customers are paying almost the cost of the whole barrel for one application. These poor no prep jobs that result in horrible rust only take 30 minutes to do. Properly prepped and applied you're looking at about half a day on a 3/4 ton truck. So installers are not taking the time and ripping everyone off for quick profits, taking advantage of customers lack of knowledge. Properly applied, rubberized undercoating offers amazing benefits. But the only way to keep your vehicle completely free of terrible corrosion is to not drive in salt. Buy an older beater for the winter, you are actually saving your money on depreciation of newer vehicles if you do decide to go that route.

@buffalostate1 5 жыл бұрын

i agree. More prep . Defiantly was dirty or had moisture/salt on it before spraying.m i have a 2015 chevy and the stock frame coating is like tar. I heard u dont want to spray fluid film on it . they say it will eat it away?

@naegleriafowleri76 5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of doing this to my 2014 car, which has some rust spots on the control arms, but not anymore. Is there anything that can be done? Applied on top of it that would not cause this disaster? What about using a rust converter, encapsulator, they usually come in black

@biohazardlnfS 5 жыл бұрын

He said moisture gets stuck between the frame and the coating so sounds like it's not dry or eve. Small amounts cause massive rust out

@silverify 5 жыл бұрын

without any kind of protection, the car will last at least 20 years. How do you describe that.. If this ruins in a quicker time

@moodberry 5 жыл бұрын

I don't believe that there is a "proper" way to install a coating. It's the edges of ANY coating that will allow seepage of salt and water between it and the frame. Even if the coating is bonded to the metal, the edges will still allow seepage. Then, it's bye-bye frame. If I lived in the NE, I would consider a physical barrier between the frame and road, like they put underneath RVs. A plastic barrier that would prevent the salt from getting int here to begin with. Then, after the winter, remove it, wash the frame with fresh water until the next winter.

@joebob2872 5 жыл бұрын

Great video never thought of "rust proofing" my truck since I live in Texas but I'm glad I watched this video

@thomascervantes8508 5 жыл бұрын

I would say if anyone absolutely wants to rhino line the frame then take the cab and everything but the wheels off before they do.

@slateslavens 5 жыл бұрын

I think the only way to prevent rust on your vehicle is to get a horse....

@advancednutritioninc908 5 жыл бұрын

@@slateslavens But then you would have to deal with colic! :)

@JohnPlissken 11 ай бұрын

Everything wrong with this is because Ziebart is not using the product properly. 1: First of all, you do not spray the entire under side of the vehicle. You apply it to the chassis. 2: Do not apply this coating to fittings, they may need to be removed for work in the future. 3: Do not spray it on electrical components, this can damage connections, or cause overheating. 4: Do not apply it to any kind of cables, rotors, hinges, or other moving parts. It will either seize the parts or create gaps in the coating that allows moisture in. 5: In short, do not apply this to a finished vehicle undercarraige. It should be applied to the chassis before assembly. Clean, degrease, and then bake the chassis to remove any moisture or contamination, then apply the rubberized coating. Then assemble the vehicle on that. If done properly it should never come off, it definitely does not need to be reapplied every year, and it will protect from rust pretty much forever. I know mechanics like to blame engineers for shitty designs but I guaruntee the engineers who created this product would have very clearly explained all of this. It probably says it clearly right in the product manual. The majority of problems like this are actually the fault of the company cutting corners. The engineers design something right, they draw up the blueprints, write up some papers explaining in detail how it works and how to properly use it. Then the corporate office jockeys say "yeah but we could save $3.29 per unit if we do it completely f-ing wrong". And then when it rolls into the shop looking like it was pulled out of Katrina and then sat in a barn for 20 years, the engineers get blamed for it.

@Chad_Thundernuts 11 ай бұрын

Wow, I had no idea this happened! But it seems obvious now that I know. I'm glad I watched this video and know to avoid any car that's had this done 👍

@kj197734 5 жыл бұрын

One small open area with a rubberized undercoating will allow water and salt to enter and sit right in between the coating and metal. It would have to be flawless for it to work.

@Sharker2468 5 жыл бұрын

i'm a tech in vermont aka the rust belt, have a customer with an old ass truck, who just puts a regular ass garden sprinkler under his car every now and then, uses the car wash in winter if the hose is frozen, never been undercoated or anything like that, thing is spotless!!! just wash your damn car and rust wont be a problem

@Sackmatters 5 жыл бұрын

Sharker2468 lol rust in Vermont. I live in Alaska. Come see some real rust.

@BrentClarkDrums 5 жыл бұрын

Rosie O'Kelly it is. You can wash the undercarriage as often as you want. If you drive in salt water, washing ain't gonna do shit.

@Sharker2468 5 жыл бұрын

uhh water isnt the problem, salt is, so if you wash the salt off with clean water and theres no more salt=no more rust

@Sharker2468 5 жыл бұрын

we average the exact same amount of snow in a year? so i'm not sure what your point is, do you use more salt? or maintain your vehicles less?

@Sharker2468 5 жыл бұрын

ok well stick with the undercoating then

@oskarkropidlowski5300 4 ай бұрын

I bought a project car with stuff like this and now i can drive it like flintstones

@Cocoyz Жыл бұрын

This is an eye opening content. I am about to go for under coating b4 watching this, but now i will not waste my hard earned money for this thing. Thank you for this info.

@tmaq9726 5 жыл бұрын

Id say lawsuit for ziebart to fix, the one 35 miles away closed, wonder why, smh

@jaronking9484 4 жыл бұрын

They closed the one near me as well

@fewminutesfame 4 жыл бұрын

I love living in the rust belt where I can wrestle and break off seized bolts, poke holes through my rocker panels and cab corners, etc. Good times!

@williamschuman4951 4 жыл бұрын

Hell yes, party down.

@MisterMikeTexas 4 жыл бұрын

Is that still a problem with the newer vehicles?

@raccoon681 4 жыл бұрын

yes my uncle uses his floor as a speed gauge

@BennyBaller20 4 жыл бұрын

raccoon681 😂😂

@raccoon681 4 жыл бұрын

@@BennyBaller20 i was not joking about that there is a hole in it

@angrydingus5256 3 жыл бұрын

The scariest part is just how many tens of thousands (likely more) vehicles are rolling down the road nearly completely rusted/rotted in half. At least here in the south a car usually gets 20-30 years before getting anywhere near this bad.

@stevebutler812 9 күн бұрын

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@MacsWraps 4 жыл бұрын

I spray the Fluid Film on my 2010 Tacoma here in Ma. There was a frame recall on the 2010 for rust. The dealer couldn't find a hole, so they wanted to coat it with their crap. I said no. My mechanic told me about Fluid Film. I bought a gallon, and the spray gun for under $100 online. It's one of the most satisfying feelings spraying it on. It's beautiful!

@_mark_787 4 жыл бұрын

What about rustoleum undercoating; heard anything about it?

@MacsWraps 4 жыл бұрын

mark I’d have to research it. I found Fluid Film, so my research stops there. That is what I use because it gives me the results that I was looking for. You’ll see when you use it.

@_mark_787 4 жыл бұрын

@@MacsWraps I was reading the bullet points for the rustoleum, which is also a spray like Fluid Film, and "rubberized " was one of the ingredients. Funny thing is there's no thickness to it at all. Idk if Fluid Film contains rubber as well

@MacsWraps 4 жыл бұрын

mark no rubber like properties. In the can it is like butterscotch pudding. It’s sprays on making it wet looking. That rubberized stuff is crap.

@avenqer 4 жыл бұрын

@@_mark_787 I would assume its the same problem as this rubber stuff. If its not breathable, it will eventually have water creep and then your rust issue behind the layer of paint.

@adamwilling2457 3 жыл бұрын

I strictly used a fluid undercoating as well as the previous owner of my car. It went through 12 New England winters and has no rust on it at all. Other than a little paint fade and clear coat peeling my 08 Toyota Matrix is still looking decent.

@parageorge472 2 ай бұрын

This is a true story that I had to learn on my own. I bought a 2009 Silverado new. After the original frame coating started wearing off, I used to crawl underneath every year to wire brush the bad areas and reapply a spray on coating. One year I noticed the new coating falling off. I came to realize water would find a way behind the spray on coating and get trapped. I then discovered wool wax. I have now scrapped and wire brushed off all the original and the spray on I patched with. Wool wax works great, I do it every year. Take off the door seals and do behind them, hinges, the back side of the body panels that you can reach under the tail gate. I have also used a rust encapsulation product on the rear end housing etc.

@CitizenDrew 6 ай бұрын

So we have no idea what this truck looked like BEFORE it got Ziebarted. A lot of people have it sprayed on after the rust has already started. It seals it from further rust, but you can’t stop what is already there. I had a 1990 Mustang that the original owner had applied Ziebart when brand new and when I replaced the carpets the car was 100% rust free. And if you know Fox body Mustangs that is a rare thing indeed! I believe in Ziebarting.

@MotownVideo 5 жыл бұрын

20 years ago I had a Lincoln with air suspension that had Ziebart treatment. After two years trying to fix the air suspension, I gave up and sold it. The buyer thought he could easily fix it. I wished him luck and found out six months later he even gave up!

@stephenalexander6721 4 жыл бұрын

I once bought a car that had been rustproofed by the dealer. A few months later, while driving, I heard a sloshing sound. The weep holes in the door bottoms had been "sealed." The doors were filling with water.

@RossABQ 4 жыл бұрын

That happened to a friend's sister, back in the 70's. Her doors rusted clear thru about 3" above the door bottoms.

@Muftobration 4 жыл бұрын

Do not buy vehicle modifications from the dealer. Engineering quality control ends at the factory.

@johnnybikesalot 3 жыл бұрын

@@Muftobration Also dealers are middlemen that mark up everything. Anything you buy from them, they are making profit on.

@rickburt7055 11 ай бұрын

Back in the day I had my new f150 zeibarted. Boy, did I learn the hard way. Never happened again.

@michaeltutty1540 10 ай бұрын

I never use the undercoat, but have used the rubber spray on stone guard, but only in two places. First, on any "tuck under" at the bottom of the car where stones hit. Just keep an eye on it, being prepared to repair as nevessary. The other is a bit more unusual, but very effective on old cars. Using chalk dust i outline all the chrome trim, then carefully remove the trim. I mask off around the trim area, then sorsy on the rubber stone guard. Allow it to dry then prime and paint. Reinstall the trim, and nobody can tell. The rubber forms a barrier between car and trim as well as civering the sides of any holes for trim clips. The barrier works because it prevents a galvanic reaction between dissimilar metals. I've seen this last more than 20 years with zero rust under the trim.

@paulmartin5787 5 жыл бұрын

Ziebart was crap way back in the day, looks like it still is...

@mustie1 5 жыл бұрын

that was toyotas fix if the frame was rusty but not rotted through they just sprayed that crap over the rust , well you can guess how well that worked, so much for frame recall, l had to weld the frame, scrape all that crap off then spray it with bar and chain oil,

@Mr.Humphrey60 5 жыл бұрын

Hey young man What are you doing here 😁 Get back in the shop🤣🤣🖐 See you on the next video RESPECT to mustie jr.

@waleedabdelbari878 5 жыл бұрын

I used medium bar and chain oil and it will wash off within a year

@chrisE815 5 жыл бұрын

Why didn't you go back to the dealer and have them replace the entire frame? A family member of mine has an '06 Tacoma with a 1 year old frame... The brake lines were replaced among other parts- all covered by the recall. Now, it's pretty much the closest thing to a new truck in Upstate NY.

@don7406 5 жыл бұрын

Mustie1 is here. I’m a fan.

@mustie1 5 жыл бұрын

Chris N after 10 years the frame recall is not done

@tjrenegade9807 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for showing this. Been saying it for years. These companies should be sued.

@billgraff4809 11 ай бұрын

I bought a used, one owner Buick LeSabre which had been Zeibart undercoated yearly. The car was eight years old, had 98K on it and looked perfect. Then the hidden rust issues began. Blew a rear brake line. Blew a fuel line along the rockers. Found the top of both front strut towers were ready to fail. Floor pan, gone under the beautiful black Zeibart. Meanwhile, my other car at the time a 180K mile 1989 Bonneville which came from Pittsburgh, PA had no undercoating and almost no rust. Lesson learned.