I commented already that it’s terrible your mother said that to you but I’m so proud of you for doing what you still felt was right for you regardless of what she said. Way to go dude. I just wanted to make sure you seen this. ❤

I'm a 37 years old french woman, and i feel exactly the same, that's crazy.... !!!!

Thank you for doing this interview! I find a lot of similarities in what you said and have often wondered if I have sociopathic tendencies (not GENUINELY caring about people in the way you see other people capable of caring, and in my case with seeing people as objects, I more premeditate any interaction I have with anyone to go in my favor. I don’t care about love so I used my body for money thinking “well if men are gonna use me, I’ll use them right back, get paid” and I’ve also not reeeeaaaally felt long term happiness for quite a few years now, so I’d just like to say your honesty IS valid, and your interview is MUCH appreciated for people like us who can SEE what normal should be but we just can’t…get it if that makes sense? And I’m sorry you felt SO uncomfortable opening up in the interview, I also laugh when I’m nervous and rock myself to self sooth, you’re not just numb, you’re brave, and I appreciate you doing this so those of us with any type of mediphobia who are afraid of all the bills that would come with a diagnosis can relate and self reflect within ourselves. Thank you ❤

THANK YOU for sharing your story. i'm especially grateful as a fellow deeply melanated Black woman. 🥰

A few seconds into the video and I feel like I have to post already. What I want to say is: don't worry, nobody is "normal". There's no such thing.

Yes!!!!! The amount of energy NDs have to use because of this.

What is neurodivergent

@@onceuponawalkingdeadpll8355 A broad term for conditions wherein people diverge in mental or neurological function from what is considered typical or normal. The term was coined for Autism and is usually applied for such, but can also include ADHD and various other similar conditions, many of which have neurological relations to Autism and ADHD, and are often comorbidities (anxiety disorders, dyslexia, etc). Its antonym is neurotypical, as in someone who doesn't have such conditions.

@@treeaboo bless your heart THANK YOU 😊

Yes 🙌🏽

That fact (among others) makes me doubt her diagnosis, and think it's more fitting for her mother.

@@Solscapes.…yeah no. Let’s not use her diagnoses to insult others??

Autism is genetic. Maybe her mom wants everyone to think her family is perfect and has no problem. That would tie in with not getting help for her child, not acknowledging her child could possibly even need help. Many people think anything less than perfect is a weakness and reflects badly on them. Even though autism is from birth and not something a person has control over. The mother might feel ashamed that her daughter somehow is flawed. This is interesting though. And is good to know a person can be autistic and still be antisocial personality disorder too

@@recoveringsoul755 actually, there are a lot of scientists saying that, but they can't find specific genes, just clusters of them that seem to imply genetic susceptability, not a genetic cause. There is still an environmental factore that is not being addressed, for at least a large portion of us. It's not a vaccine. Isolation, whether through neglect or just overworked parents, causes too many "autism-like" syndroms for me to discount it. I was left alone as an infant for most of my first years. People in the hole develop it. The romanian orphans did. People in lockdown.... Genetic "causation" is the capitalist narrative so they won't get blamed for all the autism THEY cause by overworking parents.

Wild its still around in 2023

Commending her on how hard it takes to fight her own self to make you comfortable makes me feel our society is profoundly sick

@@Mybawwsit’s not that simple, though. It’s okay to have autism, and it’s okay to have disabilities, but part of this woman’s disability is a disregard for other people’s well-being. You have to take other people’s well-being seriously if you’re going to live in a community. That’s different from other qualities, like not relating to your peers or having a different range of emotions. I agree that people with any kind of disability should be accepted and valued as members of the community, I’m autistic myself, but I don’t think it’s wrong to commend someone for changing behavior that truly harms other people, and isn’t just different.

Exactly

you don't know that. is she trying to be her best self? or is she trying to be as good as she has to be in order for people to stay with her? And I don't say this as a value judgement, there just usually isn't an internal motivation to be a "good" person with ASPD peeps

@@georgplaz She did mention not wanting to be alone. Rejection is something she knows hurts her ability to navigate the world. She's just been so traumatized her brain rewired in a way that didn't include the ability to naturally connect with others. Cutting yourself off to any sort of vulnerability to ward off the possibility to more of that harm.

❤❤❤

Introverts have so many beautiful, outstanding qualities & gifts. Extroverts need facebook, society, religions & groups to listen to them play out their facades. Who does her diagnosing? Another Extrovert !

“Is it better to be born good? Or to be born evil, and achieve goodness through great effort” - Paarthurnax

@Wooters1I feel like most people have to occasionally. You can’t genuinely care about everyone that exists🤷‍♀️

Thats what I had to learn in life. Otherwise I would have been the worst

isn't that called sympathy? Empathy is a feeling, isn't it?

Cognitive empathy? That's like saying cognitive romance. It's not a difference of _feeling_ empathy but a *lack* thereof. Feigning an emotion isn't practicing one. She has no brain circuitry for empathy. She has no intuition for it. If she could get away with not masking she would prefer that. There is nothing cool about it.

Yessss c-ptsd bad

relatable

Yeah I was seeing a lot of myself, I was wondering how much is her stifling so much down. Poor girl.

I can’t be in Survival mode talking about my own Disorders

She's just crazy

Sociopaths have low or no Empathy, it is highly unlikely she feels a lot of shame as Empathy and Shame go hand in hand. She most likely has shame but it's in a reduced form than normal, she would be able to over come her shame better than most to get what she wants, trust me that's how sociopaths work. Empathy, Shame, remorse stops people from doing anti-social behaviours, if she had high levels of shame she probably would not say things like "I don't care for my friend", "If I had money I would leave him", she doesn't feel shame like normal people that's why she is anti-social.

@@user-hu6lr3vr7g "trust me that's how sociopaths work" are you a psychologist???? She also was diagnosed with ASPD under significantly inappropriate circumstances, which many in this comment section have pointed out. She doesn't fit it in a lot of ways.

​@@Crabby-AbbyI'm glad you said that, because ive been like. Identifying with this woman so hard and im like. Stressed 😂

@@kt68866 sending love! Make sure you find a good therapist 🫶🏼

@user-hu6lr3vr7g that diagnosis was BS. absolutely shocked at the behavior of the therapist, who should lose their license to practice. You're also misquoting her. He asked "IF YOUR FRIEND STOPPED CARING ABOUT YOU TOMORROW, would you be able to move on without any problem" and she said "if I was financially stable, yes." This is actually different than "if I had money I would leave him." It's a common trauma response to move on easily from relationships. Her diagnosis was egregious, that therapist should lose their license. EVEN IF she fits the diagnosis of ASPD , she should have had so much more in the way of assessments than she got. That therapist marked her for life because she couldn't contain her own emotions which was literally her ONE job.

I agree with you. There appears there may be some mental abuse which will split off to other mental issues. She's very smart, and has alot of emotions. It just appears noone has validated her humanness. I pray for this amazing young woman. I wish I could tell her, "You are important & worthy of love!"

She says she was in the interview.

She could be lying. As her said, don't trust her. Lying is a big part of the ASPD profile.

I agree. what type of parent tells their child they'll disown them if they come out and speak on what they're experiencing? that's madness.... wonder what her mother has been through to be able to say some ish like that

@@AtheneHolder yup and the trauma cycle continues… poor girl isnt even fully developed mentally (autism) and is being told she has incurable illness(aspd) that villianizes her that she is internalizing as her permanent identity for stability and no doubt is traumatizing others as a result and feeds her mothers issues and abuse as well. I see glimpses of empathy and her person in there… such a shame.

My ex husband and I were going through our break up of our 15 year marriage, and we both saw the same therapist separately, because we had read that having the same therapist put our odds in favor of getting back together (instead of separate therapists where they only get one side of the story) and we both wanted to give it a good shot. She was very helpful in many ways, got to some issues I needed to deal with etc. but as time went on, I knew I could never be with my ex again and eventually came to that conclusion. When I told her we were going to follow through on the divorce, she started to cry softly. It was very uncomfortable. I mean I don't blame her really, I'm sure after getting to know us she was rooting for us, but just something about it suddenly becoming personal for her made me feel very awkward. I didn't make any further appointments after that. Btw, my ex and I are very happily married now to other partners for the last 20 plus years now. We chat every once in a while like old friends. We were kids back in the day when we got together.

Which really makes me question the ASPD diagnosis given to her by that therapist.

@@ClearwaterKB After a few other therapists for other reasons, I just don't trust them as much anymore. I remember the whole "repressed memories" thing back in the early 80's. Sure sometimes stuff happens and you suppress it, but it was such a "thing" back then. I think a lot of times therapists love "labels" and quick fixes!

there are so many different qualifications that allow someone to become a therapist. the industry is a mess and there are so many people who enter the field who have absolutely no business doing what they're doing.

​@@windsongshfYeah, that caused, and continues to cause, so much damage. It's awful. But I wouldn't let that turn you off therapy entirely. The spectrum of psych professionals is so vast, it can take a lot of trial and error to find a good one, but there _are_ good ones are out there. Great ones. I've had two excellent ones, and I'm so glad I kept at it until I found them.

Absolutely . It took me over 30 years to finally start understanding the real me...or what was the real me ? What has left of the real me ..I don't know , but you get what I'm saying :)

I wish I got to meet who I was supposed to be

She's not broken. She's different.

What do you mean by this? Genuinely curious

@@doomngloom96😭 good point

I was questioning myself exactly about it! It makes sense.

So I'm her then

Just asking who you are to make that correction? Because as a medical professional myself I know that it is possible with antisocial personality disorder to feel NO emotions, at all! Every case is different and some are more severe than others but just wondering how you know this about her specifically, not trying to be rude or offensive, is this her best friend Joseph?

​@@CreatorsHubVu-pd2du Same!

😢 my 💯 thought as well, and through the whole interview the trust to care is what's at fault

And she said there wasn't a single place that she wasn't being abused.

So heartbreaking....

Jesus can heal totally. I know that has become a cliche but it’s also true

I beg to differ. 🙏🏽Sometimes people who went through lot of pain use it as a justification to harm others. We all need to preserve our moral compass no matter what happens to us.

True. Not only that but I think compassion, by definition, is treating someone well when you really don't want to.

lol, it's like a man can practice being a woman and get pregnant one day........................

what are you talking abt. @@michaelsi6770

​@@michaelsi6770womanhood isn't defined by getting pregnant nor is every women able to get pregnant anyways and empathy and compassion are wildly different concepts to that anyways so idk what you were getting at lmao

@@criticalthinking9924 You can understand why a situation might be hard for someone with logic and what you learnt without necessarily feeling their emotions or knowing what exactly it's like for the other person, cognitive empathy as opposed emotional empathy in other words

That's so amazing he has you to be real with, I think he really does mean he's sorry he just needs someone to hold safe space while he gets it out 💕

Wow I’m mentally ill and my mom and sister see the worst side of me. The two people I love most and it breaks my heart. But I cannot control it sometimes and it sucks

Thank you for making your child feel comfortable. We need that. More than you know!

You are an amazing mother if your baby doesn’t have to pretend around you. Blessings

I'm glad you're taking some time to try and learn about it. Sometimes I show my angrier, uglier side to my mom and I feel incredibly guilty.

be careful. it is something performative. Them being aware doesn't mean them truly feeling that is wrong, or feeling genuinly bad for how they treat others. See, even in how she talks she is vicitmizing herself, but we do not know how sh etreated those who left. it is commong for those under the aspd umbrella to be assuvie friends, partners, etc. do not infantilize them because of a sad backstory.

​@@magical571Victimizing?! Have you heard what she went through? She was very forth-comming about what she did to others. You sound like the therapist that "diagnosed" her. Stop projecting, because you don't know her

She could just turn her emotions on but doesn't. This isn't a good person, she said it herself indirectly in numerous ways.

​@@petrumareShe literally never said or implied that you daft dingaling

​@petrumare you have a fundamental misunderstanding of her personality disorder. She cannot simply turn her emotions on, she's not a robot.

You're just falling for her lies fool.

No she isn't. You ever heard before that people with antisocial personality disorder are EXTREMELY MANIPULATIVE

​@isisDarkGoth I know psychopathy is very heritsble, but living with parent/s who are also likely psychopaths HAS to play a role. Epigenetics has a lot to answer for.

Exactly my thoughts. I don’t think this girl has ever had a moment to be soft.

@isisDarkGothsociopaths generally have better empathy than psychopaths although typically they have to be prompted to actually think about it and don't really do it on their own often.

Thats exactly what i was thinking

That is so sad, and I do know what it is like to have someone with similar issues in my life. It can get insane, but I love them dearly. Sometimes you need to put a little space, but I would never discard them.

@saraferguson1156 I feel the same way.

Caring about people who DONT care about me feels like it would be stalking.

😢

THIS! Of course I can't state as fact but this does look like what you said to me as well.

Yeah she seems VERY SUPER self aware with a cognition that is not typical of Autism. I’m the mom of a 17 year old Autistic son, I’m not an expert but just my humble observation.

@@naimahsochi2683 I agree with the self awareness.

Before passing judgment, it’s important to hear both sides of the story. The therapist’s evaluation of ASPD could be wrong, but the girl’s story about the therapist might also be exaggerated, intentionally or unintentionally. I hope she can find a therapist that can help her.

@@2Siders A key point to always be included.

Fr bluddy i dont even live with them

True that!!

Not all people who have children have earned the title of parent!

Amen!

Not all parents can deal with children with special needs. They just want neurotypical kids and, when they have kids with special needs, they don't act accordingly and don't make an effort to know how to act with them.

You would be surprised. Sociopaths just don’t feel emotions to the same extent of others.

Exactly what I thought

I think so too.. I think her lack of emotions is a trauma response.. A learned one instead of a natural one.. She automatically responds with shame and expresses anger and sadness.. So I don't understand why she think she doesn't understand human emotions and responses... She would have to be doing a whole lot of acting to pull of this interview.. the ability to express anger mean ability to display emotion. Numbness is not her standard response... I don't think she has been properly diagnosed

Sounds kinda BPD more than aspd. She doesn't know herself at all

You explained that so well 😢

@@Didleeios88no I have bpd definitely different we feel emotions intensely we have no control of our emotions so it hard to place which emotions is accurate and we can also become numb with alil sprinkle of imposter syndrome 😭

@@uniquebluekash12 I see thanks for sharing. I had heard that BPD have a hard time identifying who they really are but I didn't realize how differently that manifests. Take care of yourself 💕

@@cDumstr you might want to edit that to say self-flagellating 😅😅 (sorry I have a ten year old boy's sense of humor)

Yes there it is

It absolutely is

Yes. It sounds like her mother is embarrassed and/or in denial.

I feel like she was mostly joking though

My mother doesn't want to tell people I'm autistic because she doesn't want people to see that she has two children with disabilities (my sister is also special needs), but I don't care what others might think. 🤷🏻‍♀️

There’s so many unqualified ones out there. I have experienced it first hand.

Yep

It's like a nurodivergent love language.

Or so that you don't get judged, yelled at, or piss people off. Like I do.

No es por nosotros, es por ustedes que no quieren desencajar.

or because the energy required to educate them about the issues just feels more exhausting than masking

That is horrible!

I had a good friend who was very chemically sensitive. I do wonder if Sheila wasn't on some sort of spectrum too. She admitted to being antisocial (her words), yet we would talk for hours until we were both starved. She was very sick w/ environmental illness, and quite a loner. Her mom was Caribbean and was pretty tough from what Sheila said. She said she couldn't tell her mom she was sick, because her mother didn't believe in it, so she tried to make out like normal and just didn't talk to her that much anymore.

My life. I grew up in the Caribbean and I have ADHD and my entire life I have had to learn to mask and was misunderstood. When she said “I tell people what’s wrong with me and then they say no you don’t. And then they get upset when you do something”. That is accurate.

It's true, I have family from Belize and yes, we don't talk about mental illness at all

And if you talk about it they get mad because you're making THEM look bad.

Joseph is getting used. 😂😂😂

To me that sounded as if the therapist was emotionally overwhelmed or triggered, which most propbably negatively impacted her judgement/perception of Cassy.

Nonetheless it is not a patient's duty to support a therapist.

I’d caution in believing everything that some random person on KZfaq says.

There are a LOT of bad therapists out there and I’m so sorry she was subjected to that one. This girl needs a break! Joseph has certainly given her a soft place to fall for the first time in her life.

When I was 18 my therapist after 2 years of getting nowhere cursed me out infront of my mom to the point we both agreed that the therapist was crazy. The therapist said that they basically give up on me, that I'm a lost cause and that this never happened to her before. After few months I got diagnosed with ASD. Turns out many therapist have no experience with autism, so make sure you pick the right therapist before going to them.

Like Dexter

True, and even the lack of emotions in itself isn't even proof of having a personality disorder. Lack of emotions or understanding them can also indicate things like Alexithymia, severe PTSD/C-PTSD, emotional burnout, or even major depression. (Edit for spelling error)

I prefer no to be the one that will try to find out ahah

​@@clintparsons3989that's a fictional character. Stay in reality.

​@@tenshimoonshe was diagnosed with aspd so you're just making excuses for her. I guarantee you she's not someone you want to know in any capacity, especially when she needs something, and thinks you might have what she wants.

Yes. People mix it up with asocial.

You know I just might have ASPD too and PTSD. And I do have an Anxiety disorder and OCD and Social Pragmatic Communication Disorder. But no Autism. And no Bi polar. I also feel some are being very overly diagnosed too! Due to lack of research and lack of interviews like these, Shout out to Chris thanks for getting involved and doing these interviews. I was worried for her safety please protect her after this interview.

That sounds more like autism to me

I'm not diagnosed with anything but isn't amazing when someone tolerates or includes you? Sigh of relief

can you please state those mental ill differences @@SunflowerBees70

Be yourself unless that person is obsessed with trains

It’s easy to judge parents… who knows what this girl may have done to the mother.

The girl probably ruined her mother's dreams and aspirations for the rest of her life

@@Chaz_Mahoneydemonizing much?

@@Chaz_MahoneyWhy are you demonizing her?

As a parent you raise your child to succeed in the world they live in. It's very difficult to do that when your child is clinically different from that world. Difficult for all parties involved.

I love him, watching these videos has changed my life❤

His questions are fantastic 🔥🔥

Chris has autism

He would probably be a better therapist than 80% of the ones who have PhDs. Our system sucks.

@@derekaitken most therapists don’t have a PhD.

I completely agree with and adore your comment and I hope she reads it.

This! Yes! Most ppl can be empathetic because its a cultural norm. But to actively and CONSCIOUSLY practice it is rare.Not that im sayin ppl cant be naturally empathetic, they totally can be.

No, I don't have empathy. Empathy is feeling how other people feel. Instead of trying to persuade us we really are like you, why not just say it's okay to be how we are?

I think the correct claim here is that you can manually practice MORALITY and that you don't need empathy to be moral.

Yes, that is cognitive empathy. She has to understand that will be the best can do and it is fine.

My therapy session often looked like this! This is very helpful to make you aware that you have feelings! I have very similar history and my symptoms was VERY similar to her I started to feel positive emotions after four years of being in and out therapy Ofc every story is different but I think she could be happy! Just need professional help

Yes. I loved this.

It’s a valid question. And she said multiple times that she either doesn’t know, or doesn’t feel that way. And you would know if you feel it.

@@SchgurmTewehr would you though???

Because she doesn’t, she’s just learned to use the giggling and silly behavior to manipulate others.

moi ll lm lllll loll

You're beautiful & you've helped me understand a little more about what you deal with. Thought he was a tad bit pushy on such a delicate issue...?

@@DonnellOkafor”atrocity” you mean.. an Afro?

@@DonnellOkaforthe hair that naturally grows out of her scalp? Do you hear yourself?

@@DonnellOkaforher hair is gorgeous!

can u indicate the moment she mentionned the thing about causing pain i did not hear that

@@bluelight8664 she said that she hurt a lot of people by lying and manipulating them causing them pain but she acknowledges and understands she does it but it isn’t malicious. It’s just part of the disorder where she can’t feel emotions good or bad

@@laurenfranks5037 i've been at the recieving end. for 14 years, and it tore me appart, i got used and abused. If someone can genuinly stay there unharmed, more power to them. but no amount of understanding or empathy justifies staying there just taking it. i wish people wouldn't infantilize her, or fall for the sad backstory. I did, for years, because i myself suffered trauma and abuse and have always been as understanding as posible of mental health, and it really only added more trauma in my life for years to come. Now i fear being treated and abused by people like her because of my trusting nature and tendency to empathize with people with family issues. And it never was and still isn't easy for me or people like me to take the decission of stepping back, or setting a boundary, or saying goodbye, and it creates a breeding ground for people like her to abuse others. Do not misunderstand her cognitive capacity to understand what she did wrong and how it is prcieved as wrong, with her actually feeling bad or being able to treat others well with any degree of consistency much less if they get close like a real friend or a relative. I even got victimed blamed and mocked, just so i would take it all in no matter what. People, stop it.

I​@@laurenfranks5037

Wonder if the friend understands the nuances of her ASPD

I've had a similar experience, to this day i'm still not entirely sure wether i actually have Bipolar or not. My doctors and care team continuously go back and forth between me having bipolar and not, but recently when they realised that I have dissociative identity disorder, they've kinda come to a conclusion that those episodes were more likely to be trauma reactions like identity switches

I’ve stopped identifying with the labels they gave me. I’m capable of so much more than my diagnoses, and once I realized that it was so freeing. I’m just me

@@JamiePackmule1I love this!!!!!! I’m so glad that you were able to identify this and break free! Bravo!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Ah. Better luck next time.

@@jessejohnson9514 I know right? Maybe I'll score with some schizophrenia next time, ya?

She’s a trauma survivor first and it sounds like she was never able to have a loving bond with her mother. That in itself was enough to hijack the normal process of her developing her personal identity.

@@paulaoppedisano6460 Not all people with trauma have aspd

@alzzz Agree 100%

THIS

Definitely.

You want her to keep seeing doctors until they tell her she doesn’t have ASPD? Because you are a student who disagrees?

I‘m also a psychology major and I doubt the ASPD diagnosis too.

I'm a neuroscience student and I agree

​@Anne-pj7ny have you never heard of 2nd or 3rd opinion? it's just to confirm with absolute assurity that the diagnosis was right.

don't jump to conclusions whenever you only have one side of the story. maybe especially if that one side is a person with ASPD

I've definitely heard of therapists becoming unprofessional ​and actually making it harder for their clients to get the help they need, or being so triggered by their clients personality/behavioral issues that they end up publically exposing them or lashing out at them. @georgplaz Of course this is in no way the norm. I'm just saying anything is possible

Nah, she simply has ASPD. SHe has a shallow emotional palette, if any at all. This is more about the way her brain is wired.

Yes actually this is 100% correct! Sociopathy is created, not born. Which means that all the years of trauma and abuse she endured completely altered her personality as a defensive mechanism - “creating” the ASPD/ sociopathy.

I’m diagnosed with ptsd and I can’t cope with the way I feel as well.

@@alexceciliayou can’t know that for sure about her and no, sociopathy is not always “created”

​@@TomikaKellydamn, thank god you conducted a full evaluation yourself so the rest of us don't have to!

Seriously, he is a kind soul

his approach so genuine and warm

do you mean like the laughing and the smiling

@@catlover4319 yessums

Yeah I was thinking it was cool that he asked "do you" about her saying she feels bad, but, at least to me anyway, it felt like he wanted to know to understand better as opposed to the accusatory way most people would ask if someone actually feels bad when they say they do. It comes across nonjudgmental.

I think she's using him

​@@laulago3771I agree but unfortunately I think he's one of those people that's totally ok with it. It's hard to believe he doesn't realize it.

@@AILIT1i think he is aware of that and she is aware of that because of her disorder, and he is being a good friend and good person overall to help her

@@laulago3771he knows she is

@@bunnigummi9065 Y'all do not know that man or their situation lol just wish the best for them

I feel bad for her too. The problem with the term real emotions is that it can be subjective

I agree , she seems like she's been through a lot it makes sense that she's masking.

Nailed it, pretty sure in a soft white underbelly interview she details being bullied in a women’s shelter for that exact reason

Period. This is the reality for a lot of people.

Bingo. She can’t help how she is, she has to do what she has to do to survive

@@thesilvershining To say that she can't help how she is, is to say that she doesn't have the potential for positive change, growth, healing, and/or transformation. It sounds like she has already grown and changed some for the positive--I'd to think that she can even more. I know you said what you said out of empathy, but I'm a big believer in the power of will/freewill also.

It sucks so much. The awkward nervous laughter when she's supposed to say sorry and say she cares and be genuine but can't. I'm stuck in that spot a lot too

25:05, I thought "do you feel comfortable..." is probably not the stressless way to ask to a person who struggle to feel emotions. I suggest to ask for capabilities, or wishes, as in "can you explain...", "do you want to tell more about...", "what are your thoughts about...". I guess that adapting the questionnaire environment (key words, concepts, sociocultural map, approach... parameters) to the mental representational system of the interviewed may help to open up ways of self expression and communication. Me, ASD+ADHD.

I hear you. Chris is great, but he could've used a better approach here.

It is perfectly okay not to care!!!!!! The pressure to care just leads to feelings of guilt and shame, which are unproductive because they don’t lead to greater caring! Instead, people in our lives should model how to care for US. When we receive care and acceptance and love, we have the opportunity to learn how to be caring towards ourselves and then how to care about others. I started to care more for others when my own emotional needs were met.

same. i'm autistic and i really relate to a lot of what cassy does and doesn't experience regarding caring. i don't have an aspd dx but have often wondered if i really love people or not or what my feeling towards them are. i'm not sure that cassy isn't just an autistic person who has been very hurt and traumatized reacting in a normal autistic way to that trauma. i also want to thank cassy for her bravery and honesty and i hope she is able to create/find a life that makes her happy.

I couldn’t believe that I heard that come out of her mouth. I feel so seen. For much of my life, I’ve woken up every day angry that I’m still alive. I’ve never heard anybody else say this.

100% agree. I related to her hard as an alexithymic autistic and I'm def not ASPD.

anger, anxiety, depression and euphoria is normal for people with aspd, it just works in a different way

Chill.

no access to positive emotions.

It's more accurate to say that she has a more limited range of emotions. People with ASPD (not a good term for it by the way), feel the base emotions of anger and fear but not higher-level emotions like compassion and love.

This is a prime example of "masking" she is trying to hard to say and do the right thing and not hurt people's feelings

@@Lucailey but why is she doing that?

​@@ryanyoung5259Alot of people on the Autism spectrum, mask to not stand out or to seem neurotypical, for neurotypicals sake.

​@@ryanyoung5259Self-preservation. Being socially ostracized is hard on most people, because we do live in societies where dealing with others is necessary to function on every level. We all know that if we don't try to fit in we will be treated differently which can negatively affect your life.

The thing is, nobody cares that you don’t or can’t actually feel that you care about them as long as you act like it. People attach so much sentimentality to feelings and intention when it’s really the action and consequences that affect anything at all.

Yes because online relationships isn't real

@@smart_pretty tell that to my online friends that got married earlier this year lol

@@elisthetic Congratulations to them if they were not gay

@@smart_pretty I meet my husband and father of my 2 child online, we had a relationship online, 1,5 years before we meet face to face. The fact is that, online, one does not need to mask to pretend, one can be more true to it self. That does not mean that she is able to have a relationship outside of that, but that is a relationship non the less.

@@paulacruz6239 Well, I am speaking in general. There may be some exceptions, but the Internet is not a safe place For dating

I don't have that kind of anger, but I can relate to being disappointed that I woke up, again, and have to face yet another day.

❤❤❤❤❤❤ sending so much to love to you both. That is a very lonely feeling & yet we’re not alone

Girl bye.

Very well put

Sociopaths read people very well, as he did. He gave you the gifts he knew you would like to manipulate you.

@@jacobus57? or he was just doing something he knew would make her happy

@@jacobus57not every sociopath has malicious intent

@@jacobus57 not all sociopaths are sadistic or constantly plotting. trying to keep your partner happy despite lacking empathy can be for a million reasons. they can still understand reciprocity (i like spending time with you and will reward you for that) despite not empathically identifying with others.

@@jacobus57 I didn't see enough evidence to suggest that the gift-giving was any more manipulative than any other person doing the same practice. Appeasement or reciprocity (neither of which are altruistic, but not inherently as malicious as outright manipulation) could have also been the reason for this behavior. We shouldn't downplay their struggles and limitations (and we must also set boundaries that keep us safe if we ever feel unsafe or uncomfortable with any person, ASPD or not), but we also need to be careful about pathologizing every single behavior when the message in this interview was a reminder that: while those with ASPD are not exactly like everyone else, they are still people. We also need to hold space for the fact that many (though not all) people with ASPD are also survivors of abuse, and survivors of all backgrounds are often blamed and viewed with suspicion just for having maladaptive schema (which did not develop in a vacuum or by choice necessarily). It also helps abusers without ASPD or NPD hide in plain sight (and considering how rare these disorders are, it's likely that most abusers do not have ASPD).

@@lawm1549As a black person in her exact situation, it’s more complicated than that. Not all black people are the same, no, but neurodivergency is heavily looked down on by the majority of our community and we HAVE to mask to be let in. There are people who will be okay with you taking down the mask slowly, but people make so many preconceptions about nd that they decide whether they want to even speak to you or not based on the signs. And that’s for everyone, not just our community, I’m just saying why it’s harder to be let in.

Same here she seems so lovely. She needs so much more support and love Than she received

fr! Some of the meanest comments tend to come from fellow Black people. Many think I'm rude or dismissive, but I'm actually just riddled with anxiety and expecting the worst.

​@@MusikkFreak27you are awesome

Thank you for this, love to you sis

@@TELKXthey’re talking about how her therapist treated her

​@@TELKXI haven't gotten to that part yet and was so confused

As a therapist, you should know to take someone's one-sided interpretation of events with a grain of salt and not say, "You did nothing wrong." When you don't have a clear understanding of the situation.

I genuinely believe autistic people are psychopaths

That's hard. I'm sorry. I hope you two can build a relationship that works for you regardless of her condition.

@@madelaki oh we absolutely have a great relationship. Love that kid to the moon and back. We all have our quirks.

You sound like a great parent ❤

I think we place feelings too highly. Maybe she could logicalise how she could have done better.

Sociopaths and people with autism are generally considered to be "rational". I wouldn't put them in the crazy category.

This. You can put a wall up and shut down and NT call you “crazy”.

Absolutely! My adult son has autism and was bullied in school. As an adult he wanted friends, but because of autism, he could understand how to make relationships work. He was taken advantage of which caused him emotional trauma. Now he has PTSD and he has encapsulated himself emotionally and now feels apathy (not having feelings), due to the trauma.

I do agree but would keep in mind that will never validate the unfortunate actions that people with this high level of trauma do to others. So yes they need help but the actions that hurt others do to these people being so traumatized is not okay

Agreed.

Having someone who just accepted her and listened to her made a huge difference.

I think it can be both, they are different type of people then most and when interacting with them it should be considered, but as for the level of respect you should give someone, or the existence of their emotions, those things are still very much there and like everybody else. They just may have different triggers or ways of conveying those feelings as well as a difference in level of intensity for some of those feelings the point where the fluid nature of feelings makes it difficult to distinguish what there actually feeling. That’s my inference anyway.

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Lying is a big part of having ASPD.

They aren't mutually exclusive. She doesn't feel like a normal human and her point at the end is society should be more accepting of people like that because 1 in 30 people are like that. I didn't detect any shift

It's not just empathy she doesn't feel, there is a lot of emotions she doesn't feel! She experiences self serving emotions like excitement, pride, happiness ECT.... But does not experience self-sacrificing emotions like guilt, shame, remorse, empathy ECT... The definition of humanity is: Humanity typically refers to the collective attributes, behaviors, and qualities that characterize human beings. It encompasses aspects such as compassion, empathy, ethics, creativity, and the capacity for rational thought. The term reflects the shared human experience, emphasizing our interconnectedness, social nature, and the moral principles that guide our actions. In the Oxford dictionary: human beings collectively. She has the inability to interact with other humans as a collective, to co-operate with a hive mind that allows humans to get along. By definition she lacks humanity but that doesn't mean she is bad and can't learn to mimic someone who has empathy ECT... to co-operate, for them humanity is performance in order to fit in and survive, it is not innate, it doesn't make her bad because she wasn't born like that. She is absolutely right what she is saying if you understand the definition of humanity.

Your wrong. Without empathy your not really human.

@user-is6de8pp7k That encompasses a huge swath of the population, once you account for every single person who hates another group of people they have othered.

@@user-is6de8pp7kFrom a down-to-earth perspective, we’re just social animals, like bees and ants. You’ve seen some animals demonstrating “humanity”. Empathy, attachment, and sometimes even self-sacrifice. Our whole brain is set to feel and act with humanity, we feel empathy because ultimately, it benefits our survival chances. So why evolution produces people with psychopathic traits? It’s theorized that it also benefits us, as a specie. Those people can perform under pressure, and they can push fear boundaries that most people can’t. This lady has humanity. She needs to find her purpose, and she deserves to be happy just like everyone else.

Everything is a choice

Yeah I recentl found out I have cptsd (check your psych notes everyone) though I suspected for a while. I'm still trying to learn more but 5 minutes in and I saw myself in her, as an aspie who's gone through trauama. Also not diagnosing her but she might also have adhd.

I'm 100% on the same wave length as you, she needs someone that *actually* knows what they're doing to help her

Developmental Trauma Disorder

Videos like this make me sad. I don't believe she has antisocial personality disorder. I have two teen girls with autism and many family members with autism and have seen autism in many forms. I agree with previous comments that she has ptsd from trauma, but as far as the symptoms she describes as ASPD is actually her Autism. One of my autistic daughters is very much the same with not understanding social relationships and has very little to no empathy or understanding others feelings. She also copies and masks along with coping other people's personalities because she doesn't understand emotions and wants friends. I could go on. My other daughter is the opposite with empathy and feels everything very deeply and get stuck on emotions. Autism is definitely different for everyone. But I am sad that her Autism is being described as a mental health disorder such as ASPD. It causes further misunderstanding of autism. 😔 I really hope she can get some counselling for her trauma and Autism to better understand her world.

@@lordtette She did say ADHD was one of her diagnoses.

There are no "good" or "bad" people. Simply wanted and unwanted acts.

I think reality is somewhere in the middle between your comment and @em-dy3hn 's. It's entirely unhelpful to subscribe good and bad here, but also simply wanting and unwanting feels a bit too simple. At least it does to me after hearing Cassy, who goes to great pains to communicate how different her inner workings are. She still has anger. As well as, yes, legitimate wants for herself.

Ikr!!! (Also adhd-er) I am absolutely ENRAGED at that awful therapist. Using the obvious symptoms of autism and ptsd against her patient because she was offended by something that isn't her problem? She should get fired from her job!

As someone who works in mental healthcare, many therapists don’t work with people with autism. They would likely have to see an occupational therapist or some other kind of autism specialist.

She does have the ASPD traits though such as being confused about people and having numb feelings and also transactional logic (which is not altruistic).

Get a job

@@prinniesforeveryone321what?