Would you ride an 120mm cross-country bike or do you prefer less suspension travel for XC?
@racittaj5 ай бұрын
WC 4 me!
@coldforgedcowboy5 ай бұрын
Two much travel for a cross contry bike. A good cross country bike should be able to ride, single track, gravel, and tarmac efficiently. With a 120mm fork it is too trail focused, they lost the plot.
@morgusfly5 ай бұрын
I'm recent nat'l champion and 3rd at worlds - I race 120mm unless the course is stupid flat.
@coldforgedcowboy5 ай бұрын
@morgusfly ... Yes that is race course focused, for everyday cross country riding, where you are riding on tarmarc, gravel, and trail, four inches is plenty.
@djcordes43525 ай бұрын
@@morgusflyI’m about 6’4-5”. I was thinking I f going with a new Super Caliber to keep up with my daughter and saw this. What are your thoughts?
@TivonSanders5 ай бұрын
People that criticize this bikes travel numbers have to understand that xc courses have gotten much more technical and steeper, and so requires more travel. I'd rather take the extra travel than bottom out all of the time.
@epd15845 ай бұрын
This statement is a fact. Also the reason a person like me that lives in tight woods does not like this geo because it is not good in slower singletrack. This bike is built for World cup level XC not for local level old school courses, it just doesn't suit some peoples needs is my problem with the bike.
@Bread_Garlichouse4 ай бұрын
Yeah, XC these days is essentially Trail lite. Nowadays you spunk 5 figures on a top end bike that's well over 10kgs....and promoters call that "feathery light race machines".
@Pedro_Pasi5 ай бұрын
„Epic 8“ because of 8 batteries, you need to charge?
@carltonholmes80615 ай бұрын
Yes,not a fan of all this Digital/Electric gadgetry. More things to break and also complicate the ride. I just want to ride not use an on board computer, there is enough of that crap in cars now. 😂😂 I think i will get the comp one in 130-no cable lockouts. 😮
@Fanaleds-software5 ай бұрын
Not that much. Amazing tech.
@funLad805 ай бұрын
There is actually 9 batteries: shifter, seatpost/susoension controller, seatpost, shock, fork, crank sensor, rear mech, 2x tyre pressure sensors 😂 add bike computer and front + rear lights if you use it on public roads… and of course mobile phone so you could tune your suspension 😂
@Bread_Garlichouse4 ай бұрын
@@Fanaleds-software it's shitty over-reliance that has no manual override and will get you stranded one day.
@palpatine19755 ай бұрын
It's basically specialized saying we screwed up with the trek supercaliber copy which doesn't work for today's courses.. So we go back to regular epic.
@racittaj5 ай бұрын
You have no idea about xc m8
@yonglingng56405 ай бұрын
When I first saw it, I was like "I thought they revealed a new one only about a year ago?".
@TheUsername13025 ай бұрын
Not really, they always said the epic WC was a replacement for the top end hardtails and they wouldn’t kill the “normal” epic
@JackMott5 ай бұрын
its probably more choice than necessary fueled by customers being overly concerned about weight and responsiveness. 120mm travel isn’t slowing you down in any XC race. especially when you can flip shocks to medium and locked settings with yer thumb.
@7XFF5 ай бұрын
Go back? The Epic WC and Epic 8 are separate models..
@gravelDave5 ай бұрын
The Canyon lux trail is looking like a bit of a bargain.
@LaurentiusTriarius5 ай бұрын
Not a huge xc fan but I'd take dozen of these reviews over another ebike some marketing dept tries to shove up our arses...
@camusss48495 ай бұрын
These prices are nuts. Im really wondering how many people who are into biking will spend that much money. Wait half a year and they will give 25-40% discount for sure like theyre doing with all the models right now
@Thysdrus75 ай бұрын
No discount for the epic wc after a year
@drewgolson5 ай бұрын
@@Thysdrus7 they are 25% off.
@Jean-jk4zv4 ай бұрын
yes it's slowly collapsing this year models are basically just paint jobs for the most part and worse drive trains. I'm afraid about 2025 line up, the s-works with micro shift and sun tour sus maybe (same price or a 100 higher of course)
@joonas41263 ай бұрын
During winter season you can easily find top end bikes with good discounts. Friend just bought Cannondale Scalpel Hi-mod (10k€) and got 40% off.
@cameronmartin7195 ай бұрын
I'd love to see them make an alloy Version of the brand new Epic EVO. That's a bike I would ride everywhere!
@yonglingng56405 ай бұрын
Is the aluminium Stumpjumper too much for you?
@silver_c1oud4 ай бұрын
@@yonglingng5640it is. we want alloy epic
@rolandcolavizza53685 ай бұрын
gravel is now what cross country used to be , and cross country in now enduro . they just changed the naming
@Jean-jk4zv4 ай бұрын
and they make more money
@johnblackham44435 ай бұрын
Just want to say “I love to watch XC racing .” Today’s tracks are very exiting on the pro circuit”Hope everyone remembers how important fork offset is in bike handling! Enjoy 😎
@epd15845 ай бұрын
I can't believe how no one talks about how slow these slack bikes are in real single-track thats not pointed straight down. 65.9 HTA this will be an absolute snail in tight woods.
@ClownPatroI5 ай бұрын
No mate. Trail bikes and beyond run even slacker HTA and they are designed to deal with even more sharp cornering technical terrain. Further, 1-2 degrees difference doesn’t completely change the character of a bike from fast > snail (and vice versa).
@epd15845 ай бұрын
@@ClownPatroI No man I am not talking about steep terrain I am talking tight twisty woods. Slacking adds stability not agility its math my man. I have ridden/owned ever version of the epic since the original 2003 model and raced at XC1 level. XC bikes like this are great for World Cup style courses but not for everyday XC. Not everyone is doing 4ft drops in xc races. This is as slack as a Stumpjumper (which I also own) I love the Stumpjumper because it is NOT an XC bike but the new epics geo almost mirrors the SJ headtube geometry.
@RH-vp8gr5 ай бұрын
Slack bikes are awful for riding mellow trails. Again with steep long climbs it’s not great. Most xc rides for people are A to B on a smooth bridleway, not WC tracks.
@johnlesoudeur36535 ай бұрын
Totally agree, I have a Scott Spark RC and prefer the 67.2 degree head angle though I have the opportunity to change it to 66.6 or down to 66.0 by changing/rotating the head cups.@@epd1584
@Bread_Garlichouse4 ай бұрын
All this horse manure about "xc getting gnarlier" just makes the XC bikes get heavier with each edition. They're basically lighter weight trail bikes these days. Have a Cannondale 2019 FSI and Sworks epic from 2021 that I weight weenied to 7.6kg and 9.1 respectively. The former, which is a hardtail does the job for the XC courses of yore more than adequately.
@ClownPatroI5 ай бұрын
Big fan of the geometry - slack HTA and steep STA is what you want
@RGCastro75 ай бұрын
Beautiful machine!
@ichor205 ай бұрын
When specialized put out thos teaser announcements, i thought it was gonna be a new venge
@bikeradar5 ай бұрын
Hmm model year 2026?
@Thysdrus75 ай бұрын
Have the brakes levers been switched...rear brake on the left and front brake on the right?
@TomMarvin15 ай бұрын
This is how 99% of UK riders set their brakes up (called Moto in some places) - rear on left, front on right.
@Jean-jk4zv4 ай бұрын
@@TomMarvin1 same for shifters I hope ? 🤣
@jordangrant1989Ай бұрын
How is the reverb dropper controlled? I see the flight attendant buttons on the left side of the bars (pod controller) but no reverb button. I know about the blip button hack that the pros use. Surely there’s a “proper” method by now.. Anyone know?
@benjy2885 ай бұрын
So they've basically turned a cross country bike into a short travel enduro bike, I remember when cross country bikes had sharp steering, not this one I guess.
@crislee40575 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about that SiD-fork, mine lastet 200 km on a trail bike and got her bushings massacred.....
@Jean-jk4zv4 ай бұрын
Had a Rockshox don't remember the model fail under load after a few rides,. They replaced it quickly and charge free of course but that was not reassuring at all, 2 years later another one started to leak oil near the rotating knob... Never had a problem with Fox.
@jasonblann335 ай бұрын
the future of cross country there is no racing
@stivenpineros34104 ай бұрын
Buena tarde, cordial saludo 🫡. Asombroso los paisajes y excelente descripción de las Bike. Mil gracias 🙏🏼
@Ih8GoogleandApple5 ай бұрын
Here’s another $12K bike you don’t need. Just get that used top of the range $6k model from 5 yrs ago
@slh7535 ай бұрын
Have you watched the whole video? They talk about that at the end. Cool tech tho 😊
@verynaughty65635 ай бұрын
But as the guy said at the end, you're buying the bike that the pro's race. It's the latest premium model. You're right in saying that most people, if anyone needs this bike, in the same way nobody needs a top end luxury car to get from a- b, but we still have Rolls Royce.
@youling19975 ай бұрын
it's at $14500 now....
@petercook75025 ай бұрын
Stop watching then and toddle off to ebay...
@87togabito5 ай бұрын
True, I don’t need it. But it’s MY money, and while I don’t want it either (I’m happy with my pivot switchblade), I wouldn’t mind throwing my money at it if I wanted it, because I can. The last thing I would do is throw my money at some outdated bike off Craigslist . That’s imo the real waste of good money; imagine paying good money for something that’s already outdated even before you’ve ridden it. True, you’re probably be faster than me on the trails. But guess what, I don’t care. What I care about is having a better bike than you, so deal with it 😂😂
@cendricwerleman34435 ай бұрын
scott is stillthe best @bikeradar
@funLad805 ай бұрын
I can see you tested L size frame? Could you tell me how tall you are? I am in between M and L at 5’10. Appreciate your help
@TomMarvin15 ай бұрын
Hi there, yeah I'm 6-foot / 182cm and Large was spot on
@funLad805 ай бұрын
@@TomMarvin1Thank you
@dommccabe175 ай бұрын
£12k. hah hah. No wonder the bike industry is on its arse. Another bike for the bankers
@Jean-jk4zv4 ай бұрын
nope, my dentist got one
@glennicol13615 ай бұрын
Do regular people buy a bike like this? Considering a mountain bike has a pretty hard life... It would be weird spending so much on a mountain bike. Will be curious to know how many they sell...
@Jean-jk4zv4 ай бұрын
like he said at the end S-Works are for Professional riders, they sell it to the mass but I extremely rarely see one in the wild. and it's often a 50 year old man in full spandex. would like to know the sale numbers related to msrp prices !
@123phobia12312 күн бұрын
i havent even seen a second of the video, but i can already tell that its: 7% lighter, 10% stiffer, reworked suspension kinematics for gNaRLy trails, worlds lightest frame and all those marketing BS
@johnvira15295 ай бұрын
wasn't hard tail was discontinued
@clarencecruden75785 ай бұрын
Can we buy the fork and rear suspension separately??
@Svenmpa5 ай бұрын
You can but unfortunately the rear shock don't seem to fit many bikes AFAIK.
@stephenmacdonald67515 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is twist grips 1990s tech?
@petercook75025 ай бұрын
Its you... trying to be clever...
@stephenmacdonald67515 ай бұрын
OK thanks for the input. Clearly 1990s tech
@petercook75025 ай бұрын
Glad you paid no attention to it
@mobilemonster76815 ай бұрын
Wby is everyone always refering to demons/devils these days?
@meliodashadeyoshi21155 ай бұрын
Way to over priced
@waynebritten5 ай бұрын
So now they are copying Scott with 120 front and back
@7XFF5 ай бұрын
Yes because Scott invented Arabic numerals and cycling metrics
@waynebritten5 ай бұрын
@@7XFF that doesn't make any sense at all
@geetee40375 ай бұрын
For £12k, it should be the best bike on the planet. But, nobody needs half the tech on this bike and it'll be lost on all but a few pros. One piece bars are just stupid, as are internally routed cables. Expect a massive service bill to go with your ridiculous XC bike if you buy one. I'm quickly getting bored with tech on bikes, it's becoming more about letting the bike sort you out and not your riding. I get enjoyment from my single speed gravel bike because it has almost zero tech other than cheap hydraulic brakes and tubeless tyres. £300 too, same price as those bars! 😂 I know this bike would be fast but it's not worth the money for the outcome.
@TomMarvin15 ай бұрын
"and it'll be lost in all but a few pros" - to be fair to Specialized, it's those few pros that the bike is aimed at. The three bikes in the range that are cheaper don't come with Flight Attendant 👌
@geetee40375 ай бұрын
@@TomMarvin1 they know people will buy this one.
@TomMarvin15 ай бұрын
@@geetee4037 oh, of course!
@petercook75025 ай бұрын
I would guess very few will buy the top s works version. Its for racers and especially racers that dont have to buy their bike. Any ordinary person will buy one of the 'cheaper' models. Why whinge about the price and the tech etc. being stupid Its not a compulsory purchase, just go and buy a bike that suits you and stop moaning
@geetee40375 ай бұрын
@@petercook7502 it drives the price up across the industry and the cheaper models are still comedy money, that's why I l moan. Scott and Trek, etc will try set the bar higher so they can also ensure they have a ridiculously overpriced bike and so on. You don't like? Dry your eyes, nobody cares.
@lindonandlisa81145 ай бұрын
You really do get what you paid formula one of Mountain bikes
@mikeoxmells-grim7965 ай бұрын
you don't actually. Very little value for what you are paying.
@gregweever58955 ай бұрын
This bike is a waste of money, fuck specialized.
@petercook75025 ай бұрын
Technically that would be difficult to achieve even for you
@Daniel-ynuhnunu5 ай бұрын
First
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