Spinosaurus: Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong #17

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Chaotic Good

Chaotic Good

8 жыл бұрын

thegeekgroup.org/ - It's finally here, the oft-requested episode looking at Spinosaurus! Steve picks the toy over, and shows why spinosaurus is much more unique than just "the meat eater with the sail on its back."
Video Links:
00:57 www.sciencemag.org/content/345...
01:04 www.sciencemag.org/content/sup...
03:57 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kem_Kem...
09:27 ngm.nationalgeographic.com/201...
14:42 peerj.com/articles/1323/#disc...
15:00 theropoda.blogspot.com/2014/09...
15:33 www.flickr.com/photos/bernied...
19:09 www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/nature/b...
19:54 www.thegeekgroup.org/
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@hr8890hr
@hr8890hr 3 жыл бұрын
"We don't have as much of the tail as maybe we would want" 2020: "Allow me to introduce myself"
@stephenballard3759
@stephenballard3759 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, this one already needs a small update.
@spderweb
@spderweb 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenballard3759 small? Spinosaur has undergone a huge transformation.
@MWSin1
@MWSin1 2 жыл бұрын
If I was going to tell 2015 what's going to happen in 2020, I don't think I'd start with "We got a more complete Spinosaurus tail specimen."
@kyleward3914
@kyleward3914 2 жыл бұрын
@@MWSin1 I would. You don't lead with the bad news.
@jaybookout121
@jaybookout121 2 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments looking for this
@idrawsdinosaurs400
@idrawsdinosaurs400 4 жыл бұрын
"we don't have as much of a tail as we would want" ah, the precious days of 2015, thinking that any part of Spinosaurus's body could possibly be normal.
@dynamoterror7077
@dynamoterror7077 2 жыл бұрын
How is this already outdated?!? I love spino, but it changes shape more often than an octopus.
@JakalTalk
@JakalTalk 2 жыл бұрын
new d&d monster: shape-shifting Spino-Octopus
@uchuuseijin
@uchuuseijin 10 ай бұрын
I'm from the future and he's different again
@cryoking5025
@cryoking5025 9 ай бұрын
Facts
@kingangst233
@kingangst233 2 ай бұрын
The day Spinosaurus stops changing is the day the world ends
@z3r0fucksgiven59
@z3r0fucksgiven59 4 жыл бұрын
6:45 "We don't have as much of the tail as maybe we would want" Laughs in 2020.
@diamador4471
@diamador4471 8 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how the paleontologists who discovered these dinosaurs would react if they saw how their dinosaurs actually looked like.
@StevenBellettini
@StevenBellettini 8 жыл бұрын
+Diego Amador I wonder the same thing! Mostly I think they'd be gratified to see how much workers can learn from a single specimen these days. (That said, it's very rarely "what they actually looked like" so much as "what we know about them now, which might change next week.")
@ThePrimalEarth
@ThePrimalEarth 8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Bellettini well we know exactly what anchorins looked like
@a.morphous66
@a.morphous66 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine how William Buckland would react. “Wait, these things were bipedal? They were fast and intelligent? They were BIRDS?! What the FUCK are you talking about?!”
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, can we even prove definitively that most dinosaurs weren't encased in a mucous membrane, like giant land slugs with vestigial skeletons beneath? I know that's absurd, but, the point stands (slugs?) that soft tissue structures and such aren't very reliably built from skeletal remains alone. I recall we found that bit of tail a few years ago, so, the slug hypothesis doesn't check out too well... but can you prove they didn't have turkey-gobblers?
@bensosnowski1128
@bensosnowski1128 2 жыл бұрын
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 yes haha yes we can. Just by looking at the bone structure you can tell how an animal moved, ate, and with information already known about it’s relatives one can therefore create a very well educated guess as to the recreation of the creature in its entirety.
@TREYtheExplainer
@TREYtheExplainer 8 жыл бұрын
Yesss! I've been waiting so long! I love all your videos
@MisterPigLord
@MisterPigLord 8 жыл бұрын
What? Trey watches this? Makes sense I guess, pretty much your video. Dimetrodon though, still bugs me that it hasn't been updated.
@StevenBellettini
@StevenBellettini 8 жыл бұрын
+XmasPig We'll revisit _Dimetrodon_ when/if we ever go back to the Permian period; until then, as long as folk absorb that it ain't a Dinosaur, I'm happy. Thanks for watching!
@MisterPigLord
@MisterPigLord 8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Bellettini Yay, that's perfect.
@MisterPigLord
@MisterPigLord 8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Bellettini Please do carnotaurus because I don't feel like there are a lot of clearly accurate depictions to give a good image.
@MisterPigLord
@MisterPigLord 8 жыл бұрын
+XmasPig I just made a dubble comment :(. KZfaq comment loading is so broken, I've reloades them multiple times now and every time some comments don't show up.
@rickyabell6309
@rickyabell6309 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a part 2 now that we have more info on the tail especially
@maddox2261
@maddox2261 3 жыл бұрын
and the whole knuckle-walking thing
@Algeriawindows69
@Algeriawindows69 2 жыл бұрын
@@maddox2261 yeah now the quadropidal Spinosaurus is inaccurate
@achintyaupadhyay5528
@achintyaupadhyay5528 8 жыл бұрын
'and i made myself sad, coz i'll never get to do that' 16:41
@lauch4562
@lauch4562 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@neoblackheart746
@neoblackheart746 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing till he mentioned it.
@ryandraghifari3756
@ryandraghifari3756 3 жыл бұрын
let's just.. revive the goddamn Spinosaurus so he could do that, protecc his smile we must..
@pimentinha1121
@pimentinha1121 3 жыл бұрын
Ark: Survival Evolved is a thing now
@terrorbird3080
@terrorbird3080 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@kaktussurvival6782
@kaktussurvival6782 2 жыл бұрын
You should do "your dinosaurs are wrong was WRONG" episode for spinosaurus. I bet all of us would love to see it after all the news we got since this episode came out.
@thongorshengar
@thongorshengar 10 ай бұрын
The joke is that this could be a monthly, if not a weekly content😂😂😂
@Tryptamann
@Tryptamann 3 жыл бұрын
You should revisit the spino with the recent updates on the tail shape and all
@benforsey
@benforsey 2 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely insane how much our picture of Spinosaurus has changed recently. Might be more dramatic than any other dinosaur discovered so far
@drewforchic9083
@drewforchic9083 4 жыл бұрын
6:44 They found the tail, and it's an aquatic adaptation! Just a few weeks ago, a study was released about a new, more complete Spinosaurus fossil they just found. The neural spines on the caudal vertebrae (the bit that sticks upward out of the tail bones) are really tall, so we now think it had a finned, eel-like tail that it used for swimming. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nKqYosl-nZe2gXk.html
@IICJZII
@IICJZII 4 жыл бұрын
This year spinosaurus got EVEN weirder. As if it could.
@Arva_
@Arva_ 3 жыл бұрын
2020: no, thats wrong tail
@limoucheu8522
@limoucheu8522 3 жыл бұрын
Difficult to talk about a discover before we did it!
@something402
@something402 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@nordicberry8383
@nordicberry8383 3 жыл бұрын
2020: no, thats wrong sail also maybe possibly
@DragonFruitXVI
@DragonFruitXVI 3 жыл бұрын
it was not all wrong just the tail and the theories on balance.
@thenameguy8126
@thenameguy8126 7 жыл бұрын
I always looked at Spinosaurus and I always said "He must be a great swimmer."
@bm3350
@bm3350 4 жыл бұрын
You. The big brain.
@dinaradossymbekova2393
@dinaradossymbekova2393 3 жыл бұрын
He is a great swimmer. He has a tail like a fish
@dmdizzy
@dmdizzy 3 жыл бұрын
3 years later, and the latest spino find has validated your hunch.
@barbarjinx3802
@barbarjinx3802 3 жыл бұрын
No
@polarbear6197
@polarbear6197 3 жыл бұрын
And your right!
@christianwendt7852
@christianwendt7852 3 жыл бұрын
And then came 2021, and Spinosaurus is a fierce stork (minus the flying and the babies)
@t.b.cont.
@t.b.cont. 8 жыл бұрын
The new spinosaurus is like a pelican, crocodile, dinosaur hybrid And I love it
@t.b.cont.
@t.b.cont. 8 жыл бұрын
And to make them even more crocodile like, crocodiles are one of the only other animal to have pressure sensors on such a pattern or place
@myusername3689
@myusername3689 5 жыл бұрын
Gharial not croc.
@kylefrank638
@kylefrank638 5 жыл бұрын
But like the guy says in the video, that's way cooler. Aquatic and spiny dinosaurs are beast.
@Leonardo-kl4nq
@Leonardo-kl4nq 5 жыл бұрын
@@kylefrank638 it has been discovered that occasionally it could eat some pterosaurs too if I'm not mistaken
@pain002
@pain002 4 жыл бұрын
I detest it
@nathanielk7415
@nathanielk7415 2 жыл бұрын
Spino is my favourite dinosaur because he always finds a way to get even weirder to confuse scientists, in just 6 years he's yet again completely different
@theorangeninja6486
@theorangeninja6486 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting for the follow-up episode describing the new gigantic paddle tail
@kirainkwell7755
@kirainkwell7755 4 жыл бұрын
‘We don’t have as much of the tail as maybe we would want’ Honestly the discovery of the fin like tail has made me so happy, the more we can learn about dinosaurs the better!!!
@quentondolejsi2138
@quentondolejsi2138 8 жыл бұрын
the shape of the sail probably varied in bone structure, meaning each sail of an individual spinosaur was different.
@StevenBellettini
@StevenBellettini 8 жыл бұрын
+quenton dolejsi How much so, though?
@daltonyoung8694
@daltonyoung8694 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Bellettini I think of it as fingerprints, very small differences. Like maybe 5-6 small bumps on one and like 9 on another
@jasonvoorhees5180
@jasonvoorhees5180 5 жыл бұрын
Not much support for that
@dinaradossymbekova2393
@dinaradossymbekova2393 3 жыл бұрын
#LogicPaleontology
@_veronica_r
@_veronica_r 3 жыл бұрын
It could have also changed with age as well. Not to say that it did, but it's possible
@hollydaye5602
@hollydaye5602 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do a Spino update!
@tommystofko6004
@tommystofko6004 4 ай бұрын
'Other dinosaurs are too scared to be as weird as spinosaurus' *Deinocheirus stepping into the ring*
@Owyourhurtingme
@Owyourhurtingme 3 жыл бұрын
Most recently they’ve deduced Spinosaurus fed like a giant stork.
@lidu6363
@lidu6363 5 жыл бұрын
I love how your enthusiasm seeps through even though you're trying to look like a super serious biology professor.
@TalesofStories
@TalesofStories 2 жыл бұрын
2021: This video needs to be renamed MDAW (My Dinosaurs Are Wrong). I'd really like to see an update.
@monsterpartial2037
@monsterpartial2037 4 жыл бұрын
"We don't have as much of the tail as maybe we would want-" just wait, past-Steven. 2020's got a gift for you.
@megalodon7916
@megalodon7916 8 жыл бұрын
Not bad. Notice how the final model still stands its hind legs. It probably could move bipedally. Maybe not as well as other theropods, but it could still manage. It probably switched from standing on all fours and bipedally depending on what the situation required. I'd also like to say that, since this video was released, Spinosaurus has only gotten weirder. A new study this year now suggests that it's jaws were far more flexible than that of other theropods, and were similar in some ways to those of Pelicans and snakes, enabling them to stretch their jaws wide enough to swallow even small dinosaurs whole. This thing really was a freak of nature, which is why it remains my favorite dinosaur.
@maryudomah4387
@maryudomah4387 5 жыл бұрын
Spino has been my favorite since JP3. Knowing that one was super wrong and seeing how it really looked just makes it even cooler to me.
@a.morphous66
@a.morphous66 5 жыл бұрын
My idea is that the Spino would certainly need a partially quadrupedal posture for its piscivorous diet. It would need to bend down a lot, which would be absolutely hellish for a front-heavy animal like the Spino, so it would use its arms to hold itself up.
@paulaleo1287
@paulaleo1287 5 жыл бұрын
I think it stood up like a bear or meerkat balancing on its tail but not for long because of its weight
@primeribgaming2681
@primeribgaming2681 5 жыл бұрын
Megalodon Exactly
@cristhianmlr
@cristhianmlr 5 жыл бұрын
@@a.morphous66 That's why the Sereno work is still controversial to this day. It is extremely difficult for an animal like Spinosaurus to be quadrupedal, given how they forearems are clearly not adapted for supporting its mass.
@calvintuber15000
@calvintuber15000 3 жыл бұрын
At the time this was made, I am so, SO glad they didn't use the quadrupedal Spinosaurus position, which is now outdated.
@xfluffy
@xfluffy 2 жыл бұрын
Spinosaurus went from a big trex with a spine to a giant crocodile mixed with a duck
@austincurry5317
@austincurry5317 5 жыл бұрын
Spinosaurus has always been my favorite dinosaur ever since I saw Jurassic Park III as a kid. In recent years, I've found that the increasing information we've found about Spinosaurus makes me love it even more.
@Fish-um7dh
@Fish-um7dh 5 жыл бұрын
I've been playing a lot of jurassic world evolution lately and I think it would have been much cooler if they had gone with this more accurate spinosaurus instead of the classic Jurassic park spinosaurus. It's got a lot of bright color on the crest and it's very pretty but it's like you said where it's just t-rex with longer arms and a funky back.
@5raptorboy1
@5raptorboy1 8 жыл бұрын
I love what people say about the new study. For every other discovery: "Oh cool." A discovery that changes a fundamental thing about our knowledge of that dinosaur/dinosaurs altogether: "That seems pretty shady and ridiculous. I don't think it's true."
@vvaldbeere
@vvaldbeere 8 жыл бұрын
What do you mean with new study? The 2014 that proofs that is was quadrupedal or the newer ones disproving that?
@5raptorboy1
@5raptorboy1 8 жыл бұрын
Dem Markus sein Profil It's still pretty new, considering paleontology has been around for hundreds of years.
@vvaldbeere
@vvaldbeere 8 жыл бұрын
5raptorboy1 Yes, but what did you mean? That was the question.
@5raptorboy1
@5raptorboy1 8 жыл бұрын
Dem Markus sein Profil The quadruped study, sorry for being a bit confusing.
@vvaldbeere
@vvaldbeere 8 жыл бұрын
5raptorboy1 Ahh, ok. I personally didn't care about that although I just can't imagine how in a family that is entirely bipedal, a quadruped just pops out of nowhere. I mean Evolution is just awesome, but all close relatives like suchomimus were biped so I was really confused at that time. That's why I personally still don't really belive it. Also the newer studies are a bit more convincing for me. But it really is sad how pop-culture made people blind about these animals. No one wants to accept that most of these were feathered :(
@pinkdaruma8942
@pinkdaruma8942 8 жыл бұрын
new Spino is still cool but in a different way. I try to imagine what reactions would the XIX and early XX century paleontologists would have if they saw how "their dinosaus" would actually look like.
@belisauriusfish9406
@belisauriusfish9406 8 жыл бұрын
Hopefully awe
@mexa_t6534
@mexa_t6534 6 жыл бұрын
Felipe Andrade I’m hoping they won’t act like all those Jurassic Park fanboys claiming that the new discoveries have “ruined their childhoods” or in their case “ruined their work”.
@christostryfonopouls5204
@christostryfonopouls5204 2 жыл бұрын
So cool that this is already out of date, spinosaurus gets more badass every year!
@Nord_Kitten
@Nord_Kitten 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this needs to be revisited! We now have more of the tail!
@Leon-bc8hm
@Leon-bc8hm 9 ай бұрын
Spinosaurus needs an update again.
@sanderp9768
@sanderp9768 5 жыл бұрын
The knuckles are too frail to walk on; they'd break. His legs were long enough to walk on but still shorter than the other therapods. He definitely couldn't walk on all fours tho! 16:40 also he is so freakin cute hahah
@bramsteenhoek2674
@bramsteenhoek2674 4 жыл бұрын
It's now revealed it had a swimming tail so it probably wouldn't have to walk on it's legs that much
@thechickhouse2985
@thechickhouse2985 4 ай бұрын
Can’t wait until this gets reuploaded on the new channel and gets updated!
@zachb8012
@zachb8012 5 жыл бұрын
New Spinosaurus, a badass super crocodilian, makes a lot more sense and I find it much more interesting than the skinny t-rex theropod of old. The s-curve spine seems like it'd be exceptionally good at lunging forward, kind of like an egret, and the posture even makes a lot more sense as I'd imagine it dragging its belly like a crocodilian in most cases. All things considered behaving more like a crocodile makes its most distinctive feature seem perfectly sensible! I only wish I could see the real deal in action.
@Stereo3DProductions
@Stereo3DProductions 8 жыл бұрын
I think the game ARK Survival Evolved should be looked at in this series. Not necessarily to criticize their lesser depictions (ie: the Dilos right out of Jurassic Park) rather to look at their oddly accurate ones (Trike, Spinosaurus, Utahraptor, etc) Plus in this context you'd get to go over actual locomotion. If you need to be happy again, speaking of that game, it supports Virtual reality and you can tame and ride most dinosaurs including the Spinosaur. You can't feel the touch, but you can get crazy close. Also I'd love to see someone with Paleo cred criticize their Theropod hands always facing down :-D
@HoveringAboveMyself
@HoveringAboveMyself 8 жыл бұрын
+Stereo3DProductions What's accurate about the Triceratops with Styracosaurus head gear, elephant legs with turtle feet and gigantic tail of out the early 1900s? or what's accurate about that broken-wristed Jurassic Park 3 copycat of a raptor with that half-assed feathering? The Spinosaurus, gets the overall body plan right, proportions and details wrong... which is no better than what can be said for even their worst models.
@Spinoterror31896
@Spinoterror31896 8 жыл бұрын
+Stereo3DProductions Lol sauropod sized Giganotosaurus.
@Stereo3DProductions
@Stereo3DProductions 8 жыл бұрын
Fang Lee My worst fear is when they finally put in the Oviraptor. Looks like a gecko with a beak. Heck, their "Dodorex" mock creature looks more like an Oviraptor than their Oviraptor. They get carried away here and there, but with the bar so low in pop culture depictions of dinos, I feel this game has paid a welcome attention to accuracy, as little as it may be. Heck the last Jurassic Park movie jumped the shark in comparison!
@Spinoterror31896
@Spinoterror31896 8 жыл бұрын
Stereo3DProductions Dodo rex just felt kind of unreasonable to be in tbh...but they did mention they'll begin to take the fantasy route now. I don't know, I just don't understand why they'd go so far to make accurate dinosaurs to unrealistic dinosaurs. However like you said, they did at least welcome accurate depictions. So that is a plus... And no kidding, that mosasaurus and shark weren't their actual size. The shark should've been bigger and the mosasaurus should've been smaller. Oh well, can't deny it wasn't entertaining (for me at least).
@miksmerc
@miksmerc 8 жыл бұрын
The ones you named are really inaccurate. But they aldo have spiky JPish Dilos, plesiosaurs with horn-claw-armor thingies on their faces, 5 story tall mammooths with 4 spiky fangs (or what those things were), a titanoboa with a frill, and so much more.
@greghawkins59
@greghawkins59 3 жыл бұрын
And now there's even more weirdness about spinosaurus 😂
@dps0610
@dps0610 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a weird animal. So much of it doesn't make sense when you think about it in terms of it being on land, and with the new information basically making it a pelican alligator is just crazy to imagine.
@JulesSpaniard
@JulesSpaniard 2 жыл бұрын
Now you need to do a Your Dinosaurs are wrong of this episode, :)
@moukidelmar
@moukidelmar 8 жыл бұрын
Seems like they fill the same general niche as a bear. It moved mostly on all fours and could rear up on their hind legs and even walk around like that for a while, but their not dexterous that way
@kyle857
@kyle857 6 жыл бұрын
moukidelmar More like a crocodile. Eating mostly fish.
@vorpalweapon4814
@vorpalweapon4814 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was that flexible
@Azuris190
@Azuris190 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Spinosaurus swim tranquil in this posture on a Lake. No imagine a Spinosaurus with Feathers. Now you have a really big Duck.
@AngelEmfrbl
@AngelEmfrbl 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen people sat, 'but feathers would hinder it in the water'... yeah... let's pretend penguins, swans, ducks, gulls, grebes, coots, moorhens, etc don't exist and have feathers that benefit them. Like the claim feathers would cause parasites... yeah... they did... big ones. Modern birds get little ones at least. All pretty stupid.
@Hat_shaped
@Hat_shaped 4 жыл бұрын
6:45 And now we do. I love how we keep updating the spinosaurus (and dinosaurs in general) with new and new findings. It's like a never ending journey :)
@tooost1886
@tooost1886 3 жыл бұрын
Steven: We don’t have much of the tail 5 years later: H E T R I E D I T
@rens2998
@rens2998 8 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a carnotaurus
@IronSquid501
@IronSquid501 8 жыл бұрын
Carnotaurus would be great!
@nicktdg
@nicktdg 8 жыл бұрын
Yes. Carno please
@creamley1851
@creamley1851 8 жыл бұрын
I love carnotaurus!
@jdldrummer
@jdldrummer 8 жыл бұрын
+Your Best Friend I SENT them a Carnotaurus....
@creamley1851
@creamley1851 8 жыл бұрын
Henry Reed YAY
@AaronDuck
@AaronDuck 7 жыл бұрын
once I saw that figure I thought EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT IS WRONG lol
@Crunkboy415
@Crunkboy415 3 жыл бұрын
Spinosaurus: " I'm the biggest, most scary looking carnivorous dinosaur ever!" Me: "So what do you eat, big sauropods?" Spinosaurus: "No, um....fish...."
@JamesLockerby
@JamesLockerby 11 ай бұрын
You should do an episode on how spino was too big to walk and what that means for future reconstructions
@BionicleSaurus
@BionicleSaurus 8 жыл бұрын
0:43 OMG I'm there! :D
@dinosaurianempireiqs8509
@dinosaurianempireiqs8509 8 жыл бұрын
lol! I was surprised too!!!
@iluvyurbles
@iluvyurbles 8 жыл бұрын
+BionicleSaurus I noticed you, Cool to see how much you love this science ;)
@cluchun
@cluchun 5 жыл бұрын
BionicleSaurus I love your channel!
@mizulazuli8854
@mizulazuli8854 5 жыл бұрын
I saw you too
@lauch4562
@lauch4562 5 жыл бұрын
Wew!
@MylotheZooLovingScientist
@MylotheZooLovingScientist 3 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see an amended version of this sometime. I understand that the recent discovery by Ibrahim, et al. didn’t blow up our entire notion of Spinosaurus (which would “necessitate” a much more in-depth breakdown on Steven’s part), but rather confirmed what many of us had long suspected, but nonetheless, I would enjoy hearing Steven geek out about it.
@21Kikoshi
@21Kikoshi 11 ай бұрын
2023: "Wings...apparently it could walk, swim and fly"
@StelloTyrannus
@StelloTyrannus 3 жыл бұрын
6:45 “We don’t have as much as the tail as we want.” 2020 discovery: Are you sure about that?
@thatsinteresting3415
@thatsinteresting3415 2 жыл бұрын
You need to revisit the Spinosaur because new evidence has shown the tail has much more verticality than research in the last thought. I also am wondering if the Spinosaur could have been mostly aquatic, split between swimming in deeper waters, and wading through shallows, while rarely visiting land? Maybe that's totally wrong though.
@HoopsAndDinoMan
@HoopsAndDinoMan 7 жыл бұрын
Did other spinosaurids live the same way? Did Baryonyx have webbed feet and walk on all fours and have pressure sensors in its snout?
@8ballentertainment.885
@8ballentertainment.885 6 жыл бұрын
Who knows? Except I think we found a full skeleton
@Bob_Gray
@Bob_Gray 6 жыл бұрын
HaraPlaysYT 14:00
@egemenozcelik7494
@egemenozcelik7494 6 жыл бұрын
HaraPlaysYT nope
@egemenozcelik7494
@egemenozcelik7494 6 жыл бұрын
HaraPlaysYT spinosaurids were piscivores and they probably did have webbed feet and sensors like crocodilers i dunno about baryonx but its highly possible that spinosaurus was a quadraped dinosaur and a semi aquatic creature so webbed feet and sensors also was a thing
@egemenozcelik7494
@egemenozcelik7494 6 жыл бұрын
HaraPlaysYT spino is not the giant beast you saw on jurassic park 3 stop thinking like that
@scotttaylor7146
@scotttaylor7146 2 жыл бұрын
6:39 "We don't have much of the tail as maybe we would want" It's Always Sunny in the Cretaceous
@manslaughter3180
@manslaughter3180 4 жыл бұрын
Spinosauridae in general, along with Abelisauridae, contain my favourite prehistoric dinosaurs. I love how convergent evolution just looks at a Spinosaurus, then later looks at a pelican and goes: yeah, different but the same. I really love these softer, more round restorations, makes them look like actual animals.
@HernanToroA
@HernanToroA 2 жыл бұрын
This video requires a Follow-Up.
@PersePixels
@PersePixels 3 жыл бұрын
5 years later: "Oh no..."
@prettysalty8447
@prettysalty8447 4 жыл бұрын
Spinosaurus got updated yet again and now this is on my recommended
@shadowsfromolliesgraveyard6577
@shadowsfromolliesgraveyard6577 3 жыл бұрын
I know this was before the study about Spinosaurus having a tail sail, but I'm surprised it wasn't even raised as a possibility even though ichthyovenator is shown with a tail sail while bearing a less prominent sail overall.
@morteparla6926
@morteparla6926 6 жыл бұрын
They've revised it again, and come to the conclusion that Spinosaurus was likely bipedal. Which makes a lot more sense, for various reasons. The biggest reason among them being, not a single relative of Spinosaurus is a quadruped.
@Droemar
@Droemar 8 жыл бұрын
I saw the PBS documentary on the reconstruction and found it really interesting. I will admit to being a bit dubious about the 2014 reconstruction. I guess I feel there's no precedent, exactly? Every other theropod, including closely related species like Baryonyx, walks on two legs. I would really like to know more information on a Spinosaurus's hips, because it seems awfully extreme to me that this gigantic creature is the only one who made such adaptations, despite having physiology (bones) that overwhelmingly point to it being bipedal. Now, granted, it could well be that Spino being reconstructed like this means its brethren will get a similar overhaul and we will see quadrupedal Baryonyx and the like. Knuckle-walking also strikes me as a little far-fetched; usually there is reinforcement for such mechanisms (like Megatherium's magnificently fused radius and ulna), and the Spino's elegant foreclaws seem better suited to grabbing and holding down fish to assist the jaws. I just can't think of any other example on the Tree of Life where the broad strokes are there, but something is fundamentally reversed about the physiology. I'm not opposed to it on grounds of vanity or anything, but it just seems to stick out too much to me. It's too different. But I'd like to hear any rebuttals to my concerns. Your video certainly made an excellent argument for how such an animal not only could have lived but thrived.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 5 жыл бұрын
It seems that currently spinosaurus is tilting between bidedalism and quadrupedalism in the paleontological discussion, as it might have in life. I think the most recent consensus is that it was probably bipedal, but I'm not completely up to date either.
@DarkdustDragon
@DarkdustDragon 2 жыл бұрын
I almost think a redux episode needs to happen just because of how much of what we know had changed since this episode was made.
@jaschabull2365
@jaschabull2365 2 жыл бұрын
"Spinosaurus isn't as cool now that it's turned out to be aquatic." Crocodilians: Are we a joke to you?
@theblazingredcomet1954
@theblazingredcomet1954 8 жыл бұрын
suggestions for your dinosaurs are wrong: monolophosaurus, carnotaurus, orlorotitan, sinorinithosaurus, carcharodontosaurus, and giganotosaurus
@primalreversion7034
@primalreversion7034 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 3 жыл бұрын
Add in the dire wolf. He could have an opportunity to roast Game of Thrones Season 8.
@equarg
@equarg 7 жыл бұрын
Apparently a new study found that due the Chimera nature of the Spino model uses....they accidentally missed-sized the hind legs in according to the other bones used. The rear legs need to be a out 27% bigger. Giving Spino better capability to walk on it's hind legs like a standard Carnivore. BUT it could still walk on 4 legs like some aquatic herbivores. Would be useful in shallow water and fishing!
@williamhart2332
@williamhart2332 7 жыл бұрын
equarg So it couldn't swim? If so that's a bit of a downer :(
@gates_8122
@gates_8122 7 жыл бұрын
who said it couldn't swim its legs are just a bit longer so it would be awkward /difficult to do a quadrupedal stance
@robinliesens7983
@robinliesens7983 7 жыл бұрын
That's already proven to be wrong. The authors of the 2014 paper replied and showed what made the confusion possible. The legs aren't 27% longer, the original 2014 paper was right after all. There's nothing the suggest it walked on four legs. What we have of its front limbs and shoulder blade suggest nothing of it being capable of this. Also a new paper from 2016 showed that it wasn't too front heavy which was the argument the authors of the 2014 paper used to suggest it had to walk on all fours.
@xx_squirtle8621
@xx_squirtle8621 7 жыл бұрын
Robin Liesens it probably can walk on its back legs but can't run
@owene2530
@owene2530 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we went back in time and the dinosaurs looked EXACTLY like the very first reconstructions, that would be hilarious
@reubencaldwell8494
@reubencaldwell8494 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing how much spinosaurus has changed since yesterday, you should release a remake.
@jelle7680
@jelle7680 8 жыл бұрын
this spinosaurus looks so much cooler than the bipedal spinosaurus
@ultimatecarno6340
@ultimatecarno6340 8 жыл бұрын
IKR!!!!!!!!!
@noodle2351
@noodle2351 8 жыл бұрын
Finally someone agrees with me
@user-iy5un6ue3q
@user-iy5un6ue3q 8 жыл бұрын
isn't the 4 legged spino debunked? still agree though that this one looks better than both biped and 4 legged.
@gasattack2906
@gasattack2906 8 жыл бұрын
+MrTianlp where has this been debunked at?
@user-iy5un6ue3q
@user-iy5un6ue3q 8 жыл бұрын
Gas Attack well not debunked, more like under debate. the biped spino ain't good looking, nor does the quadruple one, But the short biped one makes the most sense.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 8 жыл бұрын
This is cool! You do any creature? How about Machairodus?
@AbtinX
@AbtinX 5 жыл бұрын
You are massively talented
@crystalheart9
@crystalheart9 6 жыл бұрын
Really great talk on Spinosaurus which is one of my favorite dinosaurs and Steve is one of my favorite speakers on dinosaurs. Great job!
@UrdnotChuckles
@UrdnotChuckles 8 жыл бұрын
While perhaps not 100% accurate, you can ride a Spino in Ark: Survival Evolved. :) They're all kinds of fun, and really great swimmers. :) I'd suggest you give it a try, if only to enjoy all the well rendered creatures.
@animalman57
@animalman57 8 жыл бұрын
By the way, the 2014 bones of Spinosaurus that seemed showed it was a knucle walker were actaully from a differnent spinosaurid called Sigilmassasaurus, so it's inaccuarte to say that Spinosaurus' legs were really short and it walked on 4 legs only. This was found out this year.
@vvaldbeere
@vvaldbeere 8 жыл бұрын
Since all spinosaurs had relatively short legs it's not false to say that Spinosaurus was short legged. But it's not quite accurate anymore to say it was quarupedal.
@mexa_t6534
@mexa_t6534 6 жыл бұрын
animalman57 he never said anything for sure tho.
@moek25
@moek25 2 жыл бұрын
12:31 2020 came in to say, yes the tail is adapted for life in water, but not like crocs
@zenebean
@zenebean 3 жыл бұрын
And then came 2020. Spinosaurus partially evolved to throw scientists for a loop, I'm sure, but I love it so much!
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 7 жыл бұрын
Of the Megalosaurians, I think Spinosaurus aegyptiacus is my favorite!
@Mudcrabes
@Mudcrabes 5 жыл бұрын
I find kinda hard to believe that no one has ever suggested that spinosaurus's jaws and the mouth of a salmon look so much alike.
@erwinheinrichstromer1156
@erwinheinrichstromer1156 4 жыл бұрын
There is now a new study by Ibrahim that shows a new eel-like tail
@katelyng2014
@katelyng2014 2 жыл бұрын
I love that I discovered this in 2021... just need an update to this video
@zt2ean
@zt2ean 8 жыл бұрын
DUDE. I have so much hype whenever I see a new YDAW in my inbox, and I watch it immediately. This was nowhere close to a disappointment-in fact, it's one of your best episodes yet. Keep on being awesome, and I look forward to the next installment. oh yeah and if requests are a thing then Leptoceratops cause it's my favorite dinosaur, haha
@dinosaurianempireiqs8509
@dinosaurianempireiqs8509 8 жыл бұрын
protoceratops
@Apex-cf9vk
@Apex-cf9vk 7 жыл бұрын
Dinofan 15 leptoceratops lived in north america and not mongolia keep IT together
@TheNamelessOne888
@TheNamelessOne888 6 жыл бұрын
It's so weird how birds are technically ornithischian (bird hipped) by definition, but actually descended from the saurischian (lizard hipped) side of the family tree of dinosaurs.
@bringmeliara1286
@bringmeliara1286 4 жыл бұрын
I used to think spinos were so boring because they were basically just "trex + sail" in toys and media, so I never looked into it. I can't believe I ever bought into that lmao, but I'm so glad paleontology is progressing smoothly and we're getting better ideas of how these amazing creatures might have looked.
@oh-gingersnap
@oh-gingersnap 5 жыл бұрын
This is me at Thanksgiving dinner talking about dinosaurs my family doesn't care about, getting more and more excited with each breakthrough and fact I mention.
@The_PokeSaurus
@The_PokeSaurus 8 жыл бұрын
Spinosaurus is my favorite animal that ever lived! :)
@veilofthevale974
@veilofthevale974 6 жыл бұрын
The Poke'Saurus SAME
@toonvandenbroeck1697
@toonvandenbroeck1697 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@GuadalupeMcGuilicutty
@GuadalupeMcGuilicutty 7 жыл бұрын
To me, the new spinosaurus looks bad ass
@dennislork
@dennislork 4 жыл бұрын
The Spinosaurus has been my favourite dinosaur since i was a child. It beeing semi-aquatic makes it even cooler in my eyes.
@LadyBrightcynder
@LadyBrightcynder 6 жыл бұрын
I've only watched two episodes so far and I'm in love with this series. Keep up the awesome work
@valiapavlou
@valiapavlou 7 жыл бұрын
1:21-1:25 If you read this below, you'll perceive those 5 seconds in a WAY different way Like what you'd see in a bee movie attacking a city
@riamus7258
@riamus7258 8 жыл бұрын
6:39 MEGATHERIUMUS SPINUS!
@rjpinaz_3682
@rjpinaz_3682 7 жыл бұрын
i love the new spinosaurus it looks so cool
@M_Alexander
@M_Alexander 2 жыл бұрын
"Enormous aquatic hyper-carnivore" is way better than "T. rex with a sail"
@timhyatt9185
@timhyatt9185 8 жыл бұрын
I think it's far more fascinating to find it's a semi-aquatic creature, filling a niche something on the par with a crocodile. philogenically, how do they relate to something like the pliosaurs or mosasaurs??
@StevenBellettini
@StevenBellettini 7 жыл бұрын
The exact relationship between the major saurian lineages is kinda poorly resolved, but the animals you named were very distant: Pliosaurs & Mosasaurs were more closely related to each other, and to modern turtles & snakes, respectively, than they were to the dinosaurs.
@troyadams19
@troyadams19 8 жыл бұрын
It seems like the developers of Ark did a really good job modelling Spinosaurus, it looks almost exactly as described in this. Absolutely terrifying up close.
@TheIshikawaRin
@TheIshikawaRin 8 жыл бұрын
+Troy Adams It looks too aquatic to me; all that webbing. But everything else, yeah.
@5raptorboy1
@5raptorboy1 8 жыл бұрын
+Troy Adams Actually, no. The fins are ok, but they're in places that would make no sense. It's also FAR too big, and walks on hands, which would have been impossible for the animal. Rather, it would have walked on its knuckles.
@troyadams19
@troyadams19 8 жыл бұрын
5raptorboy1 Could you source your info for the size? It matches the one in this description pretty much perfectly from what I can tell.
@MayaPatch
@MayaPatch 6 жыл бұрын
Troy Adams the new spino model at least is a way better and the details are awesome!
@kyle857
@kyle857 5 жыл бұрын
5raptorboy1 aquatic animals have denser bones. Be careful about using the phrase impossible with biology.
@2RANbit
@2RANbit 8 ай бұрын
Cocerning some early reconstruuction attempts, an illustration occured which showed a Spinosaurus with a vertabrate sloping down from its head to the post- hip beginning of its tail. The extended spines looked quite as they are shown today, BUT: the skull in the head was way off; it looked like it was a tyrrannosaurid. Probably, it was used because the skull's actual shape was not known at that time, and the backbone was also reconstructed to run horizontally rather than at a slant.
@cryoking5025
@cryoking5025 Жыл бұрын
Little did they know, this would be outdated in like a month
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