Spoon Knife Edge Geometry Explained

Spoon Knife Edge Geometry Explained - Nic Westermann

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I spent time with renowned tool maker Nic Westermann of ‘Hewn & Hone’ at his workshop in rural Wales
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Connect with Nic using the links below:
Nic Website - www.hewnandhone.co.uk
Nic Instagram - / hewnandhone
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Check out the Bodgers Association - www.bodgers.org.uk
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The other videos I filmed with Nic Westermann:
Nic Westermann - Important updates, Ordering tools, Waiting list, Etc - • Nic Westermann - Impor...
Hewn & Hone - Introduction by Nic Westermann - • Hewn & Hone - Introduc...
[Step by Step] Build A Two & Half Brick Forge - Nic Westermann - • [Step by Step] Build A...
(Pt 1/5) How To Make A Turning Sloyd Knife - Forging, Annealing & Rough Shaping - • {Pt 1/5} How To Make A...
(Pt 2/5) How To Make A Turning Sloyd Knife - Heat Treat - • {Pt 2/5} How To Make A...
(Pt 3/5) How To Make A Turning Sloyd Knife - Establishing Profile & Grinding Bevel - • {Pt 3/5} How To Make A...
(Pt 4/5) How To Make A Turning Sloyd Knife - Handle Making & Fitting - • {Pt 4/5} How To Make A...
(Pt 5/5) How To Make A Turning Sloyd Knife - Sharpening & Maintenance - • {Pt 5/5} How To Make A...
Spoon Knife Edge Geometry - *THIS VIDEO YOU ARE WATCHING*
How To Sharpen A Spoon/Hook Knife & Twca Cam - • How To Sharpen A Spoon...
How To Make A Kolrosing Knife From An Old Drill Bit - • How To Make A Kolrosin...
How To Hollow Grind & Sharpen A Sloyd Knife - • How To Hollow Grind & ...
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Below is a timestamp of all the sections in this video:
(Click on the time on the left to go straight to that section)
00:00:00 - Start
00:02:25 - Importance of understanding spoon knife geometry
00:03:47 - Various bevel forms for hollowing
00:07:42 - Crowning when bending steel
00:14:15 - How to mitigate crowning when forging
00:15:02 - Forge hinge without hollowing
00:21:18 - Forge hinge with hollowing
00:27:31 - Compare crowning on hollow vs no-hollow
00:29:26 - Different methods for hollowing
00:31:45 - Crowning varies when bending metal
00:34:55 - Budget spoon knives vs premium spoon knives
00:39:00 - Conclusion & Bodgers association
00:38:59 - Outro
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As always I appreciate you watching
Take care
Peace
Zed
#blacksmith #sharpening #toolmaking

Пікірлер: 53

@Zedoutdoors 28 күн бұрын

Click here to watch part two of this two-part series - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLuai9GDzti8pKM.html

@accordingtopete555 28 күн бұрын

I think you’ve found your long lost brother

@simonbarnard1861 28 күн бұрын

😂

@debluetailfly 28 күн бұрын

Looks like I am not the only one who saw a strong resemblance.

@Zedoutdoors 27 күн бұрын

All we need now is a Jerry Springer reveal on stage ~Peace~

@donscottvansandt4139 18 күн бұрын

Love your diplomacy. Art of in any kind is subjective and a learning process. It really bothers me when I see people downing others who are just not as far along or going a different direction than they. I believe in encouraging not discouraging. This is in my opinion how we progress as a species. Thank you 🙏

@Zedoutdoors 17 күн бұрын

Totally agree and when it comes down to it, we are all eternal students ~Peace~

@donscottvansandt4139 17 күн бұрын

@@Zedoutdoors I know I am. And am in love with learning. To me this is growth.

@talkin-ape 20 күн бұрын

R2 Wood here... Fantastic to get this info from Nic out there for all to see. Being an owner of many of his tools and many chats, I was familiar with the bevel geometry parts but never knew about the crowning with bent steel. Fascinating stuff! Thanks Zed and Nic, and extra thanks for the shout out to the Bodgers org.

@Zedoutdoors 17 күн бұрын

I only learnt about the crowning effect a couple of years ago, so you're not the only one who wasn't aware of it. Credit to Nic for his planning around how he was going to talk about it and do a demo of the forging to really highlight it ~Peace~

@Arboreal_Fungi 24 күн бұрын

This explanation was very helpful! Thank you!

@Zedoutdoors 22 күн бұрын

Thats wonderful to hear thank you ~Peace~

@slomkaadas9603 26 күн бұрын

Oh, thank you! Finally, someone got down to the subject and did so reliably. A pleasure to watch myself, I'm eager to see more Greetings from Poland

@Zedoutdoors 24 күн бұрын

I sincerely appreciate your kind words and for watching. Nic did a lot of work on how we wanted to present this information in a way that people would understand ~Peace~

@simonbarnard1861 28 күн бұрын

Great video and very good of Nic to share his knowledge and skills. Also can see his thought and attention to detail that make his tools the ‘gold standard’ in the craft.

@Zedoutdoors 27 күн бұрын

Amen to that Simon, I was aware of the work involved when Nic made his tools, but filming this made me appreciate just how much more went into it ~Peace~

@HuseyinYalcinWoodWork 26 күн бұрын

Hi Zed. I have been following you for a long time. You make great videos with craftsmen who do their job well. The videos you shot with Nic are also outstanding. Nic is a very talented craftsman. And he's not shy about sharing his knowledge. This is very valuable. I am grateful to you and Nic for sharing this valuable information. I am a craftsman living in Turkey. I'm into wood carving and tool making. I hope to meet both you and Nic one day. Best..

@mtate02 28 күн бұрын

Thanks for another awesome upload ZedStar! 😊💛

@Zedoutdoors 27 күн бұрын

You are very kind my friend thank you! ~Peace~

@dannyhoskins8526 23 күн бұрын

Thank you Nic for sharing this information. So helpful to make sure I can keep your blades in the right condition, it's really appreciated. Thanks also to Zed for sharing this info.

@Zedoutdoors 22 күн бұрын

Sincerely appreciate your kind words and for watching Danny, thank you ~Peace~

@T3hJones 28 күн бұрын

Wow I got alot of old hinges I will check them out after this :D. Nic is a real master!

@Zedoutdoors 27 күн бұрын

Indeed yes I didn't realise that about forged hinges until filming this video ~Peace~

@btinsley785 27 күн бұрын

I've been sharpening and carving for most of my life. I learned something about sharpening hook knives today, something I had never considered before. Thank you.

@Zedoutdoors 24 күн бұрын

I've been filming these videos and carving for a few years now, yet I only learnt about this myself a couple of years back. Every day is a school day, thanks for watching my friend ~Peace~

@Erwin_AMS 12 күн бұрын

What did you learn i wonder? :)

@contextspecific 27 күн бұрын

Unexpected bonus in the video because I also want to make a strap hinge 👍🏼

@nicwestermann4206 26 күн бұрын

That's good to hear! We were unsure about putting that in, but without a bit of forging it would have been very dry.

@Zedoutdoors 24 күн бұрын

That was entirely Nic's idea as he wanted to visually illustrate the crowning affect along with his experience in forging ~Peace~

@paulsmithies7620 23 күн бұрын

Great video as always, I've made a couple of hooks myself, they work but to a point where you wonder is it cutting or scraping ? This will definitely help with the next one. Thankyou both for taking the time.

@Zedoutdoors 22 күн бұрын

Sincerely appreciate your kind words Paul and do let me know how you get on with making your next hook knife ~Peace~

@ukaszplaskowski5248 26 күн бұрын

Love the video, thanks to both of you guys!

@Zedoutdoors 24 күн бұрын

You are very kind my friend thank you ~Peace~

@marsoelflaco5722 28 күн бұрын

The UK has perfected cloning.🧒🏽🧒🏽

@Zedoutdoors 27 күн бұрын

The first one was a success ..now to 3D print an army... ~Peace~

@marsoelflaco5722 27 күн бұрын

@@Zedoutdoors 😉

@EllenZachtWerken 27 күн бұрын

Thanks for this video and all the explanations of Nic. Very interesting! 👍

@Zedoutdoors 24 күн бұрын

Thank you for your kind words Ellen, Nic is a library of knowledge when it comes to tools so i am honoured to be able to collaborate with him on these videos ~Peace~

@hankoceanlife 26 күн бұрын

I'm so glad you made this video, Well done!

@Zedoutdoors 24 күн бұрын

Thank you kindly my friend, all props to Nic for allowing me to document knowledge he's taken many years to refine ~Peace~

@shahar85 26 күн бұрын

What a delightful video❤ I enjoyd and learned so much😊

@Zedoutdoors 24 күн бұрын

That's wonderful to hear and thank you for your kind words ~Peace~

@paulkozowyk 17 күн бұрын

Always great to watch your videos, Zed. I was hoping somewhere in these two it might be mentioned what sort of edge angle is optimal for a spoon knife though! I’m guessing somewhere between 20 and 25? but I was hoping to see how Nic gets consistent and accurate edge angles on these knives… seems like that part of the process was completely skipped… of course, lots of other great info, as always, so thanks again.

@Zedoutdoors 16 күн бұрын

Hi Paul, I appreciate your kind words and for watching. Regarding the edge angle on a spoon knife, unless I am mistaken it is usually between 25-27, if Nic reads this he can hopefully clarify. Regarding how Nic gets consistent edge angles on his spoon knives, that is out of the remit of this video as this video is only focused on the theory relating to edge geometry ~Peace~

@paulkozowyk 16 күн бұрын

@@Zedoutdoors thanks!

@nicwestermann4206 15 күн бұрын

Edge angle is dependent on the steel you are using and wood you expect to be carving, it's generally going to be the same for a straight knife, but in reality you can grind a slightly shallower angle, as despite your best efforts you always get a bit of rounding in the outside, as Zed said though no specifics this was just theory , the application is up to you. Make one, test it then refine .

@paulkozowyk 15 күн бұрын

@@nicwestermann4206 great, thanks for your response! Indeed, I have been experimenting, but it is hard to measure the angles on my ready made ones because of the convexity. I find I keep gravitating to a Pfeil that has a very acute angle. I don’t have the equipment to make a lot to compare, or re grind bevels easily, so having a starting point in mind is already a big help. T

@paulkozowyk 15 күн бұрын

Supposed to finish by saying thanks again! (I sent the last message prematurely and it won’t let me edit for some reason…” cheers 🙂

@davidernst499 28 күн бұрын

Thanks once again for a great video! May I ask, are you two related? I've been thinking about this crowning problem for a while and was presuming this needed to be done, but never seen anyone explain it before. Much appreciated!

@Zedoutdoors 27 күн бұрын

Hi David, thank you for your kind words and to hear you found this video useful. Alas we are not related but turns out we look similar! ~Peace~