Angel knew it was ball four, you can see him raise 4 fingers toward the dugout. It was the batter who was confused.

Nobody reminded the umpire of anything. The umpire knew it was ball four, you can see him gesture to the dugout holding up 4 fingers.

What I love about this one is the manager coming out and yelling at his own players "Learn the rules!"

@@HealthyHearts That manager was Frank Robinson, and I wish it had been included in this clip. I can't remember another time when I've seen a manager storm out of a dugout and tearing into his players instead of arguing with the ump like everybody thought he was going to.

In my head canon, these pro ball players forgot that it takes 4 balls to invoke a walk

Sometimes they do know there are three balls but they want to make absolutely sure it has been called ball four. Sometimes if you leave early the ump gets mad and calls a strike out of spite.

@@psymar Umpires don't call strikes out of spite. You've watched one too many movies.

@@amantedelcane420 I thought The Naked Gun was an Umpire documentary, am I wrong?

@@docf3605 Good point. Umpires typically do tend to keep a Hoover on hand for messy home plate cleanups.

If the bases were loaded, then the guy coming home should have been out anyways, as the guy with the ball, touched home plate with his foot.

@@allanjensen5637 no, the batter/runner is out whether the ball is caught or not. That means no force.

@@bobwhit1544 What I meant was, because they didn't call the infield fly rule, then the runner coming home should have been out and not scored.

@@allanjensen5637 They did call it.

@@allanjensen5637 They very clearly called the infield fly. Watch the home plate ump. He points up at the ball at 2:19 calling it an infield fly then at 2:25 he calls Bonds out when the ball hits the ground. The runner wasn't in a force situation and was safe.

No, that is not what happened. We all know it's popular to bash Angel but save it for when he screws up. He called ball and the batter did not realize it was ball four.

@Alan Hess it has zero to do with calling out Angie for his calls. They're horrible. He's an awful person who uses race to hide his galactic level incompetence.

@@chawk678 Yes, we know his reputation, but for you to call him out when he did nothing wrong is rather lame.

You're correct. Once Holliday started to retreat toward first base, he was no longer protected by the "retired runner continuing to advance" clause and can be called for interference. Because he's already out, the runner out on interference would be the runner on which the play was being made, Ellsbury. The rule was changed the following year in response to this play.

MLB agreed with the call of no interference. You should learn the rules.

It was ruled not interference because it also prevented his teammate from touching the bag. Notice how after jumping over him, the batter sprints back to the bag. He never touched it cuz his idiot teammate got in the way of everyone.

Angel did nothing wrong here.

@@alanhess9306 --Do you work for the Umpire Union/Police Internal Affairs(Professional Stds) Dept.?("We investigated Ourselves, and found No wrongdoing!")😁

Would be nice to let the replay run a bit. With the Yankees play, R1 didn't know he was out so he's not out for interference. Play on. With Bonds, that's got to be the shortest RBI in the modern era. The last one, he missed 2nd base and had to go back and touch. So he was late getting to the plate. Any other questions?

On the Bonds play (Giants-Expos) the clip is missing the context. If you go here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9diqcResq-7oKs.html you can see the whole context. The batter was out due to the infield fly rule, so none of the runners had to advance. The Expos forgot that, and thought that tagging home plate prevented the runner on 3rd from scoring. The runner on 3rd forgot as well, or he wouldn't have advanced down the line, since he could be tagged out. Instead, while the Expos relaxed, he realized what was going on, and snuck around and tagged home plate. The full video is hilarious, because the Expos manager comes out to yell AT HIS OWN PLAYERS, not the umps for once.

@@Aaron42J Bond was out because of the infield fly, even if the fielder drops the ball. Moving around the bases is up to the runners. Very stupid move from the guy at 3rd. Can't believe the 3rd base coach let him run like this. 🤣

@@Aaron42J ..... Thanks. I wanted to see that at another angle and that clip did it. I was thinking about how far that runner stepped away from the plate/out of the baseline before tagging home. Not far enough to be out. Just enough to NOT draw attention to himself before tagging. Heads up thinking on the runner. But like you said he should have stayed on 3rd. But he fixed his mistake and came out ahead. The other 2 runners advanced too so they paid attention. Do you know who won that game??

@@jackgibsxxx0750 Expos won 6-4.

There's one that always does it for me: Batter hits a long fly ball and the corner outfielder -- I think it was left field -- goes full Spiderman up the wall with his glove over his head as high as he can reach. The ball lands in the grass about 20' in front of him. He even realizes at the last second and kinda throws himself in the general direction, resulting in a lovely little planking face-plant for good measure. Damndest thing I've ever seen. Like, what *exactly* was going through his head?

A video with a homework assignment.

Angel did not f**k up. He called ball four and the batter didn't realize it.

​@@alanhess9306 his strikezone is still atrocious!!

@@boybawang1981 Not disagreeing, but save your bashing for when he screws up. You will have plenty of opportunities.

@@alanhess9306 u also have to realize tho...that woulda been called a strike on a different day for Angel Hernandez!!

@@boybawang1981 Now you are being nonsensical. Try to get real.

That's the runner on first. You can't see it very well in this clip, but in the longer clip posted by MLB you can see that the runner on second actually made it back to the bag. He's obscured by the 2B here, but search KZfaq for "Mets take advantage of infield fly rule" and you'll see he's back at second base. Then I assume he breaks for third when the rundown starts. The Mets have the runner at first dead to rights for the last out of the inning, so there's no need for them to start throwing the ball all over the yard to try to get the lead runner.

I think the infield fly rule was called so Bonds was automatically out. The runner on 3rd scored amid the confusion

Several of them had nothing to do with forgetting rules. In the ball 4 clips, the players just forgot the count, not a rule.

not sure how many runners were on base but I think they need to tag perez for the out.

It's an Infield Fly which means the batter's automatically out and the runners are not forced to advance. Therefore you cannot "force" him out by touching the plate, you have to tag him.

as what ​ @baseballdude13000 said, if they would catch it the runners need to tag if they don't batters out but runners can do as they please

@@tuckerupkes1663 not quite right. Whether they caught it or not, the runners were free to stay where they were at or advance without tagging up. Therefore, there were no force outs available to the defense.

@@MikeDCWeld To clarify...if the ball is caught, the runners still have to tag up. There is no force either way and runners advance at their own risk, but they still have to tag up on a ball caught on the fly.

It’s to prevent the infielders from dropping the ball and then try to get a double play. There must be a force play at third for that to apply. There is also an intentional drop rule for line drives that requires a force play anywhere on the diamond (that is, first base is occupied). Also, Neifi Perez didn’t know the rule either. If the ball was caught, the Expos could appeal for not retouching third.

Runners are not supposed to be holding up on any base, they may run if they wish. There is no need to tag up because the ball was not caught.

"so maybe the runner started after the ball hit the ground and then got caught between the bases? " That's exactly what happened. The ball hit the ground, the runner didn't realize that the batter was already out and so he thought he was forced to run.

No, the rules error here is with you (assuming the play you're talking the one with the fielders standing around the plate). The ball was ruled an infield fly, correctly, which means the batter is out even if it drops. That removes the force.

Even the Expos manager yelled at his players for not knowing the rules.

It was an infield fly. The batter was out when the ball hit the ground which eliminates the force out.

Given that the owners are billionaires and we go to games to watch the players play, I agree.☺️

Tell us you dont understand the rule without telling us you dont understand the rule.

@@jaybeeyeet97 He understands the rule. He's saying that the rule is stupid. That you should be punished for hitting a ball in such a shitty place when you have runners on base. The infield fly is a bail out for a poorly hit ball.

ez fix: just make it to where instead of being an automatic out, the infield fly guarantees each runner advances one base if the fielder drops it. If you don't like it, make a better catch!

@@Burt1038 or better yet, simply have it remove the requirement for runners to tag up. Keep both sides honest.

@@MikeDCWeld I thought of that also, but no that would be awful to have a player get 2-3 rbi's on a friggin' pop-up lol. Scores would go through the roof...