The Toronto Maple Leafs are the legitimate perfect example of: “Hard Work beats Talent, when Talent doesn’t Work Hard.” Just on the wrong side of things.

Its like a Rubik's cube. One side is looking really good then you turn it around and see the rest of the sides are all ef'd up.

Sid nailed it during his rant. The core group are not mature enough yet to make it to the next level. They'd rather play shinny with Justin Bieber.

Sid nailed the coffin on this one. kids would rather have an extended summer break.

I wish someone loved me as much as Sid loves that God forsaken soundboard.

crosby and nylander making the same a year. That hit me hard. Crazy.

Babcock said it for years. This team doesn't show the grit and fight in the alleys. Darcy tucker was 170lbs. soaking wet. Yet he would hit and scrap. Doug Gilmour the same thing.

When Pierre Maguire says you're the worst defense he's seen well, I guess that should tell you something is wrong with your team.

Can we please talk about another Canadian team besides the leafs?

You know where the leafs went wrong. When they signed John Tavares. I’ve said it they minute they signed him it was unnecessary. They did need John Tavares and the leafs sure could use that 11 mill right now to really upgrade this team. The leafs had more than enough forwards to get the job done before Tavares and guess what the leafs made the playoffs before they signed Tavares..

I feel like the conversation of leafs salaries is hard to listen to, because in the off-season that's what you talk about. When it comes to the season, you shouldn't give a damn who's making what, you have to come together as a group and want to win. For example, Tanev on Pittsburgh got a 6 year 3.5mil ish per year contract in the summer. Pens fans went crazy because he wasn't good and he won't put up points. But this year, he has been one of the hardest working guys on the team and has been playing great. A big reason why the pens are winning. So when I look at the pens team, I see some guys who are underpaid, and some guys who are overpaid, but every single player on the team has bought into the system and is willing to put in the work in order to have success. With the leafs team, I dont see any player who is willing to sacrifice themselves for the better of the team. And when you put these two teams against each other in crunch time, you'll get a result like last night.

Them getting paid before doing anything is the biggest problem in Toronto.

This video comes up everytime the leafs lose 2 in a row

Your right sid.....and they are no where tough enough,when is the last time they even threw a body check...this team is basically all skill and no drill

They want a long summer to spend their MONEY

Hahahaha Sid has a problem with Keefe calling out the team?! I guess he doesn't listen to his own content!

Toronto Maple leafs are just uncoachable. Period.

Way to go Kappy, a goal, a fight...great game...Well done guys, a good team game, strong 3rd...nice job Freddy...we all knew you were better team...consistency, consistency...keep at it, all good moving forward...eye on the prize...onto the playoffs again, unlike you know who, lolllllllll...GO LEAFS GO

Andersen not lookin good at all right now, might need to sit him for a while...

I rarely agree with Sid but I have to one this one...they don't want it

Whats the excuse now toronto? I hear water boy is getting fired next

it's Dubas's fault. they keep blaming the players; but they're just playing according to their nature. Dubas --- you can't play hockey on a calculator. He doesn't really understand the game; picking up Clifford is a good move, but too late.

I love sids rants

As individuals, they have talent. As a team, they're still a work in progress.

The best part about these struggles they are having though is now everybody can realize Michael Hutchinson wasn't the sole reason they were playing bad.

"Stats are like Katy Perry, they show a lot, they don't show everything" Tim, that line is gold. GOLD!

Sid is so correct!!! I agree with his rant 1000%!!!! He nailed it in all points!!

If someone told you at the beginning of the season, with 21 games remaining that the Blue Jackets would have more points than Toronto, would you have believed them? LOL

I needed to hear this from you guys.

I love when Sid goes nuts on a team, especially the Leafs 😂😂 But He’s right

This is all about character, effort, and competitiveness.

Tim and Sid you guy,s tell it the exact way it is '''NO BULLSHIT''. GOOD JOB GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's go pens will see you on Thursday Toronto I'm sure that you guys will be much better at home

Why is everyone so surprised with this bad stretch? The leafs’ #1 Dman is out and they’re forced to rely on an already weak Dcore. It’ll take some adjustments and some pretty big speed bumps before we get this truck rolling again

There is no excuse for how bad the Leafs have been defensively because of 3 words. THE WINNIPEG JETS At the beginning of the season, everyone was writing off the Jets due to the losses on defense. No one could blame them when they lose Trouba, Myers, Chiarot and Buff. No one would argue that the Leafs had a better D core than the Jets to start the season. To start the season, The Jets defense consisted of: Anthony Bitetto, Tucker Poolman, Neal Pionk, Dmitry Kulikov, Ville Heinola, Josh Morrissey and Carl Dahlstrom. Then something happened, By Dec. 10, the Jets were 19-10-2 with a D core that consisted of: Anthony Bitetto,Tucker Poolman, Neal Pionk, Luca Sbisa, Josh Morrissey and Nathan Beaulieu. Why did the Jets start winning? 2 reasons: 1) Hellebuyck got back to his Vezina form. Anderson has been playing great too, so those cancel each other out. 2) The Jets forwards bought into Maurice's defensive scheme. The top lines are helping out the D. Even Laine is back checking! You take away their injuries and they are giving Colorado a run for 3rd or better. This is where the Leafs lack. Either Babcock or Keefe didn't/aren't instilling a defensive scheme to help the D, or the top forwards don't want to buy into that system. They look like they are playing shinny out there most nights instead of playing responsible hockey. The 2019 - 2020 Winnipeg Jets are a tested example that a defensively lacking team can still be competitive IF EVERYONE BUYS IN!!!

respect to marner for explaining exactly what is happening tho

how do you trade for CHARACTER + HEART + WILL + PASSION ?

How do we make the players want it? Do you learn grit or teach grit? Hell, i think the fans want it more then the team? Am i wrong? I dont think its age totally. Im not hitting the panic button until after the game tonight(rematch). Depends how the leafs reacted to the A** kicking.

Tim - “when the leafs lose its the real team - when they win it’s just a fluke “

So Sid has a problem with the fact Sheldon came out and told the press exactly what the problem was with the team last night instead of bullshitting his way out of it? Keefe did a non shouting version of Torts with his honesty about his team's problems, he's not wrong.

3 days after your show, the Leafs got beat by the Zamboni driver in goal for the Canes in front of their fans. Good luck with your plan to fix this team. BTW, Babcock is vindicated.

Yes buy in to the system! Take a look at the raptors young leafs

You need gritty 3rd and 4th line players, shutdown defensive players, a borderline great goaltender to steal a game, win at all costs star players, and then you MIGHT win a cup. Its a good thing the hall of fame is in Toronto, at least the maple laff fans can see what a Stanley cup looks like.

anybody have a good link where Katy Perry actually does show everything? i'm curious now.

What is the incentive to win? They all get paid either way win or lose. I said it last year, these kids will be kicked out of the playoffs or the playoff race and will spend the summer at a million dollar cottage enjoying life. Us Leaf fans will wait another year for a team we believe in. We were one or two players away from going deep into the playoffs but Dubas came in and blew this team up. I was shocked.

I dont wonna sound like I am complaining but the Leafs arent tough enough and things need to be done fast but Barrie I did like him at first when Keefe came now Barrie is started to hit the roof for me hes mot showing any effort now but hes good at scoring at least but still we need a big defenceman that can do it all stop shots and hit lots and not those little hits we need a defenceman kinda like Muzzin maybe even probably better than can hit hard we need someone that can really get this team feeling confident and I am not saying Tavares and Keefe dont do that but we need a defenceman that can just get this team feeling really confidant and not feeling nervous about there own side and I do believe that what you guys are saying is very right what you are saying the ishues are the problem. The defence is nowheres where Sheldon Keefe wants it to be and Kyle for all we know could be fired just because this new player they got played with Matthews.. Really that's siriusly a joke Keefe is probably shaking his head right thinking what was Kyle and Shanahan thinking? Another forward and I am a huge leafs fan and I dont think it's a good idea for the Leafs to go to the playoffs this year unless somehow theres miracle on the way where the leafs go to the finals and win the cup which that wont happen this year and that's not a bad thing if they dont go to the playoffs this year because maybe next year this team is gonna look a whole lot different next and I mean alot different

Sit these over paid clowns for 1-3 games each, and embarrass them in the media by calling them quitters. Maybe they’ll get the message

10 min thank you Sid! They dont want it like that.

These kids are young and we’re seeing the “ pain” that Babs mentioned when he was first hired..................... it takes time to mold talent,............ be nice if it was overnight,....... the Leafs have a lot to learn and pain to live with!.................... welcome to the NHL!!!!!

Steve Simmons is rifling through his file folder of boiler plate "fire the GM, fire the President, trade this guy..and that guy" articles he's been writing for 35 years as if it's ever worked.

I’d like a team with Muzzin’s attitude. I agree with Keefe’s tone and language. Hit them between the eyes, nothing else seems to be working. This was a well delivered segment by Tim & Sid

I need to hear a guarantee from the medical staff in the Leafs organization to say that they are all healthy and not suffering from the flu at all before I will condemn them right now. I had that flu and felt like I could barely get out of bed, never mind trying to skate.

Is the eggos back in season again in toronto ?

Tim doesn't receive enough recognition for some of his takes. He was spot on this time.

You can't solve the puzzle when the GM eats the pieces.

Sid hit it on the head. They don't compete when it gets hard. Their highest paid players don't play a 200 foot game and float far too often. There's no competitive fire on this team and no interest in working hard in the defensive zone to keep the puck out of the net. Not sure how they fix it with all the contracts they are locked into.

You could have the exact same convo about the Sharks over the last decade

LOL who would've thought that the best display of comedic timing would come from Burkie. OMG, actually made me gut laugh out loud at my desk.

Pens announcers said the individual efforts were there but the team concept isn’t there for them and at 60 games in thats not looking good.

Ok sis said they aren’t making the playoffs - can’t wait until they make it

I don’t think it’s just one thing, it’s not just the players or the coaches, or the management, the whole thing is a mess and we can point fingers at whatever we want but there isn’t one way to fix it.

Really great watching this in 2024.

Great, another Leafs feature. I love watching "Tim & Sid & Leafs"

Sid is 100% correct

Still haven't figured it out.

we're basically the guinea pig of hockey theory for the entire league. this either works or no one builds a lightweight skilled speed team with no defence for the next 20 years.

The Toronto stores and shopping is priority number one for these kids I swear

when your"super star" player doesn't elevate the play of your team then he is really a superstar player?

Malkin has more Points Per Game than any other active player versus the Leafs and he didn't even play. Leafs still got smoked!

After last nights game leafs fans are watching raptors play only

It’s a talented roster that is slightly underperforming in a really difficult conference. Idk why Dubas gets so much criticism; he’s done well.

He doesn't seem like he's handling the pressure right now very well. This could be the 18 wheeler right off the cliff again

As i said it when Keefe took over, the Leafs are officially a NHL farm team. Leafs have off ice chemistry problems and on ice chemistry problems. Andersen isn't himself never was as great as Tampa and Bostons goalies. Defence has always been a problem, JT isn't was he was when with the NYI's. Nobody hits, the power play is suffering. Marner is great but he's 6' 175 lbs, Matthews is playing well, well . . . Babcock was right, he knew what had to be done to make the Leafs win. Basic fundamentals needed to be established and we are now seeing it first hand. The Leafs have been on a down slide and i think they will miss the playoffs. I hope i'm wrong ! Keefe puts out JT Matthews Marner 30 million on the ice and they can't get it done. Leafs have a problem from top to bottom. This team isn't what the media made it out to be. The huge contracts destroyed the chemistry, it's a team sport. Grinders win games and the Leafs have overpaid superstars. Trades need to made in the off season because the Leafs do not have a contender. NHL is a contact sport and fans pay good money to see the big hits and yes the fights. Go Leafs Go !

They got paid before they played. Sidney Crosby has heart and 3 cups and Alex Ovechkin probably has 2 hearts and 50 goals every season. Thats the problem

When your overpaid captain and other overpaid assistant captain don’t say jacks**t during these tough stretches. I’m pretty sure you have a big problem. No balls or grit those two.

I hope that the Toronto Mapple Leafs go far.

I'm not sure if they eventually get there because I'm not watching the second half but; after 10 minutes of a video titled "Trying to solve the Puzzle that is the Toronto Maple Leafs" they haven't even attempted to diagnose a problem or present a solution.. there were lots of sound effects and pointless posturing but NO hockey analysis. The Leafs aren't a puzzle they are more like a pop-up book; very easy to read. The Leafs problem is that they were constructed with a significant flaw that is now impossible to fix. They spent all of their money on offense and play a style of hockey that results in them giving up the 7th most shots against per game. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that if you give up a lot of shots and have a lack of talent of defense your are going to give up far too many goals to ever produce consistent results in the regular season or post season regardless of how many 40 goal scorers you have. The Tavares money should have been spent on two significant pieces for two significant pieces on the back end.

The Leafs just look lazy and uninspired. No confidence

Maybe throw them a couple of million dollars more to entice them to play " at a higher level". I mean it isn't like they are the highest paid in the league. Who could be expected to put out a 60 minute effort for a measly 7 to 13 million dollars.

Recently watched the Wendel Clarke fight against Mcsorely. The Leafs still haven’t figured out you need grit and toughness to win. It’s very simple. Look at the Cup winners over the last 10 years. They all have one thing in common.

Can't see paying John Tavares the money he is getting payed, gives up the puck almost every time you but pressure on him,minus 30 for career.

This was three days before the David Ayres' game. Foreshadowing...

I think they get scored on first. They get down 1 or 2 goals and they say screw it its over. Weak defence is deflating the forwards. They either play defence together as a team and grind and get mad and tough or there done. Period. Ps SID. The reason Sheldon keefe is talking like that is because its already proven its not the coach so he can say what he wants and there will be no consequence. Sheldon is right. Babcock was making me nervous but he wasnt wrong in the way he wanted the team to play. Play hard and responcible. Thats it.

You are so right Sid

Toronto maple laffs have always been an overrated, overhyped, team.

I think Crosby having a 4 point night had something to do with it.

I don’t want to hear any Toronto sports fan mention the raptors and leafs in the same breath. One team wants all the smoke and rings in the room and the other is waiting for summer. Smh

I agree with sid 1000% . These kids wayyyy overpaid . You know who wins games ? Whoever wants it more . They are like spoiled children. Trade 1 or 2 children for men that want it more !

If the Leafs don't get in the playoffs like Sid said...It would be a total disaster!!! But it would also be a severe wakeup & turn out to be a, somewhat,a blessing. That way they learn to play defense & stop hanging their goalie out to dry! I've been a Leafs fan since before the Harold Ballard days...I think this is the best (& worst) possibility of happening!

The Capitals also won the Presidents trophy every year.

Matty is 10th in the league in points and Mitch is 16th. Anyone that thinks these guys should do better, should look at the other guys on the team instead. Yes, I think they have another level, and yes I sure wish they would elevate their games further.

50 fans at Sun Rise!!!! That took me out.

The Leafs have been embarrassed by Florida in all of their match-ups this season, and they simply can not afford to lose to them next Thursday. I believe their playoff hopes are already slim-to-none, but a loss against the Panthers on Thursday will definitely put the final nail in the coffin. This Leafs team is not capable of playing the consistently solid hockey it would take to charge up the standings and re-claim a playoff spot if they once again fail to show up against a team like Florida that is already edging them out in a race for the postseason.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are like the Chicago Blackhawks when they had Stan Mikita. That team had a lot of talent but would not play as a team and as a result won only 1 Stanley cup.

It's simple, the best players on this team are teenagers. I'm 23 and just starting to prefer living with a serious mindset and take care of my work, take care of myself care about anything else than getting wasted and try to be acknowledged by strangers in nightclubs, and I don't have 11 million to spend on that. These guys will only start to care in 5 years minimum. Crosby and Toews are the greatest of this generation because they started to take this seriously when they were young.

Just look at how much the number one line on the planet makes compared to the leafs number one line. It is about those playing for themselves and those playing for each other.

Both of these guys are goofballs.

Trouble on my mind I got trouble on my mind

Yet again these long contracts are dumb. If they were one years contracts players would work harder.

they could lose a high end player in order to acquire a stanley cup goalie, and keep andersen as backup, he has played periods of stanley cup goal, but not consistent enough for the full time job, In My Opinion!