Springfield Armory Prodigy. I hope they made plenty!

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X-RING

X-RING

Жыл бұрын

Full review of the Commander Springfield Armory 4.25” in 9mm.

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@MrDmthomp32
@MrDmthomp32 Жыл бұрын
Great review and great shooting. I have cleaned my extensively through the first 300 rounds and it seems to be running great. I just hope it continues cause I love this pistol.
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dmthomp and thanks for watching the channel.
@cwatson42785
@cwatson42785 Жыл бұрын
Damn that's some good shooting! And what a beautiful gun. Really like it. Those 100-300 yard shoots were really impressive! 😱
@LooxJJ
@LooxJJ Жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to my CZ-SP01 out of the box. Jammed the slide 3 times at a range at 50~ish rounds mark. Broke in, oiled, cleaned. After that, works flawlessly ever since.
@defiantmopar
@defiantmopar Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your simple and honest review. I'm willing to bet that the failure to feed issues were from a lack of proper lube. Usually whatever oil the firearm has on it is simply meant to protect it during storage, not to be run with.
@WvMnts
@WvMnts Жыл бұрын
Thank You great content. Very few channels I can watch with my toddler bc of language. Much appreciated.
@SitNSpinRecords
@SitNSpinRecords Жыл бұрын
First time seeing your videos. Long time Springfield fan. What a great and honest review!
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks Siris and thanks for watching.
@joaquin-jacknava2696
@joaquin-jacknava2696 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Ray. Big thanks to Wayne for lending you the pistol. I must say a big Thanks to your wife for a great job she did on the camera work. Have a great week sir.
@conservativesniperhunter7439
@conservativesniperhunter7439 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved 1911/2011 Commander pistols , who dosen’t love em ? Nice review X-Ring , great camera work Mrs X-Ring 😀.
@AustinCProductions
@AustinCProductions Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to thank you, your family, and friends for producing such great content. you have inspired me to really get into shooting, and I just purchased my first ever bolt action rifle, and I love it. I'm going to start to train for shooting competitions, this winter, and into the spring. Thank you again, and I look forward to your next video.
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate it Austin! Congratulations on the new bolt gun. Please let me know how things progress and thank you for watching the channel! 👍🏼
@AustinCProductions
@AustinCProductions Жыл бұрын
@@XRING thank you, and I absolutely will. I’m looking at picking up a leupold Scope this winter when I upgrade to a larger caliber. Thank you again for all your hard work, and dedication.
@kamiazhong1369
@kamiazhong1369 Жыл бұрын
@@XRING How can I contact you? Collab
@soonerfrac4611
@soonerfrac4611 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they might make a 10mm version eventually?
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
@@kamiazhong1369 email me at thexringchannel@gmail.com
@hesa3656
@hesa3656 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir! I shot a 2011 for the first time this summer. They are good. I noticed the nice barrel crown on this Springfield Armory 2011. Mrs. X captured the video wonderfully! 👍🇺🇸 #22aday
@richardadkins3602
@richardadkins3602 Жыл бұрын
Yes staccato mags the 20 rounders work in both guns.havent had any problems outta mine I've put 750 fmj's through. People need ta understand this is a production gun staccato is hand fitted and polished to run flawlessly.
@alandonaly457
@alandonaly457 Жыл бұрын
You said the magic words, and I subscribed, that you were still using a phone. I try to subscribe to any gun-tuber I see making content pretty much on their own dime. Need to get you up in the subs so you can do more gun reviews. It's really tight, your wife does a really good job. Keep it up and I'll be watching you
@edvela3865
@edvela3865 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the prodigy I knew I just had to see the X-Ring review! Thanks!
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ed.
@talkingrock7011
@talkingrock7011 Жыл бұрын
You always get what you pay for I am sure some run better than others after all it’s memed parts inside , other reviews have had similar issues , thanks Ray
@ronhunt9396
@ronhunt9396 Жыл бұрын
Looks sweet. I have a 2011 C9mm that is my favorite of my pistols. Went through 3 magazines at my permanent range this morning . I also have a portable range too. Good shooting. I'm impressed with the pistol and your shooting
@dannykfoster8176
@dannykfoster8176 Жыл бұрын
Great video Ray. Pretty nice hearing that ding at 300 yrds.
@timrink256
@timrink256 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Good luck at the upcoming matches. Be Safe
@badbilly429
@badbilly429 Жыл бұрын
The first honest review i have seen of this pistol
@bpri9880
@bpri9880 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and review! Subbed
@bngbraz2
@bngbraz2 4 ай бұрын
Keep oil in your bag. Mine hasn’t failed yet. But it’s greasy. Then strip and clean. Great shooter! Best in my collection.
@boltactoinbarney
@boltactoinbarney Жыл бұрын
Brand new 250ish rounds with no oil. Ill take it. Oil it up and run it. Give er a swab and do it again. Thanks for the review X. Now I need to buy another pistol.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 Жыл бұрын
I got to shoot one of these, iron sights, at practice this evening. I normally shoot optics. I ran the Prodigy for 2 runs through the plate rack at 15 yds. Even though I had to tilt my head back to see the front sight through my readers, I shot it accurately. It runs very smoothly, the trigger felt nice to me (I don't own 2011 or 1911 pistols), the recoil impulse is very soft -- I could tell that if I owned one I could get it to run fast, and better shooters could make it very speedy. I'm tempted to get one but I'm eager to see how the first run plays out among the current user pool. The guy who brought the pistol to our practice today, he brought it straight from the store. Several others shot it before me. The owner was using his own reloads on brass used many times already, and a few rounds bound up a bit upon entering battery. You could see the ring left on the brass, suggesting it was a bit bulged where it bound up in the chamber mouth.
@TheHonarable1
@TheHonarable1 Жыл бұрын
Great pistol and even better shooting!!!
@charlesward7584
@charlesward7584 Жыл бұрын
During the video you had mentioned being able to see daylight between the optic plate and the slide. I had the same problem after mounting my red dot. Double check the red dot mounting screws (not the optic plate screws) to see if they are too long. The threads in the plate are shallow and if the screws are too long it pushes the plate up away from the slide as you tighten them up. All I did was mount the red dot to the plate first to see how much the screws protruded past the plate. I then trimmed them as needed to be flush with the bottom and reassembled everything.
@Onelowluv
@Onelowluv Жыл бұрын
We see this on the Glock MOS system all the time as well
@gunsandsteak2874
@gunsandsteak2874 Жыл бұрын
Love watching all your videos keep it up Boss ❤
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thank you guns and steak I really appreciate it
@Levon0083
@Levon0083 Жыл бұрын
My favorite gun channel
@TheChaz81
@TheChaz81 3 ай бұрын
The hang up on the slide not going into battery is likely from the cekacote finish. At the price point it'd be nice if they ran flawlessly out of the box but it's not the case. Oil oil the slide rails rack the slide 1000 * clean and it'll run.
@es5587
@es5587 Жыл бұрын
Nice rapid & accurate shooting
@bluedragonab
@bluedragonab 11 ай бұрын
Great shots OG
@denniswerner1670
@denniswerner1670 Жыл бұрын
Love my 4.25” prodigy.
@LL-be3rh
@LL-be3rh Жыл бұрын
Some great shooting Ray !!
@tonybowers9490
@tonybowers9490 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Well done.
@sanmiguel2197
@sanmiguel2197 Жыл бұрын
Oh damn! Nice! Thanks for sharing!
@chrisfisher3900
@chrisfisher3900 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to get ahold of one
@johnpeterson7264
@johnpeterson7264 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful !
@InSightFreedom
@InSightFreedom Жыл бұрын
Looks like quite the bargain. Great video Ray.
@FatGuyWithGuns
@FatGuyWithGuns Жыл бұрын
Great review Bro. I did a review on a 5” model and it ran great.
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
I wish this one was a 5” model.
@1975riggs
@1975riggs Жыл бұрын
yessssss!!! i also hope they made plenty of them!!!
@JC-cv3up
@JC-cv3up Жыл бұрын
I have a 5” prodigy and it ran great. I cleaned and oiled it and changed out the recoil spring to a 12# spring. Shot 350 rounds with only 1 FTE. I’m happy with it.
@2005bjpatton
@2005bjpatton Жыл бұрын
What weight spring comes in it?
@JC-cv3up
@JC-cv3up Жыл бұрын
@@2005bjpatton people have said they called Springfield and they said in the 5” they put a 9# recoil spring.
@2005bjpatton
@2005bjpatton Жыл бұрын
@@JC-cv3up damn that’s light
@michaell397
@michaell397 Жыл бұрын
@@2005bjpatton A 9# will help level the gun,(keep it from dipping when the slide comes back into battery), after recoil after a shot, however it appears to be too light as the guns are not broken in when received. Spending a little time breaking in the gun and or lapping the slide to frame fit will go a long way.. ;
@Cobbshobbies
@Cobbshobbies Жыл бұрын
I was with ya right up to the rock island comment. I have a pro tac that has eat anything I’ve fed it right out of the box and a 4.25 prodigy that is the most temperamental gun I’ve owned. I hope it becomes a little more reliable with a couple hundred more rounds.
@OldSK0olNinja
@OldSK0olNinja Жыл бұрын
The screws for your optic are a little too long. That's the daylight issue on the plate. I had the same issue with a venom viper. Just filed the screws down about a 1/4 inch and now fits perfectly. No light showing through at all. The screws that mount the optic to the plate are pushing up on the slide because There going to far down lifting up the plate. Hope that helps!
@Kraals
@Kraals Жыл бұрын
If you want one of these, good luck. I've had an SA-35 on order for a year now. I asked SA when they might be available in quantity, that was late last year. The response was 2nd quarter this year. Crickets.
@sauryvalerio4894
@sauryvalerio4894 10 ай бұрын
Great shooting bud
@Kimchi_Studios
@Kimchi_Studios Жыл бұрын
Looks awesome
@mikelangelo2020
@mikelangelo2020 Жыл бұрын
Subbed after the 200 yard shot
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of Springfield's 1911's I own at least one of the vast majority of their offerings new and old so when I heard they were finally doing a 2011 I had to order one. It's nothing to drop $2500 to $6k+ on a 2011 so for them to bring one to market at this price is kind of crazy... I've already heard of some people having problems but one thing I've learned already owning a few 2011's is they can be a little finicky but I have really high hopes for this one!!!
@920WASHBURN
@920WASHBURN Жыл бұрын
Is this metal or polymer?
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 Жыл бұрын
@@920WASHBURN the grip is polymer the frame and slide is steel...
@920WASHBURN
@920WASHBURN Жыл бұрын
@@DanielBoone337 ok that's what I thought. There's nothing like the sound of a slide on a metal gun. Porn for the ears
@matthewvolpe7515
@matthewvolpe7515 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Despite a few hang-ups, the content was positive and candid. I would like to know which G Code holster you’re running though….Many thanks!
@williamryan9195
@williamryan9195 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the weapon without a flashlight strapped to it or optics.
@Stoney_AKA_James
@Stoney_AKA_James Жыл бұрын
I can see that pistol being a viable duty gun. Personally I would like to see SA come out with a 45ACP version of it!
@John-uo1qf
@John-uo1qf Жыл бұрын
Best intro ever! 😂😂😂
@tylerfecho4454
@tylerfecho4454 Жыл бұрын
Kinda feel like we're the testing phase for Springfield and in 6 months we'll have a functional pistol.
@kebotrans
@kebotrans Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@driftitlikeyouownit
@driftitlikeyouownit Жыл бұрын
It is a functioning pistol alot of 1911s need tuning and this 2011 stay 1911 is one you need to tune and break in. Especially the 5 inch
@frogchaser
@frogchaser Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see some more DS 1911's on the market. People just don't realize how nice they are to shoot until you try one. It's unfortunate about the malfunctions. Hopefully Springfield isn't using the buyers to beta test their new offering. My Staccato P has been malfunction free since day one and I usually go thru 300-500 rounds in a range visit. I do clean it more than my other pistols.
@2ndamendment115
@2ndamendment115 Жыл бұрын
I took my DS out today and ran 400 rounds with not 1 issue .
@frogchaser
@frogchaser Жыл бұрын
@@2ndamendment115 as it should be
@jcsabolt2
@jcsabolt2 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see someone do a complete tear down on this pistol. I’m glad that SA came out with a 2011 even though they called it a 1911DS. I’d also like to see 1,000 rounds ripped through this gun. I don’t expect them to get everything perfect right out of the gate as this seems to be the norm now for most new guns, but in 6 months the batches being produced should be pretty good and I’m sure the after market parts suppliers will be chomping at the bit to replace any inferior parts.
@joshpuh2010
@joshpuh2010 Жыл бұрын
10-8 performance did a teardown.
@chriscovington11
@chriscovington11 Жыл бұрын
Only staccato can use the 2011 name people refer to them as 2011 but legally speaking they are all ds1911's
@denniswerner1670
@denniswerner1670 Жыл бұрын
Very typical for a brand new 1911/2011 to need a break in period. I’ve seen that exact failure to go into battery on new Wilson combats and Dan Wessons. After 500 or so rounds the moving parts start to polish together and slide even smoother. In my experience Springfields are always tight, which I like because either through manual polishing or use the parts will be polished and fit together, overtime creating almost a handful it gun.
@bigDICKplayer..
@bigDICKplayer.. Жыл бұрын
the intro shooting👌
@robertjackson1407
@robertjackson1407 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@swivel63
@swivel63 4 ай бұрын
the glass of the fast fire 4 fell out after about 700 rounds. went to the a14b plate and put a 508t. then the rear sight fell out after about 300 rounds. the dot was good, tho. might just go without a rear sight since it's already dialed in pretty well.
@BigJohnsonGG
@BigJohnsonGG Жыл бұрын
Hope you are doing well Brother! Carry On
@tallyman15
@tallyman15 Жыл бұрын
Nice shooting.
@OFCbigduke613
@OFCbigduke613 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review and you are a hell of a shooter. I recommend you try to break the habit of looking down at your holster when you holster up. As an LE instructor I always told my students to always keep your eyes up in case a new threat presents while you holster. Train like you fight. Thank you and be safe.
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
I always did the same back in the day. I also mentioned it in the following video. I caught a lot of comments saying that it was not a good idea! 🤷‍♂️
@chriswinsett
@chriswinsett Жыл бұрын
Big X on the camera! 👏
@k1ngdomdefense404
@k1ngdomdefense404 Жыл бұрын
Great Review. Just Subbed.
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks K1ngdom! I appreciate it.
@edwardh1591
@edwardh1591 Жыл бұрын
I had a 5” that never worked out of the box. It had to be sent back to Springfield Armory. I have a Dawson Precision 2011 9 mm major pistol. I sold the prodigy because I had so many problems with it.
@nataliedeyton6829
@nataliedeyton6829 Жыл бұрын
Seem one at hickory gun show yesterday and they wanted 2000 bucks 😳 but I do know a person who has one and it’s crapped the bed already. I do like the gun tho it just needs to run first
@DavidV4444
@DavidV4444 Жыл бұрын
I am a 1911 man and have quite a few - 1911’s made properly always run perfectly. I ordered the prodigy and cancelled based on so many failures. I will stick with Wilson’s version of 2011, my EDC X9 and may revisit this or Staccato later. Great overview!
@denniswerner1670
@denniswerner1670 Жыл бұрын
I just received my prodigy last week. Several hundred rounds so far with zero malfunction. Excellent shooter.
@mikehill4776
@mikehill4776 10 ай бұрын
I don't remember the guys name but he did a video on the prodigy and what he concluded was that the Cerakote is the problem and he sat down in his chair and oiled the slide and frame and cycled the gun 250 or 300 times cleaned and then kept repeating that for 2500 to 3000 cycles and now it's his everyday carry I think he even used simple green at some point. It only took him one day. Now the gun is flawless. I'll try to find the video. Here is the video of the guy that manually cycled and cleaned the Prodigy with all of his comments. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7GipsaCqLnNc4U.html
@tonsofgunsoffun8516
@tonsofgunsoffun8516 Жыл бұрын
I almost bought one last week but starting to hear of issues with feeding and the optic plates I want for my DPP isn’t readily available so I’ll wait until early next year if think
@jasestrong
@jasestrong Жыл бұрын
The old 1911 in the army we had to qualify with in MP school had to be beat into battery like that, almost every shot, lol .
@darthonly5664
@darthonly5664 Жыл бұрын
It looks worth the price. I'll see when it available at my local broker.
@-kepha8828
@-kepha8828 Жыл бұрын
It looks worth the price? It gave him issues 50% of the time lol
@bamahi7142
@bamahi7142 Жыл бұрын
I hope they FIX all the issues first. Too many gun channels highlighting many of the same issues. Beta testing with customers similar to Sig.
@billtshudy3653
@billtshudy3653 Жыл бұрын
Well done Sir. Enjoyed watching your review of this pistol. Wondering if you have shot the Bul SAS II and which you think is better?
@MinhVu-in9iz
@MinhVu-in9iz Жыл бұрын
I say the Bul SAS II is better, more reliable out of the box!!
@blacblac2294
@blacblac2294 Жыл бұрын
ill wait to see if they update it and for the price to drop down a couple of hundred dollars. Its going to be a tough wait because even with all the hiccups its been having, I have hope.
@larrymarsico4059
@larrymarsico4059 Жыл бұрын
I can not even wait to get a 4.25" in my hand's!!!
@jeremycollins3408
@jeremycollins3408 Жыл бұрын
Good luck on all those matches coming up can't wait to see how you do
@TTiger86268
@TTiger86268 Жыл бұрын
Own a few springfields including a ronin, like them and really like what I've been seeing from the prodigy. Heard it's almost as nice as a staccato. May have to add one to the collection.
@assaultgoat3054
@assaultgoat3054 Жыл бұрын
My Prodigy failed after the second shot. The slide was shaving metal on the slide stop. Already returned it back to Springfield under warranty.
@David-rc8hp
@David-rc8hp Жыл бұрын
No doubt looks cool an I would love to save up an get one but I ll wait my 6 months to a year rule to get The kinks worked out
@NCTACO
@NCTACO Жыл бұрын
We’re you able to use the hood for the fastfire on this prodigy
@never2be07
@never2be07 Жыл бұрын
Is it me or are the recoil springs on these super light?Maybe that's the reason you started getting all those FTFs after it picked up some dirt.
@2Aknight762
@2Aknight762 Жыл бұрын
The 4.25 models are running better than the 5 inch models. The 5 inchers have too light a recoil spring. My 4.25 inch had a 200 round break in period. They do need to be well lubed and cleaned.
@shannond1044
@shannond1044 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review! Ive been looking at purchasing a ds9 hybrid from mpa untill this SA released. So i decided to wait and watch the reviews on the performance vs price of the SA. After watching i think i will stick with mpa even tho they are about another 1500 more... what are your thoughts?
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Hey Shannon. In full disclosure, I am on the MPA pistol team and shoot a DS9 in competition. 👍🏼
@waterhead1359
@waterhead1359 Жыл бұрын
Wish you would've reviewed the 5 inch , most reviews weren't good and had problems. Very impressive shooting
@driftitlikeyouownit
@driftitlikeyouownit Жыл бұрын
12# spring, replace or polish extractor and oil liberally. The5 inch will run springfield just made mistakes.
@Onelowluv
@Onelowluv Жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing the gun, I feel pretty confident that it will run well with a few minor tweaks .
@alfredocuomo1546
@alfredocuomo1546 Жыл бұрын
Cleaning isn't an issue for me, I like to inspect the gun after use anyway & cleaning is a great way to monitor your investment.
@kentb5159
@kentb5159 Жыл бұрын
Dang, you can shoot!!
@richardshippful
@richardshippful Жыл бұрын
The chambers are tight on some of the barrels
@thefrogking481
@thefrogking481 Жыл бұрын
For the price difference between this and my Staccato C2.....well I could've had a Ferrari of a pistol. The grand difference will get you a performance trigger, replace the MIM parts and possibly get an Aluminum Grip module. If I'd known these were coming out I would've waited.
@angelcapote1218
@angelcapote1218 Жыл бұрын
Badass shooter with a Badass gun. Very nice brother.
@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator
@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator Жыл бұрын
I was Saving for a Staccato Duo but Springfield just saved me almost $2k I'm getting the same one shown in this video very soon.
@thatoneguy.-
@thatoneguy.- Жыл бұрын
Rock Island make one for $800 and it already comes decked out with parts for Limited Class.
@RickheadWashington
@RickheadWashington Жыл бұрын
Picked mine up for $1274. But I live in washington and the online dealer pulled out the mags so when it got to my gunshop it had no mags. No springfields fault but still bullshit. Luckily my dealer had mags. The gun itself feels good though. I'm planning to do a trigger, get rid of the mim parts, and I want to do v8 ports, some dlc coating. It's a very nice base for a 2011 build. Yes I know it's not a 2011. But I don't care
@dr.stevenpennym.d.3241
@dr.stevenpennym.d.3241 Жыл бұрын
If it’s made by HS Produkt in Croatia, it’s a winner. HS makes the best pistols in the world along with CZ.
@jesselopez1922
@jesselopez1922 5 ай бұрын
Why, didn't the slide lock back on the empty mag? That's important for someone that is going to carry this as an EDC.
@effu9375
@effu9375 Жыл бұрын
The YT algorithm deleted my subscription...double check🤙🏽🙏🏽
@jg7319
@jg7319 4 ай бұрын
Out of the box with no oil. Not bad.
@amunratrans1982
@amunratrans1982 Жыл бұрын
I never had or wanted a 1911 because of lack of capacity. Now that this is our I was going to get it. Then I watched probably about 60 videos on it and they are having too many issues for me and the price. I am down to the STACCATO or ATLAS style 1911s
@geologik7500
@geologik7500 Жыл бұрын
Rock Island makes a widebody 1911 for half the cost of this and mine runs everything from cheap aluminum case to 150gr syntech powder puffs.
@amunratrans1982
@amunratrans1982 Жыл бұрын
@@geologik7500 I will look into those as well
@Kaiser-sj8hn
@Kaiser-sj8hn Жыл бұрын
I figured that but when you google it the dates are for 2023. I live close by look forward to meet you and good luck
@XRING
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kaiser! Only a few weeks away.
@pooperscooper8791
@pooperscooper8791 Жыл бұрын
I want this 1911
@buncha5651
@buncha5651 Жыл бұрын
I thought that's a pleasant change a Prodigy that functions. Unlike most other reviews shown. But it only took time to start having problems. I wouldn't touch one, Springfield obviously didn't do any reaserch and development on this pistol.
@driftitlikeyouownit
@driftitlikeyouownit Жыл бұрын
That's absolutely not true.... Even when the first 2011's came out sti had problems out the box. Even the 2011 ran in the John wick movie was tuned to properly run. All 1911's have a break in period and tune period some are break in then tune and others are tune then break in. Thuis is not an instant gratification like others this is a 1911in a new generation and price point....learn the difference also if you don't tune your gun or understand what can help or hurt then mabey you need to stick with a glock.
@emeryemond7904
@emeryemond7904 Жыл бұрын
@@driftitlikeyouownit yes it is, bwtween ny shooting buddy and I we own 5 STIs and Staccatos, they all easily run 1000 rds between cleaning, and the 3 Staccatos were 100% out of the box. The prodigys are OK, but YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR !!!
@brianedgett2134
@brianedgett2134 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine tried to run a 5 inch one in a 3 gun Saturday morning. It choked on the first stage.
@AllanG1914
@AllanG1914 Жыл бұрын
MBX and Atlas mags do work.
@musicalcompanion5890
@musicalcompanion5890 Жыл бұрын
its like 1499 msrp for a double stack vs 799 for the ronin. The Emisarry is like 1349. if just have to have it in double stack or are john wick SA make more affordable options imo.
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