Springfield Hellion, The Croatian VHS-2 Bullpup Sensation is here
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Күн бұрынThe Springfield Hellion is finally here, after many years the famed Croatian Bullpup the VHS-2 has arrived. The question is how did Springfield do? Is the Hellion an excellent rifle? Does it perform as it should? How does it stack up against other Bullpup rifles?
00:00 Springfield Hellion
3:13 Just enjoying nature intro
4:45 Springfield Hellion / VHS-2 already a proven combat weapon
6:04 Springfield Hellion has some odd design choices - BUTTSTOCK
7:10 Springfield Hellion Optic Height is great
7:48 Springfield Hellion reload
10:38 Springfield Hellion Trigger
13:00 Springfield Hellion Handguard
14:13 Springfield Hellion Barrel
15:50 Springfield Hellion Iron Sights
16:10 Springfield Hellion Overall thoughts
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@GarandThumb 2 жыл бұрын
My bad on the Balkans mistake! Hope you enjoy this video on the VHS-2
@bluebadger83 2 жыл бұрын
The length of pull must be for the giraffe boiiiss
@LosRiji 2 жыл бұрын
You're being forgiven
@seanjones3529 2 жыл бұрын
When you covering the SA80, so you can confirm why we hate it 😂
@fivedotfivesix59 2 жыл бұрын
Why not review the X95Tavor ?
@jeremyb2343 2 жыл бұрын
At least it wasn’t a review on the movie VHS-2…… Always looking forward to Sundays for your content.
@DRTYProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the first Toy Story on the VHS-1. Crazy how far technology has taken it.
@zack9912000 2 жыл бұрын
this made be laugh
@4rnnr_as 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao!!
@JerradZonna 2 жыл бұрын
Does VHS-2 support 4k?
@ommsterlitz1805 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, but seriously It's a copy of the Famas Félin only the Frame around it is a changed to be and look more modern so Ian from Forgotten Weapon is quite happy to see this thing. It was copied on it as the Croats wanted to gain the French contract for replacement weapon of the FAMAS as France previous leaders took the decision to destroy the manufacturing facilities of assault weapons in France because they feared workers from the factories would give weapons to a French revolt.
@Excalibur01 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody remember the HD-DVDs?
@rjg02005 2 жыл бұрын
If you've ever purposely NOT rewound a VHS tape before returning it to blockbuster, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
@TCarstens1 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, you're obviously not kind.
@Ducati121 2 жыл бұрын
You're a monster
@Steelcity77 2 жыл бұрын
I was definitely that dude🤨
@GIboy1990 2 жыл бұрын
I purposely left the tape on the sex scene.
@Jachammer93 2 жыл бұрын
LITMUS TEST: FAILED
@OldManMemes 8 ай бұрын
4000 rounds down range with my Hellion. Zero issues or malfunctions. 16in barrel on a platform shorter than an M4? Yes please. Thing's a laser beam.
@DTreatz 5 ай бұрын
Helps that it looks like the BR from Halo 👀 What optic do you have on it.
@phillipcraddock8248 2 ай бұрын
WHAT RED DOT ARE YOU RUNNING,I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO PUT ON THE ONE THAT I HAVE
@hurricane8634 13 күн бұрын
@@phillipcraddock8248 holosun 510c
@user-xy4md9md2u 2 жыл бұрын
I love the design of this rifle. Its like a mix of the Battle Rifle from Halo, the FAMAS, and the StA-52 rifle from Killzone all rolled into one.
@peterchristensen2528 Жыл бұрын
😄😄😄
@mynick937 Жыл бұрын
Famas,Tavor,G36 and AK-47 had an orgy.
@dParakeet Жыл бұрын
The flatline from Apex Legends
@josedorsaith5261 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing pics of the Iraqi special forces using them during the ISIS uprisings
@SawBlood45 Жыл бұрын
i'm still waiting for the M82 from killzone to come to life
@deanfirnatine7814 2 жыл бұрын
I had a K9 partner, a German Shepherd from Croatia, we nicknamed the Croatian Sensation, rest in peace buddy, you were the best boy.
@Pimps-R-us 2 жыл бұрын
No you did not !
@Grabbagar670 2 жыл бұрын
The goodest boi
@HokiePitcher22 2 жыл бұрын
Damn good dawg
@TheBashar327 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dylan-nv9sc , the Croat Goat croaked.
@joemuffin3894 2 жыл бұрын
Rest easy goodest boi
@wyattmason3902 2 жыл бұрын
The most important part about reloading the vhs is making sure to rewind the mag before you take it out
@bryces28 Жыл бұрын
They make a stand alone high speed winder to put on your shelf for that, just pop it in there when you’re done.
@TheChriscrowder Жыл бұрын
Be Kind Please Rewind
@homevalueglass3809 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@toddchair4155 Жыл бұрын
@@TheChriscrowder this hit nostalgia like no tomorrow.
@erikcrouch7881 Жыл бұрын
@@TheChriscrowder To Play is Human, To Rewind is Divine
@ZeroFreetime 2 жыл бұрын
Im Croatian and it's a honour that Garand Thumb used a gun from my homeland.
@ArgoPower 7 ай бұрын
da , stvarno zanimljivo
@MrYrgas 4 ай бұрын
That gun is sexy as Fuck❤
@StealthyStrides 2 жыл бұрын
As a Croatian, its nice to finally not be forgotten
@arnaudsurribas2963 Жыл бұрын
I was pissed that our government choosed the hk146 instead of this beautifull rifle... A pride heir of the Famas that was an aging, but formidable weapon. You guys made an awesome and reliable bullpup platform with many upgrades, from the the trully ambidextrous design, to the ability to move the stock and so on ! I guess franco-german policies and nato standarts took the lead in the final decision, hélas.
@oldpain7625 Жыл бұрын
As an American, you haven't been forgotten by me. Split, Croatia is one of my dream destinations. A whole city built in and around Roman Emperor Diocletian's palace. Looks stunningly beautiful. A Croatian-American friend of mine told me when traveling along the Adriatic coast, ever city along the way just gets better and better. I will visit before my life is over!
@StealthyStrides Жыл бұрын
@@oldpain7625 honestly, I am actually a Canadian-Croatian who was born in Canada. But I'd also love to get to explore my family's homeland more, specifically Dalmatia.
@bioworld6328 Жыл бұрын
@@oldpain7625 Dont forget Rovinj when there!
@mynick937 Жыл бұрын
@@oldpain7625 My advice is pick 3 places along the coast and from each one rent a car and explore. Don't forget the islands. Hvar,Korčula....over 1000 to pick out,but most of them aren't inhabited.
@SnackPack913 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what people who just randomly find this channel think when stepping neck deep into the grand thumb lore without a primer lol
@VosperCDN 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard there's therapy available for the worst cases.
@unsweetenedsweetener 2 жыл бұрын
It was pretty fun
@jeffjohnson2273 2 жыл бұрын
That was me a few years back, I was in the market to buy an M1 Garand and was just looking for info.
@brandonrupp5880 2 жыл бұрын
I can see how it might be startling
@jeffjohnson2273 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonrupp5880 yeah, but it got me out of FUDD territory.
@iinRez Жыл бұрын
"Took it apart, put it back together all a sudden it was fixed" Every month of my IT guy life.
@daniellau5859 Жыл бұрын
Theres a ghost in every machine. Sometimes it just needs to be released
@Statusinator Жыл бұрын
@@daniellau5859 Praise the Omnissiah!
@johngartin3118 5 ай бұрын
As a network engineer I support this message 😂
@edim108 Ай бұрын
I'm a mechanic and I've felt that in my bones... Sometimes the only reason stuff is acting up is bc the machine spirit is a bit cranky and all it takes is "doing the ritual" and it works flawlessly again.
@iinRez Ай бұрын
@@edim108 A little stretch before the magic smoke goes back in the box.
@blackwolf7487 Жыл бұрын
I have only words of praise for this rifle. From the first day I bought it until now (about 2000 rounds fired) no problems. Comfortable, ergonomic and reliable, just perfect. The best choice I made.
@ghosty5478 Жыл бұрын
i want one but it is so expensive, quality isn't cheap.
@politicallyinsensitive4200 2 жыл бұрын
I used to own a VHS. That technology died when DVDs came out though.
@SaraphDarklaw 2 жыл бұрын
Better video quality, takes up less space and most importantly, no need to rewind!
@ssww3 2 жыл бұрын
Me too but I still got the tapes
@Ghost-hs6qq 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@nicksanjay3902 2 жыл бұрын
class dad joke
@joeknipp5052 2 жыл бұрын
Shit I still use my vhs
@karlo6784 2 жыл бұрын
VHS stands for Višenamjenska Hrvatska Strojnica (Multipurpose Croatian Machinegun) for anyone wondering.
@RTS907 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I had no clue!
@lincolnpascual 2 жыл бұрын
And hear I thought it was a direct competitor to the Betamax series k family of rifles, chambered in 5.45.
@Lavthefox 2 жыл бұрын
@@lincolnpascual And here I was thinking I was ahead of the times by investing in the disposable time sensitive DVD based firearms tech...
@alexbarcovsky4319 2 жыл бұрын
Going to a vacation to Croatia this year, totally unrelated but your country is badass.
@xxxod 2 жыл бұрын
@@lincolnpascual where's the Blu-Ray 2?
@Reagansolum13 2 жыл бұрын
*mp3->mp4->mp5* everyone: “well that escalated quickly” VHS: “hold my beer.”
@alexkaiser1684 Жыл бұрын
Just picked up the VHS-2. Put on a viridian green m-lok laser handstop, followed by a magpul fore-grip. It's like it was MADE for that design! Very comfortable ergonomically. Solid rifle! Very pleased.
@longiusaescius2537 8 ай бұрын
@alexkaiser1684 thanks for the suggestions!
@MegaHelloThar 2 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to fire an VHS-2 in Croatia while doing some cross training with NATO forces. Was pretty sweet. When asking the soldier who was teaching me about the rifle how it handled full auto (a dream btw), he said “It is so smooth, you can gun down the runners easy.” Keeping the vague war crime vibe strong, brother.
@finglipa2001 2 жыл бұрын
@UCM5-XiOOUqayDsMnWHPj5nw i saw a bot for that same video yesterday. Its not even that the 5 seconds of it i saw were bad, its looked like it had decent production value... but them using bots makes them come off as desperate for attention they wont get
@TurtleStranger 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@lardomcfarty9866 2 жыл бұрын
War crimes are based
@osiris4457 2 жыл бұрын
Not a war crime if you had fun doing it.
@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 2 жыл бұрын
@@osiris4457 and you’ve gotta get caught
@KyleJohnsonVA 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still convinced that the haphazardly slapped on AR grip by Springfield is what messed up the ergonomics for the safety. The original grip looks like it would have positioned your hand slightly further back, giving a more natural position to flip the safety from. A custom made aftermarket grip could potentially fix this, and maybe even restore some of the visual design of the original too.
@burneracc2567 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, handled one with stock grip (it does put your hand a bit more back), was more comfortable than what it looks like here.
@Mrcuddlesworth_ 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because of Import laws. Rifles need to be made with a certain amount of US made parts.
@ratagris21 2 жыл бұрын
Since many want to magpul everything sometimes that messes up things. That seems to be a trend like does it take Glock mags concept.
@Dylan-nv9sc 2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head. Sad part is the safety is very intuitive for switching between safe, automatic, and back to safe. I don’t think with just semi and safe it’ll be as intuitive as an AR but with the right grip (i’ll experiment with a K2 XL and some tape on mine first) it’d still be pretty good.
@scottydavis1813 2 жыл бұрын
@@ratagris21 the grip is a BCM Gunfighter series. I think it is ok
@platzhirschtv4770 2 жыл бұрын
Iam doing my part by comenting. The Intros of you guys are allways so awesome. Of course like the rest of the show.
@stevenclark7409 Жыл бұрын
I own one of the domestically rehomed ones and I really like it a lot. A bit big next to my RDB and Tavor but so user friendly. The adjustable stock helps me get my melon down low enough to use the iron sights. Normal-headed people may not have that issue but I appreciate SA taking my enormous melon into account.
@Spaceman404. 2 жыл бұрын
When a FAMAS and a G36 love each other very much...
@ommsterlitz1805 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, but seriously It's a copy of the Famas Félin only the Frame around it is a changed to be and look more modern so Ian from Forgotten Weapon is quite happy to see this thing. It was copied on it as the Croats wanted to gain the French contract for replacement weapon of the FAMAS as France previous leaders took the decision to destroy the manufacturing facilities of assault weapons in France because they feared workers from the factories would give weapons to a French revolt.
@chato555 2 жыл бұрын
@@ommsterlitz1805 This gun have similarities with FAMAS like - none. Copy pasting same nonsense so far as I see.
@ommsterlitz1805 2 жыл бұрын
@@chato555 It was made based on a FAMAS to replace it dummy just the looks of it scream it's a copy of the FAMAS.
@chato555 2 жыл бұрын
@@ommsterlitz1805 Nope..wrong. Can't argue with folks like you. Fact. You know why and if don't than I feel pitty.
@ommsterlitz1805 2 жыл бұрын
@@chato555 There is a big difference between what you want to be true what is true my friend.
@Khan.WrathOf 2 жыл бұрын
If you've ever been anywhere around the Balkans, that length of pull makes sense. I remember thinking I was above average height (6'1) then stepping off the plane in Serbia and immediately feeling like a child. They grow em tall out there.
@RavenWolffe77 2 жыл бұрын
Balkan bois have massive Master Chief vibes. Fuckin 6'8 behemoths.
@1ofthelastrockers 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I'm 5'7", remind me never to get in a fight at the balkans
@EntryLevelLuxury 2 жыл бұрын
I hear that - I'd definitely never want to fight against serbs in a ground war. Every time I go over there I feel the same.
@stipe_ramo 2 жыл бұрын
Feels like everyone is 6'3" or taller here.
@Parabellum-oe3sw 2 жыл бұрын
I'm barely 6 feet tall but with apparently long arms because if I extend my AR15 stock to the maximum it barely fits with a little bit of play 😭
@JB-fs1cn 2 жыл бұрын
Saw first 10 seconds, instantly gave thumb up. OMFG that intro of immortal STARSHIP TROOPERS :D Amazing format, thank you :D
@camronsavell 2 жыл бұрын
OMFG I loved this intro! Why yes, I would like to know more. Keep up the great work!
@TeraQuad 2 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to the Roughnecks." "Garand Thumbs Roughnecks!" "The enemy cannot push the dislike button if you disable his hand." - Garand Thumb
@hondomclean6759 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to push the dislike button, the knife is causing so much pain.
@Ryknfjor 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what GTR stood for
@wesleygetsinger1859 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bretc1012 2 жыл бұрын
Literally, made me laugh. 😂
@FunkiestChickenlawl 2 жыл бұрын
Great Starship Troopers reference at the beginning! the gun definitely gives off the vibes of being from that series.
@jimyeats 2 жыл бұрын
I would consider that more than a reference.
@Kladyos 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: the actual guns in that film were mini-14s in an aftermarket bullpup chassis
@zehsackett6132 2 жыл бұрын
Does that mean you have to empty 4 clips at full auto to kill one enemy?
@thatguy4305 Жыл бұрын
@@zehsackett6132 empty 4 "clips" with a mini-14... jesus. they use mags, not stripper clips. and it's 5,56 × 45 mm. i'd like to see you take 3 "clips" of 5.56 out of a Mini-14. Tell me how that goes for you buddy.
@ReptileRaptureRR Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review, saw this bull pup at my local shop, this is exactly what I needed.
@longiusaescius2537 8 ай бұрын
@ReptileRaptureRR did you try it yet?
@adamnkonklus1179 2 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video and great review. The intro was the best.
@darthcerebus 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised there wasn't a Killzone-style opening since it basically used the Hellion for their Helghast rifle for the most part. I'm also loving the hybrid on the top, very nice choice.
@GarandThumb 2 жыл бұрын
We went back and forth before making this
@GraphixHurricane 2 жыл бұрын
@@GarandThumb I remember you posted the quote from the killzone 1 Intro I was so ready for that
@halo34251 2 жыл бұрын
@Darth Cerebus I know what you mean, also don't forget ISA bullpup M4(M82)
@hoppinggnomethe4154 2 жыл бұрын
YES finally someone who knows Killzone the "Muh Halo Killer"
@lincolnpascual 2 жыл бұрын
@@halo34251 that ISA rifle looked more like the bastard love child of an AR and the British bullpup (I forget the name, because I only speak 2× World War champs and Made It To The Moon First).
@dasauto7346 2 жыл бұрын
This man just called the Balkans "the Baltics" *Everyone in both regions screeches*
@bojanpolojac7439 2 жыл бұрын
Reeeeeeeeeeee Love ya flannel daddy.
@alanjiang9057 2 жыл бұрын
2Balkan4me
@thekraken1173 2 жыл бұрын
This would become a meme if reddit didn’t banned 2balkan4you
@thekraken1173 2 жыл бұрын
@savk0n1 They ip banned a lot of active accounts too. For example my account.
@chokac1 2 жыл бұрын
Neces, razbojnice!
@hhhrvoye Жыл бұрын
Our WHS is a solid rifle, I've used it and it takes time to get used to after using an AK-47. There are no bad weapons, but there are bad shooters. Even policemen in America carry the Croatian HS 2000 (you call that pistol the springfield HD)
@lennybrewster4673 Жыл бұрын
It's the XD over here (Xtreme Duty). Springfield isn't the greatest at naming lol.
@kevindownes9474 Жыл бұрын
@@lennybrewster4673 Hellion sounds corny too lol
@derbigpr500 6 ай бұрын
@@kevindownes9474 It should just be sold with the original name. Honestly HS is losing marketing to Springfield. Some people might think it's a Springfield product and they built their name on it, despite only selling it and literally having nothing to do with development or production. Imagine a HK or Glock being sold as Springfield...not gonna happen.
@thijshagenbeek6554 Жыл бұрын
No matter what kind of weapon you design. Wether its ergonomics are great, or wether you can put a tonne of stuff on it. When your average infantry say its a reliable and accurate weapon system that they enjoy having over annything else. Thats a masterclass of a weapon, right there.
@rafaelalodio5116 2 жыл бұрын
The cool thing bout this gun is that you can also watch vintage movies with it.
@garrettmccullough2249 2 жыл бұрын
Just slam that VHS tape of The Little Mermaid in the mag well and you have yourself 83 minutes of quailty entertainment.
@abramwarner5119 2 жыл бұрын
Trigger reset failure is what we call a “Certified Springfield Moment”
@LIONTAMER3D 2 жыл бұрын
he said the trigger was shit right away lol
@melissasmess2773 Жыл бұрын
But Springfield doesn't make it🤷🏻♀️
@Chaos31 Жыл бұрын
This is the first rifle I've held that fits perfectly with my fused arm length of pull.
@therealjoshtodd Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Starship Troopers paradoy! Been watching your channel for a while but I have SO many subs, I didn't want to add another one. This video put me over the edge and I had to sub
@ljbled7037 2 жыл бұрын
Performance aside, it’s hands down the most futuristic-looking aesthetically pleasing bullpup made so far
@KiidAtlas 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the Aug in my personal opinion
@lucastonoli3256 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiidAtlas The AUG looks retrofuturistic. This is straight-up the future, well, maybe the future 10 years ago.
@Malfunctioning 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's right there with the MDRx.
@crabmansteve6844 2 жыл бұрын
VHS-2 and the MDRx are the sexiest BPs in existence.
@truearcanerythrives1559 2 жыл бұрын
F2000 is better
@zacharyrollick6169 2 жыл бұрын
I just don't get why Springfield feels the need to rename things that already had perfectly good names. The HS2000 didn't need a name change and this didn't either.
@skepticalbadger 2 жыл бұрын
HS is the company that designed it, so calling it the Springfield HS2000 would make no sense. Edit - doesn't apply to the VHS - I didn't realize.
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 2 жыл бұрын
@@skepticalbadger I actually think those names would be fine. Gives homage to the original designer and manufacturer. Plenty of guns in history have mixed names like that (generally money man/manufacturer and then whoever designed the gun).
@MRsolidcolor 2 жыл бұрын
rebranding. its what happens when a company wants to try to boot sales
@DrakesdenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@skepticalbadger VHS means Multipurpose Croatian Machinegun, nothing to do with HSProdukt.
@Chris09978 2 жыл бұрын
They did it for the importation to the US
@22leggedsasquatch Жыл бұрын
I tried it yesterday. It felt great in the hand.. 16" barrel in that short package, reliable, accurate. The manual of arms can definitely be trained and the trigger was much better than i expected; certainly acceptable but of course, nothing compared to the Geisele.. obviously (it's a bullpup with a totally different Purpose Of Use). It's A LOT of gun (battle proven) for the money. As a bodyguard, it makes a ton of sense for me. Would also pair great with the Kahles 3G 1-8 which was designed for CQB. My only wish would be a .300 blackout conversion.
@justchillin654 Жыл бұрын
Damn, as hard as I've tried to resist. You earned another subscriber. It would be dishonorable not to after that intro.
@chairmanofthebored6860 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the gun is cool and all, but can we talk more about how well Starship Troopers holds up? I saw it at 11 with my dad in theaters and it's been a top 10 ever since
@blahyoubleep 2 жыл бұрын
Nice me too. That was my first rated R movie in theaters.
@poolee77 2 жыл бұрын
It really does. Such a good movie
@DJGuppy321 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it's a fucking stupid movie but also amazing.
@wayne_404 2 жыл бұрын
The book is much better in my opinion, but the movies(all of them) is so bad and so good at the same time I love them.
@Sin526 2 жыл бұрын
Tfw when your attempt at portraying an over-the-top fascistic society in a negative light throughout a film inadvertently and unavoidably shows a world that objectively functions much better than our modern "liberal democracies". 🤣
@calebburrichter8452 2 жыл бұрын
I love that Springfield, the fudd staple company is bringing in more “tactical” weapons.
@GarandThumb 2 жыл бұрын
I do agree with you there!
@Heywoodthepeckerwood 2 жыл бұрын
I’d take my XDm elite osp over my FN 509 tac. Any day of the week. It’s actually a much better shooting gun and much better thought out ergonomically.
@vicdiaz5180 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair they made a bunch of M1A’s very tacticool aside from the old Fudd wooden stock
@TheOneWayDown 2 жыл бұрын
I had some 40something divorcee who does dirty RP call my St Victor AR a "peasant AR" on Reddit lmao
@LIONTAMER3D 2 жыл бұрын
m14's & 1911's are NOT fudd. garands are FAF tho =/
@TheJackHood Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Garand Thumb, for a reference to the single best film every made!
@Jason_BD Жыл бұрын
Without a doubt the greatest intro to a KZfaq video that has ever been made.
@mikect500 2 жыл бұрын
"Starship Troopers" is one of the best military scifi books ever written. The movie didn't do it justice. Heinlein's other great book is "Citizen of the galaxy".
@taskforcealto 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the movie sucked compared to the book.
@BusyBadger 2 жыл бұрын
I've told so many people that mention the movie to read the book. They're not even in the same league. Always kept a copy with me in my ruck to read or pass around since it's small in size and a quick read. And to this day, it's one of my standard gifts to new enlistment of friends & family.
@JavierChiappa 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Buenos Aires and i liked the book but the movie too, it was fun, man.
@beowulfsrevenge4369 2 жыл бұрын
The movie was entertaining. But its based on the book in name only. It's a fantastic book and I'd recommend it to anyone.
@ag4832 2 жыл бұрын
It's also one of the best political science book, honestly.
@M4nw1thnoname9 2 жыл бұрын
Croatia has come a long way since having the Thompson being thier most well known asset.
@andreivaldez2929 2 жыл бұрын
A man of culture I see.
@Morgoth-mq6bf 2 жыл бұрын
We are waiting for Marko Perkovic VHS
@MatkoAB 2 жыл бұрын
VHS-91 MP Limited edition
@gordanbalenovic8562 2 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever
@twentytwo138 Жыл бұрын
Or as some Croats like to call it, Tonson
@pops55650 2 жыл бұрын
That intro was awesome! You nailed the cheesiness of the recruitment video on Starship Troopers lol
@ogion539 2 жыл бұрын
I love the intros of these videos where GarandThumb has that flashy showcase of the firearm. So sick.
@patrickbateman3146 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Helghast rifle from Killzone. Helghan did nothing wrong.
@spaceisalie5451 2 жыл бұрын
thank you. Happy im not the only one thats said this
@colonelradec5422 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO. But that rifle had a helical bullpup magazine.
@ryanhayes8482 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught that
@patrickbateman3146 2 жыл бұрын
@@colonelradec5422 I know. Just reminded me. Nostalgia. They should remake Killzone, but this time we should be able to play as the good guys.
@hyperionowl1848 2 жыл бұрын
Have to return any of these?
@Jrob992 2 жыл бұрын
Erm, idk what you guys keep calling a “VHS” but that is very clearly the STA-52 Helghast standard infantry rifle. Used by our enemies in the extrasolar wars of the early 23 century.
@LionLeo. 2 жыл бұрын
You brought back some good memories with this one. Loved the series
@zim3900 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, that's the entire reason I want one of these, it seeming to be a decent rifle is just a bonus.
@ThePaintballer1994 2 жыл бұрын
“DEATH TO THE ISA”
@Joshua_N-A 2 жыл бұрын
The war, whose fault was it?
@daBluechimp Жыл бұрын
Coming back to this video to say I am Proud owner of a Springfield Hellion as my First Rifle, this was the video that sold me on it even after the critical judgments about the trigger (which are acurate) Thank you for the great content!
@14energy Жыл бұрын
How do you like it so far?
@daBluechimp Жыл бұрын
@14energy It's incredible, the length of pull takes getting used to cause with the stock at its shortest its already 3in longer than an ar But it's so easy to get a sight picture and hit dead on, I've never been so fast and accurate with a rifle
@14energy Жыл бұрын
@@daBluechimp good to hear that
@JazzForYourSoul Жыл бұрын
His review and the praise it got from Karl from InRange TV kinda ended up making me finally pull the trigger on getting one of my own, and its genuinely such a fun rifle to use.
@longiusaescius2537 8 ай бұрын
@daBluechimp nice profile picture! Did you draw it?
@artsohc Ай бұрын
It’s June 2024 and this is still the hardest hitting intro GT has had to one of his videos. I come back to it every once in a while just to marvel at it. Kudos Micah.
@allanoutdoors5645 2 жыл бұрын
BEST INTRO EVER ...the enemy can not push the button if you disable it's hand!
@kfcinafrica2111 2 жыл бұрын
MEDIC!!
@WeAreHere-42 2 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@AsianWithHat 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Mike and Micah only have 1 take per every sunset for each firearm they review is phenomenal, props to both you guys!
@JazzForYourSoul Жыл бұрын
Recently bought a hellion, and for someone with long arms, it's really pretty comfortable. I'm running it with an epsilon 556 muzzle device, and despite having a respectable amount of muzzle blast and is essentially acting as a loudencer, it makes it so that it has next to no recoil or muzzle climb for a 5.56. The trigger is definitely a bullpup trigger, but overall pretty good. The best part about it though is just how good it looks. It's such a great looking design imo, though I'll admit I have a definite bullpup bias.
@threebanger 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact. The extended LOP is so brass clears your cheek if you need to quickly fire offhand, not for arm length.
@CleveryBoy 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the safety and the grip is thanks to Springfield, that for some dumb reason decided that they couldn't have a non-AR grip in "their" "new" gun so they threw the original grip away (probably to fill their changes quota to be able import it) messing with the whole ergonomics of the gun.
@prototype3a 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is they designed it for an AR grip with the "beaver tail" instead of a grip like the Magpul MOE-K which does not have the beaver tail.
@foughtwolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@prototype3a Im curious if it was a design choice or if it was simply a loophole to get it imported, since it would have come in without a pistol grip at all.
@prototype3a 2 жыл бұрын
@@foughtwolf I suspect it was partially for 922r and also partially because SA is dumb.
@009013M3 2 жыл бұрын
That "dumb reason" is because you can't import a weapon like this with a protruding pistol grip due to the import ban, because it doesn't pass the "sporting purpose" test with the grip attached.
@Mercskowski 2 жыл бұрын
If you're the person that constantly refreshes KZfaq, waiting for Garand Thumb's newest video to go live, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
@LosRiji 2 жыл бұрын
Sooo true
@reggiemcbusiness1603 2 жыл бұрын
No
@user-kl8kp2ih5d Жыл бұрын
I bought one of these after owning several AR platform guns. I have been impressed with the overall reliability and build quality after about 2000 rounds. It is an unconventional layout but, man is it compact and fun to shoot. The trigger is just as he describes and a bit of warning...if you are planning on using it on the same range day as your AR, shoot the AR first or take a minute to recalibrate your trigger finger because your Timney 2.5 lb pull might surprise you.
@Wache3 2 жыл бұрын
Bolt release is actually very well made, but most people don't know how to operate it. When you pushing full mag into the rifle, hold it with palm but not thumb. thumb is to push bolt release.
@WhuDhat 2 жыл бұрын
loved the starship troopers intro, the effects in that movie still blow my mind considering when it came out
@lilkim5789 2 жыл бұрын
Croatians are in general taller/bigger people so we have a lot longer limbs. M57 TT pistol has a longer grip than any other, just for the sake of comfort
@monabale8263 2 жыл бұрын
my hobbit lop is 12" so, a letter opener has me.
@tedhodge4830 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 5 foot 6, with "manlet" hands, and I have an M57 with a Croatia stamping. The M57 is made by Zastava, based out of Serbia, and the grip fits me perfectly fine. The grip on the original TT-33 was simply too short, and the M57 mags can carry an extra round due to the increased length. Using the M57 grip length as evidence of Croatian height seems a pretty ridiculous example, especially considering the M57 has a surprisingly slender grip compared to most modern, double-stacked handguns, with a standard length grip for a full size handgun.
@overlord165 Жыл бұрын
@@tedhodge4830 It's not so ridiculous considering the fact that Drinarics are the tallest people in the world. What is pretty ridiculous is the comparison made with a pistol of commie design (initially Soviet but made in Yugo)
@bobtherocker4598 Жыл бұрын
The Starship Troopers intro was awesome! You got a 👍 from me before the actual review started 🤘
@dafawdfgDG 10 ай бұрын
This fucking intro goes so hard always appreciate Mr. Thumb's creativity and references.
@L1LegoAnimations 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when everyone was complaining about the CZ Scorpion EVO's safety? HB Industries made an AK-style safety (their name for it, not mine) that was essentially a front-facing lever kinda like the Five-seveN. When it's on safe, the lever is down by the trigger so you'll know it's on safe right away. On fire, it's out of the way and points forward. That safety would be almost perfect for this rifle.
@fromthistexasbreath 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: when you load a drum mag into a VHS-2, it becomes a DVD-2.
@It-b-Blair 2 жыл бұрын
😜💀
@Shin_Lona 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a laserdisc configuration?... Asking for a friend.
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shin_Lona attaching a PEQ for movie night.
@thomasjoyce7910 2 жыл бұрын
Put a bigger spring in your drum mag. It'll have fewer rounds but also fewer failures. In other words, downloading is more reliable...
@lucaskobain 2 жыл бұрын
Why was it renamed Hellion, Mike wonders? well, because of this :D
@Disl3cic 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get over the pinch bolt release and Trigger pull on the vhs. I have played with the x95, keltec, and Aug and still prefer the x95. Personal experience only. Good video!
@wilet.3088 2 жыл бұрын
That intro brings so much good memories haha, awesome !
@SaintsRow1177 2 жыл бұрын
I love the starship troopers opening, I’m amazed. Literally one of my favorite movies. Glad to see people still repping it.
@kevinleonard8770 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they would update the series and make another one. Love that movie." You wanna live forever" lol 🤣
@elestromusicgamesfun1101 2 жыл бұрын
"When you think of the Baltic's, do you think of war-crimes" - Me sitting in Sweden wondering if I've missed something or if Garand Thumb refers to something we did in the 1700's? 😂
@GarandThumb 2 жыл бұрын
Pinned comment! Misspoke
@crazychicken7125 2 жыл бұрын
no, not you not the swedes just the Russian revenge against the German civilian population in "44 and "45 (and also a couple years postwar)
@elestromusicgamesfun1101 2 жыл бұрын
@@GarandThumb - No worries! We just couldn't let you get away with it before having some fun now could we? 😄 Thx for great content!
@aceofhearts573 2 жыл бұрын
The intro was really good. My parents took me to watch the movie as a kid when it came out... I was 5 years old
@paymanalimi8201 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I think they had in mind when did make the weapon between H&K and IWI , Design problems 1. Shorter stock 2. Better design in a bolt Release 3. 3 1/2 pound pull trigger 4. 1/4 trigger Reset 5. Better position for selector switch 6. Better Design to be able mount light and Laser 7. Bigger magwell 8. Left or right ejection 9. Mud , water, ice , sand torture test. 10. UCT Coating.
@worldeater1498 2 жыл бұрын
Croatians and Serbians, especially ones from the Dinaric alps, are some of the tallest people in the world. I’m 6’7 and whenever I visit Serbia I feel average. So that longer stock makes perfect sense if the gun is being used by Croatians. And yes as Balkans, war crimes is all we know and all we do
@Morgoth-mq6bf 2 жыл бұрын
War crimes and name checks out. Greetings from Son of Sanguinus
@comradesam3382 2 жыл бұрын
War crimes is just our way of trolling eachother
@newworldorder6764 2 жыл бұрын
@@comradesam3382 It isnt if you lose a lot of your family members due to warcrimes
@ethanobenauer7083 2 жыл бұрын
@@comradesam3382 Remember, it’s not a war crime if there’s no one to report it.
@Oscar-fi1ev 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanobenauer7083 … or if they don’t find the bodies.
@icu_corey_rn_903 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that this channel has become a meme while being extremely serious and information is amazing.
@yorecf9641 2 жыл бұрын
Come for the memes, stay for the knowledge.
@forrestgumball 2 жыл бұрын
It used to be serious for like the first 10 videos lol
@yorecf9641 2 жыл бұрын
@@forrestgumball I ‘member those days.
@ExCordeEnt Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I took the time to watch this. I was considering purchasing this gun. I own 2 hand guns and a shotgun but havent owned a rifle before. Ive shot a few but not a ton. I love the looks of it but it is a bit pricey and I just want a good solid performer.
@ethanjohnson8671 2 жыл бұрын
Why I recommend this channel to new-comers: -Guns -Innuendos -Somehow keeping a baseline explanation of the gun -More guns -Ballistic gel dummies (Goes splat) -Nerdy details -Even more guns
@Grandmaster-Kush 2 жыл бұрын
Great food, great beaches, great alcohol and great guns, thats why Croatia has been my holiday go to for years now!
@nicholasskific4795 2 жыл бұрын
Odlično
@Sin526 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot great people! 👍
@TheJazzyjake1234 2 жыл бұрын
How are the women there
@Grandmaster-Kush 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJazzyjake1234 If you're in the touristy coastplaces like Split, then get ready to see young tanned beauties with beachbod as far as the eye can see my friend.
@mariuspretorius7913 2 жыл бұрын
Before you go google it a bit, things like croatian handshake
@craigsteinkamp12 2 жыл бұрын
‘Tell me what’s the difference between a Civilian and a Citizen?’ “A civilian watches the video. A citizen likes and subscribes.”
@TylerLL2112 Жыл бұрын
As configured, this thing looks super nice. I have the stock Tavor SAR as my bullpup. It doesn't give the same *PP* as this does.
@Travis_Trauma Жыл бұрын
Sweet Starship Troopers intro! 😄
@Clogmonger 2 жыл бұрын
I remember looking this gun up when I unlocked it in Ghost Recon Breakpoint- like “why they gotta make up fake guns?” Boy I was pleasantly surprised. Wish I could own one. So cool.
@PhilAlm92 2 жыл бұрын
Favourite weapon in Breakpoint, really cool aesthetics. Very close to the helghast rifles in Killzone
@WalrusWinking Жыл бұрын
It's in Far Cry 5 too
@Zincmentomint Жыл бұрын
@@WalrusWinkinginsurgency sandstorm as well
@dirrrtydawg9772 Жыл бұрын
You can't own one? Why not?
@Clogmonger Жыл бұрын
@@dirrrtydawg9772 because I have a tyrannical government that violates the rights they declared in their own constitution.
@nodaliki 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. As my rifle was FAMAS during my service in French Army(2004-2011), I wanted VHS-2 to replace FAMAS just because I wanted the French service rifle to remain Bullpup style...
@mizzoupatriot8814 2 жыл бұрын
How many Frenchmen does it take to defend France?...Idk it's never been done...Sit down ya frog and quit trying to act tough.
@revan22 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah sad we chose a German AR to replace the FAMAS. We should've updated our own gun or keep a bullpup design.
@leneanderthalien 2 жыл бұрын
@@revan22 yes but the FAMAS need more than a update (to made it easy to clean, or hand side change, redesign is better: the best i known is the Thales F90 MBR, and in second, the VHS2...
@frenchsk8 2 жыл бұрын
@@leneanderthalien i agree for the cleaning part. such a pain in the ass especially for the chamber and the "mickey head". I can spend at least one hour on those with a toothpick and a cotton swab - the only tools we get in the French army...
@donpatterson3661 2 жыл бұрын
I like your candor, no quarter, tell it the way it is! Great eval.
@vincea1830 2 жыл бұрын
I just saw one of these at the local gun shop! Very very cool looking in person. Had it there for 1600
@iceblock3 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 1600 ! I would have walked out with it
@iceblock3 2 жыл бұрын
Where at and do they ship ?
@anthonyburdine2873 Жыл бұрын
Finally the price has gotten reasonable
@JosipLastre 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, i am using VHS-2 for many years now, i was deployed to Afghanistan with this rifle, fired god knows how many rounds out of it, and all you said was just right, one more thing, none of you are mentioning its "forward assist", or as we like to call it "silent reload button"
@antejorge1695 2 жыл бұрын
Or you can just hit the buttstock and it will put a bullet in chamber
@frankopanklaric 2 жыл бұрын
How bad is the length of pull? Can a short guy like me shoot this thing?
@JosipLastre 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankopanklaric nemas brige
@frankopanklaric 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosipLastre Već sam predao zahtjev za nabavu pa sam htio bit siguran. Hvala!
@JosipLastre 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankopanklaric ne ocekuj bas nesto, za te pare prije nesto od ar 15 platforme
@user-zs9cm6pw1d 2 жыл бұрын
A great gun. (VHS) Iraqi rapid reaction forces use it With an effective range and high fire density. My greetings to you from Iraq 🇮🇶💚
@bradsimpson8724 2 жыл бұрын
16:35 - You've undoubtedly got more experience than I, but those seem like good reasons to have it as a first rifle. If you're not coming from an AR platform, you don't have the training bias that comes with that ergonomic setup. And in my experience, it's easier to learn on a crappy trigger and then appreciate the difference and shoot better with a good one than it is to regress from a nice trigger to a crappy one and not absolutely hate it. I appreciate a nice trigger as much as anyone, and probably more, because I came up on a bullpup.
@random.3665 Жыл бұрын
Funny, was thinking the exact same thing when i heard it^^. "Mhh, would those ergonomics really be that weird for someone who ISN'T used to AR15 style rifles...?"
@anthonyburdine2873 Жыл бұрын
I was seriously considering one of these but the dead trigger has me second guessing. Appreciate the honest review.
@jetjaguar4285 2 жыл бұрын
This is a next level Firearms channel. Everything is high quality, the edits are amazing, the score spot on. 13/10
@6string42 2 жыл бұрын
Before anyone tries to give credit to Springfield for this rifle, just remember.... all they did was import it and put their name on. Just like 95% of all their guns ever. Springfield Armory Inc has never designed a single gun ever. Go ahead and begin your onslaught of incorrect assumptions. I'm ready.
@GarandThumb 2 жыл бұрын
CROATIA FOR THE WIN
@indeeznuts8438 2 жыл бұрын
also that little thing of siding with gun grabbers on some bills
@johnjohnson1997 2 жыл бұрын
Well there is the Springfield sdr-T-556-762-338
@dickfitzwelliner2807 2 жыл бұрын
What aboot the 1903?
@armynurseboy 2 жыл бұрын
@@dickfitzwelliner2807 you mean the Mauser...? 😉
@AviationWP 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review. A trigger "fluke" failure in your experience helped me decide on a Tavor x-95. That plus the odd bolt release, and NBA length of pull. Too bad. I wanted the Hellion.
@tm-rn8jo Жыл бұрын
By far your best intro!
@dann3skjold 2 жыл бұрын
"Helion" is such a boomer name for a gun. C'mon dudes. VHS2 is the right name.
@GarandThumb 2 жыл бұрын
Truth
@kylekenney1907 2 жыл бұрын
Idk Hellion sounds kinda neat, like it's a demon or something.
@alexwalker2582 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylekenney1907 And then you look up the definition of the word and wonder what issues cropped up in development that made them want to name it that.
@kylekenney1907 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexwalker2582 Lol it raises hell apparently, goes along with the Hellcat too
@patrickmcandrews8141 2 жыл бұрын
I have very little time with an AR and so I found the erganomics to be just fine I like working under my armpit for the magazine release and the bolt release and I Found the safety very intuitive and reachable with my thumb. Push for safe, pull for shoot. It was fun to shoot and After a couple 100 rounds the trigger seemed just fine. I just really liked it
@filip_548 Жыл бұрын
As a Croatian, thank you for this video :D also you should try HS11 pistol also Croatian made and I think that USA (springfield imported it as Springfield XDm)
@kickback69200141 Жыл бұрын
Dude, the beginning of this video I spit my coffee out all over my desk!!!!
@qanniqtuq 2 жыл бұрын
The VHS-2 Was tested by the french weapons procurement directorate to replace the FAMAS and was highly ranked but at the end the HK 416 F won
@Subtledge- 2 жыл бұрын
That comment about famas I’ve been looking for.
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 2 жыл бұрын
In other news: the French were annoyed when the the VHS2 performed just as well as the rifle they wanted in the first place but had to do this whole big trail crap for administrative reasons.
@LeGravier01 2 жыл бұрын
Truly a shame we had arrangements with Germany on this time.
@skippylegrandgourou2069 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeGravier01 Yep and German as usual don't buy our Rafale and prefer to buy money pit / unreliable F35. The VHS-2 would have been better.
@LeGravier01 2 жыл бұрын
@@skippylegrandgourou2069 litteraly would go from a bullpup to another one so training wouldn't have to change that much (+look at this beauty). Didn't really need yet another "ar15 style" (yeah, pretty sure the 416 function a little differently than a regular ar15).
@mrross2472 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Review Garand. Was gonna make it my first but you're totally right. I could add more things to a first rifle. Great intro. Starship Troopers my pops showed me that movie when I was young. 😂
@joeJoe-pb3su 2 жыл бұрын
No way dudes...one of my favorite movies of all time. Great stuff 👏 👍
@robertbabic80 Жыл бұрын
Just today we had 30th aniversary of military operation Maslenica. There was demonstration of arms in use by Croatian army. It was first time I was holding HS VHS2 in diferent variants. It is amazing. Military stuff demonstrated dismantling and told me that it is awesome even after few thousend of shots. By the way HS VHS 3 is comming... 😉
@Acromion11 Жыл бұрын
That's a lie and pure propaganda. No Croatian infantrymen fired that many shots with this...'rifle'
@BestKCL Жыл бұрын
@@Acromion11Serb detected.
@Acromion11 Жыл бұрын
@@BestKCL you got me
@TheKrakovv 8 ай бұрын
I did@@Acromion11
@robertbabic80 7 ай бұрын
@@Acromion11 dont be buthurt and envious. That is realy lame comment....