A ton of people are asking the question you pose.... "Can this be a great overdrive source for a ton of modelers that may have great effects but mediocre OD tones, which really spans all the old stuff too that just didn't have top OD tones. Intriguing for sure.

rip line6, kemper, two notes, boss, walrus

Its happening!

I also have hx effects and was thinking about hooking it up with POD express, as there are a few amp simulation available. However I may get ToneX a go...

sorry! LOL

@@SteveSterlacci That was an awesome quote!

@@mikejarman5151 just breaking balls! Lol

he plays in quadraphonic.

"When the Mooer Radar was released, I loved that I could actually set it to have an "amp" in one pedal" How ? AFAIK there is only poweramp / cabsim/IR / GEQ in the Radar, no preamp / full amp sim/capture inside.

Its an ideal size for sure!

If you are e full fledged modeler fan, and youre totally happy, then its safe to skip! Whatever keeps you inspired to play more

Thanks Joe!

Thanks bro! Changing the game!

I don't consider either of you shills, but parroting overused buzzword phrases gives that impression. If either of you care.

@@WholeLottaBulldog I appreciate the feedback. It's not as easy as it seems to come up with a catchy and "clickable" title. It's not just about what we make of it or the quality of the video. It actually has a lot to do with how youtube pushes content and "chooses" what it wants to promote. If you look at all the tonex demos out today, regardless of channel size, some will perform better than others based on these factors alone.

@@SteveSterlacci good response; I understand what you're saying, and it makes sense. Its just fatiguing from a viewer's perspective. Good man for acknowledging the critique.

@WholeLottaBulldog I do welcome constructive feedback and especially viewers perspective. If it were up to me, title and thumbnail would mean significantly less. Then the content would be king vs having to strategize a way to make it "clickable". I promise that none of the guys I'm friends with that do this are ever out to deceive or shill for a buck. I wouldn't associate with that scene at all.

20 internal, 200 software to import

No.

@@mikedfurman Can you add why? With these modelers don't you only need a PA system? And with modeling you can create amps/cabs sounds a lot faster than building physical amps/cabs.

@@Houston123ABC I think both will have a place. Tube amps are still and really always will be the best way to experience music but you can’t always do that because of space and volume constraints. Digital solutions like a Suhr RL/IR or OxBox or a Fryette PS2 make large amps usable from silent to cranked. There’s a contraction in live amps but I think they’ll always hold on!

Yeah that was my mistake when I went direct to my DAW instead of tonex one into daw. So I was DI and didn't leave myself enough headroom. Good ear!

ToneX is way better imo

Rather them actually put some effort into expanding the effects/amp libraries on their flagship QC.

nvm. Power via usbc is annoying but still an awesome package for $175

The other tonex always existed. People sell them used for like 200-250

Yeah, and you can't use a Marshall because other people used marshalls in the past. Bummer.

@slidersson are you suggesting Slash has the same tone that Angus or Page?

I plan on downloading clean amps and pairing them with my pedals.

i hear ya lol

Mine either! Ordered. Lol

Yeah sure buddy

@@haroldthan4948 The reason you lose that "amp in the room feel" is because the recording of a sound is only giving you part of what was there. See... we know this because all one has to do is watch someone play a modeler/whatever in a room, then say, (Sounds great if you can get past the AMP in the room issue) while they are playing through... a amp... Because it's not about speakers or the amp "moving air," that's happening with a FRFR speaker system... The sound you get "feels off" because if you play through analog you get used to more. You sitting here listening to a recording of an AMP will sound the same as a modeler because both are a recording, they both lack "something" that you would otherwise notice when sitting in the actual room. Go ahead... explain it away with more magical nonsense. All of these devices are great, I'm happy people have the tools... but it's like a record VS an CD VS an MP3... each one is a downgrade, but if you grew up with only MP3's you don't notice the loss. If you grew up with records you notice the loss. We see a clear divide between AMPed VS modeler players because it's a real thing. Neither matter when recorded but almost no one records... they play in the room. I bought a Ampeg "amp in a pedal" and the ACS1 amp in a pedal. I couldn't not figure out why I liked the Ampeg but the ACS1 was unplayable to me... I looked them up and what do you know, the Ampeg SGT Di is analog and the ACS1 is all digital. The Ampeg feels like an amp in the room, the ACS1 feels like I'm literally playing an MP3. --------- People are slowing (or quickly) getting used to lessor quality tones, but the trade off is access to near all the tones of amps and pedals, but just lower quality.

@@haroldthan4948 So this video came out about 2 hours ago, around 14-15 min in, they talk about what they think the difference between digital/analog is and how we perceive it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jL1jqa-Dzty8ZqM.html If your willing to listen to the other side, I found it's night and day. I find digital amp/distortion impossible to play... I just stop. I owned the Helix for a month and in that time I literally stopped playing any guitar. I didn't even know what "amp in the room" was. I just got the ACs1 and a SGT-DI (bass but play guitar through it) and I only play on the Ampeg SGT, I didn't even know it was analog... the ACS1 is all digital and it feels like (i believe as I stated) I'm playing an MP3.

Do you play or record guitar for a living? No one disagrees about a real tube amp in the room sounding better than anything, but the only people who really get to do that are either first call musicians or they’re very privileged in the working guitarists world. Those of us who make a living in playing & making music appreciate simple solutions that sound great.

@@Nickgiv My issue is that many of these products are being sold by "reviewers" on youtube, they're salesmen. About 5 years ago all over youtube were "reviewers" claiming that their Helix, Quad Cortex, Headrush, Amplitube, Positive grid ext were now their go to boards... at home and gigs. Fast forward a few years an you notice they still had their amps, their pedal boards and were doing videos on updates to their pedal boards that they gig with. My point is that these products do some thing really well, reverb/delay... outside of that... not so much. Does that mean you cant like them, nope... but the voice that does not keep saying things like, "we live in amazing time to be a guitarist" is important. I had a small Korg "Pandoras box" when I was about 14... I'm 42 now. The issue is that each time these products repackage themselves they sales pitch is always the same, but it's not always true...