Stage 1 Performance Kit on Predator 212

Stage 1 Performance Kit on Predator 212 | Tutorial

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We take a stock Predator 212 engine and install the GoPowerSports Stage 1 kit. We will dyno the stock Predator 212 and show you the differences produced with installing the Stage 1 kit.
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0:00 Kit Intro
0:38 Dyno Stock
1:49 Engine Tear Down
3:28 Jet Install
4:57 Air Filter Adapter Install
6:26 Low Oil Sensor Removal
7:10 Valve Spring Install
11:49 Header, Sleeve, & Muffler Install
13:22 Spark Plug
13:42 Throttle Stop Screw Adjust
14:10 Vent Filter Install
15:12 Air Filter Install
15:38 Pull Starter Adjustment
16:26 Dyno Stage 1
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@deathstar562 3 жыл бұрын

the detail installation and walkthrough is awesome. it really helps out alot. great stuff

@jorgegonzales878 Жыл бұрын

I order my predator 212 about 3 years ago with a stage 1 already installed from you guys and I love it it's still running very strong. It's already going to it's 3rd vehicle.

@GoPowerSports Жыл бұрын

Nicely done!!

@diepunk Жыл бұрын

Did it have upgraded flywheel or other internals?

@jorgegonzales878 Жыл бұрын

@@diepunk I order mine with original flywheel. I believe that would be the stage 2 or stage 3 not sure. I only do the stage one on my predators.

@Konnersaki Жыл бұрын

@@jorgegonzales878your flywheel has been fine ? I want to get more speed but worried about messing up the motor from too much rpms

@s0litud3GT 8 ай бұрын

well if ur scared to upgrade one thing to get more rpms but think ur engine cant handle it, you gotta add and upgrade ur engine so it can stand those high rpms :)@@Konnersaki

@Canadian_Craftsman 3 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah!! 2.5 stage kit is all my bike needs she SCREAMS🤯 i can't imagine the stage 4# 20+ HP keep grinding!!(=✌💚

@jimclark7279 Жыл бұрын

Newbe here. Love the info provided. I did flinch a little when ya cut the oil sensor wire so short. But, what I enjoyed the most was the music....".I looked down the road," from Moarn. Keep up the great work.

@adamm3492 21 күн бұрын

Biggest thing I got outta here was using the Allen wrench to hold the valve spring great bit of information

@edgualdino628 3 жыл бұрын

Great job guys you nail it for the newbies that was a perfect video keep them coming 👍👍👍 Thank You.

@LifeWithJay22 2 жыл бұрын

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@mr.braapalicious 3 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison between the 2! Great video!

@clintcowles7563 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys. This was exactly the video I was looking for. Huge help. 😁

@jerodbjx 3 жыл бұрын

Dude!!! This video was awesome. I think Go Power Sports has mastered every aspect of the predator engines. As a person new to predator engines, I really appreciate the level of detail that is in your videos.

@LifeWithJay22 2 жыл бұрын

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@chancemiller2584 3 жыл бұрын

this must be why my order hasnt been shipped yet, theyre to busy making videos and dynoing engines.

@ratrodcourier8576 3 жыл бұрын

When did you order? Been gonna order some stuff but have been worried about the shipping time do to the message saying they're behind and hearing it's not to timely.

@alexanderscarreviews442 3 жыл бұрын

My order took about 2 weeks to get to Cali

@GoPowerSports 3 жыл бұрын

Ha, we're backed up because everyone and their mother is spending their Stimis on Go-Fast parts. We are working diligently to get everyone's order out...but more orders keep coming in!

@alexanderscarreviews442 3 жыл бұрын

That’s good at least they’re spending there money wisely other then other stuff that won’t last them. I didn’t get a stimi sadly but my cash is still the same you guys shouldn’t blame it on that instead y’all should be happy you guys have income coming in and still in business Pay your employees and get it done.

@timmacon6549 2 жыл бұрын

When you install a stage one kit do you not remove the governor?

@GrizzlyAdams024 3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Im digging the new decals man. Will be ordering some soon!!!!

@StageShout 2 жыл бұрын

Wow!.....What a gain in HP. Definitely worth it! Thanks Guys!

@GoPowerSports 2 жыл бұрын

You bet!

@mrpeepaw 3 жыл бұрын

Man I’m excited to do it to my predator 212. I hit 35 mph on a 60 tooth sprocket bone stock and imma do this upgrade… of course leaving the 60 tooth sprocket. May go 40-45 then and looks awesome.

@mikemoses1009 2 жыл бұрын

I just added tourqe converter and 40 tooth sprocket 12" tires have 23mm carb jetted K&N air filter I have not mph with car yet but it's so much faster that it's squarely top end enough I let out of it I assume I'm hitting 45 or 49 mph just guessing from the feel

@TheRustyRooster 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the step by step. I'll be looking to modify my non hemi soon this video is a big help

@georgephiliastides2949 3 жыл бұрын

I bought a kit after I seen this video and I lost a ton of power. More like I lost 2 hp. I’m removing the parts and issuing a refund.

@s1ckksn0w 3 жыл бұрын

@@georgephiliastides2949 u prolly fucked something up installing it

@koreywilliams4570 3 жыл бұрын

I see you have your tachometer wrapped around the cord on your spark plug. I just got mine in the mail yesterday and the instructions mention to wrap it around that nubbin on the top of the plug.

@brycesandoval9446 10 ай бұрын

My stage one kit didn’t come with a new jet or I misplaced it, any chance you could tell me the size jet to order or add a link?

@Deucealive75 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool testing the gains with the dyno. A little surprised how soon the power started dropping. I have seen other dyno testing where peak HP was at a much higher RPM than here. Their numbers may look a little different if the engine was heat cycled a few times then dyno at a normal operating temp. In other words, dyno when the engine is completely warmed up. If you are running governed you don't need 18lb valve springs. At this RPM the stock springs may have gotten a touch higher power numbers because it takes more power to move an 18lb spring than it does to move a 10lb spring.

@xaviermccloud4586 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's because they were running a none hemi on the other test?

@mikhailjairnisbett441 Жыл бұрын

it's because of the governor, that pulled the throttle back for sure.

@robert-rebecastephan9364 3 жыл бұрын

How do you know/tell the piston is top dead center when rotating the shaft to change out the valve springs? Just look inside it or is there some other trick?

@hobonickel840 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the content ...I am having quite the time trying to figure out what size bolts fit the four bracket holes on the case cover around the crankshaft??? I thought I figured it out and bought some but I don't know if they are different because it's a hemi or what... I'm swapping engines in a trailmaster mini bike and the cvt brackets for the cvt cover/guard need to mount into these holes on the predator but are a different size on the two engines... I want, based on my limited experience, to say they are either 8 or 10 metric...do you know what size they are???

@kbakeritsallaboutnobody.5761 3 жыл бұрын

I'm curious if any of this stuff would work on the predator vertical shaft engine.

@localcrew 2 жыл бұрын

This video makes me want to strap a Predator to my easy chair and go racing! Just subscribed!

@GoPowerSports 2 жыл бұрын

Ha, let's see it

@localcrew 2 жыл бұрын

I can see it in my mind so clearly.

@Wilson_Racing 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a video of a non hemi on the dyno before and after a stage 1 kit? I'd like to see the power difference between them. Or maybe a stage 2 engine next?

@miguelpagansr6128 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Taylor good morning, thanks for the helpful video how tos. I have a Honda gx160 and I’d like to keep it stock but I’d like to know if you guys carry the throttle cable swivel nut not sure what is called. Thanks in advance and ride safe.

@mmoncure11 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Would love to see dyno before after for stock 420 vs stage 1. Do you guys sell build engines?

@thebrokeway9838 Ай бұрын

Great video real easy to follow..my question is so you really don't have to change or drill out the pilot jet..andI have the Hemi are the jets the same for both because I keep coming across parts title non- hemi? See I did not know bout the jets I changed to this akir filter and adapter and now the engine wants to die with a little throttle so I came to uou gents!! Thanks keep up the great work

@coopislit24k 2 жыл бұрын

these videos are good as hell! appreciate all yall in the small engine community!

@GoPowerSports 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!! Thanks for checking us out

@tbonevoodoo 2 жыл бұрын

I have bought it all and all nee clutch assembly. Its pretty fast. Is my belt supposed to almost ride the very top of the pulley? I backed out the screw to allow to give it the most gas. Should I change that screw back so the belt wont go to the top of tge pulley? Its eating belts in 30 mins. Has red spring in it and I have bought a green spring but not installed yet. I also have a 50.00 belt but dont want to ruin it. Thanks for any help! Great video and I used it to build my new 212cc.

@dadhobbies9455 3 жыл бұрын

So does this kit after installed remove or bypass the governor

@desertdoll7 3 жыл бұрын

question ? so i got a new harbor freight 212cc motor have never got it to start ever i took govener off unplugged and removed oil sensor even changed out fuel line tubing put gas and oil nothing happens i did notice that theres no gas getting to my carb at all even when gas lever is on and throttle is opened up theres no gas flow from tank to crab ? this is motor has never been used its been almost a year and not once has it started ive tried everything no luck wut shouls i do

@thefishingchannel3192 2 жыл бұрын

Does this stage 1 kit require any billet parts or is it safe at moderate rpms?

@kylecarmichael91 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do this level of detail all the way through stage four please. Step by step with dyno data backing the upgrades. I enjoyed your video. Maybe with different cam and valve spring combos as well!!!!

@luisquintero1910 3 жыл бұрын

Yea can i im triying to set up my own dump for frends but need some help

@avines7566 3 жыл бұрын

I put everything but the 18# springs on a non hemi motor. Will that cause it not to run right.

@Tampaboys 3 жыл бұрын

Heck ya that little dyno is awesome big like and share from tbc

@lordnetsplits3192 Жыл бұрын

Does the valve cover vent only let out crank case pressure or does it also vacuum air in?

@MrDizzle715 3 жыл бұрын

Another question...so got this kit and the header pipe is NOT flared on the end. How do I attach the muffler? Welding is not an option.

@tentoesdown6247 Жыл бұрын

Can you guys make a troubleshooting video for y’all’s Colman stage 1 kit that comes with the clone carburetor w/ jet already installed? I can’t get mine to run it will idol but as soon as I hit the throttle it cuts off. Everyone says to adjust the float but the float on y’all’s clone carb isn’t adjustable

@sinvegas4675 3 жыл бұрын

do any of your guys billet flywheels come with magnets inside so i can still run my headlights?

@kennydavis7231 2 жыл бұрын

Can you use the same kit on a duromax or more specifically on a 420cc or a 440cc duromax or should i just stick with the predator? And should I go with predator 420cc?

@mikebeggs9085 3 жыл бұрын

Did you just change the jet or did you ad a different E-tube as well ?

@b3eks557 Жыл бұрын

So i have all these parts but the 18lb pound valve strings. Do i need them or will it run fine with the stock ones with a stage 1 on

@daviddelacruz8865 Жыл бұрын

Nice I will use this video for my first install

@bigboygaming4397 2 жыл бұрын

So i put a stage one kit on my predator with the springs, jet, air cleaner, and header but now its shooting oil out the valve cover what could be causing this?

@racecardriver5776 2 жыл бұрын

I'm no professional but I have tinkered on stuff and putting that head cover on with a Impact and not hand starting those screws was pretty ballsy But other than that video was great I love the commentary is a really well put together walkthrough especially with the benchmarks

@Hehemomy123 5 ай бұрын

You should always torque the fastener by hand too. A impact gun will either be over tightening them or not tightening them enough.

@pookysdad4884 3 жыл бұрын

I see ya got your GoPowerSports stickers on there. Don't forget your Cars and Cameras "It'll be fine" sticker (THAT'LL inspire CONFIDENCE in your customers 🤣)

@masonr3706 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video!

@hobonickel840 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it guys... I was really hoping you would talk about the replacement jet... now I'm looking for the size jet you went with everywhere and in comments. I apologize for being such a newb. What jet size did you replace with please??? Thanks again!

@ebrune81 Жыл бұрын

Has anyone has any issues with the idle low rpm jet after this mod? My engine wants to die when I blip the throttle quick. Also noticed I need to choke the engine even after it's warm to get it to start. Pilot low rpm just seems lean condition now.

@johnnymissfire8464 Жыл бұрын

Can you dyno a stick predator ghost? Can the ghost use the fuel tank and gravity feed to the carb or does it need a fuel pump?

@craigd9616 2 жыл бұрын

How do you know if you have a hemi engine? Does it state it on the engine anywhere? Thanks

@unknownsuspect4015 Жыл бұрын

What jet size would I have to put in? I’ve been watching so much videos and no one explains the size jet the use

@evildark940 Жыл бұрын

I got a go kart with all this but the valve springs. I'm afraid to open her up the front wheels leaning in almost hitting the control arms I guess they're called... I ordered spacers to fix the issue hopefully.

@MrThedustin 2 жыл бұрын

Just bought a doodlebug yesterday with this excat motor and kit. I am wondering the best gas to run with this set up? Octane wise. My local ace hardware store has trufuel ethanol free tf3 4 stroke gas would that be safe to run with this set up. Gonna be ordering the billet flywheel, rod and gasket kit from yall soon since my governor bypassed. But so far loads of fun with the stage one kit.

@sterman7632 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I would like to know what is the max rpm for gx200 with stock flywheel

@nicnak1608 3 жыл бұрын

For the starter moving it. Do you have to do anything with the rope or is it as easy as taking it off repositioning it and bolting it back on?

@BermondsayBattler 3 жыл бұрын

Just did this. It's as easy as unbolt, turn and rebolt.

@TheNWCowboy1 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to hook up a hand starter to replace the pull starter.

@robertcoleman4782 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent and concise step by step instructions! Especially love the background music! Who is the artist??

@GoPowerSports 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, don't remember. We use Artlist.io and they have a ton of great artists.

@Trains_n_stuff08 8 ай бұрын

So if I put 18 pound springs on my predator 0 or 1000 lash would be good?

@Ace36644 4 ай бұрын

I put the stage 1 kit on without the jet and it’s cutting out would it not cut out if I put the jet on?

@ricardomelo4097 3 жыл бұрын

Do the same with honda gx 390 please... Congratulations for the channel

@Spacecruizer203 3 жыл бұрын

do i have to change the springs im running a ducar 212cc

@JNC1973 3 жыл бұрын

Question - I have an X-Pro 196cc Mini Bike. Can I order any one of these Upgrade Kits for the Coleman 196cc Mini Bike for mine ? In other words will the Coleman Upgrade Kits work basically on any 196cc Mini Bike no matter the brand of Bike ? Mines a Chinese Bike.

@mikesbarn1858 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison. Like to see it with mikuni now.

@tazcgnso8653 3 жыл бұрын

Won’t that make it blow it up

@trevinskiking2165 3 жыл бұрын

@@tazcgnso8653 NO !

@trevinskiking2165 3 жыл бұрын

Or a new Asian Honda kehein carb of about 20-22mm & above, readily available & jetted spot on & mate up to a nipple bike throttle cable end ! You don't have to appear a guru to know what works for less informed

@RP4886 Жыл бұрын

is that safe changing valve springs without changing the flywheel?

@shyggen 6 ай бұрын

what would an engine like this work on a snowblower? tried searching.. didnt find any videoes on it

@floridaman6829 Жыл бұрын

What fastest you got theses 212 to go?? And what’s the biggest stage for the engine

@edgualdino628 3 жыл бұрын

Hello just wondering do the stock hemi an non hemi make the same power which one makes more power with stage 1 thank you

@trevinskiking2165 3 жыл бұрын

Good qstn cheers Trev NZ

@coreyd7060 3 жыл бұрын

How about with the governors removed on both...

@sac3152 Жыл бұрын

Can this kit be ran with an engine that has the governor removed?

@lacrossed55 Жыл бұрын

Have you all got your hands on the Predator "go cart" engine? Interested to see if it performs well with the off road frame

@juliosdiy3206 Жыл бұрын

Hey guys 2 hp gain is awesome, do u guys know if that kit will fit the duramax 212cc or 274cc?

@evanclark7490 2 жыл бұрын

whenever i click the link in bio, it just takes me to a listing with just an air filter, wheres the exhaust and stuff?

@brodeclocationservices2570 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered a stage 1 kit forever ago. Installed it and my Kart never ran right again. Just now realized it didn't come with the jet kit :/ Any idea the size I need to find?? 1 × Stage 1 Predator Performance Kit for 196cc & 212cc engines Filter Color :BlueAdd The Exhaust Gasket:Add the Exhaust Gasket [ KD212EXG]Add Vent Filter Kit [$9.95]:Add 2 Vent Filters, 2 Zip Ties & Tubing Unfortunately this product is no longer for sale so it cannot be reordered.

@tashasuarez6426 2 жыл бұрын

Is a valve cover vent filter necessary? I swapped my baja warriors carburetor and muffler and air intake first I did the muffler and tourque converter I had original carburetor and air intake and it was going like 27 mph and thats 3 mph faster then it was going and then I installed the new carburetor and air intake but now it won't even get hardly up to 20 mph so I figured maybe the new carburetor had a small holed jet so I shaped that out for my old jet cause I was right and that still didn't make a difference idk what else to do

@GoPowerSports 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say necessary, but definitely recommended to ensure you don't get debris in your valve cover.

@durchh7 2 жыл бұрын

I just recently installed 18lb springs in my non hemi predator 212 and my minibike is actually 4mph slower now. Any ideas or insight on what may have caused this? Thanks

@gabrielgalaxygh 2 жыл бұрын

Double check clearances and springs wont really make it faster. Just makes it safer to run it faster

@jasoncaribou9530 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video definitely recommend 👍

@GoPowerSports 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@farmboyrc 2 жыл бұрын

also, what's the dbs difference with the new muffler

@gabeforgione8470 5 ай бұрын

please help me out guys you can install these valve springs with stock carb (changing jet obviously) but you don’t need to remove the governor?

@GoPowerSports 5 ай бұрын

I guess you could add the 18# valve springs with your governor still in. You would see the most benefit after you hit 5000+ rpms though from changing out these valve springs.

@daytonc4736 3 жыл бұрын

Will this kit fit a coleman 196cc

@braydenhowell6936 Жыл бұрын

Hello! Quick question, is my silicone exhaust wrap supposed to smoke? If so, for how long?

@GoPowerSports Жыл бұрын

Yes it will. Usually after the 1st two rides it'll stop smoking. It's just the material adhering to your header pipe.

@danodano60 3 жыл бұрын

Will the kit work on a 5.5 Honda ?

@maxmania3962 2 жыл бұрын

Will this same kit work on the Predator 224cc?

@dominich.3401 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone know if I do all these changes except the valve springs will that affect the effectiveness of the kit or my motor?

@trevinskiking2165 3 жыл бұрын

Dominic for someone with a vested interest you'd think your qstn would be answered - yes not swapping out the stock v/springs will effect the engine & how high you can rev it before potentially damaging valve float.T goodluck

@HaveUSeenMyBaseball86 Жыл бұрын

How does this work when your motor is at a 15 degree angle?

@l.a.m7645 3 жыл бұрын

What size ratchet for spark plug?

@gilaspinoytv 3 жыл бұрын

wow i like the sounds

@usmanakhtar7683 2 жыл бұрын

What to do if you don’t have a vent cover

@whiteamerican 2 жыл бұрын

Why didn't you back throttle screw before the 1st run?

@sonofasosa4592 2 жыл бұрын

Seems like we end up needing another thick carburetor gasket for space so the choke lever doesn’t press against the choke bracket screw and has space to turn back and forth

@anthonyzamano3929 Жыл бұрын

Do you have to replace the carburetor?

@weiweiwang4603 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder what happens if you only change the speed setting screw, without installing the upgrades?

@kevinjohnson9372 2 жыл бұрын

I reved mine 6200 a few times honest to God it's bone stock

@mikeryan3948 10 ай бұрын

What size pitot jet would you use on this build.

@justbuilds8248 2 жыл бұрын

what was the max rpm ?

@jjrob925 3 жыл бұрын

How did you run it after the install without an oil catch can an not make a mess or venting the ohv back back into the motor?

@jekinneys 3 жыл бұрын

It's more preference to run a catch can. It's just a small amount of oil that you won't see an oil loss. Put the filter above the valve cover helps a lot.

@Deans64 2 жыл бұрын

how come you back off the throttle stop on second run and not the first

@chuckhuff7123 8 ай бұрын

Is that with the governor still in the engine?😮😊, or removed?😮😅

@collinblake9957 3 жыл бұрын

Does the kit come with instructions?

@naturechanel209 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a 212 non hemi dyno run for me with the stage one ?

@tbonevoodoo 2 жыл бұрын

Really not much difference. I own both engines.

@Troygehring 2 жыл бұрын

@@tbonevoodoo I have a Coleman ct200u and the stock engine blew up. I had a stage 1 kit on that engine. that I would like to put on a new predator. Will a stage 1 kit work with the hemi or just the non hemi or both?

@tbonevoodoo 2 жыл бұрын

@@Troygehring Both

@Troygehring 2 жыл бұрын

@@tbonevoodoo thanks