Stainless Steels:LC200N,SPY27,S45VN,MAGNACUT Comparison

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ericasedc

ericasedc

Жыл бұрын

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@DaDirtyBoyz187
@DaDirtyBoyz187 Жыл бұрын
I’m a new fan of this girl! She knows her shit… AND uses it🤣
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives Жыл бұрын
In the video I did I mentioned that the steel felt soft, I said the heat treatment felt ok but that it just isn't at a high hrc, that's what I speculated. Especially after testing good heat treated hard magnacut it's pretty easy to tell the difference. Saying Best steel is like saying best vehicle, best for what?
@dustinwhitt5297
@dustinwhitt5297 Жыл бұрын
A lot of thought should go into knife designs. Blade shape/grind, steel, handle types and down to the lock. Each knife has a different specific use.
@jasonmccomas7220
@jasonmccomas7220 Жыл бұрын
Your candor is what makes me respect you so much. I love your clear, open and honest opinions on knives and blade steels with no fear of getting blow back from the big manufacturers. Keep it up! 👊🏼
@richardvirchow3390
@richardvirchow3390 Жыл бұрын
I find varying knife steels interesting to talk about but I like my analogy comparing knives to cars, a 440 stainless knife ( a great steel from 1950-1980+ even today) will cut cardboard or cut your thumb off as well as a SPY27 knife just as you can drive 20 miles to the store and get where you’re going just as easily in VW Beetle as in a Cadillac. I started collecting knives 3-4 years ago and got caught up in the knife steel elitism and bought knives in D2 - until the D2 knives starting rusting indoors, having never been outdoors and never exposed to rain/water. What I find most intriguing about pocket knives are the shape of their handles, blades, locking mechanisms, etc and innovation.
@RedsoxNation07
@RedsoxNation07 Жыл бұрын
Your videos and outlook/use is a breath of fresh air for my youtube/knife video viewing! Been loving it a lot!!! Going to check out the Playlists as well
@BY-dq3mt
@BY-dq3mt Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. It’s excellent. I know you are broadening the scope of your channel (and I’m digging it) and hope content like this on knives continues.
@markturbeville9365
@markturbeville9365 Жыл бұрын
S45vn is great. Should be the standard for premium steel. I’m so tired of M390/20cv. There are so many high end knives I want to buy but hold off because they are in M390/20cv. Magnacut looks great on paper, but just like you said, it seems like makers are still trying to figure out how to heat treat it. The examples of magnacut I have experienced are decent but nothing to write home about. For high edge retention while maintaining decent toughness and sharpenability , I haven’t found anything better than s90v. Love the videos. Keep up the good work. Use your shit!
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 Жыл бұрын
I try to steer clear of M390 as well(due to it's tendency to chip), but in regards to stainlessness my M390 Ace Biblio is phenomenal, damn near as good as my LC200N knives. Oddly my Kizer Cormorant in 20cv doesn't seem to have the same stainless properties.
@YaYa-ke1zr
@YaYa-ke1zr Жыл бұрын
I need a Magnacut and a SPY27. I have tried LC200N, XHP, S30v, and 20cv. None of the ones I’ve tried have changed my life in the ways that K390 and HAP40 have changed my life. I use LC200n for food. Easy to sharpen but edge retention not awesome. XHP is nice but barely stainless. It slices like a beast depending on blade thinness. Sharpening wasn’t bad at all. Removed it from rotation due to the relative non-stainlessness of it. S30v is okay. Not special. Not fun to sharpen. 20cv is supposedly the best stainless blade that I currently own. Better than LC200n in terms of edge retention, but I hate sharpening it. SPY27 will most likely replace my LC200n knives if Spyderco ever releases Delica’s/Endura’s/Police’s with that steel.
@nicoledodge7240
@nicoledodge7240 Жыл бұрын
Very nice and thorough breakdown of these steels, that is SUPER helpful!!
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 2 ай бұрын
I have a Pacific Salt in H2 and I love it. Very easy to sharpen but doesn't stay sharp as long as some other steels.
@FISHUNTREE
@FISHUNTREE Жыл бұрын
LC200N is great...... but need to get hands on Magnacut Native 5 Salt
@FreedomFox1
@FreedomFox1 Жыл бұрын
It’s always nice to hear your updated opinion on steels. Another must-watch channel for someone who wants a similar firsthand perspective would be “Engineer’s Perspective.” Justin is also great at explaining the science of knife steels in an accessible way
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
I am OBSESSED with his channel!
@jacobcarter6028
@jacobcarter6028 Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched all those videos about steel talk already, but still wanted to watch this😂
@mikep.9371
@mikep.9371 Жыл бұрын
Nice and simple but some still don't follow your directions. Take care Erica and get well fast.
@c7t1consulting87
@c7t1consulting87 4 ай бұрын
Magnacut is great, especially on Spyderco like Native 5. I think I have to agree tho on CPM S45VN. It’s probably the best all around especially for EDC in almost any brand that makes it. Love my Para 2 in S45VN because all I have to do is strop it. Almost never have to sharpen and it shows just how tough it is.
@stevemastbaum
@stevemastbaum Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I’ve noticed LC 200N is very easy to sharpen also, seems to get very sharp.
@SaigonKick2018
@SaigonKick2018 Жыл бұрын
IMO many knife reviewers get to bent out of shape about the best steel or best knife question. Obviously some subscribers are just looking to you to steer them in the right direction. I’ve lived in desert environments and salt water environments. In either environment (more likely than not) the steel will see moisture. You gave some great examples of steels that will serve anybody’s needs and that’s awesome!
@adx442
@adx442 Жыл бұрын
I was on a 6 month wait for the Hogue Deka v2 in Magnacut (clip point, polymer handles). I wonder if they revisited their heat treatment between yours and mine, as mine isn't soft at all. I've hit bone, a nail, and a brass staple with it while using it, and it didn't roll or develop a flat spot. I haven't had to do more than a swipe on a ceramic rod and a quick strop to keep it sharp yet. A note on the stainless aspect of Magnacut ... I took my son canoe camping last weekend and it was clipped into my pocket the whole time. I was in and out of the river to clear shallow spots, it rained a lot, and the humidity was high all weekend. Normally I pack a wipe down cloth soaked in Ballistol, but I forgot it this time. No rust, no discoloration, nothing. I was impressed. I'd send yours back to Hogue, maybe it's a lemon. I had a Benchmade 940 in M390/20CV years ago that I could not keep an edge on, and BM replaced the blade for free, agreeing that it was far softer than it should have been.
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
I may look into that! Thank you!
@funbagguy4240
@funbagguy4240 Жыл бұрын
@@ericasedc think you may have got a bad 1, mine is good hit a nail and nothing. keep up the kick ass reviews.
@dtcho100
@dtcho100 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. I have 4 Magnacut Deka knives -- none of them have any rolling edge issues. I even pressed the edges against a nail and the edges didn't roll and the edges hold up. Sounds like the Erica got a bum sample.
@happykt
@happykt 11 ай бұрын
I actually watched 5 or 6 of your videos on various steels before watching this one. I'm getting the Native 5 SPY25, thanks to all your videos on the pros and cons of NATIVE 5s with different steels in each video.
@davidhorvathdr
@davidhorvathdr 7 ай бұрын
Great explanation, thank you!
@dustinwhitt5297
@dustinwhitt5297 Жыл бұрын
What's your favorite all around knife you've ever owned? Other than the 940 or para 3 that is.
@1980JPA
@1980JPA Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info and taking the time to go over it another time for the new people in our community. I was going to watch it (already knowing all about the steels and having the wherewithal to check knifenerd's findings on each) just to add to you watch numbers. Was about to bail after all the bitching at the beginning of the vid. Figured I'd hang in there and figure you can have a bad day just like those people asking questions that are easily answered through a Google search. Maybe they had a bad day also. Also, when people ask specific youtubers what they think of a steel they seem to be asking more for their specific experience and opinion, which you did a great job of expressing. Thank you for the vid and I hope times are on their way towards better for you guys.
@snowtiger44
@snowtiger44 Жыл бұрын
I am just using what makes the cut for me i am not really into steels yet because i am a beginner enthousiast . But may be if magnacut is more available i will give it a try one day just like d2 is everYwhere now . We need to look more into the playlists you are right about that.
@whalehands4779
@whalehands4779 Жыл бұрын
I have had a Hogue in Magnacut and agree that it was completely shiet. I also have a Casexx Marilla and 940 blade by Greg Gersh Gayevsky in Magnacut that has been nothing but amazing. Baton through brick. Scraped rust off off very thick rusted things, like a trailer made out of .25 inch steel. It held up no problems. And like you said how everyone wants to forget s45vn and say Magnacut is king, that has left a whole shit ton of CRKs just sitting around. It's not difficult to get one you want. Unless it's a Umnumzaan.
@biosimilar4961
@biosimilar4961 Жыл бұрын
I just texted my mom asking her what steel is best and she literally told me to fark off too! 😮
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
Your mom likes when I text her 😅😂
@mikeflesher4457
@mikeflesher4457 Жыл бұрын
Curious how crk magnacut will stack up amongst everything. Don’t think I’ve seen any reviews yet. Hope they release drop points and inlays soon in magnacut. Would love a small micarta
@tonydillinger2553
@tonydillinger2553 7 ай бұрын
Trying to decide between spy 27, cruwear, magnacut for my next manix.
@wills.8662
@wills.8662 Жыл бұрын
Have you had the opportunity to check out CTS-XHP? I have heard it described as D2 but stainless and maybe a bit less tough
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
Yes I have videos on it!
@stevestory8483
@stevestory8483 Жыл бұрын
Surprised no 20cv in this list. Is it not as good as the other steels in ur opinion?
@My_Bow_L.Y.F
@My_Bow_L.Y.F Жыл бұрын
Which one rust first??
@powerart1
@powerart1 Жыл бұрын
Edit: I'm considering the lc200n spyderco caribbean but I wasnt sure how I would do with it after using d2 and 154cm. Maybe it will wow me in toughness. If I can act stupid with it and use it hard it's definitely for me.
@angrymushrooms11
@angrymushrooms11 Жыл бұрын
There's actually stainless testing. Vanax being the hardest to stain. Lc200n being a close second. A video was made using different corrosive liquids.
@agitodclxvi
@agitodclxvi 10 ай бұрын
great video, i now wonder how's spyderco's new native 5 magnacut performing, i am patiently waiting their para 3 lw magnacut version release....
@My_Bow_L.Y.F
@My_Bow_L.Y.F Жыл бұрын
Lol just want to see if anyone comments 😅
@robthompson8285
@robthompson8285 Жыл бұрын
Erica, can you tell me what are some good corrosion resistant steels? 😉😂
@latetodagame1892
@latetodagame1892 Жыл бұрын
I swim with an h1 blade. Can you take these all surfing? 🌊
@gabrielbaker2667
@gabrielbaker2667 Жыл бұрын
Hey Erica, what’s better? LC200N or Magnacut?
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
Your mom’s dinner being made for me not you
@voidpunkprincess
@voidpunkprincess Жыл бұрын
You think spyderco has been holding off on magnacut because they're still trying to iron out how they'd work the steel and what they'd be OK releasing?
@tylerrohn6938
@tylerrohn6938 Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t my eyes burning…. Giggidy
@jd4edc
@jd4edc Жыл бұрын
I believe the first run Deka Magnacut was 58-60 HRC from what I’ve seen researching it and then when Doug Ritter worked with Hogue for his MC run it was done at 63-64. But the first run of the Deka was very low for MC. I think even if they did 61-62 like Tactile it might hold a better Edge. I hope hogue gets it right because I really like them as a company. 👍
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
I need to try some updated Hogue Magnacut!
@stepheno3422
@stepheno3422 6 ай бұрын
Have you tested recent Magnacut from Hogue? Hoping it’s improved because I just bought a Deka …
@juanjuarez9360
@juanjuarez9360 Жыл бұрын
Anyone have any experience with tactile knife CO magnacut?
@2873lonewolf
@2873lonewolf Жыл бұрын
Was mentioned in this video.
@juanjuarez9360
@juanjuarez9360 Жыл бұрын
@@2873lonewolf I just finished the video I saw that she mentioned tactiles magnacut thanx
@chriswebb3018
@chriswebb3018 Жыл бұрын
So what one is the best?
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
Your mom
@smv128
@smv128 Жыл бұрын
ERICA WHAT KNIFE IS BEST?!?!?! /S
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
Weenies
@tonydillinger2553
@tonydillinger2553 7 ай бұрын
Whats better magnacut or cru wear? Lol....
@nicoledodge7240
@nicoledodge7240 Жыл бұрын
FIRST! Finally
@meursault1654
@meursault1654 Жыл бұрын
Hey, good summary! I like s45vn too. Would s90v be a further step up? Get well already…jk
@chriswebb3018
@chriswebb3018 Жыл бұрын
Bigger # = more better
@meursault1654
@meursault1654 Жыл бұрын
@@chriswebb3018 so by this logic 440c is the best because it has the highest number? Yeah, right
@YaYa-ke1zr
@YaYa-ke1zr Жыл бұрын
Seems like s45vn is ranking higher on the forum…
@meursault1654
@meursault1654 Жыл бұрын
@@YaYa-ke1zr i agree it’s up there but s90v got some crazy positive reviews from engineering explained and outpost 76, both test and sharpen and know steel well. Erica did a very positive preliminary vid but no overall conclusions. I wish i grabbed a para 3 lw in s90v but am very happy with para3 in s45vn. Easy maintenance.
@YaYa-ke1zr
@YaYa-ke1zr Жыл бұрын
@@meursault1654 True, I think it comes down to what each reviewer prefers and what attributes they value. MC has ranked steels as well, so have quite a few others. I’m not as smart as Larrin but we value different things. I tend to try to find a reviewer who values the same attributes that I do… then listen to what they say about it, that has helped me focus on the right steels for me. Oh there’s a cool chart at KnifeBasics comparing the two. Seems like the major difference is wear resistance. I probably wouldn’t buy both unless I was comparing to experiment; they seem rather close with only preferences determining the winner. I wish more models were made with s45vn… 20cv is frustrating me, I need to replace it with something new.
@FISHUNTREE
@FISHUNTREE Жыл бұрын
Your reviews are important to the knife industry BTW
@Diaszurana
@Diaszurana Жыл бұрын
Laren's book?
@robertbarnum7541
@robertbarnum7541 9 ай бұрын
Larrin Thomas. "Knife Engineering". YT channel KnifeSteelNerds.
@mihaidragnea9785
@mihaidragnea9785 10 ай бұрын
I respect your opinion that it is obv based on your experiences, but based on scientific testing I've seen I would rank them based on stainlessness like this: 1. LC200N 2. MAGNACUT 3. S45VN 4. SPY27. Now did I do the testing myself? Fuck now I didn't even experience all of them, I just read articles on the internet so don't respect anything I said, but we're all able to have our opinion. What I think is not mentioned here is that LC200N is more stain proof than stainless, in most testing videos it doesn't even rust, it's not quite H1/H2 level but you know. That being said, will you have problems with corrosion on any of these in normal use? NO, not in a million years.
@joelhunter984
@joelhunter984 Жыл бұрын
Do you want to sell your Shaman in Rex 45? The one you had moded out? Let me know. Ill pay your price.
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
I don’t own one. You may be thinking of someone else! Sorry!
@joelhunter984
@joelhunter984 Жыл бұрын
@@ericasedc You recently had a REX 45 someone moded out for you were doing a comparison video maybe to a K390 Spyderco. Hell im old give me a minute and ill remember.
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
@@joelhunter984 oh’! The Native 5 LW! That isn’t for sale. I’m sorry!
@joelhunter984
@joelhunter984 Жыл бұрын
@@ericasedc Copy that!. I get It. I went back and looked at the video. The Rex 45 intrigues me. Been looking for one but, I like the idea of a thinner Rex 45 blade. I like that you won't part with it. I have a few I won't get rid of either. I have a DULO Pukko in laminated K390 I won't give up. I blazed through a 290 pound hog and hit bone and ligament and still hair poppin sharp. Hats off to you. Love the content. Joel is my name. Nice to meet so to speak.
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
@@joelhunter984 nice to meet you Joel! Welcome to the channel!!!!🥰🥰🥰🥰🤣
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 Жыл бұрын
One of the popular knife tubers suggested H1 would be good if you were a roofer and needed to cut shingles, how TF does that guy have 100k subscribers is beyond me, but I wasn't surprised as he likes to push gas station aesthetic knives.
@whalehands4779
@whalehands4779 Жыл бұрын
How dare you put the choice in my hand on which steel I want to know is better!
@tonydillinger2553
@tonydillinger2553 7 ай бұрын
First off, I will not F off, but I will go text my mom because it's been a couple of days..... lol...
@dewet2wet
@dewet2wet Жыл бұрын
Second? *shrug*
@tylerrohn6938
@tylerrohn6938 Жыл бұрын
Lmao “soft like baby $hit”
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Жыл бұрын
It really is haha
@knifetoucher
@knifetoucher 11 ай бұрын
Hogue just doesnt make good knives, sorry not sorry. No reason to ever look at a Hogue when you can just get a Spyderco for the same price point and infinitely better
@dtcho100
@dtcho100 6 ай бұрын
Hogue makes some excellent knives. You may like Spyderco better, but that is a matter of opinion.
@joannejoma3223
@joannejoma3223 Жыл бұрын
ERICA & NICOLE - While watching Girl In The Woods, I thought of you both as Girls In The New Hampshire Woods. YOU TWO ARE POWERFUL WOMEN! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nd6qrZd6ma7Qgok.html
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