Star Rail's Writers Are Crazy

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@Necrit
@Necrit Ай бұрын
Penacony Awaits You in Honkai: Star Rail! hoyo.link/cK4iFBAL
@TarrDan
@TarrDan Ай бұрын
The only acceptable kind of KZfaq sponsor
@wiktor9673
@wiktor9673 Ай бұрын
Are you going to make a vid to speculate about the future stops?(The ones mentioned in the fake ending before the first credits of penacony). All of the options mentioned there seemed pretty interesting. I wonder If stats of player choices here are going to influence it somehow.
@treasure9342
@treasure9342 Ай бұрын
Ya ngl......i pretty much stop listenting when i saw this was an ad
@legendaryswordsman653
@legendaryswordsman653 Ай бұрын
I totally have the same theory. I think they have correlated all player answers out of the five locations to go next and the one that gets the most will be 3.0. I think they can get away with this if this goes on to 2.8 instead of 2.6 giving them enough time. They are always months ahead so all that content in continuance missions with Bellabog (sampo hint at end of black swan quest), loufu (hint from developers heart rate questions), I also think they've done up penacony continuance.
@looiyuanjieyuanjie1451
@looiyuanjieyuanjie1451 Ай бұрын
can you do wuthering waves ?
@muhammadilyas8107
@muhammadilyas8107 Ай бұрын
"Robin stance as the main positive character whose have major impact" I hate to say this but "SERAPHINE COULD NEVER!"
@liqiye3611
@liqiye3611 Ай бұрын
i didnt read seraphine lore, but comparing seraphine story to to a charcater in a story based game is kinda lame
@oshimachka
@oshimachka Ай бұрын
​@@liqiye3611 tbh seraphine is the one that has been released more than 3 years ago, not robin like i get what you mean, but having Bad and inconsistent lore for 3 years is a crime (and she came out pretty much literally saying "skarner, wanna hear your dead relatives sing?")
@misxfitx
@misxfitx Ай бұрын
i usually call robin "the honkai seraphine" lmao
@voanhduy389
@voanhduy389 Ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Seraphine VA is Robin VA but but sing a better song and have a amazing Final Stage Song🤣🤣🤣
@bangzub
@bangzub Ай бұрын
​@@voanhduy389oh no.. now I have to use Robin.. 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨
@Hououin818
@Hououin818 Ай бұрын
Sparkle quest actually spoiled the entirety of Penacony story if you really think about it
@Masterzahar
@Masterzahar Ай бұрын
How is it spoiling the twist with the true antagonists? It's a shame we can't replay quests, I want to replay all penacony now. It's the kind of story you need to go through twice once you finished it.
@keitokarl
@keitokarl Ай бұрын
yea that's why shes calling us dumb, she had it figured out, but when dreaming, its best to let the host realize it themselves to wake themselves up themself
@user-pi8pi3wj7h
@user-pi8pi3wj7h Ай бұрын
Sparkle (and the masked fools) probably had the whole situation figured out from the start. Tho i wonder how much Aha actually cares
@kitnal4143
@kitnal4143 Ай бұрын
it does make me wonder what she is up to, we know there is more to Penacony and we still have no idea why she was handing out buttons in the most recent patch. Like.... what.
@zenixvampirchik652
@zenixvampirchik652 Ай бұрын
@@kitnal4143 She is up to having fun... What exactly she considers as fun this time around though...
@kyoken8691
@kyoken8691 Ай бұрын
Sparkle is low key probably one of the first ones to realize the truth of Penacony, she's just not really interested in the outcome hence why she went about helping all sides with her sending us the child's dream, giving Aventurine pointers, the whole Sparkle quest, and helping Sunday by masquerading as Robin. Her actions were all about moving the plot forwards as if she was reminding everyone what role they had to play and where they had to be in the story.
@babyplum2837
@babyplum2837 Ай бұрын
Also bombs
@LAHDL
@LAHDL Ай бұрын
She's so silly!
@camaela18
@camaela18 25 күн бұрын
Exactly thats what Masked Fools are! Even Sampo helped us throughout Belobog! Always somehow leading us to the next act.
@najwan6419
@najwan6419 Ай бұрын
I think the introduced switching POV mechanic in penacony trailblaze mission should be given more praise. It allows the story buildup, char background and interaction between chars more immersive while controlling and maintaining the pace which luofu story lack off.
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 Ай бұрын
Btw The switching pov was ingame way before By that i mean belobog and loofu also had it just not on a scale this big
@jrlabanza
@jrlabanza Ай бұрын
Shaoji loves doing that especially the Elysian Everlasting Arc. Even the Antagonist on the arc have her POV which was brutal to experience (Kosma and Griseo Part)
@iglesianifuhuaw4228
@iglesianifuhuaw4228 Ай бұрын
​@@jrlabanzayou don't have to remind me of that😭
@animo358
@animo358 Ай бұрын
I just wonder if it means Companion quests are done...
@animagkrasver9872
@animagkrasver9872 20 күн бұрын
@@animo358 I'm positive they'll give us character's quest after we've done with Penacony story. Because as of right now, characters are kinda otherwise occupied and it would break the pacing
@rakuzalupus9011
@rakuzalupus9011 Ай бұрын
The Mask Fools are summarized as the "Side Character helping the Main character quest but on how they do it well it depends on the Mask Fool in Question" but in the end is still helps the Main character achieve the goal so those buttons will do something at what well who knows at this point.
@antiquorumaugustus8200
@antiquorumaugustus8200 Ай бұрын
out-topic but The Mask Fools seem to be a nod reference to the Lord of the Mysteries novel which is popular in China
@forslos8756
@forslos8756 Ай бұрын
There is still a lot of stuff unclear yet so 2.3 might be a long story as well. Sparkle button, IPC take over, boothill looking for the IPC marketing head (possibly involve boothill backstory too), firefly third dead.
@twovillages7168
@twovillages7168 Ай бұрын
​@antiquorumaugustus8200 I also thought that may be the case. Not to mention, Black Swan has some really strong LoTM vibes, too. I mean, her ult, tarrot cards, outfit, and dream traversing ability are so LoTM.
@Nowaylarry
@Nowaylarry Ай бұрын
That tracks as it was also Sampo's role in Belabog.
Ай бұрын
Penacony story unironically clears the vast majority of AAA titles' story and it's not even close.
@byleth0726
@byleth0726 Ай бұрын
This is so very true.
@ZephyrK_
@ZephyrK_ Ай бұрын
Is Hoyoverse not AAA? It costs them hundreds of millions of dollars to develop a title (Genshin cost 250M BEFORE launch) and they make billions yearly.
@dexterlallo397
@dexterlallo397 Ай бұрын
current AAA titles got nothing on hsr now, i mean the heck is going on.
@user-pi8pi3wj7h
@user-pi8pi3wj7h Ай бұрын
Okay now yall are glazing (and I loved penacony)
@blindspotj
@blindspotj Ай бұрын
This hurts but i have to agree
@javalidecristal9891
@javalidecristal9891 Ай бұрын
12:05 Duke Inferno was actually set up just for that, with the stelleron hunters destroying Jepela, making an opening for the everflame mansion to take place so that they would eventually get invited to penacony, just so that Acheron would have a way to get into penacony by stealing the invitation from the bad guys. There's also the fact that Duke Inferno died as a martyr for his children who still have their missions to destroy each other faction that was assigned to them by their father. So while his death felt a little cheap, there's actually a lot of ramifications that lead to that point and a lot of consequences that came and are still coming after the fact.
@bunbun283
@bunbun283 Ай бұрын
SHAOJI BE COOKING 🗣️🔥 Anyone who know Elysian Realm know that this isn't even his full power
@tristanventer4274
@tristanventer4274 Ай бұрын
Brother, you are speaking trutha
@raystoner1250
@raystoner1250 Ай бұрын
I am scared of 2.3 honestly. Shaoji hasn't finished cooking yet. We still can't trust him😂
@MagnusArchitectOfFate
@MagnusArchitectOfFate Ай бұрын
@@raystoner1250nah, I trust him to deliver something magnificent(heartwarming and heartbreaking simultaneously)
@tuna3873
@tuna3873 Ай бұрын
Shaoji just ripped off the finale of part 1 and slapped it into Penacony though?
@MUSASHIINUNU
@MUSASHIINUNU Ай бұрын
Exactly, Im so sussed out by everything ever since I heard it was SHAOJI.
@nebsoficial6148
@nebsoficial6148 Ай бұрын
The devs said on the livestream that they had been working on Penacony story since 2022
@blazingstorm9351
@blazingstorm9351 Ай бұрын
Damn so they've been cookin.
@b4udi249
@b4udi249 13 күн бұрын
its rlly complex so erm dang.
@TheBooke
@TheBooke Ай бұрын
Fun fact the writer of Penacony introduced 13 characters in Impact 3rd and made everyone care about them in a few patches
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 Ай бұрын
And then thus spoke shaoji (if you know you know)
@MrcreeperDXD777
@MrcreeperDXD777 Ай бұрын
and then….
@Duong-dc6cm
@Duong-dc6cm Ай бұрын
See you the next world
@MikeOuttaphone
@MikeOuttaphone Ай бұрын
Penacony definitely had the soul of the story from Honkai Impact 3rd. You cant find your way out of the maze without hitting a few dead ends, but the beauty and marvel of it is how well everything came together in the end. I believe what really made Penacony was its complexity. If it were spoon-fed to us, I don't think it would have been as rewarding to PLAY alongside the story with all of the twists and revelations. About Sparkle- I am certain we have not seen the last of her. I remember telling my friend (way before Penacony was even announced) that I'm certain we will eventually head back to Belobog, and he didn't believe me. Sparkle and Sampo's interactions really laid some breadcrumbs to what is to come.
@pututunik8748
@pututunik8748 Ай бұрын
to be fair, Belobog isn't the only one where we must return there, seems like we may also return to the luofu with all the jingliu/luocha judgement. those 2 places has plenty of 'breadcrumbs' both from official releases and leaks imho
@worldiefeard8396
@worldiefeard8396 Ай бұрын
I suspect the entire point of Sparkle is (sadly or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) to set up whenever the team returns to Belobog and a ipotetical "5* Sampo" appearance. In the end she was in Penacoly mostly for her own fun (or so it looks) and didn't actually care much of the events, just wanted to see how the twists would go and if people would have caught on her hints or not.
@nyoom5618
@nyoom5618 Ай бұрын
coming from hi3 i can say the writer for penacony (shaoji) is insanely talented as a writer
@keitokarl
@keitokarl Ай бұрын
yea literally insanely insane
@HotaruExtori
@HotaruExtori Ай бұрын
talented and insane
@deidryt9944
@deidryt9944 Ай бұрын
Time to pull up "Because of You" again
@Duong-dc6cm
@Duong-dc6cm Ай бұрын
Meanwhile , gun girls z writer
@Duong-dc6cm
@Duong-dc6cm Ай бұрын
Meanwhile, gun girls z writer: see you in the next world
@madlifeelements4254
@madlifeelements4254 Ай бұрын
shaoji and his writing team really cooked so good and it turns out into a buffet FUN FACT Shaoji, The story writer of Honkai: Star Rail Penacony is also the writer of Honkai Impact 3rd (Hi3 veterans know this) The Arcs he wrote in Honkai Impact 3rd are: Final Lesson🔥 (St. Freya) Seele🦋 (Sea of Quanta) Lament of The Fallen🌃 (Nagazora) Everlasting Flames🔥 (HoD Domain) Because of You🌸 (Elysian Realm)
@missycho_2424
@missycho_2424 Ай бұрын
The Lament of the Fallen is in Nagazora City😅
@asdfkisawa
@asdfkisawa Ай бұрын
i heard that Lingyi actually is the writer behind all the plots and Shaoji continued after she left
@madlifeelements4254
@madlifeelements4254 Ай бұрын
@@asdfkisawa lingyi is the writer for ggz, iirc lingyi didn't wrote the early hi3 story since she was busy writing ggz at that time
@asdfkisawa
@asdfkisawa Ай бұрын
@@madlifeelements4254 uhm...i thought it was like that, because the plots are similar and a lot of GGZ story continued in HI3 as a sequel excepting in the GGZ ending ofc
@madlifeelements4254
@madlifeelements4254 Ай бұрын
@@asdfkisawa There were similarities between ggz and hi3, but not a lot. Shaoji, the Hi3 VN writer, and their writing team were the ones behind the storywriting of Hi3. Theres already a documentary for it. you should watch it.
@broccolidiego2053
@broccolidiego2053 Ай бұрын
There are a possibility that Sparkle part was there just to distract us the player from the real plot. In her story quest, she led us around to solve a bunch of mystery just like the Penacony story arc and throughout the story quest there are some red herring along the way that has nothing to do with each mystery. This might be a hint that her purpose of being in Penacony is just to be a red herring to distract the player because only the player knew what she does. It really fit her character too if that were the case.
@anagramhound
@anagramhound Ай бұрын
Just Masked Fools doing Masked Fools thing.
@odintakerprime6595
@odintakerprime6595 Ай бұрын
well, she said it herself:"Red herring" y'know, cuz she's wearing red.
@ShadowDweller_YT
@ShadowDweller_YT Ай бұрын
​@@odintakerprime6595 And her whole theme/kit is red herring centered.
@alexanderpokatilo6432
@alexanderpokatilo6432 Ай бұрын
Her main color is even red. So is a trully red herring
@lucustwyatt1960
@lucustwyatt1960 Ай бұрын
Her ult line even says so itself "a thousand faces in a thousand places, can you find the answer?"
@barny541
@barny541 Ай бұрын
When I saw the Firefly gameplay leaks I was like: "Man, Necrit is gonna love this!"
@GGABueno
@GGABueno Ай бұрын
I was worried he wasn't going to like the twist, but I'm glad he did
@Sero4
@Sero4 Ай бұрын
12:35 see the issue here is that in a piece of throwaway dialogue, Acheron (or Black Swan, can't remember well enough) mentions that Sunday didn't trap us in a dream. Rather, he used the power of the Stellaron to blend reality with the dream world, which in my opinion is even more confusing lol
@diaglan
@diaglan Ай бұрын
Acheron said with the stellaron dreams can manifest in reality, thats why you were able to see Misha in the lobby. Black Swan thinks that everything you did was real except for seeing Misha in the lobby which was a flaw. Ena's power was able to twist reality with dreams so that it appears you've already won and you can go on to the next trailblazing expedition, except Acheron was there who wasn't affected by Ena's power to wake you and the others up, kinda like lucid dreaming but in reality.
@hqhuy931
@hqhuy931 Ай бұрын
Necrit can you do a video just explaining all the story with spoilers kind of like what you did for League? I think some of us just turned off our brains at some point and forgot. Or maybe one where you talk about cool side quests
@MrShamus22
@MrShamus22 Ай бұрын
I'll agree that Penacony was a heavy story. Honestly unless you were glued to every single sentence and every single scene like I was, there's a VERY HIGH CHANCE that you missed something important
@runelt99
@runelt99 Ай бұрын
I don't have problem with main story, but my brain just shuts down when its not voice acted side quests. I will just spam click to have it out of the way asap.
@hqhuy931
@hqhuy931 Ай бұрын
the sad thing is some of the side quests were legit amazing writing and much more understandable than main quest - there's the cocolia's ancestor quest, and the recent A Good Person (queen tissot) which were amazing and tragic
@runelt99
@runelt99 Ай бұрын
@@hqhuy931 Even by skipping most, i ended up reading a little bit from the quest from girl in penacony who was forced to give up her dreams by her parents and by end of quest if you do not hold her hand, she just dies. The quest was that compelling.
@hqhuy931
@hqhuy931 Ай бұрын
@@runelt99 that quest ending was quite sad if you think about it. She didn't die, yes, and sang the song but still remained as a store clerk that sells bad products, not really escaping from the mundane - ultimately accepting that imprisonment. Lesser of evils, that's all
@ieatice
@ieatice Ай бұрын
My only big gripe with the story was the inclusion of the bartending scene with Gallagher and Siobhan (2.1) and the part where we need to go through some gameshow to reach Sunday (2.2). Those parts didnt really add much to the story and only felt like were added to promote the new 2.1 event and a 2.2 map. It just really came off as the company telling the writer(s) to include it for the sake of including it.
@RomnilWater
@RomnilWater Ай бұрын
I agree that the game show was pure padding since it didn't really add much of anything to the story (more time with Firefly was nice but we got a lot of that in 2.0 and the reintroduction of Argenti which feels out of place). The Bartending scene does make a bit more sense since it gave us information about Mikhail and did give setup for the bartender event. Did we need that setup? Probably not but it wasn't too long of a sequence.
@rowanmales3430
@rowanmales3430 Ай бұрын
@@RomnilWater I think the gameshow stuff was also included because there was basically no fighting in the 2.2 story. Some people complain about too much story and too little action, and that is "with" the gameshow mini-games/fights they put in half way.
@rikthhumayun8101
@rikthhumayun8101 Ай бұрын
I think it was required, the 2.2 gameshow part is needed just to pace you and like, not immediately drop the god sequence that was the whole final boss
@acoolnameemm
@acoolnameemm Ай бұрын
Honestly I love that Sparkle could just truly be here to fuck around and troll everyone -including the players.
@lolosh99
@lolosh99 Ай бұрын
I mean, Sparkle’s skill is literally called Red Herring so I’m not surprised if nothing happens
@mikonyx7712
@mikonyx7712 Ай бұрын
Which would result in her segment of the 2.2 story to cause nothing more than adding even more time to an already long af chapter.... Welp! let's hope it's not that!
@jonglopez5400
@jonglopez5400 Ай бұрын
​@@mikonyx7712but that is how red herring works. You already fell for it the moment you believed that something significant to story will happen when sparkle does something.
@user-wd7dh3bs3o
@user-wd7dh3bs3o Ай бұрын
@@jonglopez5400 There's a difference between a red herring and a segment added to just waste the player's time
@GGABueno
@GGABueno Ай бұрын
Would feel pretty cheap if it that is the case. The writers would be tapping themselves in the back meanwhile the players just feel cheated.
@nightshadesu2963
@nightshadesu2963 23 күн бұрын
well based on the 2.3 livestream sparkle will have a lot of significance in the next chapter
@ChaosRampant666
@ChaosRampant666 Ай бұрын
Duke inferno and his children are probably gonna be antagonist in a future arc or maybe a continuation of Penacony's story
@patrickcarter2829
@patrickcarter2829 Ай бұрын
Duke Inferno is dead (though he is an energy being, so copium). His children, however, will definitely show up eventually: Constance made a voice debut in Penacony (talking to Black Swan and giving her info on Acheron).
@mikonyx7712
@mikonyx7712 Ай бұрын
​@@patrickcarter2829 She didn't really give BS any info about Acheron, SHE ACTUALLY HID IT FROM HER BECAUSE SHE CAN MESS WITH MOMORIES
@lstinside8688
@lstinside8688 Ай бұрын
@@mikonyx7712 I believe she has something to do with Mythus and we're definitely gonna meet followers of Enigmata at some point in the story
@animo358
@animo358 Ай бұрын
Doesn't Duke Inferno have 7 kids? There are 7 playable paths. So I imagine that means He himself, will not be playable.
@Taunt_1NG_U
@Taunt_1NG_U Ай бұрын
Sunday is THE BEST name they could have chosen, it's PERFECT!!!
@lucustwyatt1960
@lucustwyatt1960 Ай бұрын
"And then it's Monday" achievement made my laughed lolz
@terrycornelius4
@terrycornelius4 Ай бұрын
Honestly part of me believes that this story serves as a way to "wake us up" because Monday will eventually come regardless if you wished every day is Sunday.
@georgidimitrov1686
@georgidimitrov1686 Ай бұрын
"They offered me a window to show you something other games could learn from" Throwing shade at Rito again, I see :D LOVE IT! :D
@shaark1tsune
@shaark1tsune Ай бұрын
my favorite part of the story was the part Acheron grabbed TB's hand mid-air, awesome reference from HI3
@miorioff
@miorioff Ай бұрын
Sadly, it's a reference only players of that game could understand
@keitokarl
@keitokarl Ай бұрын
i screamed that they used Hi3 ost during the talk with acheron before she breaks enas dream
@crow3769
@crow3769 Ай бұрын
​​@@miorioff I don't think there's anything to be sad about. If you don't know the reference, you would still enjoy it cuz it looks epic and when you find out about it later, you can't help but think "Oh wow! That's so cool!" And if you did get the reference, that would be even more awesome cuz it would feel like as a HI3 fan/player, not only did to get to see the awesome reference, but it also left you feeling joy cuz you can tell they care about HI3 and the community as well! Btw, I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm nagging! If it does, I didn't mean to do that! I'm just writing this comment reply in a really hyped mood lol
@skylight6575
@skylight6575 Ай бұрын
@@miorioffyou can enjoy it through the story and not with reference, I got shocked when Tiernan was introduced since I only got it when Acheron said “Place a bouquet of flowers”
@K3Vz0
@K3Vz0 Ай бұрын
​@miorioff it's almost like references do that🤯
@acoolnameemm
@acoolnameemm Ай бұрын
2:08 Hoyo USED to have a really good solution for this - and they have used this solution scarcely lately - its really simple. You release new version of old characters to designate character growth. They did this a lot in HI3 up to chapter 28. The cast was really small but we went through several character arcs at the same time and their growth was reflected in the gameplay in terms of new battlesuits for them to use.
@zlash1148
@zlash1148 Ай бұрын
They still do, take cold dragon young for example, but now its need story reason for them to get a new suit, not just randomly get it since the story is the main focal focus. Also new character probably sell better lol
@zlash1148
@zlash1148 Ай бұрын
They still do, take cold dragon young for example, but now its need story reason for them to get a new suit, not just randomly get it since the story is the main focal focus. Also new character probably sell better lol
@DamagedTube
@DamagedTube Ай бұрын
So far, we have DHIL, and soon March for "new version " of the existing cast.
@acoolnameemm
@acoolnameemm Ай бұрын
@@DamagedTube yeah but Dan didnt stay as DHIL. And it didnt really change his character as he already knew it, and we didnt know him long enough for us to get to know him before we got to learn the entire backstory of him and his whole race. Yeah its a new battlesuit, but its not here to stay and it didnt change his character.
@rikthhumayun8101
@rikthhumayun8101 Ай бұрын
I basically played the whole story in 1 setting (as in, over a few days) and also as a lover of Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere books I just loved the whole story It just felt like this damn story was Cosmere if you played as the interstellar character in that book
@AkuFexin
@AkuFexin Ай бұрын
Necrit: I want to branch out and talk about other games Also Necrit: Well this is a League Channel I could never talk about it unless its under the guise of a sponsorship! (Love you necrit tho, just do what you think is best!)
@Trololoc
@Trololoc Ай бұрын
I really like the direction star rail is going. 1. was kind of tame (and lame) but 2. Seems to be going the right direction. Still not at the level of HI3rd's otto and elysian realm arcs but getting pretty close
@keitokarl
@keitokarl Ай бұрын
i mean it kinda does, but the story is spread out to the environment unlike hi3, that that depends more on texts more than the gameplay in hsr its kinda mixed
@coldbread8313
@coldbread8313 Ай бұрын
​@@keitokarlit kinda obvious you can't compete with visual novel story that focus more indepth of character . But penacony story is kinda peak like Elysia realm imo.
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 Ай бұрын
I mean you gotta remember To get to otto, elysia, fu hua kinda level story First we need to go trough a good set up and build up They didnt get there in 1 year, it took them years
@insignia4321
@insignia4321 Ай бұрын
For now, I can only imagine the plot points of Sparkle, at least when referring to the button detonator, was a red herring to keep us distracted from other key moments even if just momentarily as if to keep us expecting something else.
@danha3107
@danha3107 Ай бұрын
NO SPOILERS HERE, tbh my biggest gripes with this story were just that: - you can't replay cutscenes, and - the lead-up to the final boss where you have CRUCIAL character backstory being delivered while you walk around looking for treasures and dealing with enemies has no way to scroll back if you're a slightly slow reader or not paying attention. This isn't a complex story issue, this is a "the auto-scrolling text scrolled too fast with no way to replay or stop it issue"
@kiddyoshi
@kiddyoshi Ай бұрын
glad to see u covering this, i love ur lore coverage for league and i love the lore for star rail.
@nestorasbitos3623
@nestorasbitos3623 18 күн бұрын
11:40 some say that in the story when Acheron talks and we see the subs in red colour, it means that it is Duke Inferno's influence
@curiouscommand5916
@curiouscommand5916 Ай бұрын
For all we know, Sparkle could just have been a Red Herring this entire time. Something to drive the theorists mad; Even moreso considering the various references to the concept in both her quest and her abilities. I can just imagine Aha the Elation laughing at us as we all go through our "Pepe Silvia" moments trying to piece together what shes up to. "What was she hinting at in her quest and dream? Why are there explosions in one of her trailers? Why did she send us into the childs dream? Why did she tell acheron to find robin? Why is she playing multiple sides with the factions? What are all the damn buttons for!? Who hired her in the end? Was it Gallagher or somebody else? Etc...
@keitokarl
@keitokarl Ай бұрын
i mean, sparkle found out the truth faster than we do, thats why shes giving hints theres only something shes planning to do on
@Eurasian_
@Eurasian_ Ай бұрын
Also, it was Misha who led us into the Child's Dream. If it weren't for Misha, Sparkle likely would've sent us to either Dreamscape Reverie or Dreamflux Reef.
@kuroh0241
@kuroh0241 Ай бұрын
She will have a short scene ala Sampo at the end of Penacony. That's all that will happen and I will laugh at all the people who did not get it.
@yuricecconi561
@yuricecconi561 18 күн бұрын
I think Sparkle is set up for a more in depth look at the Masked fool and also the mourning actors (the other elation followers). imo we will have a planet just for them like how we did for The Hunt. Giovanni and Sampo also factor in here, maybe we will see more of them in a dedicated event.
@_Johnny_GG
@_Johnny_GG Ай бұрын
Honestly couldn't agree more with the "princess and another Castle" analogy. Firefly and Robin are dead, drip marketing. Glaze of Xipe, happened in a dream. Fight against Ena, you need Nihility instead of Harmony on the planet of Harmony.
@keitokarl
@keitokarl Ай бұрын
yea, the ideals really clash out during sunday and robin backstory with the bird oak head shows them the bird was shown nihility then robin showed her side which leans to harmony but then you can see sunday wanted harmony but to keep everything safe, he needed order
@_Johnny_GG
@_Johnny_GG Ай бұрын
@@keitokarl 100% but that part lost a lot of significance when you findout it was all a controlled dream. The whole story really strips the player of any urgency, We just do what we're told and watch the npcs make all the moves. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i feel like you could remove the MC and nothing changes, at no point did we make any impact in the final results
@patrickcarter2829
@patrickcarter2829 Ай бұрын
​@@_Johnny_GG on the contrary, the Watchmaker's Legacy would not have been uncovered without us. We were the first people to notice Misha and Clockie: the others wouldnt until Dreamflux Reef. The other Nameless would not make it to Dreamflux Reef if they hadnt known about "Dormancy," which we found out in A Child's Dream. We were also the only one to resonate with the Harmony, which subtly swayed Sunday to action. Pretty much, The Trailblazer is an interesting interpretation of a main character: they affect the overall plot in minor, incremental ways that hold significance; rather than being the star of the show, they are moreso a guiding light.
@yubaa
@yubaa Ай бұрын
@@patrickcarter2829 to add to that, Black Swan couldn't have figured out that they were in a dream without the TB's memories. She made a point of it too; the TB was the only one who encountered the "full course" of events in Penacony.
@mikonyx7712
@mikonyx7712 Ай бұрын
But those examples of MC being "relevant" stem from a coincidences, that other characters take notes of. Rather than actual actions taken by the MC
@TheRyukeshi
@TheRyukeshi Ай бұрын
I started playing Star Rail because of Necrit and have been hooked in most of the story arcs since. Man, he needs to upload more edited reactions to Star Rail content into his 2nd channel, as watching full on 3 hour stream VODs can be difficult.
@Mastersafal3360
@Mastersafal3360 Ай бұрын
Yeah I saw the cinematic when my sister was playing it it looked amazing, I played star rail for a bit when it first came out, defo gonna play it when my exams are over
@4ainik4aevarov50
@4ainik4aevarov50 Ай бұрын
My biggest problem with the 2.2 story is that there is "too much" of it. Until the middle of it, there was only one fight, which also was very short. There is more action in the latter half, thankfully. Maybe that was a bit exaggerated by me playing through 2.2 in one sitting, but still, it felt like there was almost no downtime for the majority of the story. Especially because it was the end of the main story of Penacony, so there were many important revelations basically coming one after another
@Confirmed105
@Confirmed105 Ай бұрын
one of the great things about HSR is that the story don't even feel close to being done. This just feels like a great arc and i hope this quality of writing persists in future arcs.
@halcy7557
@halcy7557 Ай бұрын
I would love to see more HSR videos specifically about character lore and other background lore pleaseeee Necrit
@maxttk97
@maxttk97 Ай бұрын
This story became amazing only after I finished it and started thinking about it.
@lunasamoon8599
@lunasamoon8599 23 күн бұрын
To answer your question about whether or not everything before 2.2 actually happened, I think it’s yes. During your convo with Black Swan at the very end of the fakeout ending, she mentions you’re the only one who has actually personally experienced the whole course of the dream of penacony, aka you’re the protagonist so your dream is the version of events that actually took place. (Firefly flying out of the dream by supposedly dying to inform the people on the express of what’s happening is an example, since that happens during 2.2 before you go confront Sunday when you’re still in Ena’s dream) I’m not 100% sure if they’ll add more onto that in 2.3, but that’s the info we’re given currently
@LoneWolfOtaku
@LoneWolfOtaku Ай бұрын
The Elysian Realm arc from HI3 also introduces a large cast of characters that you grow to love
@postivision
@postivision Ай бұрын
imma be back once i finish 2.0 and 2.2 story , 1 min in and im already excited as a pleyr who left for idk how long now
@drpaimon2369
@drpaimon2369 Ай бұрын
2:40 but they also do that with Genshin right? At least for the past two patches. In the Fontaine teaser 10 new characters were announced all at once. And beside them Tartaglia and Skirk technically also played a part in the story.
@effortlessfury
@effortlessfury Ай бұрын
Honestly, I don't really take Necrit's Star Rail vs. Genshin comparisons seriously given that he doesn't really pay attention to Genshin's story.
@tuba1452
@tuba1452 Ай бұрын
yeah, thats precisely why fontaine is considered the best arc until now, but its still not even close to penacony. before fontaine genshin's story was such a mess, things started to get good around act 2 of sumeru, and it still wasnt *that* good. good to know they're improving tho, hoyoverse knows how to create a great story for genshin, they just dont know how to tell it.
@effortlessfury
@effortlessfury Ай бұрын
@@tuba1452 your opinion, but I vastly preferred Fontaine to Penacony. Genshin’s storytelling method is predominantly a niche that rarely is catered to, one that I love, but one that requires effort to consume. Star Rail is a much better story for those seeking to sit back and more passively consume; it is a very experiential story.
@yuricecconi561
@yuricecconi561 18 күн бұрын
@@effortlessfury wdym about Genshin catering to a rare niche? Story driven ARPGs are hardly *that* rare. I'm not trying to be demeaning I genuinely have no idea what you mean. I haven't finished the Fontaine story just yet but so far gameplay wise and story wise it doesn't seem so divergent from other story driven ARPGs. Although I would hesitate to call Genshin 'story driven' considering the lack of choices available to the player in regards to the progression of the story.
@effortlessfury
@effortlessfury 18 күн бұрын
@@yuricecconi561 there are several niches revolving around how the treadmill works given that the difficulty ceiling doesn’t really increase, but the non-gameplay related one is a story that’s set up like a solvable mystery box. Genshin keeps my interest because there are long term mysteries with many interconnected threads. There are things to think about outside of the game aside from team building. The experience of unraveling the clues over the years is the largest part of the fun for me. Also what would you call The Last of Us, which has a linear story, if not storydriven? (The illusions of) Choice is not essential to be considered storydriven, regardless of what genre you may want to slot a game into.
@Tanktaco
@Tanktaco Ай бұрын
Did 2.1 and 2.2 back to back this week. What a ride.
@forsakenwolfshadow
@forsakenwolfshadow Ай бұрын
are you going to do more videos on the lore of star rail? I personally dont like gatcha games but the art is beautiful and would love to know the story since a lot of my friends love it ♥
@FinalHarps
@FinalHarps Ай бұрын
Bro, you had a bug at 00:46. The second mark went up on your screen on the top left, which freaked me out, and I thought the bug went in my phone case
@esaualfaro3447
@esaualfaro3447 Ай бұрын
I have a very big problem with Penacony story... While yes, all the characters played major roles, and every character had very cool moments on their own... when you combine all the pieces, the overall story isn´t really that cool or impactful. All the characters are doing stuff, but since they all are moving their own direction, the story itself feels like it doesn´t move at all. I believe that´s why the "Your princess is in another Castle" syndrome is SO strong here. It might be a personal thing too, but all those plot twists were exhausting and lead nowhere. And I didn´t like at all how everything was just a "dream".
@sanane5902
@sanane5902 Ай бұрын
First of all I'm in love with the fact they used absolutely everything what I mean by everything They even used the card that we were the part of almost everything happened and played with it Second of all Genshin realized that doesn't work in inazuma(even tho they also kinda used it because yae miko come out like 6 versions later after we see her in story) since everyone hated it and story gets better in sumeru and Fontaine which they did the same thing Third of all yes hoyo works on things a lot earlier than release for example they started working on shneznaya when inazuma released when release dates gets closer theyll do things faster etc And on their characters probably like more than a year From leaks we understand their rough kits their role etc is decided EXTREMELY early on like we got sparkles aventurines kit etc in 1.1 or maybe even earlier and every character has a ton of concept arts like nahidas concept arts leaked last year along with every Fontaine character and one special character I won't even name and you guys get the point I guess
@adrianvaduva5674
@adrianvaduva5674 23 күн бұрын
Just found out about this game about 1 month ago and I am so hooked. I knew about genshin and tried it but for some reason i couldn't get into it even though I love adventure games and fantasy in general. However, Honkai star rail was love at first sight. I put around 150 hours into persona 5 royal and i consider it one of my favorite games ever, Honkai really reminded me of persona. Love the characters, mechanics, visuals and sound. Really a complete game Glad you are enjoying it as well
@velionya
@velionya Ай бұрын
i would love to see a several hour long rundown of penacony's entire story after 2.3 drops, theres so much i feel like im missing
@nemasisdemarini8339
@nemasisdemarini8339 Ай бұрын
They explained about Ena's dream, when we learned that we were in it. They explicitly say that, up until the fight with Sunday, pretty much everything went the way that we saw. It's just, after the fight began, our memory of the events was altered slightly. Meaning, at most, if something was different, it would generally be something relatively inconsequential. Which would make sense, since having our memories effected to too high of a degree would obviously just lead to us waking up. That's literally why Robin woke up, after all. Something was different enough, that she pretty much immediately started to think something was off.
@zardon_zane1630
@zardon_zane1630 Ай бұрын
12:00 I liked that to be honest XD, I thought we were getting the cliche enemy team, he got setup with a full quest and they disappeared since Nihility Emanator is a beast!!
@ironheadedDoF
@ironheadedDoF Ай бұрын
Congrats on gaining a sponsorship, Necrit !!!! You need back pay, for your reaction to seeing the train and hearing the music.
@anphony3760
@anphony3760 19 күн бұрын
I disagree on the princess is in another castle argument, because that would be moving the goal post, the only time that actually happens is in the first fight against sunday, but that was for a cool plot twist and an even more satisfying ending. Our goal from the beginning was the watchmakers legacy and to know about the other nameless, other than that we got a lot of questions being asked and then being answered, usually before moving on to a next one, sometimes multiple questions were up in the air. The actual objective of getting the watchmakers legacy and knowing about the nameless is only completed near the end before facing the final boss.
@OddC00kie9
@OddC00kie9 Ай бұрын
Hey Necrit, Any chance you can dive into Wuthering Waves?
@thefrozensoul181
@thefrozensoul181 Ай бұрын
One thing that has not been mentioned is the music that accompanies while the story develops and its amaizing. It happened to us the first time we fought Cocolia with "Wildfire" and we just got served again with the boss fight of the version with "Hope is the thing with feathers". It acompanies whats happening on the screen at every moment and its not something every game succeeds in.
@daniel336600
@daniel336600 Ай бұрын
Never thought of it like that it did make it interesting and we knew what we was getting with new ones popping in
@6Jx1chi
@6Jx1chi Ай бұрын
Please make more Star Rail lore videos; it's sometimes hard to grasp for me so a summary by you would be so good tbh!
@hikkun_ch
@hikkun_ch Ай бұрын
We know that 2.3 is gonna focus on the IPC and will involve those without much spotlight until now: Sparkle, Boothill, Ratio, Aventurine, Topaz and Jade. Sparkle was hired by someone, so she has some sort of mission in Penacony. The buttons could really be explosives, but my guess is that it will be used as a misdirection! So Sparkle can rob one of the cornerstones, an item that was heavily showed during this arc! Maybe the contractor even being part of Oswaldo's faction to disrupt Diamond´s in a internal conflict.
@FDeeKay
@FDeeKay Ай бұрын
You want more insane writing? Try Nasu Kinoko's storytelling in Fate Grand Order or other fate franchise involving Nasu Kinoko as the writer
@meihara9415
@meihara9415 Ай бұрын
Also if you played HI3rd, you get some additional kicks out of the story. Acheron's alternative was a main actor in that story too, and you got a small flashback (picture with horns) which here is merely a backstory piece. Yet if you know her.. other version I guess, then it hurt you so bad, because you knew the full story that happened there. And how that could have turned out in this universe. BTW remember when there was this "the legendary writer of honkai impact wrote penacony story" thing.. This is why he is legendary.
@_Eisley
@_Eisley 28 күн бұрын
About the new characters overshadowing old characters, hoyoverse took care of that problem in HI3. They keep releasing the same characters in different forms and battlesuits. I do think they are also gonna do that in star rail, look at inhibitor lunae. Maybe not as much as HI3, but it is great to see already known characters stronger and in different forms
@worldeater2414
@worldeater2414 Ай бұрын
I know it doesn't mean much coming from a completely random person you don't know and who doesn't know you, but I am immensely proud of you Necrit for how successful you are and how far you have come from your days as just another KZfaq channel.
@VamVami
@VamVami Ай бұрын
I feel Sparkle is literally Red Herring, that we need to focus on her expecting something, but actually she does nothing much?
@derandi
@derandi Ай бұрын
Yeah I have high hopes for 2.3, I hope I don't get disappointed too much. I was really wowed, but Sparkle and IPC (my money is on Jade) need a grand finish to make it a grand success!
@OPGMitaki
@OPGMitaki Ай бұрын
14 minutes of straight facts. Unlike all these impulsive complainers, Necrit really knows how to understand and point out bad parts of a story and give it advice for improvement, as well as point out and expand the reasoning behind the amazing/good parts Love people like this Even more amazing when someone influential mentions things you've thought about yourself for a long time
@123FireSnake
@123FireSnake Ай бұрын
11:27 well they'll be delirious anyways from the all-nighter :D
@nikx
@nikx Ай бұрын
I‘m sad that about duke Inferno, too, but it was a great pre story twist setup. I really thought Everflame mansion would be the antagonist, but then none of them even showed up. The dukes children are at least set up as potential antagonists in the future.
@MrDrobotor
@MrDrobotor Ай бұрын
Waiting now for lore videos from Necrit
@ZennikoCallisto12
@ZennikoCallisto12 Ай бұрын
lots of people that actually calling penacony a PEAKACONY, cuz the story is really at peak rn
@keitokarl
@keitokarl Ай бұрын
its either Peakacony and Painagony
@honguyenhoaibao3676
@honguyenhoaibao3676 Ай бұрын
I prefer Pinnacleny
@taigashizuma3556
@taigashizuma3556 Ай бұрын
when will we finish tatalogs story?
@4stryx
@4stryx Ай бұрын
I agree. I'm still waiting for Sparkle to ... 'go with a bang' for the next patch. Not to mention, there are still mysteries that need to be solved. Like Gopher Wood still has something big, right? And also the sub plot with the Boothill and Aventurine.
@ethel7368
@ethel7368 Ай бұрын
my fav part was pom pom say's "muddle fudger?"
@clarinet800149
@clarinet800149 26 күн бұрын
2.3 is the epilogue. Sparkle closure is definitely coming… and I’m scared
@heytgp
@heytgp Ай бұрын
Necrit with the most logical and constructive criticism as always. Penacony is indeed PEAK writing.
@malvarez3611
@malvarez3611 Ай бұрын
Now the question is, are there gonna be more videos about hsr?
@OfficialNeonScratch
@OfficialNeonScratch Ай бұрын
I DID NOT KNOW you talk about HSR, I enjoyed your League / Runeterra lore talks but didn't expect you to talk about HSR.
@Klmreyes0947
@Klmreyes0947 Ай бұрын
I believed the story of penacony will be concluded (or not) at "pier point" , the place was already hinted from topaz's character quest when she got demoted and was asked by aventurine to "help" him at penacony, solidifying aventurine's cunning mind and intuition, predicting possible outcomes that can help him get what he want. At this point i even think they're using Jade as a cover-up for Diamond in the future as a possible character in the future chapters. After this I feel like were going back to belobog (at one point), because of sampo's twisted dream of what's happening to belobog. The HSR Team is still cooking penacony and i'm here for it!
@feyukaidesu3239
@feyukaidesu3239 Ай бұрын
Just to share, I saw a video in shorts while scrolling (ctto). As said in one of the comments, the Masked Fool are summarized as the side characters helping the main mc but varies on how they do it. The buttons Sparkle was distributing were actually a way to wake up everyone from Ena's dream if the charmony festival continued incase the Trailblazer failed to stop Sunday. Idk how much of this is true but it could be a possibilty that she was just enjoying the fun of everything going into chaos before doing something. Aha move I say
@Valla0
@Valla0 Ай бұрын
Necrit if you want another game with a fantastic story I would recommend checking out Nikke, sure the ads make it look like trash but the story is fantastic and worth checking out just for that.
@MM-sb1jn
@MM-sb1jn Ай бұрын
Still think penacony was great until the second half of the finale. Everything that was great suddenly went downhill real quick when a lot of built up materials got written off for the convenience of the trailblazer "hero of the day" moment which also made so many great details became redundant. The introduction of the final antagonist and his power also feels lacking and forced. Ena who logically shouldn't exist still exist and somehow Sunday and the master knew about her; Sunday ideology and setting basically is dr.maruki from p5 but worse in explaining, executing his character, mindset and the moment of realization. Then the most disappointed thing is boothill role to the story, he's great, I like him, but he is in the same state as indiana jones in the lost ark movie (wont say in detail to not spoil the movie)
@gio87vr
@gio87vr Ай бұрын
I loove, LOOVE overcomplex stories, Penacony was really right up my alley. I loved the multiple layers of realities and the beautiful exploring experience in the 3D rooms too.
@ViolentEuthymia
@ViolentEuthymia Ай бұрын
I love star rail and this channel. hope this video does well and you cover it more :3
@welie2082
@welie2082 Ай бұрын
You have no clue how much I want to see you cover the lore:))))
@bustercallPrime
@bustercallPrime Ай бұрын
Great summary of the new story :)
@TheWanHui
@TheWanHui Ай бұрын
7:56 - 8:00 Truer words have never been spoken
@TheSuriel
@TheSuriel Ай бұрын
Kinda wished a lot more folks from belobog would have appeared in the Penacony arc. It just feels like the whole arc never happened when you get into. Would love to see Serval doing a concert with Robin for one thing. I think those buttons Sparkle gave was set up to wake everyone up in case they got to a point of no return in the dream but never really went into play. As I said any good written story EVERYTHING has a purpose even if it seems pointless at the start. genshin does this well too like how why your main character is always collecting books
@jackthejester6841
@jackthejester6841 Ай бұрын
Its heavily theorized or might actually be a fact that the nuke buttons Sparkle handed out was a backup plan should everyone fail on stopping Sunday, after all she advises that the buttons are pressed at the start of the charmony festival, when Sunday's plan reaches its peak Which also implies that she was most likely found out about Ena's dream the earliest, guiding people around to find out themselves
@Nabbitman
@Nabbitman Ай бұрын
13:37 - 13:53 most likely the HOTTEST take from the Star Rail community ever, but this is also how I feel towards Robin. Yeah she mostly tried to discover what’s up with the deaths as confirmed in 2.1 with her note to Sunday, but she just kinda was….there….and was still given this gigantic spotlight. We meet her at the hotel, learn she has a sore throat, helps us get used to the dream world, and then the next time we see her, she’s a “corpse”. She isn’t in 2.1, granted she was meant to be “dead” but in 2.2, we see she’s helping kids brighten up by singing to them, and tried to help Sunday see how horrible a dreamlike reality is, only to fail when out of nowhere, Sunday is revealed to be an agent of Order (yes I know it was a destiny thing but we don’t get any kind of closure or reason as to WHY Sunday chose to walk this path as far as I’m aware). And then she gets captured, AGAIN, and then reappears in the TRUE final boss during the second phase to help the heroes wake everyone up. Again, I could be missing on some things but I genuinely think Robin had a gigantic spotlight on her despite the fact she didn’t earn it compared to people like Acheron or Black Swan or Gallagher. Compare that to Misha, a character who was more or less just in the background throughout the story, only to be revealed that Misha is the Watchmaker himself, Mikhail Char Legwork as a memory zone meme. It was so well because of the subtle hints from the Child’s Dream section along with the multiple mentions of this Mikhail person who we know only by name. I feel like Misha knocked it out of the park as a background character compared to Robin. And this is all my opinion along with my memory of what happened so I could be wrong about some things. Feel free to roast me about how your Waifu did in fact do something during Penacony. Looking at you Tectone.
@egregar
@egregar Ай бұрын
The whole bit about sunday choosing the order instead of the harmony was because of robin. He was stuck between the two dangled ideas of harmony and order as they are quite similar. He eventually chose the order because of robin’s excursion to the war-torn planet. Freedom gave her the very real possibility to kill herself so sunday went the route of less freedom for safety.
@Nabbitman
@Nabbitman Ай бұрын
@@egregar ok. But when did that happen? What flash back or conversation did I somehow just not pay attention too?
@goustwonderz3303
@goustwonderz3303 29 күн бұрын
Sparkle's placement was mostly to exposition the idea of a "Retired Masked Fool who's preparing for something big", and if ya guys missed it...ooh boy... Shaoji is a god at writing stories, its no understatement that the whole hype for the Honkai-verse is singlehandedly carried by him. The day Necrit dives deep enough might never come, but I can assure you that if you are loving Penacony, everywhere miHoYo has made waves, Shaoji is involved: Because Of You and Final Lesson to name a few.
@Billy_Bat1993
@Billy_Bat1993 Ай бұрын
When i think about Star Rail story i always remember One Piece story telling structure. Myhoyo really inspired by Eichiro Oda's Magnum Opus when they create Star Rail. Interstellar trailblazer journey to different world's? Checked. Main cast of crew members characters? Checked. Big cast of characters, fractions with they're own agenda's and motives? Checked. Story plot's set up for futures ark's? Checked. So.... Star Rail just space opera One Piece.
@Xophien
@Xophien Ай бұрын
I think Sparkle has been introduced here for future stories and was never going to play a huge part in Penacony. More than the buttons, it's her shapeshifting abilities that have been unexploited and have HUGE potential for the future. Introducing her early in a story where she doesn't actually have any active role to play will pay off down the line, when there's an arc with the spotlight on the Masked Fools. That, or she's just trolling. At this point, we can expect anything, but I think she's never gonna give us up.
@F4keOfficial
@F4keOfficial Ай бұрын
1.0 was amazing, Wilfire will always be unique because that's the first time every new player experience how cool HSR can be but Penacony managed to make the best story of all the game
@onigiriboi7273
@onigiriboi7273 Ай бұрын
Tbh I really do agree with the point brought up about sparkle but at the same time I wouldn’t be surprised if her button was just a red herring since she is a masked fool. It would be disappointing but that’s just what people who follow the path of elation do
@obscureglitch1815
@obscureglitch1815 Ай бұрын
The new story was great in star rail
@astic5051
@astic5051 Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed the whole story but it did get a bit confusing a few times
@nogard0497
@nogard0497 Ай бұрын
With all of these plot devices, and most of them being stuck in that dream, I feel like they can still miss the mark entirely for tying up these loose ends in 2.3. I don’t know (and doubt) if it will leave us as unsatisfied as the Luofu, but hopefully they got big plans to sum everything up
@deldalus
@deldalus Ай бұрын
only problem that 2.2 story turned me down was game show part. I was drained so much by that and cannot as much hype on plot twist+final battle. my body and brain was like "whatever just end it please" at that point. It was my bad idea to do this story in one-go/not taking a break in between as well.. but I had only one day off so it is what it is.. I know game show part was relaxing/cooling-off part between story-heavy part, but man those are super long especially when you're not choosing the battle arena (but by choosing them you'll also unable to hear voiced dialogue from performance arena. so it's time vs immersion.. pick your poison). A "proper" date with Firefly was great but imo they can just do that later in companion quest or whatever. its not suppose to be at that moment where our team has to confront Sunday ASAP. I guess I had to blame March7th for it was her idea in the first place to do this in order to get to final zone :/
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