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He must’ve not had his coffee

It is highly implied that Preserves operate outside the time. What may be the solution to this issue.

I thought I'd messed something up with KZfaq until I saw the lipsync was still on.

To err is human, not Vulcan. So it's just proof of one fewer first contact.

I love how casually it was just slipped in there. :D

Brilliant!!!!

@@TesseractUnfolded I hear it often since the special. I think in a decades know one will know anymore that it wasn't always mavity gg

how is a reference to a scientific phenomenon a crossover?

@@dannygmtg Who knows. Something to do with a Doctor.

Yep. That nod to I Love Lucy was clearly intentional.

Just here to feed the visibility algorithm.

They should have brought back Mestral latter in Enterprise during the Capenter Street episode.

This is the comment I searched for. Admiral Ball on the bridge! ❤

I love her and that's the main reason.

And lest we forget, Spock in 1968.

@@VictorReynolds Right, alongside whatever Isis was. And of course then there was Tallin in 2024, probably a few more members of that organization, and a Borg queen. Looks like in the Star Trek universe the UFO nuts were right; pre-contact Earth was positively lousy with aliens.

not just Jadzia, but there was also ANOTHER Dax on the planet at the same time! she used the same bank account, took a while to convince the bank she was the same person. also, it was mentioned with the Devidians, but Guinan! she didn't get her own mention!

You mentioned the Megans, but don't forget about Kukulkán!

Kira also visited earth of the past while searching for Daz Sisko and Bashir in past tense.

Hear! Hear! I didn't even know about that until watching this vid, so: yay!

He also made an appearance in one of the Spider Man movies.

@@emsleywyatt3400, wait what? Need more details?

Um. Which episode was that? I somehow completely missed it until it was pointed out in the video.

no question.

@WaitTryFail Still wish that'd been a show.

@@noneofurbusiness5223 I watched that recently and the entire episode seemed like the setup for a spinoff. Is that what it was actually planned to be?

Yes, but obviously, it wasn't picked up. I think it would've been GREAT! Would also have the added production benefit of not needing to pay for expensive sets of alien worlds or ships. @@joannesmith2484

@@joannesmith2484 yes

there was also Gary Seven's Cat - Isis.

Good catch.

He was wearing a collar even then, if you look closely enough.

@STSWB5SG1FAN ok yeah, but look at the difference in the spikes. They're bigger and there are a lot more.

Well, yes but 30+ years are supposed to have elapsed between Kirk Thatcher's characters meetings with Spock and 7/9.

I didn't notice that. That's a nice detail though. The writers knew what they were doing that day.

Little green men

There was a short clip of that at the very beginning. No mention though.

@@darrengriffin8609 The clip was in the context of another list of Alien Encounters before First Contact. I assume planning is underway for the second video!

The Ferengui were still Ferencommandline when Roswell happened. Thinking about it, they were probably Ferenpunchcard.

Love the Doctor reference. "Wild Blue Yonder" was a great and really creepy Dr. Who special.

I do enjoy the DW refence but I refuse to acknowledge any more "mavity" references hahah

How did he deal with Pon Farr ?

I believe that is a perfectly logical explanation.

I think we know how he handled pon farr. There were probably a few Vulcan/human hybrids on Earth after Mistral decided to stay. Unless of course he used protection!

Nobody has to know he's impotent. DON'T SAY THAT WORD.

​@@rickjohnston2667That sound irresponsible: how would such hybrid children get any medical care with their unusual (by human standards) anatomy ?

As far as we know, Flint wasn’t an alien he was just an exceptionally long-lived human

You are right. I forgot about that point. Thanks!

City on the Edge of Forever

Gary Seven wasn't an alien, but Isis was. Also, we see Gary Seven's Job revisited in Picard, Season 2 with a Romulan. We also see a Romulan trying to kill Khan in SNW.

Great picks.

But I'm sure Trip thought the word 'story' near a lie as his mother probably said many times in his life, "you better not be telling me a story (lie)"! Maybe, T'Pol should've brought her 2nd foremother's purse with her on her next meal in the Cpt.'s dining room.

Was there a connection between Menos-one of the 2 men T'Pol was after on Risa in 'The 7th'-and the Xindi and the bottles of green stuff?

Vulcans do not tease. There is no logic in a job done half thoroughly.

So why did she tell Trip-after their exploration in 'Harbinger'-that she was using him as a 'lab rat'? Lt. Saavik also used David Marcus in a similar way (in the novel-maybe she read T'Pol's journals at Starfleet). Some logic.

And probably took a few takes.

Agreed. Carbon Creek is the perfect comfort food.

My issue with most people's interpretation is the assumption he would die before first contact. Vulcans live a long time and Nastral as at most middle age; he would likely survive well over 100 years on earth. In my head he just walks into the vulcan embassy and is quietly taken back to vulcan (no need to freak out the emotional humans).

@@ccibinel I'm too freaked out!

@@ccibinel Depends on where he was when WW3 started.

@@danspawn85 True but tuckers doubts about what happened to him when he died wouldnt assume that. Many died but still only 5-10% of the population at most

I love how Mavity has become a sorta inside joke for Doctor Who fans.

2063.

@@davidnaas8366 right, of course.

He arrived in Bozeman in 2061, then spent two years wondering 'Where the hell are they?'

That was the first thing I thought of. Redjac had to be operating at least as early as the 19th century. He might have arrived earlier if the victims weren’t discovered or in remote areas that were not keeping records. He had subsequent attacks noticed in later years, leaving after a century of activity on earth.

I thought North Star would be on the list. Maybe it will be on the next list.

My favorites were on this list. (Carbon Creek, The 37's) Maybe the less loved will be on a second. There seems to be several.

Yes, the skagarrans.

Absolutely! North Star is one of my favorite Enterprise episodes! The original "cowboys versus Aliens!" Totally Trek story!

I even wrote a sequel to North Star. Archer returns and finds the humans are on the verge of civil war, because McReady is President and wants to abolish laws that discriminate against the Skagarrans, but his former Deputy Bennings is forming a Ku Klux Klan-type political organization opposed to MacReady and his policies.

I would also love to know what his status was, but considering that Vulcans live in average of three times the average life expectancy of a human in that decade, unfortunately even if you fell in love with someone and spent their life with them, they would die while he was still a relatively young man. He could spend the next person's life with them and the next person and maybe get old and gray and die with them the third time around. However considering that Vulcan emotions when they are not being fully suppressed or significantly stronger than humans, his grief if he was not practicing his emotional suppression may have overwhelmed him.

​@@amandamatheny3675Mestral and The Doctor would have made a nice team. Or, in-universe, Mestral and Gary Seven.

As was Pelia.

@@MudSluggerBP Yep.

He was a producer on the film. Which is to say that he invested some money in it.

Everytime I hear or see something about Roswell, I laugh. It's one of my favorite Ferrengi episodes.

Please God, don't bring up that clusterf*ck of a TNG episode... 🤮🤮🤮

Or to Star Trek. That whore.

Is this real? 😂

@@IreneWY According to tv tropes

Or perhaps he took a ride back to Vulcan after 2063. If he was in his 60s or 70s he would be less than 200 by that time

Given the increasing death toll of WW3 in later and later references to it I suspect he did die, but I’d like to think he survived and tried to help rebuild. That these aliens he lived with were going through the same thing Vulcans did (and in a way had their own Romulans by way of Khan’s Augment exiles) and they also simply needed to be shown a better way. Maybe he helped establish First Contact directly or indirectly by somehow helping human science along the way, knowing the Vulcans were watching and what their schedule would be.

I want to know how he managed his Pon Farr, how he obtained healthcare and how generally he hid his Vulcan physiology for so long. Were there other Vulcans on Earth at that time ? If there were, how would he contact them ?

How about Guinan living in San Francisco in the 19th Century?

It was a practical effect. They could rig the can to flatten, but rigging every blade of grass would be a bit much.

Who says there won't be a part 2?

Methuselah was apparently on earth for many centuries.

Basically, I want a Star Trek Phoenix spinoff

Just add a couple more grands.

My thoughts exactly

@@danieloneal7137 I envision an elderly Mestral goes back to Vulcan to pass on his 100 years of research about humans. He would be the foremost authority on humanity and his research would be mandatory reading for any Vulcan being deployed to earth.