Of course, Data and the wheel share a common ancestor, but for him to devolve into a wheel makes as much sense as Barclay devolving into a spider. If anything, he would devolve into a transistor. 😉

LMAO love it love it... at first was like huh ?? data de-evolve... that was good quick mind thanx friend 🙏🙂🖖V3

@@sinisterintelligence3568 lol, there were too many good times…we made a book to record these moments! My other fave ST comment was another roommate saying, “On Star Trek, when all else fails, it must be those damn aliens!”😂

@@clarissathompson Sounds like you were on a 5 Blunt Mission hehehe

he is basically, a walking computer, so I think he would de-evolve, into an abacus. or maybe his brain, would start running on windows 95 (internet edition). Or, a TRS-80, with MS-DOS. LMAO

it's loud , isn't it? (edit - spelling)

WHAT? I COULDN'T HEAR YOUR QUESTION OVER THAT LOUD SHIRT. I THINK MY EYES ARE DEAF. THANK YOU STEVE! I'M SURE I'D HAVE LOVED THE VIDEO!

I am liking that shirt just wish it was short sleeved. I do not do long sleeves. 😀

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WHAT?! I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THAT SHIRT!

I side with sfdebris that the best time for that is the episode where neelix gets the disease that turns you into an atom bomb.

There were a few episodes where Seven would point out that sort of stuff early on, but then she caught whatever strange thing afflicted the rest of Voyager.

Brannon Braga also doesn't actually understand Star Trek.

When it first aired, I refused to believe any group or individual could misunderstand basic science like this. I preferred to believe the writers were actively trolling us. It was a bet to see just how many ridiculous mockeries of real education they could get in a single episode.

To paraphrase SFDebris: "Brannon, how can you run a science fiction show,when you apparently don't understand neither science nor fiction?"

Eh I'm all for criticizing that particular man, but TOS had issues with it too.

These 'evolution' episodes where all written by one person? My theory that someone was trying to sneak 'creationism' into Star-trek isn't as flimsy as it should be....

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

That and android.

No DNA?

Data clearly evolved from an arch linux desktop.

I would've liked that. After all, it is often emphasized how much Data is alike a human. If you poke him, doesn't he bleed? And he is "fully functional"

Yes

Agreed

@@killwalker If you played it at 1.75 normal it was a lot better paced.

Wasn't that the point?

I agree. I enjoyed the send-up of Dawkins, but it didn't work as a prolonged framing for the main content. They didn't complement each other.

Should've had him devolve into Homo Florensis so it's just River behaving normally, but Frakes has to walk around on his knees the whole episode. I can imagine a few quips from riker about how he can't reach the consoles anymore only for data to remind him he at least still has his mental faculties. Then they hear Worf coming down the hall and Riker just looks up at Data and says "pick me up, and start running."

An honorable notion should go to the "inofficial" finale (end of Fourth season with one more season being added as an afterthought) of Babylon 5 with the various futures, including one "a million years in the future" where humans have become the new energy beings, very close to the vorlons like Ambassador Kosh.

read All Tomorrows for a cool story about human evolution where evolution is depicted as the horrifically blind process it really is (and also humans are modified by an alien species that hates us, but hey, that’s evolution too)

It’s a specific famous misogynist busybody who took being right about the lack of any gods existing to mean his other beliefs are beyond question. P-Bo is a reference to a less prominent associated one who was about being a doofus at the time this video came out

If you are thinking Spooky You are surely mixing things up with The X Files, and Spooky Mulder, of course .

The process Pokemon go through is actually metamorphosis, but the Japanese version didn't use the right term apparently because of an unfortunate homonym (the word for 'metamorphosis' can also be read as 'perversion', the word for 'evolution' can also be read as 'progress').

@@jy3n2 Wait, I knew that henkai and hentai sounded the same, but not that hentai ALSO meant metamorphosis!

there is a word for it and it's "Metamorphosis"

the bit is torturous but in the best of ways

@@robynkolozsvari I actually thought it was a good gag, I just think it went on for way too long. I think the video would've been better if it went back to a normal format once the gag was done.

@@StormsparkPegasus Being verbose and going on for too long is kind of Dawkins thing, so the bit is fitting.

All hail the Hypno Toad!

Sorry to ask , who is he?

@@sunnybecky81 author of The God Delusion (atheist book) and The Selfish Gene (evolution book where he coins the word meme.)

Haha. Love it. Him and hitchenson really sour people on atheism. Oh And Maher. Atheism as guise for islamaphobia and misogyny. Blech.

Dawkins. I thought he was burning Thunderf00t

@@sunnybecky81 The former Mr Layla Ward.

@@jasonknott6787 Seriously. I saw headlines about that and I was like "Yeah, no shit, of course our ancestors boned neanderthals."

I like to fantasize about that.

​@@jasonknott6787 I think there are -- but most of them choose cosmetic surgery to blend in with the society they live in. (I do have an alternative theory that relies on taking ST technobabbly serious, though.) Long version: Altering the "shit on the forehead" seems to be a pretty trivial procedure, and in "Sub Rosa" (five episodes before "Genesys") Beverly talks about having changed her eye color the same casual way one would talk about, say, dyeing one's hair. So it's definitively possible that most hybrids (especially 2nd generation and later) would alter their appearance. Personally, I've always wondered if those cosmetic alterations are pretty commonplace in ST why we don't see more people with "obvious" bodymods, just like some people today have blue hair, piercings or a tattoo. Imo, it's pretty strange that everyone in ST chooses to look like they'd fit right into a 1990s TV family show. Literally every human in ST, including villains and edgy teenagers, seems to go for the same beauty ideal (a mixture of "effortless-looking natural beauty" and a Barbie/Ken doll aesthetic) for some reason. Maybe people in the future feel more pressured to fit into a very confined niche, depending on the planet they come from... definitively would explain why there are so many planets of hats where everyone has the same character concept. Or maybe the Eugenic Wars have caused a social taboo against visible bodymods. Alternatively, maybe people who have a wild mixture of Andorian, Klingon, Reman, Spider-Person, Salt Vampire and Tribble genes just naturally resemble earth humans. After all, the human form is the "average" form of humanoids according to canon (this is the reason why 99% of all people look *exactly* like humans) whereas the "shit on the forehead", telepathic powers etc are adaptions to extreme environments. Maybe those adaptions eventually cancel each other out or are surpressed by the "normal human" bits that all of those species seem to carry... bc for each "spider gene" our hypothetical hybrid *could* end up with there are at least 5 "non-altered" versions of the same gene. In fact, some genes may only "activate" in conjuction with other genes, so maybe the chance that our hybrid is basically indistinguishable from an earth human is even higher. (This is somewhat realistic and even more likely in the ST universe where supposed "junk DNA" can spontaneously do some really *crazy* and unpredictable stuff when they respond to seemingly random stimuli.)

@@jasonknott6787 "After all, if history teaches us anything, it's that if humans can have sex with something, they definitely will. " Not sure what history you've been studying, but from what I've read, Bestiality (which is what you're proposing here*) is, was, and always has been an exceptionally niche practice. It's not like there have been cultures where fucking, say, Chimpanzees (our closest living relative), or Dogs (probably our closest animal associates) has been normal, and the "all the people from 'over there' lose their virginity to a sheep/goat/donkey" stories always turn out to be bullshit. I'll concede that humans have bred with things that were, to all intents and purposes, very-nearly-almost-human-but-not-quite (other sapiens, and we have no idea whether the two groups regarded each other as 'people' or not), and will in all likelihood end up having sex with machines that are virtually indistinguishable from humans (think Replicants), but we've no serious history of attempting to breed with other species, outside of a handful of very disturbed individuals. *sleeping with, or having children with, a human from a radically different country, culture and background is literally just doing it with another human.

@@jasonknott6787 Because prosthetics for all extras are expansive :P

Also, I used to have that shirt, but I got better.

It's the evolution equivalent of that clip from Limitless where the cop/fbi agent/whatever holds up a computer power supply and says "We got his hard drive". It straddles the line somewhere between "the average audience member won't notice" and "I dare you to put that in and see if Berman catches it" without realising Rick Berman was too busy harassing the female cast members to notice the science in the script being wrong.

Thanks for selling me the shirt so cheaply, by the way.

@@PZMyersBiology Wait, he is parodying ~you~? What's with 14:13 then? I thought that was a reference to Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris? ETA: finally got to the end XD

I always wonder how things like this got made - how many people had to read this script before it was filmed? The director, the producers, the actors - and yet somehow this absolute rubbish made it onto the screen.

YES! That would be so awesome! Can you do this Steve?

Not sure they'd have much of anything to disagree on.

this would be amazing

Omg, yes. Steve. Do this.

I would actually say the 60’s wants it shirt back to be traded for some drugs at Woodstock. ✌🏼

Or Hunyboye, as the case may be

I so loved that joke, and the prolonged pause as he waited for laughter.

There are lots of things wrong with being a Calvinist. Even if you are not Mother Nature. One of the most reproachable forms of evangelical reformation humans have come up with yet.

@JohnnyTheWolf And Hobbes himself would have likely been a Calvinist in his youth I think I might tell The Professor that She kind of is.

I don't remember, but I think the original translation was more akin to "metamorphosis" than "evolution."

I was the target age for Pokémon when it came out and understood it was just being silly for fun... maybe people are dumber than I hope

I can live with fiction taking such liberties, but there are "doctors" that try to explain YEC is more reasonable cause Evoltuion "teaches pokemon concepts"... Hovind is one of the most annoying examples of this with his blob lying in waiting for 100 million years to then decide spontaneously to become a dog and being sad that no female dog decided to evolve for them. And while the Charlatans selling this crap may not actually believe it their brainwashed followers accept it unquestioningly...

@@10000spidersinatrenchcoat It also was a game mechanic that works pretty well. Digimon did even one better, turning most of the "evolutions" into a reversible thing just for the action climax "powerboost" necessary for the narrative structure so the spectacular effects were usable many many times (okay it also kind of sucks that so much was reused all the time, buying time like the transformations in most of the Senshi team style series from Sailor Moon to Power Rangers) Still it should be painfully obvious that this has got nothing to do with biological evolution in any respect...

Pokemon evolving isnt evolution, its basically metamorphasis. Pokemon ahould have called it that

A month later and i still get the love? Thanks brother 😀 How stoked are you for ST:Picard?

It's the sort of item that would have made an old tube-style TV set buzz. I am in envy, sir.

I can't describe how much I love that line!

That was kinda confusing. Dawkins was always weird, he never seemed able to distinguish between metaphorical and literal statements. But when he was younger he wasn't offensively weird.

I watched this just shortly after Steve's episode on why he no longer identifies as part of the "New Atheist" community.

paul clayton to be fair, all humanoids in trek were placed there by a founding species which existed millions of years ago using their own genome. So it isn’t entirely out of the question.

I think Enterprise mentioned gene therapy for Humans and Vulcans after T'Pol and Trip's child dies. I haven't seen that episode in years, though. Could be wrong.

I mean, I always ascribed to this being made possible by future tech and medical practices...?

@@DayneGodwin same was implied way before when people pointed out spock's existence is --- illogical.

@@tonoornottono Yep. They did give canonical answer to the problem, showing that their science advisors did earn their money.

This is one reason why the Prime Directive has merit (which is not to say it should be sacrosanct).

That's a fascinating point!

@@logiciananimal Or the Federation could just go back and tell them. The Prime Directive only makes some sense if we engage in Starfleet's "hit it and quit it" style interventionism.

And while we might explain this as "Oh, well they're a technologically advanced species, so they'll always have a record of this", but for how long? We humans in real life are a technologically advanced species, yet the mountain where the US stores its nuclear waste has signs written in several languages so that if generations thousands of years in the future find it, they would stay away from it. To sum it up: "This is a message from us who considered ourselves a powerful culture. This is not a place of honour, no great deed commemorated, nothing of value in store. What's in here is repulsive to us and was dangerous to us as it is to you. It is a place to be shunned"

the one with the clowns had to be the worst, I couldn't even finish that episode

@JohnnyTheWolf Voyager is usually at its best when it embraces the ridiculous.

@sinwithagrin When and where was Olly transphobic or antisemitic?

sinwithagrin That sounds so hilariously contrary to reality that one would be inclined to imagine that your words are parroting some nonsense retweet rather than a realistic conclusion reached from a misapprehension of things he’s said or done.

Pokemon mostly just uses the word "evolution" to describe metamorphosis; which probably sounds less incorrect in Japanese. There are a few references to actual change-between-generations evolution in Pokemon too, and they don't really get it wrong.

what about digmon

Patrick Wall Called “How To Make A Shirt That’s Also A War Crime”.

He was hilarious. Unfortunately the audience didn’t get his wrt humor. I’d love to see more of him.

More boring than annoying. I like Steves points of view on things but his bits really need work.

Keep trying new things! But yeah, this parody felt a bit long to me.

The annoyingness is entirely intentional.

You do it too much honor, sire.

@@SteveShives Take it back, Steve.

ah yes this is why I now watch everything at a 1.75 speed boost

He was kinda Shatnering. Just a bit.

@@deannaalbert672 Interesting verb.

Sadly a lot of people don't like his ponderous manner.