Star Trek Retro Review: "The Omega Glory" | Other Earths

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@John73John
@John73John 7 ай бұрын
Both the Pledge of Allegiance and the Bible are much better in the original Klingon.
@davidmckendry4491
@davidmckendry4491 7 ай бұрын
Or Russian.
@davidthomas283
@davidthomas283 7 ай бұрын
has someone translated these?
@CAP198462
@CAP198462 6 ай бұрын
Do I or do I not want these to be real? I’m not sure.
@John73John
@John73John 6 ай бұрын
@@davidthomas283 Parts of the Bible have been translated to Klingon, but not the whole thing (yet). As for the Pledge of Allegiance, I found a video of it in Klingon on KZfaq. Links in comments usually get deleted but you can search for it yourself.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 6 ай бұрын
Sut vIghoSpa' 'e' yIchaw', ghe''or vIpong 'e' yIchaw'
@tonyclemens4213
@tonyclemens4213 6 ай бұрын
Even when I was a kid I thought Shatner's look at the American flag was amusing considering he's Canadian
@amymjennings
@amymjennings 3 ай бұрын
Well yes, Montreal. I grew up there, but his character is US citizen from Iowa. Give up sweetheart😮. LL&P 🎉
@joearnold6881
@joearnold6881 7 ай бұрын
I wish they hadn’t cut the scene where Spock and McCoy’s boobs get firmer
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 6 ай бұрын
This man wins the internets for the day.
@darkyno6138
@darkyno6138 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'll take this episode over the lame sexist Insurrection any day.
@Zoroasterisk
@Zoroasterisk 7 ай бұрын
"Confused, but confidently stated" accurately describes so much about the world. My entire work history, for one
@michaelramon2411
@michaelramon2411 7 ай бұрын
If there is any episode of TOS that could have been created by a time-traveling ChatGPT that had consumed every other episode of TOS and then spat something out, it would be this one.
@cassiedevereaux-smith3890
@cassiedevereaux-smith3890 7 ай бұрын
The Yangs are primitive and violent? Yeah. That checks out.
@chrisblake4198
@chrisblake4198 7 ай бұрын
The summary for this episode made me finally connect the dots on a running trope that could serve as an episode- between Omega Glory, Insurrection, a few TNG episodes I'm not gonna look up the titles for, and I'm sure some other TOS, it really feels like Starfleet really has a hard-on for finding the secret to longevity. Knowing that it surprises me that Strange New Worlds is so blase about introducing an effectively immortal character last season. Seems like the natural extension of finding long lived aliens living among humankind would be to capture them and do whatever we could to find their secret. For a society so dead-set against genetic augmentation, it seems weird to me that they get so worked up about finding a fountain of youth.
@thegneech
@thegneech 7 ай бұрын
I was never clear how "We the People..." was supposed to be corrupted into "comb e-plagnista." The phonetics aren't even neighbors.
@alanbear6505
@alanbear6505 7 ай бұрын
Have you ever heard a group of high school students recite the Pledge of Allegiance? They've been forced to repeat it so many times over the years they just end up mumbling their way through it and none of it sounds like real words.
@bclapp2483
@bclapp2483 7 ай бұрын
I'd guess . The ability to actually read was lost early on. The chant was passed over generations. Getting garbled over generations
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 7 ай бұрын
"E plebnista" sounds more like "E Pluribus Unum" to me, and I wonder if that was the idea in an earlier draft.
@scaper8
@scaper8 7 ай бұрын
I think it's supposed to be (somehow) both English and Latin mixing. "E'd plebnista" is (what I think) he says. "E'd" stora fits an odd contraction of "we the" and "plebnista" fits "plebian," "citizens/people."
@cassiedevereaux-smith3890
@cassiedevereaux-smith3890 6 ай бұрын
Universal translators are weird, man.
@sirnik84
@sirnik84 7 ай бұрын
The "we plab-nesta" episode!
@ShinGallon
@ShinGallon 6 ай бұрын
Man, the Exeter is a regular buffet if you're a Salt Leech.
@alanbear6505
@alanbear6505 7 ай бұрын
So the Exeter's Medical Officer sat in the Captain's chair and recorded a log using dramatic camera angles and lighting but couldn't figure out how to transmit a quarantine warning? You'd think that's the sort of thing a Medical Officer would know about (the warning, not the camera angles and lighting).
@steveng.clinard1766
@steveng.clinard1766 6 ай бұрын
Damnit Alan, he's a doctor not a...yeah agree.
@Scanner9631
@Scanner9631 6 ай бұрын
He also knew that he could save himself and some of the crew by beaming down and no one can operate the transporter. Guess he hated the idea of living among the primitives more than dying.
@amymjennings
@amymjennings 3 ай бұрын
Nonsense, not as dramatic ❤😊
@ttintagel
@ttintagel 7 ай бұрын
The pledge always reminds me of a Sci-Fi story I once read that was set in a land called Tizathy. In the end it turns out to be a post-apocalypse USA where all the written records were gone but they remembered "My country, tis of thee."
@Globovoyeur
@Globovoyeur 6 ай бұрын
That story may be "Magic City" by Nelson S. Bond.
@GrahamPointer1972
@GrahamPointer1972 6 ай бұрын
Still sung to the tune of "God Save The King"?
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 6 ай бұрын
The country directly to the north must have been Zardoz.
@michaelcherry8952
@michaelcherry8952 7 ай бұрын
The one thing that struck me when I first saw this (in 1968!) was that apparently, the ONLY important forces in the world (including Earth parallel worlds) are the United States and the "others" (in this case, Asian Communists who could either be North Vietnamese or Chinese), with the U.S. being (as usual) the "good guys". The kind of tunnel vision that ignores the rest of the planet's governments and societies is at one and the same time frustrating and breathtaking in its arrogance. The U.S. Constitution is a hell of a document, but it's not the one and only thing worth considering. In fact, the framers of the Constitution were all highly educated men who had studied Greek and Latin and had read widely, using that education to frame the Constitution with what they at the time believed were the best ideas from both history and then current governments. Hell, some of it was based on the Iroquois Confederacy. You know, the government system developed by those "pesky" First Nations people who bear a very strong physical resemblance to the Kohms. 🤔 The fundamental idea that the U.S. is the one and only good thing happening anywhere, anytime was the real turn-off for me.
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 6 ай бұрын
I'm afraid Star Trek is a bit manifest destiny - y.
@michaelcherry8952
@michaelcherry8952 6 ай бұрын
@@alanpennie Unfortunately, yes. Great writers and lots of imagination, but a tendency to default to "step aside and let our superiority handle it". There are times (such as in The Omega Glory") where this is so front and center that it really irritates.
@RictusHolloweye
@RictusHolloweye 6 ай бұрын
When I first saw this episode I was really enjoying it for the first two acts. I always understood what the third act was trying to say via US exceptionalism... but yeah, a little bit nauseating.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 6 ай бұрын
That opener reminded me of how my chosen family deliberately flubbed their Catholic lines in church. Great work
@user-mg5mv2tn8q
@user-mg5mv2tn8q 6 ай бұрын
When he was involved in producing TNG and still had creative control, Gene Roddenberry was infamous for shooting down story idea after story idea proposed by other writers on the grounds that, in the future, humanity will rise above all internal conflict, will grow beyond all the more negative motivations such as selfisness, weakness, greed, and the hunger for power, and human will never again contend against human in any way, shape, or form. In other words, the only conflicts humans will ever have to face in the Trek universe anymore will be external ones, us against them, whoever "them" may be in any given episode. Obviously, The Omega Glory was written before Roddenberry reached that particular stubborn pinnacle of idealism. And just as obviously, Roddenberry getting squeezed out of creative control was ultimately the best thing that could have happened to TNG, and to the whole franchise.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 7 ай бұрын
I like the economy of using the USS Exeter, so that the Enterprise model and sets could be recycled. The Exeter crew badge is very different from the Enterprise/Federation badge; I'm sure that the extended universe has a detailed explanation for this.
@alanbear6505
@alanbear6505 7 ай бұрын
If you watch closely every ship in TOS had different badges.
@funnynameyeah
@funnynameyeah 7 ай бұрын
It's actually the badges not being standard is one of the things that has just been chalked up to production inconsistencies of the time. I think one or two different badges have explanations, like being prototypes or stuff like that, but the rest are just "TOS fucked up"
@wtspman
@wtspman 7 ай бұрын
Each ship in TOS had distinct crew badges. You get to see some of the others in The Doomsday Machine, and The Ultimate Computer. The Star Trek Technical Manual included a full set for ships that were named in the series, even if the crew never appeared on screen.
@geekchris105
@geekchris105 6 ай бұрын
The reason for the different badges is because in the TOS era each constitution class ship had a different badge, at least in theory. You can also see it across several other episodes, but this was never really stuck to. I'm sure there's some dumb book reason that they all used the enterprise badges by the time we get to the TOS movie era
@Rocketsong
@Rocketsong 6 ай бұрын
D.C Fontana, William Ware Theiss, and the costume department, had designed unique badges for each of the 12 Constitution class ships, much like US Navy vessels have their own unique patch. Roddenburry threw a hissy fit when he found out. That's why we only see the unique badges for the Exeter and the Constellation.
@Globovoyeur
@Globovoyeur 6 ай бұрын
When Cloud William pulls the steel bar free and belts Kirk hard with it, it sure is lucky for our side that Kirk isn't killed outright.
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 7 ай бұрын
I will say, Kirk's speech about the Yangs losing the meaning of the "worship words" is one of the bits from Star Trek that really does seem to have made an impression on many viewers, including some who are not generally fans of the show. There's a weird power to it, at the climax of this otherwise ramshackle, nonsense-filled episode. The disease/immunity/longevity plot is the bit that really frustrates me because it doesn't make any sense and it goes nowhere. It feels to me like a garbled retread of "Miri", which had the same basic idea (even on a parallel Earth) done more coherently. And that episode isn't great!
@Scanner9631
@Scanner9631 6 ай бұрын
It meshes with my hearing "Christians" explain that "turn the other cheek" is to provoke them into slapping you with the other hand which supposedly was an insult back then and would give you the justification to kick their ass. Like the first slap didn't give justification and the 2nd slap might not be a backhand with the same hand? Very confused understanding of their "Holy Book". Same people think that non Americans have NO RIGHTS in the U.S. as the Constitution only applies to Americans even in the U.S.. Very confused people, since gone MAGA.
@cozmothemagician7243
@cozmothemagician7243 6 ай бұрын
"They Fight ... they fight... they FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT... The Kirky & Stacey Show!"
@StormsparkPegasus
@StormsparkPegasus 7 ай бұрын
Wow you almost had me at the beginning of the video. I was like the pledge of allegiance? Who are you and what have you done with Steve? Then you started the pledge the way they said it in the episode. Great job!
@derekobrien2728
@derekobrien2728 6 ай бұрын
Oh, it's definitely one of the worst... but even the worst TOS isn't without its merits. And you're right, Kirk's speech about the rights applying to all remains a bold declaration today.
@snakebitcat
@snakebitcat 7 ай бұрын
You missed a perfect chance to do a callback to Miri by saying "Cloud William bonk-bonks Kirk on the head."
@brianstiles1701
@brianstiles1701 6 ай бұрын
I had no idea this one was hated. I absolutely love it because of how corny and on the nose it is.
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 6 ай бұрын
If your enjoyment of something correlates with its value as a hate watch, why would you not understand that others simply hate it?
@CaptRobertApril
@CaptRobertApril 2 ай бұрын
What really hurt this episode is the deletion of a line towards the end that implied that what we've encountered is probably a lost Earth colony ship, which would've negated the insanely stretched "parallel Earth" trope.
@dhpbear2
@dhpbear2 7 ай бұрын
15:30 - That fight in the jail cell lasted 3 minutes, 22 seconds!
@williamst.romain7393
@williamst.romain7393 7 ай бұрын
I noticed something that nobody else seems to, at least they don't comment on it. The red shirt is reaching for his phaser when captain psycho vaporizes him.
@FrostyButter
@FrostyButter 6 ай бұрын
"Heaving and barf" I lol'ed
@maxpeterson8616
@maxpeterson8616 6 ай бұрын
This is one that pushed my suspension of disbelief hard.
@facttrek
@facttrek 3 ай бұрын
The Omega Glory (which means The Final [Old] Glory) was, of course, one of three scripts penned for the second pilot in 1965, so the ideas here were old hat by the time they finally made the episode, but many of those tropes were invented *for* it. This includes the non interference directive, and the law of parallel planetary development. Another interesting tidbit: in pages of one of the early pilot versions in the Roddenberry papers, it's Captain Peter York, but York is scratched out and Kirk is penciled in throughout.
@thomasvanetten1984
@thomasvanetten1984 7 ай бұрын
I recall reading that the script for this episode was one of the choices for the second pilot. I’m guessing Roddenberry thought this episode would appeal to the networks jingoistic leanings and hence put ST on the air.
@DanBriggs3000
@DanBriggs3000 7 ай бұрын
(clap) Bravo for the No Salt call out (potassium chloride)
@michaeledwardharris
@michaeledwardharris 7 ай бұрын
Cool analysis, as always.
@carleycarleyb
@carleycarleyb 7 ай бұрын
“Lt. Deadmeat” 😂😂😂😂😂
@pahawker
@pahawker 6 ай бұрын
"The disease that turns people into crystals" @18:19 ... you mean something that feels lifted from the Batman '66 Movie?
@WFierce
@WFierce 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure that shot of Steve kissing the Bible won't be taken and used out of context. Certainly not by me.
@SteveShives
@SteveShives 6 ай бұрын
I should have slipped it the tongue.
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 7 ай бұрын
That intro tickled me pink. *chef's kiss*
@mr.werb15md90
@mr.werb15md90 7 ай бұрын
I've always enjoyed just how silly both the crystal transformations and seeing the U.S. Flag was. I also liked how unremarkable the reasoning was for the other earth's immortality was, I expected it to this big thing where he was the captain guy was right but it would have some negative cost, so it turning out to be a whole bunch of nothing felt really interesting to me. but yeah, this episode wasn't that great beyond the nice little speech.
@omtz72
@omtz72 6 ай бұрын
I’ve always liked this episode, it’s slow and at times boring but the pledge of allegiance and the preamble to the u.s. constitution are the payoff to me, I was about 6 yrs old ad watching the schoolhouse rock cartoons on Saturday mornings, so hearing those words from a grown up somehow made them real to a little kid growing up in Mexico (me)
@ChissHansen
@ChissHansen 7 ай бұрын
Okay, but why is this episode called "the Omega Glory"?
@mrgreatbigmoose
@mrgreatbigmoose 7 ай бұрын
I assume the American flag is called Old Glory? Only just like the pledge of allegiance they got that wrong too? I am just guessing here...I'm as Canadian as Shatner. All kidding aside, the planet is named OMEGA 4...so there's part of it.
@EricFarwell-gh9pw
@EricFarwell-gh9pw 7 ай бұрын
Glory means flag.
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 7 ай бұрын
That's one bit that actually makes sense. "Omega" as in the end, the apocalypse; "Glory" as in "Old Glory", the US flag.
@logiciananimal
@logiciananimal 7 ай бұрын
Omega - the sciency name for the star the planet is of, and "Old Glory" - a name of the US flag, no? Of course, I've only lived in the use for 2.5 years once many years back (plus at least one visit to a motel in NY somewhere that had the constitution everywhere) so ... - but being Canadian didn't stop Shatner in this episode either, so why not? :)
@molin1
@molin1 6 ай бұрын
it better not be related to Old Glory but goddammit I bet it is
@davidnaas8366
@davidnaas8366 7 ай бұрын
Morgan Woodward? Well, now we know what happened to Boss Godfrey after Cool Hand Luke went on to legend. Kirk read the Constitution real good for a Canadian.
@bjmccann1
@bjmccann1 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@catherinewood948
@catherinewood948 6 ай бұрын
Well-reasoned and said.
@johnsavard7583
@johnsavard7583 6 ай бұрын
This was the episode that was immortalized in the Star Trek View-Master 3D rule.
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, this is one of the cringe/dumb episodes of TOS. I remember even as a kid (my dad watched in syndication and that's how I got my start in Star Trek) I thought this was a very silly ending and concept.
@JamesC1981
@JamesC1981 7 ай бұрын
for me its the worst episode of TOS
@nataschavisser573
@nataschavisser573 6 ай бұрын
​@@JamesC1981The hippie/ garden of eden episode with the poisoned fruit of also epically cringe.
@plastickhero
@plastickhero 6 ай бұрын
Misguided Captains that don't get stranded on alternate Earths go on to become Evil Admirals.
@davidrohde2636
@davidrohde2636 7 ай бұрын
As an Aussie I suppose I support that pledge 😂
@tewa9614
@tewa9614 6 ай бұрын
As a kid in the 70s who watched Star Trek every day after school, I had it in my head for a long time that this was 2 different episodes, so different was the Exeter story at the beginning from the rest of the episode. But here's a brain-bamboozler: If the Chief Medical Officer knew that getting down to the planet saved your life... why didn't he beam down to the planet? Were all the people who knew how to work the transporter already dead, or something?
@SkylerLinux
@SkylerLinux 7 ай бұрын
And they fight and they fight and they fight and they fight and they fight and they fight and they fight and they fight and they fight and they fight. It's action and time filling/wasting.
@alanbear6505
@alanbear6505 7 ай бұрын
It's the Itchy and Scratchy Show!
@thecryptofishist9565
@thecryptofishist9565 6 ай бұрын
The Itchy and Scratchy Show!
@garysouza95
@garysouza95 7 ай бұрын
Whatever you do, make sure you don't have any warning about boarding the Exeter loaded into the automatic disaster beacon, say to trigger the same system used to drop the shields to stall out the impulse drive for good measure to make the point.
@empirejeff
@empirejeff 7 ай бұрын
I thought the Bible started with In The Beginning.
@bclapp2483
@bclapp2483 7 ай бұрын
It starts with a baseball reference. In the Big Inning . Later translations have garbled it. Lol
@wdrewjr
@wdrewjr 6 ай бұрын
The Omega Glory is.... Awesometacular!!!!!!
@williamst.romain7393
@williamst.romain7393 7 ай бұрын
I always had to wonder why Kirk's skull wasn't crushed by that guy hitting him.
@darkyno6138
@darkyno6138 6 ай бұрын
Kirk would have had at least a concussion and a massive headache for days.
@Cmdr1962
@Cmdr1962 2 ай бұрын
Trek often dabbles in cross-pollination from various genres. This one is pure pulp sci-fi. And I like it! E plabnista, baby!
@ghostporcupine
@ghostporcupine 7 ай бұрын
Hahahaha, I always use this episode to scandalize my friends who haven't watched much TOS. Their reaction is usually disbelief followed by a traumatized visit to the episode's wiki page.
@EricFarwell-gh9pw
@EricFarwell-gh9pw 7 ай бұрын
How odd, or as Kirk would say, "How... odd." The 1st draft of this was in contention with "Mudd's Women" & "WNMHGB4" to be the pilot!
@Mr_Timi1
@Mr_Timi1 3 ай бұрын
This is my mom's favorite episode of TOS.
@logiciananimal
@logiciananimal 7 ай бұрын
Both Decker in "The Doomsday Machine" and Tracy here are COs that lose their crew horribly. Decker is a broken man, and seems to really be (or was) the kind of guy who was a good leader. Tracy is just a thug. This difference alone shows a difference between a good episode and a stinker; there are other problems and good bits in the two in the same direction that magnify this starting point difference to a huge one. And TDDM is not even best of breed, either.
@raymathews1474
@raymathews1474 6 ай бұрын
You speak the holy words! what's next, the Y Plebista?
@ryankirkpatrick959
@ryankirkpatrick959 6 ай бұрын
This episode was a favorite of mine as a kid! Although even at 8 years old, I found all the copycat Earth factors a little TOO coincidental, Sirah gave me strange feelings I wouldn't understand for another few years. 😅
@Scanner9631
@Scanner9631 6 ай бұрын
I see the duplicate Earths as the Preservers "making a backup" editing it slightly and setting up a new version when the prior one destroyed itself. Sargon's world might have been a very old attempt at a stable one as they were supposed to be more advanced than Kirks time. Miri was another. The Roman world just applied to one civilization as did the Native Americans. All trying for a stable Earth Human civilization. The Ur humans started it and evolved to Q level (or beyond) the Organians running things in Kirks time with the Preservers being the field agents. The 2 "hardy Talosion" types in the Empath might be Preservers or even lower level agents.
@ranuelthebard3751
@ranuelthebard3751 Ай бұрын
As a kid I was impressed by the use of what I later learned was called linguistic drift to explain how they had the documents but had lost the understanding of them and the form they speculated that the drift might take. It's one of those episodes that got worse the older I got though. Just looking at the implications of the language there are holes. It's a few hundred years in the future. The English that the Federation characters speak wouldn't be the same as modern English. I'm coming up on 60 and I've seen drift within my lifetime what might the changes be by then? Okay, we are told at some point that they speak "Standard" and through the magic of TV we hear it all as contemporary English. Fine. But if the native's language has turned we the people into e plebnista then the version of English they speak wouldn't be the same as that spoken by us or the Federation. Ah, but presumably through the magic of the universal translator ran though the magic of TV it does and without any reference by the characters that anything is being translated at all then the big reveal is just something that gets pulled out of Roddenberry's ass.
@ericgeyer3213
@ericgeyer3213 7 ай бұрын
So the crystallizing disease story is something akin to Worf's bout with Klingon Measles in "Up the Long Ladder", which plays like an aborted B-story that's over by the first commercial break (with him sharing the Klingon tea ceremony with Dr. Pulaski) because the A-story was so full (was going to say bloated, but I can't think of what could have been cut, other than Riker getting his shillelagh waxed by the Irish girl) there wasn't any more time for the B-story.
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 6 ай бұрын
I think the original concept was something different, and that the “crystallizing disease” was actually Bill Shatner’s suggestion.
@wtspman
@wtspman 7 ай бұрын
I remember this episode from after school re-runs in the mid-70s. It was never a favourite. It always stood out in my mind for a lack of continuity between the plot drivers that kicked off the story, and all the BS in the second half.
@LeftToWrite006
@LeftToWrite006 6 ай бұрын
This was absolutely comedy-fucking-gold!
@brunozeigerts6379
@brunozeigerts6379 6 ай бұрын
They never explain how Dr. Van Gelder from Dagger of the Mind wound up commanding a Starship.
@DonDueed
@DonDueed 7 ай бұрын
I watched this episode in its first run (age 14 or so). Clearly remember enjoying it quite a bit -- it had a lot of action and interesting twists and turns -- right up to the point where the Yangs carried in the American flag. What a letdown! I mean, I was a near-fanatical Trek nut, and I very nearly turned the TV off at that point.
@andrewanastasovski1609
@andrewanastasovski1609 7 ай бұрын
I love TOS!
@shang6158
@shang6158 7 ай бұрын
Rejected Pitch for this episode: The Alpha Glory, where the entire planet has a society based on one now-debunked stud of captive wolves.
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 6 ай бұрын
The Kohms lose all of the battles but they get the girls and have all of the fun.
@brunozeigerts6379
@brunozeigerts6379 6 ай бұрын
This was among my favourites growing up... but over time the flaws begin to show up. Among other things... Spock was already loosening the bars in his cell... yet he seems to have stopped bothering since Kirk (who should have been killed when Cloud William belted him) has to free him. (What, no guard?) Or ... none of the uniforms were dresses... so only men died? What happened to the women? And...no loose underwear? Remains of Yang bodies... since when do phasers leave remains? Also... I had to reexamine my attitudes on the Vietnam conflict, understanding that it was a fight against a colonial power... so, in that context... were the Vietnamese... the good guys? Or the less than bad guys... they did commit horrific atrocities and I'd read that there's some concern about what happened to the Montagnard tribes members after the Vietnamese took over. Still ... it's better than Spock's Brain and And the Children Shall Lead.
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 6 ай бұрын
Since Kirk does note at the episode’s conclusion that the provisions of the Constitution must apply to everyone, “Kohms” included, I’m guessing that Roddenberry managed to convince himself that his script’s message was measured and provocative. Which it wasn’t. Aside from a few select moments in “Spock’s Brain” and “And the Children Shall Lead,” the conclusion to this episode must be the most cringeworthy in all of TOS. It would be interesting to know how the pilot version of the script differed from what was aired. I assume the changes were very substantial.
@edstowell5489
@edstowell5489 6 ай бұрын
I took Captain Tracy wanting to export the long life back to the Federation as a way to make something good come from his crew dying and all the lives he took so that he and this gift could survive. I'm not saying it was right but I could see it becoming his obsession that allows him to do all the terrible things he does.
@JDEhlert
@JDEhlert 7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, there always needed to be a follow up to that planet to find out just HOW they got all this. Some passing a-hole ship dropped off the papers, flag, and book around the time just after Cochrane busted out from Earth with warp drive. I mean... seriously?
@SharpDesign
@SharpDesign 6 ай бұрын
Maybe you could watch the episode of Back at the Barnyard, Pig Amok. It's a direct parody of Star Trek. Amok Time.
@kevinmiles1521
@kevinmiles1521 7 ай бұрын
This was one of the three scripts that was in contention for the second pilot.
@willgray7272
@willgray7272 7 ай бұрын
Sure was. Good thing they didn't pick it.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 7 ай бұрын
Tos really drives home the idea that the prime directive is either very much open to interpretation or its application has been modified through policy. In tos they constantly have direct interactions with non warp civilizations,the prime directive seemingly meant to deter direct interference with the status quo. By tng we see them avoiding interacting with primitives at all unless they are taking efforts to disguise themselves. Beaming down to say hi and wander around a bit is a violation by the late 24th century, but common practice in the mid 23rd. Also, Kirk totally violated the directive by telling them how to be better Americans lol.
@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286
@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286 6 ай бұрын
As I recall, Spock called Kirk on that, and Kirk said he wasn't interfering; just reminding them of what they were fighting for.
@Scanner9631
@Scanner9631 6 ай бұрын
@@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286 By the time Kirk was there the interference had already happened. What TNG forgot was that it was to PROTECT the developing civilization from being harmed by knowledge they weren't ready for. In TNG Penpal Picard thought it was a violation to save a planet from devastation by a natural disaster beyond their ability to cope even if it could be done without revealing that it wasn't a natural event. In another Picard was willing to let a species be driven to extinction the same way instead of saving what could be saved. TOS sent the Enterprise to save a handful of people from their star going Nova only to find they had all traveled into their past. Not a violation of the Prime Directive as the people were not believed to have any way to save themselves. Same with diverting the asteroid from hitting the Native American world except in that case the locals wouldn't have known how it happened.
@endlesswick
@endlesswick 7 ай бұрын
I really like Omega Glory. I think people who are critical of this episode are most critical of the politics. I like the fan theory that the politics are the result of the universal translator (UT). UTs of the time were primitive so they would portray to the user an alien culture in terms that the user would understand, hence the American Flag, Yangs-Kohms, the Constitution. The technology improved by the time we get to TNG so alien cultures seemed more “alien”. That is the bear of the episode, everything else is great. Captain Tracy is a one of my favorite Star Trek villains, a starship captain gone rouge, kicked Kirks ass 2 out of 3 times. Morgan Woodward loved the role and relished in it. Man TOS phasers were OP. A single man with a phaser could take on an entire army! TNG nerfed the phaser, but I prefer the TOS phaser that gave a person god like powers. The final fight had no stunt men, that is Shatner and Woodward going at it.
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 6 ай бұрын
I would agree that it was refreshing (albeit a little disconcerting) to see Kirk get his ass kicked in a fair fight, and that by a normal human who was considerably his senior.
@Scanner9631
@Scanner9631 6 ай бұрын
@@michaelhall2709 a normal human who was considerably his senior. Bigger as fit and 25 years of extra dirty tricks training.
@BlackCover95
@BlackCover95 7 ай бұрын
Will “All Our Yesterdays” be included in these reviews?
@SteveShives
@SteveShives 6 ай бұрын
Eventually!
@NoahSpurrier
@NoahSpurrier 6 ай бұрын
I have a Gullah translation of the New Testament. It sounds similar.
@skug9bob
@skug9bob 6 ай бұрын
Do they say the Coms are specifically the descendants of the North Vietnamese? My impression was that while the war may have started due to Vietnam, they were more generic "Asians", but it has been quite a while since I saw it.
@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286
@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286 6 ай бұрын
I always assumed the Kohms were decedents of Chinese invaders. But what do I know?
@Scanner9631
@Scanner9631 6 ай бұрын
I thought their clothing was more Mongol.
@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286
@lennierofthethirdfaneofchu7286 6 ай бұрын
"FREEEEE-DOM! It is a worship word. You shall not speak it."
@seanspartan2023
@seanspartan2023 7 ай бұрын
Lt. Deadmeat Redshirt 😂😂😂
@renatocorvaro6924
@renatocorvaro6924 6 ай бұрын
'Twas a silly episode. Fun time.
@toneloak
@toneloak 7 ай бұрын
I think after a few re-writes, this episode could have been a classic Trek movie.
@Scanner9631
@Scanner9631 6 ай бұрын
By Picards day they could have taken to space as Yangee Traders instead of the Ferengi.
@richfox1142
@richfox1142 6 ай бұрын
As far as parallel earths go this one is my favorite.
@mgscheue
@mgscheue 7 ай бұрын
Surely your tongue shall turn to fire!
@SiriusMined
@SiriusMined 6 ай бұрын
Eplebnista!!
@Poetry-For-The-Itch-Of-It
@Poetry-For-The-Itch-Of-It 6 ай бұрын
I love the original series. Parts of this episode ended up in a sestina I wrote about 20 years ago. I don't think the poem was any good.
@lisam5744
@lisam5744 6 ай бұрын
Another same earth, different planet video. I know budgets were tight...but come on. I also remember thinking that the flag, bible and constitution copy were a bit much considering it was another planet and all that. Why Rodenberry didn't make the people on the planet survivors from a spaceship (or two) from Earth would have made it make a touch more sense.
@Ned_of_the_Hill
@Ned_of_the_Hill 6 ай бұрын
I remember a 1970s "Star Trek" book (The "Star Trek Maps," I believe) that suggested exactly that scenario to explain the parallels to Earth.
@molin1
@molin1 6 ай бұрын
Personally I always love the "corrupt guy breaks the prime directive" schtick, so for me this can't be the worst episode. Also, there are some real boring episodes of TOS on the roster; despite being extremely padded, this one does not bore me as much as those. Success!
@LinguarumFautor
@LinguarumFautor 7 ай бұрын
My least favorite Asimov also features the American founding documents. Declaration, Constitution, flags, are all too obvious and break the fourth wall too aggressively.
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 7 ай бұрын
"The Stars, Like Dust". Asimov apparently said that Horace Gold got him to put that in. I always wondered if Roddenberry had read it.
@robertmiller9735
@robertmiller9735 7 ай бұрын
The Stars Like Dust, yeah. The only other memorable thing about that story was the planet with oxygen but not carbon dioxide in its atmosphere.
@Rediphone21
@Rediphone21 7 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@jplayzow
@jplayzow 7 ай бұрын
This was certainly one of the episodes of TOS
@mokwella
@mokwella Ай бұрын
Why did they choose this episode, of all episodes, to be a Viewmaster set?
@tamaraclaw
@tamaraclaw 6 ай бұрын
Interesting to note...Shatner never became a U.S. citizen
@TiffanyStarrxxx
@TiffanyStarrxxx 6 ай бұрын
I love Steve despite our difference in opinion. He thinks Enterprise isn't that great, I think the same of TOS. Must be a generational thing.
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 6 ай бұрын
“TOS” covers a huge spectrum of quality, from “The City on the Edge of Forever” and “Balance of Terror” to, well, episodes like this one. That said, there have been significant changes in the way dramas are presented on television in the last half century - directing, acting, visual effects, and so on. Quite often I see young KZfaqrs allow for those differences while reviewing these old shows, which I find gratifying, but completely get it if you can’t or won’t. Unfortunately, I can’t look at these shows through the eyes of a young person, any more than you can an old one.
@Scanner9631
@Scanner9631 6 ай бұрын
One of the things that people who have watched Trek starting with TOS have against Enterprise is the constant conflicts with established history. Not to say that TOS or TNG never disagree with themselves but at least with them the who idea of continuity was more seen as a soap opera thing not for Sci Fi shows.
@twitchew
@twitchew 6 ай бұрын
Omega Glory - distilled Vision of Gene...
@stevensutton4677
@stevensutton4677 6 ай бұрын
Everybody's dead, Dave.
@mikecaetano
@mikecaetano 6 ай бұрын
E Pleb Nista! Sirah aka Nova aka Loana ...
@TrueYellowDart
@TrueYellowDart 6 ай бұрын
Perhaps that particularly long, drawn out fight is a direct metaphor for the Vietnam War, with offering dry commentary like an evening newscaster. It’s clunky viewing regardless, of course.
@TazDevil50
@TazDevil50 7 ай бұрын
lol I like this ep
@PhilRounds
@PhilRounds 6 ай бұрын
The E Plebnista ?
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