Just a daily reminder to never delete that outro- it is the best

Diversity requirements, the council has. Tax breaks the Jedi Order must get. Fucking expensive, Coruscant rent is.

This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!

So is it also NOT Mace Windu who meets up with Palpatine and Anakin on Naboo as they're arriving for Qui Gon's funeral?

I knew what this was gonna be the moment I saw the thumbnail and title. I still find it fascinating that we got a whole new character plus a video game explaining Adi's absence in AOT, just because of a recast, despite Adi essentially being a nameless background character in the movies. Guess even George goes in as deep as some fans to.

My headcanon is that maybe Eeth Koth just went on vacation and got a nice tan.

2:44 Yaddle wouldn’t have accidentally called him the wrong name, because she would have been dead before he relinquished his seat on the council. 🤓

6:33 “Who gets just annihilated in episode 2 by Jango Fett, which was nice because it opened up a space on the council for Obi-Wan” 💀

I think a lot of us millennials are very familiar with the Episode 1 council because they were in all the 90s video games we played over and over again and all over all the mountains of merchandise. What a wild time to be a kid!

I always love the dog clip in the outro, so goofy in a loveable way.

With the original Star Wars, George Lucas clearly wanted to establish some kind of vibe with character accents, despite nearly all the actors being british, so there's a lot of dubbing over people and british actors putting on fake american accents. They also supposedly dubbed over a woman because it was deemed too dark for female pilots to be dying in the Battle of Endor (presumably also why an old lady pilot was cut) Following from that, it makes more sense why Phantom Menace did so much with more exotic accents for all the aliens, which was poorly received. I think the Clone Wars cartoon had more success with throwing around accents with French Twileks and Dee Bradley Baker doing lots and lots of his New Zealander impression

That Kit Fisto bit lmao Im dead "the man looks like a freak" lmao

Wait so what if Palpatine and Sidious are actually different people after all and just the same species? Could we have just been confused this whole time?😱

Honourable mention to the vaguely Chiss-looking and Gran councilmen seen in one Grievous comic and never again, whose timelines do not really line up with any known gaps, so their presence on the council is questionable.

The funniest one to me was Sheev saying, "Bail Antilles" and then George changing his married name to Organa after the fact with zero explanation when there was a Captain Antilles and a Wedge Antilles. Needlessly confusing indeed. EDIT: LOL I typed this before you mentioned it. Hilarious.

I actually kinda like that Lucas and other contributors to the lore got caught up in the little unnoticed details in the background. I like that almost every background character as a some back story.

This reminds me how Rune Haako, the advisor of Nute Gunray from TPM is suppose to be the Nemoidian with Gunray in Episode 2, but they sound completely different there and looks slightly different overall.

There's the whole Sifo Dyas was "Sido Dyas" in the original script - Implying that Palpatine may have been a Jedi at one point. There was also some marketing material for Episode I that showed a brown-haired, clean-shaven white guy who was listed as "Bail Organa" but once the film came out, it was changed to "Bail Antilles" because apparently that surname is super common in the Star Wars galaxy.

3:46 at least for a character like Plo Koon you couldn’t tell they replaced the actor that was in the first 2 with a new guy for the third film, sadly for the new guy they didn’t recast the faceplate so he had to wear the face plate that was made to fit Alan Ruscoe.

Next you're going to tell me that all the stunt doubles are actually separate characters!

I just remembered this: Denis Lawson was Space Jesus’s uncle! If Higgs didn’t have trouble with his, lines, there wouldn’t have been an uncle to inspire Ewan McGregor, and thus not perfect conviction in “Hello there!”

Was not happy about how they killed off Adi in the Clone Wars. The comics and Jedi Starfighter made her out to be way to much of a badass to die like that.

The power of one. The power of two. The power of maannnnyyyyyy.

WAIT… what game is that at the end of the video with R2D2 and Perry the Platypus fighting???

Eath Koth was the best case argument for this was all just the same guy - too visually similar at a glance and no one would be the wiser. The Adi Galia switch was the goofiest - switching actress for a scene because actor unavailable, but same character, kill her off later THEN replace with a near identical cousin...the cousin part is the goofy thing. Why replace with a similar character that's just gonna confuse people and seem like the same one? I agree the Clone Wars series was a good opportunity to kill off some in the war and replace them, but replace them with meaningful NEW characters that look different...not just lookalikes.

At one point in the EU, the Duros and Neimoidians were supposed to be the same species.

I had an Eeth Koth action figure.... and all of a sudden there was this Agen Kolar guy.... i wondered what happened to Eeth Koth

I kinda wish we could get stories of eeth koth and agen kolar and/or stass allie and adi gallia teaming up to go on a mission for the council.

"I'm not Adi; I'm my original character, *BLADI* !"

6:40 and both of the colemans got their names are tuckerizations of people who worked on the films. Robert coleman and his son, Jack.

Kit’s new appearance in episode III is explained by that being after Amidala learned he was called “Fisto”.

Its to sell more toys 👍

7:33 Ah yes, 'Jedi Dartboard' approach which led to many of the retcons I hate... (Also I think that Eeth Koth's original fate was being in the random LAAT that gets shot down in AotC, that's a retcon I'm fine with since other Jedi like Sora Bulq survived the same crash).

If Jedi are supposed to forgo all personal attachments, why are Adi and Stass both allowed to be on the Council?

Wow. I knew about all these characters but never thought about them at the same time, so they were just interchangeable in my head lmao

I believe in legends eeth koth died in aotc when his gunship got shot down right in front of mace windu. Also, in some of the behind the scenes of tcw dave mentioned to george that eeth was already dead at that point but decided to put him in anyway. I kind of wished that they had instead put agen kolar in instead of eeth koth, so those of us who still like to put canon and legends together wouldn't be a big problem.

Ok, I gotta know. What's the game at the end where R2 is duking it out with Perry the Platapus on an 32-bit version of the Termina arena?

Not for nothing, but as fun as the Star Wars property is, it's always been goofy. I'm genuinely surprised that so many people take this IP so seriously. None of the space battles are ever remotely realistic, they all function as if they are flying in atmosphere most of the time. The strategies they employ in space combat is also like WWI and WWII as well, which was fine in the 80s but still, it makes no sense. Lightsabers make no sense, why does the light stop at a certain length... Why does the light portion have weight to it... Why are force users able to redirect blaster fire but not just activate their light saber and rip chunks of light from that and force throw at targets... How can a lightsaber be so hot to melt hulls and blaster doors but cool enough to be in your hands and inches from body parts in some scenes. Why don't they cause massive explosions when Lightsabers come in contact with each other. Why do force users fall to their death? They are essentially just using telekinesis, if they can make things float then they can make themselves float and even fly. They should be able to fly in space even, create a bubble of atmosphere around themselves with telekinesis and then push that bubble around wherever they want to go. They can mind wipe but not mind read? What kind of telepathy is this... We are all seeing how this is really a story about one religious group Jedi (Christian, maybe catholic specifically) focused on virgin birth, resurrection, rebirth and afterlife vs Sith (Muslims) and how they both want to run the world their way and prevent the other from existing right. We do all see this... Oh and further, how the 3rd group (Jewish?, Buddhist?) thinks they both have it wrong and should balance both aspects instead of just being extreme in either direction. There is no Earth in star wars right? Yet, everyone except like 5 people have British accents... Why does Darth Vader have a black guys voice 😅 till this day I've never understood why give him a black guy voice if he's white and has his own not booming/cool sounding voice whining about sand outside armor. Don't get me wrong, I'm an 80s baby loved this stuff growing up. Now, as an adult it's still fun, but there's no way my sci fi indulged mind can take anything Star Wars does seriously. There are so many better and realistic properties yall need to be cheering and pushing for over this, like The Expanse etc. Star wars should be the goofy IP filling kids imagination with wonder and awe, not adults taking it seriously like this really matters. How can we also look at TMNT, Transformers, and He-Man and realize it's just supposed to be fun and not taken so seriously, and not do the same for Star Wars?

Production members as background extras or cameos would be a cool one to do

Does Yarael Poof get the pizza? If not then thats not the real Yarael Poof.

Four pairs actually - Depa Billaba was recast as well for the Battle of Geonosis, but similarly her recast actor was reassigned a new character, Depa's cousin, Sar Labooda. Regarding Wedge though, Fake Wedge is a separate canon character, even though they share a voice in the A New Hope. He's even got his own story in FACPOV! The two Colemans is because there were two separate Colemans involved with production - Robert Coleman (Trebor) and Jack Coleman (Kcaj)

Can’t believe you didn’t bring up Depa Billaba and her sister.

I for one am offended that Lucasfilm didn't trust us fans to recognize that Yoda sometimes dresses in drag for youngling story time and felt the need to invent the character of Yaddle out of nowjere.

I was always curious why Darths & Droids decided to make Wedge a shapeshifter, but now after this video, I understand.

The funny thing is, the actress who played Stass Allie in Ep3 Order 66 scene looks way closer to Adi Gallia's Actress from Ep1 than the other Stass Allie's actress in Ep2

Adi Gallia not being in the arena makes sense from an old lore perspective as she was piloting a jedi starfighter during the battle of geonosis in the game Jedi Starfighter.

I think this is harmless goofiness. Kinda like classic Star Trek kitsch.

Kit Fisto's change in appearance between Episode II and Episode III could just be what war trauma and lack of sleep looks like on his species.

I like how you think most people would even know that characters from the ep 2 fight were in the films outside of the fight and not just extras.When you first showed the 2 characters I wondered what they were from because I didnt remember a spiky headed jedi at all let alone 2.

What game is being played at the end of the video? 8:13

This was something that always confused the hell out of me as a kid, especially when the clone wars episode came out where grievous captures eeth koth, and adi gallia, anakin, and obi wan go to rescue him, especially after watching the movies and seeing toys at the store for years first

Hey question who’s the editor of this video? I saw the editors note implying it’s somebody else but don’t see anybody credited in the description as the editor.

I had a crazy video idea, idk if you've done it already, but if you were given total control of star wars, what would you canonize and decanonize (or if you didn't decanonize anything, how would you handle it?)

This explains a lot, but in retrospect, I'm shocked we were never told that Kit Fisto wasn't in Episode 3, and we were instead seeing his cousin, Kat Fasto. One more action figure for the collectors!

I thought in Legends Eeth Koth died at the Battle of Geonosis

I loved your podcast discussion on this. Weirdly under-discussed curiosity 😂

8:10 what's the game footage from?

What is tahr game play in the back ground it looks cool I have never heard of that game

Remember how Palpatine reacted of Eeth Koth becoming a priest! That was just funny how that cracked him up.

Who looks at an infant boy and decides “Oh, I know! I’ll name him Wedge”

I've always wanted someone to talk about this. You get the same thing with the characters of Pablo-Jil and Coleman Kcaj, and Depa Billaba and Sar Labooda. I think both Adi and Eeth would be tremendously more beloved characters if we had them through each of the prequel films, and having more of a connection if they die where they're doppelgängers die. We also won't have the situation of literally knowing nothing about Stass, Agen, and Coleman. There is still confusion with the official database for Obi-Wan Kenobi on whether or not we see Pablo-Jil or Coleman Kcaj in the tomb. Ironic with all the special edition and tweaks that have been made to the films, we still have these four cases running around.

That’s really interesting, I just did a video on what the council could look like in Acolyte and what action figures you can get to compete it (check it out) during the research I noticed just this and almost selected the wrong characters and was very confused for a moment. Love your video’s thanks .

Whats the flash game the start at 8:10?

They all happened to just have identical twin siblings, this really explains how Shaak Ti managed to die so many times.

The intro is iconic for eck too

My head cannon is that because the Force seems to be inherited and run in families that families with with recurring Force Sensitivity become local powerful families. And so, like Samurai in a Kurosawa film, you get Jedi with lineage going back centuries ... and a lot of them end up on the council.. I wanted that to be the story of what Dooku got to be a Count, but they went another direction.

I wonder if it was a contract thing too. Like they were contracted to play that character for 3 movies and would have to be paid regardless if their character appeared on screen even being played by another actor. Happens allll the time

7:45 what recent novel?

wait the way i so confidently said eeth koth was at the sidious fight. ive literally always thought it was him😭😭

While in the EU the clone rifle was the DC-15A and the carbine was the DC-15S. Makes sense (S for 'short'?). In canon they decided that both are the the term DC-15A applies to both the rifle and carbine with those words needing to be added to distinguish them, which is so dumb and needlessly confusing.

My Favorite Star Wars ADR has to be "TWO FIIIGHTERS VS A STAR DESTROYAHH" int he most southern drawl imaginable

But what are your thoughts on Star Wars Hunters? Sentinel is my main

Just so you know. I’m all for using Star Wars Hunters gameplay as background gameplay all the time now. It’s amazing

Before Dave Faloni changed it, Eeth Koth died in the Battle of Geonosis in the Legendary Continuity

I guarantee the phrase "What do you mean 'We all look alike!?!'" was used in the counsel chamber more than once.

Factions compared idea sci fi insect swarm. Such as Tyranids, arachnids, Zerg, rachni, terminids.

Wait, so there were two of them this whole time!!🤯

I'm pretty sure the Eeth Koth died on Geonosis in legends, only for The Clone Wars to retcon that. Which I guess was to explain his actual absence for AOTC.

I know it’s probably just animation error but Cody just straight up disappeared in the clone wars movie in the beginning and then at the end he’s directing gunships without his visor and also somehow in the gunships going to Teth when Obi wan arrives

Yeah, growing up, I always thought they were just recast and that it was fine, since they were just background characters. I think making them distinctly different characters was more confusing haha. Only one that sort of made sense as separate characters were the 2 Zabrak.

I didnt know the ongree existed in the actual movies! I onjy saw them in swtor, that had to be a really whicked protetic for only a hologram

Your video came out while I was at work listening to one of your two hour videos lol

They could write a whole story about Kit Fisto's drastic change between Ep. 2 and 3. Reminds me of the famous "1000 yard stare" image. Dude definitely saw some shit.

i would like to see more videos like this perhaps one that focuses on contradictions in star wars books

I need to know, what game can Parry the Platypus fight R2-D2 on a link map?

I never noticed there were three wedges, hell when I was a kid I didnt even care about the background characters. I didnt even know people gave a crap about them to the point of being featured prominently in Legends. That was one of the reasons I started subscribing to Star Wars youtubers such as yourself Eckhart, the curiosity to learn what kind of insignificant detail could spiral into something interesting or simply idiotic haha.

I literally thought the same thing about them replacing Koth and Adi with similar looking jedi.

3:10 I agree with the editor

can anyone tell me what game is the background footage for this video?

I’d love to hear about Coleman Kaj and Pablo jil cause they are the most odd example of this

Chanting. The council needed more chanting. THE POWER OF SEATING!

I always thought all those duplicates were meant to be the same person, didn't even notice the thousands of times I watched these movies.

adi gallia is jedi starfighter for me

Were the Backstreet Boy characters in episode 2 actual characters from the extended Star Wars universe?

When are we going to get a series about Kitster Banai ?

I remember buying a pack of the old Decipher SW CCG and pulling Wedge, looking at the picture and being like WTF is this... that's not Wedge :/

This reminds me of George Lucas saying "I don't like it when characters die". He said every character is interesting and it always kills a lot of options and speculative freedom for later projects. That's why most of his "kill-offs" are something like falling down or getting out of sight. Things like decapitating Jango were originally not the plan.

What is that game at the end???

On the one hand, I agree that them splitting characters is extremely goofy. On the other hand, after some (not all) of the backlash aimed at The Acolyte (Young Osha/Mae not being identical twins when adult versions are, fire from a small lamp engulfing an entire base, Dark side mask guy 'retconing' Ki-Adi Mundi claiming the Sith haven't been seen in a Millennia, ect) kind of lends credence that Star Wars fans can in fact NOT suspend disbelief XD

And yet when Episode IX started I was able to immediately tell we were on Mustafar when other people complained lol