Well, they've got shields and sensors, right? ... They _have_ shields, right? Well, no... Shield generators would have put us over budget. Well, it _does_ suck to be them.

Again, they have viewports in the TIE Fighter video game! Does anyone still play that classic?

@@UniversalCipher I remember playing a looooooooooooooong time ago.

Its a feature 😅

That does track for the Empire.

He could try, but he'd still be limited by how fast he could react, how quickly the tie can turn and how well he could aim while spinning his ship like that. So he'd most likely miss.

​@@zkeletonz001actually if the pilot is in the middle of all axis of spin he would be experiencing literály 0g of any kind. In that regard TIE is pretty much perfect fighter. Clawcraft with shield generators would be better of course, but in essence in this tie should have every edge.

@@Paerigos It's not about the G's. Trying to track and hit a moving target while spinning that fast--the X wing was moving very quickly--would be extremely difficult. Think about trying to do it in a video game. You wouldn't be experiencing any G's, but it would still be hard to accomplish.

@@Paerigos You actually do experience Gs while spinning because of the centrifugal force.

​​@@zkeletonz001with unlimited view from external cameras on lenses of their helmets, almost the most advanced targeting system, allowing to hit even specific parts of ships and strict recruitment, where only 1-2 best of 10 cadets becomes a pilot of TIE Fighters? Really?

Tarkin really cut off funding for side and rear camera of tie fighter

I know it's a joke, but the TIE's sensors can see through its own wings. The pilot isn't actually blind

Arent they solar panels?

That's the punchline, yeah

It's called Tech's Turn since TBB 😁

Since when do we call F-35 pilots "imperial"?

@@eddiemurphy5566 F-22 pilots had it first :P

Don't remember them in the TIE Fighter game. It had viewports instead.

​@@QuantumNova WRONG, F-22 never had such systems. DAS was specifically designed for the F-35, you can visually identify the openings for the lenses of the thermal imaging sensors on the F-35. Looking at the F-22 it's clearly lacking any sort of optical sensors. F-35 is just superior to the raptor.

There are sensors on the sides of the front view port that detect stuff to your left and right

Long live the Empire

@@blacksabre5343ave imperator

Nice to see someone remembers the game.

@@UniversalCipher Best Star Wars game ever

@@cw8 Ah, I wish there's a high five emoji.

was looking for this.

Due to the old Tie Fighter game requiring a joystick, players often roll the Tie Fighter to align the target along the up-down axis. This means having visibility only from the top is enough, as players can simply pull the joystick back or forth to take a shot.

Sound in space....

​@@QuantumNovamagically turning ships

@@inventor75 No G-forces, lasers don't look like that, no radiators, and much more.

​@DanielAbeleira 2 thing, 1.they have gravity generators, 2.those arent lasers, but plasma lol

@@ID-9999 Still no inertia, fighter pilots are a thing when computers think faster, dogfights instead of missiles from kilometers away, the hyperdrive is never used as a weapon except for that one scene, I could go on and on. Star Wars is space fantasy not hard science-fiction so that's fine though.

Thissssss!

Sooooo....lore accurate?

This looks more like Squadrons, which I'm not fond of.

Yeah Star wars space combat is supposed to mimic ww2 air and naval battles. More realistic space combat is for The Expanse or to a lesser extent Battlestar Galactica setting

Even in tie fighter, there was a front and back radar screen so you'd know exactly where the enemy was in relation to you.

Over in Star Citizen we call this move Back-Strafing. Pretty handy if you’re an Inferno trying to defend yourself from a Gladius that keeps flying circles around you. Though in our case you have to engage decoupled mode for best results.

Not possible in the X-Wing video game. Not sure about X-Wing Alliance, never liked that game much.

@@UniversalCipher Oops I mean Star Wars Squadrons. The game that allows crossplay between flatscreen and VR which was the big draw for me, let me play online with friends who don't have VR.

@@adamb89 And a glorified tutorial of a "campaign" and a drywall multiplayer that isn't as fresh, unique, and passionately updated as so many multiplayer titles out there. Thanks, but I'm not fond of your recommendation.

@@UniversalCipher OK, show me another Star Wars game that offers crossplay between VR and flat-screen and I'll take it under advisement. In the meantime, you don't have a leg to stand on lol

One stomp on the etheric rudder pedal...

Vader does that in Rebels, too!

There's several in BSG (the reimagine series anyway) because it is based a bit more on science). However, it is popping up more and more in Star Wars, least the animation side - I know Hera in Rebels against a TIE Defender actually cuts engines and only has momentum carrying her as she points back to where it's circled around a Star Destroyer to blast it out of the air. I think they've caught on that besides being accurate it can look cool and all, plus it's easier with CG.

Babylon 5 did that all the time back in the early 90's

​@@NewickedI loved that it was a common tactic of the terran fighters (and effective),

Mute the video for the full experience

No.. there IS sound, in the cockpits.

Or smoke...

@@adamczechowski614 heh, you said cock pit

That’s why explosions are basically poofs and not loud usually as there was air where the explosion happened

/When the X-wing pilot isn't a green as grass noob

They do. They're inside the pilot helm. Also, Imperial fighter pilots wear full spacesuits, which gives them a chance of survival if something bad happens to their ship.

Just think of the "sound in space" problem the way you think of a dialogue scene in a non sci-fi movie where there's a longshot of two people from a distance, but you still hear them talking the same as when the camera is up close. The "sound in space" is just an editing decision where the sound moving through the spaceships themselves (the spaceships themselves are a medium for sound to travel--if you had your ear against the hull, these sounds are what you'd hear) is being displayed for the viewer. At least that's my head-canon. Did that make any sense?

(Actually gone make this its own post and see if anyone sees what I'm saying here...)

It is likely coming from speakers and other sound devices, not from actual space.

pressurized cockpits. =D

Canonically, cockpits in Star Wars have a device that tries to provide sounds to the pilot that imitates what it would sound like if there was air around.

It says "lore accurate", not "scientifically accurate"

If you can write then why can't you read? Also, i presume vibration would reverberate thru the hull of the ship that's generating the sound, so we're just hearing what each pilot would hear, but at the same time

VR is providing such a stark contrast to flat 2d screens in terms of how well we are able to make out scale in it. I remember playing half life and standing in front of 4 meter tall lockers and hallways that are the size of airstrips lol In halo, seeing a grunts be almost eye to eye with me or a brutes hand being able comfortably cover my entire torso like a blanket, a hunter standing tall like a building or a banshee literally being the size of a small bus was insane. There is something about angles that does not translate in 2d at all. You will never unsee the flight hangar sized rooms in video games once you play a 2d designed game in vr. In gears of war, doorways are about 4 meter in hight, almost double the size of a room, just to fit the 3rd person camera. Since the environment is scaled accordingly to mask that, it leads to a hillarious over sizing of literally everything, which cannot be unseen once you found human sized objects and actively compare them. Ah yes surely this 3 meter hospital bed was made for humans

No it is not, because the fighters wouldn't have moved like that.

Well, you have to remember, they’re NOT using *lasers*, it’s just upscaled Blaster tech, so it’s bolts of some type of gas held together by electromagnetic fields.

@@jalakor Sure, but they are literally called lasers in every movie and novel there is. If what you writing were true they should be called e.g. Plasburst Cannons or such.

@@mreszotnik not saying they’re not called lasers in a lot of things, but they’re NOT lasers in the lore. Cold, hard lore says they’re not true lasers, despite whatever they may call it. And common sense tells you they’re not true lasers, they’re shooting individual projectiles, not a continuous beam.

@@jalakor Sure, they are not lasers in the same way lightspeed in Star Wars is not lightspeed. All of that lore was made up after the terms were misused by Lucas who did not care about the realism, he just wanted something people would vaguely understand. The lore - created for the sake of more grounded novels, such as X-wing series and Thrawn's Trilogy made EU more consistent... But also took SW Universe away from original framework of Space Opera into something Lucas never intended to have - sci-fi military fiction. That is why I do not care for the lore - it is bunch of made up nonsense to make some people at ease for liking a movie about space magic for children.

TIE Fighter the game has them.

The Muurian Transports? Yes, I hate those in TIE Fighter.

They would first and foremost die for lack of life support, wouldn't they? Also, only people regularly stealing tie fighters were they're pilots, while deflecting.

Yeah, this is one change in the new canon I enjoyed. Tie fighters stopped sucking. They did suck in the EU because people needed throwaway enemies in video games, and X-wing novels were made partially to boost sales of those games - the description of how fighters work are taken exactly from those games. The Alphabet Squadron novel series and SW: Squadrons game makes it evident that in the new canon Tie fighter is the force to be reckoned with.

​@@mreszotnikBut what about the TIE Avengers and Defenders? Hell, what about the Assault Gunboats and Missile Boats?

​@@UniversalCipher Oh don't get me started on Assault Gunboats. The "Tie Fighter" game should have been called "Assault Gunboat" - since you barely ever flew Tie Fighters, but for 2/3 of campaign you flew the Gunboat which never appeared in any movie ever. TIE/A and TIE/D were godmode craft made for expansion pack. They were so ridiculous they could take down whole capital ships on their own. The missions were - fly alone, shoot 50+ craft on your own. Again TIE/D in SW: Squadrons is the best craft in the game, without being so ridiculously overpowered. Change for the better, IMO.

@@mreszotnik Missile Boat, more like. I think it has 18 missions. Not that that's a bad thing. I'm quite a sucker for such power, especially in FPS games like Half-Life. Eh, the Disney TIE Defender is noticeably slow and lacks the ion cannons and occasional beam weapons from Legends. Also, stop mentioning anything from that canon, I'm not into it anymore.

​@@mreszotnik tie fighters are supposed to be worst in Tie family ig, because they get replaced by Tie interceptors, arent they? And then theres a dozen of other starfighters that could fill its role better, and other TIEs. Thats like complaining that Delta 6 or any Stark War starfighter is worse than something like Jedi Interceptor from Episode 3.

Not a fan of the game, truth be told.

I might just be ass but tracking people while they swing their fighters around like toys was one of the reasons why I wasn’t cut out for the online, the solo campaign was pretty fun though

Not much better than a ps1 cutscene in season 1... B5 got better in season 2-5. Can't wait to see how it looks in the upcoming remake.

Bloody clankers!

...I'm not sure if AR is a thing in the TIE Fighter sim game. Viewports, yes, but that, I'm not sure.