it's the same energy as "we'll handle this" "we'll take the long way"

The real duel of fates we should of gotten

Lmao

fuck yeah, les go boi

P

ElladanKenet true, I want a game of thrones old republic type show so badly

agreed

I'd say it just has better battle scenes, but yes the game was better storywise

This is not even a joke this is pure FACTS

Yep

His name is Kao Cen Darach btw. But yeah Jedi masters should stay away from hangers.

this guy wasn’t a master more so just a battle commander with a padawan i could be wrong tho

@@MajorWrestlingSyndicate he was a Jedi battle master and arguably one of the strongest to ever hold the title. He literally wrote the texts on what being a battle master should entail.

@@QuantumTactics yea think his name was Kao Cen yea he was a master my mistake

@@MajorWrestlingSyndicate Kae was a Jedi Master, but most important, he was THE Battlemaster of the Jedi order, meaning he was at the top back then in terms of dueling proficiency. That's why he is able to almost win vs 2 of the strongest Siths of his era.

"I sense....disney is coming..."

@@79WildFire run

@@79WildFire Disney empires fleet jumps in and death march starts playing lol

the sith empire returning is fine, BUT DISNEY??? RUN FOR YOUR LIVES

@@79WildFire The Disney empire has returned!!

James' YouNiverse Yas

Agreed

You don’t say

easy way for Disney to get the SW fans back *Disney fires Kathleen Kennedy* SW fans: "hmm, maybe you do have some ball's after all" *Disney replaces KK with Jon Favreau* SW fans: "okay, not bad. You're actually making competent choices now" *Disney makes the fanfic trilogy non canon* SW fans: "best outcome you could come up with" *Disney makes EU canon again* SW fans: "and all of those potential stories that you coulda made have come back and you could actually make a lot of money from" *Disney stops stealing fan art and passing it off as their own* SW fans: "finally got your heads outta your ass and realized that stealing is wrong" *Disney actually keeps to their word of being 'woke' and makes it clear to China to stop altering posters including black people by shrinking them down* (dont believe me? look at the normal TFA poster then look at the altered Chinese version) SW fans: "oh wow, you finally stopped being full of shit"

True. True.

none yabizz it’s all about balance

And you'll notice that Satele's master did exactly the same thing Maul did to QuiGon

Lu Qiren it’s a Zabrak thing

@@bobbitsunamitsunami8003 stab in stomach 🤣

This is the perfect conversation

These are the equivalent to shitbox Honda’s with all safety features removed. There likely to blow up, but If they don’t, there fast af

🤣

If I had a credit for every time I heard someone claim they had the fastest ship in the sector, I'd be a very rich man.

- Qui Gon jinn

Plot

Star Wars fans: "hey, Bob Iger. See all that money running away that you could've had if you told Kathleen to not make bold and idiotic choices in decanonizing the EU? yeah, you sure made a smart choice there didn't ya?"

The fact that this came out of the mouth of the CEO of Lucasfilm is nothing but insulting. How dare KK remove the EU from the canon and then say that Star Wars has no source material? It also proves that she doesn't know anything about Star Wars because there is clearly some EU influence in the sequel trilogy (Han and Leia having a son that falls to the dark side, Palpatine briefly returning from the dead etc).

I'm not a Star Wars expert by any means, but it seems that the smartest course of action would have been to use popular EU material that was already tested by fans.

@Neo's danger Yeah it wasn't inspired, it straightward happened. The difference is that in Legends it had lore and ways to make it have sense where as the ST took that sense and lore and threw it out the window.

@@admin.slayerenryu5217 I dunno. Dark Empire wasn't a particularly good story and bringing Palpatine back undermines Anakin's sacrifice. But Dark Empire can be forgiven for the simple fact that it came before Lucas came up with the Chosen One thing. But JJ has no excuse other than maybe the fact that Rian Johnson deprived the trilogy of a credible villain by killing off Snoke.

Because movies are written for angsty children these days.

Simply because most trilogies follow character growth. The character ages with it's targeted audience. If we, the audience, are presented a character that has little room to grow, then we cannot relate as easily. This role is filled by the masters. QuiGon, Old Ben Kenobi, Yoda. They all show that self control and restraint and focus. Those often die off early on to promote growth in the focused characters.

Hera Syndulla

She deserve much more to get her own trilogy than Rey

her master was strong enough to hold those 2 back while she and her buddies escaped, someone had to stay behind and keep those 2 darkside buzzards from coming after them, i really liked this scene too bad the sequel trilogy is shit when it could've had awesome scenes similar to this one

Yeah it's just pure bad ass

Well he is jedi battlemaster

yea, that was pretty awesome indeed

Kao Cen Darach is one of if not the single most underrated Jedi Masters ever. He is fn awesome! If I could find someone to make his lightsaber for me...take my money!!

That and When Satile holds a Lightsaber back with her hands

Not canon :)

Kao Cen Darach's sacrifice on Korriban, Satele Shan's revenge on Alderaan, Belth Alussis's defiance on Bothawui, and Ven Zallow's defense of the Jedi Temple

Me neither

@@mr.equity1120 You're mother isn't canon :)

Whoa what a bunch of children.

Also i think malgus was holding back just a little, to hide the fact that he was really powerful (sith dont show there full strength unless to solidify there position or cow people into submission) but when his master was injured and it was his chance to rise to the top position he allowed his full potential to be seen as there was noone to challenge him

Agree with you 100%! I only wish he had decided to engage Malgus directly rather than continuously fling objects at him after it didn't work the first time. He had the initiative in much of the fight earlier but he let Malgus direct the fight that last time for the reason you mentioned, he was tired. Probably wouldn't have changed anything, but I just want to see him fight more! One of the best Star Wars fights ever.

@@Ravage369 he was visibly exhausted. At this point it was clear that his endurance was running out, and the reason Malgus won was simply because he had more strength left in reserve. He battered straight through every attempt by Kao Cen to defend himself with sheer force, which is why we weren’t able to see any sort of counter attempt being made. Kao Cen is an absolute beast, but these were nigh impossible odds in all honesty.

@@siphoinambao5944 gtfo with all this holding back crap.

And what about the smuggler working with T7?

True

"You must walk a different path" Listen to Not-Alec-Guiness and run to the Not-Millenium-Falcon and join Not-Han-Solo.

+RED Soldier Maybe now they'll run into a Not-Finn and fight a Not-Kylo Ren.

Rafael Si FUCK DIS SHIT IM OUT

Rafael Si omg you had me laughing to hard at that lmfao!!😂😂

Helps that he was also a battlemaster of the Jedi order, which was a rank given to the best lightsaber wielders in the entire order.

Y. Moroboshi They didn’t have to be the ‘best’, but they had to master all the 7 forms of lightsaber combat, to qualify.

Given a double blade can be ignited to allow the wielder to use only a single blade it only makes sense and as already said he has mastered all seven forms

But you forget the better one krell

Dual wielded dual bladed lightsabers

I have no freaking idea what Corellian Ale is, but i sense your hatred of Disney, so i'm with you!

@@KingExituS Let the hate flow through you, it's give you strength & focus. We must defeat the Galactic Disney Empire! It is the only way to restore balance to the fandom.

@@AutumnExplorer you made my day, bro 😂

@@user-ge6uk3ll6p So did yours! 😎 👍

I prefer Alderaan wine myself the planet might be gone but there are still tonnes of the product left, and it's some damn good product

Seems pretty realistic too. It’s pretty common for characters to never try a certain move again just because it was blocked/evaded once. Trying it again just because it did not work for once seems more real.

LOL yh

BlackSkullArmor Hahahahaha 😂

lol

good chair, good chair, great view of... utter blackness

*Sith fleet appears* oh that darkness....... shit

Robot Chicken Man! Yes! Lol

Walter Mercado Because they don’t give their characters any life or personality besides real basic shit. They have no flaws and perks, they have no goals, no ambitions they have nothing of what makes a good character. They simply exist and do shit for the plot. Honestly I liked TFA and was pretty hyped for TLJ. But we all know how that went.

@@Omarthedemigod I disagree only in that Adam Driver killed it as Kylo Ren. For all the faults those new movies have, and I could spend a week counting them, Adam Driver gave one of the best acting performances in any Star Wars movie.

Elthenar Adam Driver as Kylo Ren is the only thing I loved about the sequels. For all the shit TLJ is Kylo Ren got great development in that movie when destroying his mask and basically saying he’ll be his own man. Then TROS ruined that development by giving him his mask back which ruins the development he had in TLJ.

@@Omarthedemigod I disagree about the mask. He ditched it. Then tried to repair it and put it back on. It all serves to show how confused he was about who and what he was supposed to be. That wasn't truly resolved until TLS when he had the vision of Han and chucked his gimpsaber into the ocean. That said, it wasn't the writing or plot for Kylo Ren that worked so well, it was the super human efforts of Adam Driver to make what he was given work. With a lesser talent, Kylo could have been as bad as Prequel Anakin.

Cause you clearly didnt pay attention to the movies? Dumbass.

Total Force Unleashed vibes

He was the battlemaster of the Jedi order, kao Cen Darach

if only he had the high ground

fbi agent Let’s not get crazy now; “power corrupts” and all that.

@@iowaclass5657 But he didn't have enough power. I think he should have at least tapped into the high ground power as a last-ditch effort.

Battlemaster of the jedi order for ya

Can't have been that much of a prisoner, they didn't even take away his guns!

What kind of prison system did they have in the old republic? The honour system?

Did you notice that Ripley's shuttle in Alien looks exactly like this ship from Old Republic?

Preston why are u here, we have to take back the Commonwealth, stop fooling around.

*Sits in Vetribird* Garvy, get in. We got an entire settlement to save.....

I love that you bring this up! Niman is probably my favorite form, but so many people drag it because the vast majority of its practitioners don’t dedicate significant time to developing their skills and so don’t really show that many impressive feats.

It’s sooooo much better than episodes 7,8,& 9 too

Wielding a dual blade saber and a single blade saber was a one of a kind fighting style.

would you shut up

This is some of the nerdiest shit ive ever read lol.... XD

Underrated

Same bro

censored!!!

@@LCM-vo1rj *sigh*... And there it is.

@@LCM-vo1rj are you sure ?

Same. Just as good as the first time I saw it.

Yup. :)

This is quite honestly one of the greatest cinematics I have ever seen.

well it is old cause it is the "old" republic

same

The Sith were weaker. The dark side is easy and fast, users can gain power much faster. But the light side is stronger. Obi wan said it best: those who oppose the dark side are stronger than you could ever imagine. The force yearns for balance, but In nature it leans towards the light

great comment

That’s why Darth Krayts Sith lasted longer and were stronger than previous Sith Empires. The Rule of One had made it so instead of apprentice and master all the Sith were under one rule the rule of The Emperor. There were many Sith and most of em didn’t try to kill each other for power they worked together as a team. Now yeah Darth Wyrlook “killed” Krayt to become emperor but ofc he didn’t finished the job and got killed by Krayt. Krayts Sith had the Jedi on the run even if they did fail their Jedi Purge. But in the end the light side of the force prevails like you said. Cade Skywalker has killed Krayt and the Sith got demolished after that.

they should make a movie based on the Sith Triumvirate

My argument is simple. Evolution. Evolution and natural selection always kills off the weak in favor for the survival of the fittest and its been working so far. Sith doctrine always ensures that power is gained, never lost. The rule of two (Introduced later on) was an extreme form of that. (Keeping in mind that it was high treason to murder your Master prior to the rule of two. Promotion was earned through accomplishment, not murder)

It definitely feels like a no-brainer to hire people with martial arts backgrounds, I mean Disney hired Tom Holland as Spider-Man because he’s a skilled gymnast so why dot get a skilled duelist for your Jedi / Sith?

They have their own arc in the cinematics trailers. With her beating him on alderaan after being outclassed in nearly every encounter.

@@macaronipanda9516 but it didn’t end on Alderaan. They both survived and the war ended. That’s when the game starts. During the Cold War when the empire and republic secretly have battles and conflicts under the table.

nah. We need a trilogy about the Old Republic in general

Are you sure you want more Disney Star Wars movies? Have you seen what they did you established characters that were great?

@@metroplex7986 we only want them if George Lucas, Filoni, and Favreau are involved.

But is it canon?

Obi-Wan Kenobi Youre still alive!?

We sith be back the false sith is fallen kylon Ren are die

Hello there!

Obi-Wan Kenobi Are you disappointed that the Jedi didn’t greet the Sith with a polite ‘Hello there’?

Because that'd require effort and creativity, two things which Disney never possessed to begin with.

2 words; Kathleen Kennedy. So long as she remains we will never see an actual faithful SW film

@@DraculaCronqvist It is not Disneys fault it is Kathleen Kennedy, the only thing I could see Disney do stop a film like this is because it is too dark and they want familiy friendly films.

@@jonasseorum5471 And you don't see the problem with that statement? Star Wars was never squarely inside the family friendly territory.

@@DraculaCronqvist Exactly. Just take a look at the Clone Wars. There are quite a lot of brutal scenes.

His style heavily reminds me of Vader, just pure aggression and rage and overwhelming their foes until all they can do is die.

@@wallywest4727 Sounds like a combination of forms 5 and 7

That’s definitely form Five, using very aggressive offensive attacks with minimal defense, which is why the Jedi master was winning the first half of the fight by keeping him on the defensive. Soon as he grabbed his master’s lightsaber, and charged at him, enraged and using the force to amplify his abilities, it was over.

He is basicly Vader if he did cocaine every day

@@wallywest4727 Vader was inspired by Malgus

Or when you hear the Obi-Wan/Anakin duel music.

The use of music from the movies in small doses to make it unique is very awesome

Or Darth Vader's theme.

Do anybody know what this soundtrack called 4:31.

@@JnEricsonx it's called Battle of the Heroes

Rian Johnson has and had no respect for Star Wars nor any comprehension

@Leonardo Bautista oh that definitely happened but probably not they he thought it would

Legends is full of cliches, pretty much whole OT is one big cliche.

@@MkZuO12345 proof that cliches arent by definition a bad thing

@@MkZuO12345 the legends tell a better story than the shit sequels

That moment in the ending is a traditional Sith moment - an apprentice training is finished only, if it can kill it's own master. Some hold back the final strike, and instead of killing it, just damage it on a level, from it cannot heal back to the level, where it can make a proper revenge, but only, if they have a place for them in their future plans.

I don't mean to be that person but it's Korriban*😂😂

@@JC19171 hush they dont need to know ;)

You phrased that extraordinarily beautifully ;')

Indeed, it is the way of all pathetic jedi to die at the hands of a Sith.

Side effect of the whole "there is no emotion" thing. You just become monotone lol

I know right like this is literally your sworn enemies returning after 1300 years of exile and you’re just like “Aw shit, it’s those punks we beat yesterday”

Look man they only had 7 minutes in the trailer and they wanted to get to the moneyshot as soon as possible, cut em some slack lmao

Same reaction Boromir had when he saw the Cave Troll in Fellowship.

@@darthrevan2961 and genicoided yesterday.

Juniorboy 18 in seconds we see both masters exchange blows, attempt to judge the enemy apprentices, and the Battlemaster decided to switch it back without a second thought knowing the Sith master was a Battlemaster like he was

You know the only reson the jedi master loss was because the sith apperantice made it unfair by knocking all his lightsabers away and cutting him while the jedi was occupied by the recoil.

@@seomahazuri8999 he showed his true rage he couldnt fight him with a clear mind alone Darth magus would've been killed other wise he even killed his master because a apprentice killing a battle master while your master is wounded dying that's weak in a siths presence

@@seomahazuri8999 or you know because the jedi decided to rely on throwing stuff at the sith instead of focusing on the lightsaber combat. seriously the sith only lose due to arrogance and infighting, they have almost always been shown to be far better tacticians and duelist than the jedi.

3:33

Ethan Mitchell just please shut the fuck up

Why don’t like my comment then fuck off

@@ethanmitchell7479 you have to tolerate his opinion because if you don't "I can offer you a battle you have no chance of winning".

@@vernusred4757 Well sombody played Half life recently

@@vernusred4757 stop playing the black Mesa incident lmfao

BOOLIN ROYALE that’s because it is. And not just yours, it’s all of ours as well

+freakycookie101 *_*

+freakycookie101 Imagine how difficult that would be to program and animate without it being wonky as fuck.

+PazzoCane22 It would just be like Arkham City with lightsabers. It wouldn't be too difficult for a big corporation like Disney to make.

+PazzoCane22 Look up the trailer gameplay for "For Honor" by ubisoft. Imagine that with lightsabers

Yeah, already seen it. For Honor looks damn amazing. Also, in reply to the Arkham gameplay style. Look up Cancelled Darth Maul Game. There was a game in the works and there's test footage. News is EA might pick it back up again.

True. And I believe he had already surpassed his Master in power. He already had signs of dark side corruption (pale white skin and yellow eyes) while his Master didn't. At least I think he didn't. I can't tell if the Master's eyes are yellow

@@lishishur293 His Master is a Sith Pureblood. They’re the race that the term ‘Sith’ is born from and the Dark Side is literally in their blood. They are one of the few that can reap the rewards of the Dark Side with very little negatives outside of any damage they sustain in battle.

@@HeroAndReporter The Sith chick from the Revan novel would disagree

this comment section proves you're not the only one coming back...

Same.

@@19192021 It is trailer for online old republik?

Anddddd.... 7 months later I’m back again lmao

I think John favro is doing the old republic time line because d and d thankfully bowed out. I would like to see Star Wars free of the Skywalker tropes and dive into the mythology of the old republic it is so varied and full of interesting characters which honestly are way more powerful and better crafted

Because it is.

And the old ones...

@Palpatine McSenateFace All hail to Bioware.

Palpatine McSenateFace Disney have tried making Star Wars like their Marvel films which for Star Wars doesn’t work they should kept with the source material rather than making it something it isn’t

That’s because it is

It's 2022, still gives chills

@@yoloboloyolo888 it's 2023, still gives chills!

well said totally agree

***** Well, in real life you don't use lightsabers at all. I meant it's nice that they put some practical thinking into the choreography beyond being flashy.

+ZeD The funny part is, when I was a child, I always wanted to see that happen. Use only one blade on a double-bladed lightsaber and extend the second blade just in time to finish off the opponent. So when I saw it in this scene, it was amazing.

turning your back to your opponent = not understanding sword fighting to any degree lol

Hi Well, sure, if you refuse to look at any of the other examples I used. The guy's a force user. They can fight blindfolded.

It's Industrial Light and Magic (ILM). They also did the space scene in Avatar. At the beginning of the movie.

Oops I've made a mistake, it's not ILM, it's Blur, they are the ones who made that Avatar scene.

They also made the Opening cutscene of DC Universe Online

Exactly, It would be so awesome to see

Agreed. The troopers looks DOPE.

Negotiations were short.

Rather have the trade negotiations than the sequels

fam, FACTS. years later its the same feeling.

Maybe because it already has... this is basically the Darth Maul fight from Phantom Menace.

@@Graybat12 facts. Thats why the feel to the phantom menace final 2 vs 1 battle is my fav duel to this day

I like to think of 2:25 as “Malgus and Vindican have pulled up to the club...” lol, just my take 😆

RUMORS FOR 2022 FOR THE OLD REPUBLIC MOVIES

That makes zero sense, given how these trailers were the perfect combination of everything the movies were not.

@@DropkickNationYou'd rather Rey and the OMG shes so strong in the force BS

@@DarthHadeous No, I'd rather tell you that the best SW material was never in ANY of the movies, with maybe the exception of the first two OG films.

@@DropkickNation I always thought the OG movie didn't have any source material... Lucas blended fantasy with sci-fi movies/ series that he watched beforehand. And there were no plans for a sequel (nor a trilogy), it has a self-contained story. Sequels came because it was very successful. People in 70's and 80's seemed to know how to make a trilogy though, a fine art a multi-billion company can't master in 2020... Disney trilogy director recently said "it would be better if we had a plan for the trilogy". no comment.

It's not just about respecting the source material, it's also about people who truly love the source material and sought to enrich it. The people who made the sequel trilogy only care about hijacking a popular merchandise to insert their political views not to tell an engaging story. that's why they corrupt the original trilogy's 3 main characters just to enhance their new one.

And it isn't being removed either, unlike something else I could name.....

As someone who's never played an MMO before and started playing recently, I agree. I fucking love this game and the Old Republic era. We need a modern game set in that time period.

But it would be ridiculously expensive

As if with the help of social media and word of mouth hysteria people won't flock to watch it

Well the new films aren't exactly cheap to make and even though this animation is amazing, expensive quality, they'd save money hiring lesser-known voice actors instead of big name actors (even mid tier actors can ask for a lot of money) and not paying all the usual film necessities (cameras, stages, costumes, etc). I don't think it would be that much different financially than the live-action ones they're doing now. I think it would take forever though. Supposedly a single scene that spans a few seconds inn Blizzard's awesome CG work takes several months, so I can imagine an entire 90 minute film would take several years easily.

Except they had some pretty well known voice actors work on this game.

This is fucking Star Wars so easy payday. Why missing this opportunity Disney?

Karen Catizone I like your style and your chills, Karen.

@@jjrhs ummm

Talent without training is nothing.

@@JoethebigItalianguy Talent without training is luck. Training without talent is skill. Training with talent is genius. But no talent can solidify mastery.

Facts

Duel of the Fates is basically the Star Wars version of "why do i hear boss music?"

Correction the Sith are about to go down

LOL AWESOME

Play of the game

Mcree from alternate dimension

Space McCree

Drake Jellison McCrees ancestor

Ikr, so glorious

absolutely!!!!

I wouldnt care if it was a cg star wars movie if it looked like this

Darth Revan I'd actually prefer a full movie that looked like this but it would cost aaaa lot of money

Dom Harte as if they wouldn't make it back once its released.

Dom Harte you mean it would cost more to make a full CGI movie than a live one?

And Vader in the OT.

At least Vader had the excuse of being stubs kept alive in a purposely shitty and uncomfortable robot suit by his asshole master.

@@AngryJT your opinion doesn't count unless because you don't have game chair.

@@vernusred4757 Game chairs are for people with special needs.

Compared to the OR era, the Jedi Order of the CW era(save for Yoda and Mace) were pretty laughable

+Olly Tempest It also costed a lot.

+Darkninja San and the prequels didn't?

Olly Tempest Making 2 hours of this animation would cost way more than the prequels.

+Darkninja San it would still be sick though

Olly Tempest Precisely.

Yes

They really shouldn't. They'll just ruin that too.

Monarch BLUE Agreed.

@@monarchblue4280 They need to have no one who laid a finger on the sequels touch the Old Republic stuff. Not even the woman who was running or whoever. The stories are right there. There's unlimited potential and a world of possibility. Just put someone passionate who doesn't care about subverting expectations unless the expectation is that it will be bad.

They are going to

I swear. Star Wars spans 100s of years. There's literally SO MUCH

+Thrashgu I Good one. :)

+Thrashgu I Star Wars - The Old Republic: A Clint Eastwood origin story

Eastwood: A Star Wars Story

Do you feel lucky, Jedi?

Thrashgu I schvung

Better than Andor as well.@@user-wz9rf4dk5b

Agreed, been watching this trailer for years just because I admire his fighting style and look.

Vindican is a sith pureblood he's of the same species that founded the sith order his appeal to me is the role he plays in Malgus' uprising he is one of the reasons his apprentice turned out the way he did

@@thedude3065 elaborate?

@@andresv.8880 by shadowing a sith of greater wisdom an experiences apprentices typically use them as a blueprint for their own standards of how they should go about their own reign, be it accepting or rejecting everything the master in question values Malgus sought above all else to be without equal Vidican however was a nostalgic he sought to bring about an era not unlike the Sith Golden Age, before the great hyperspace war, during the reign of the first Emperor, Marka Ragnos this era was a utopia for the sith Vidican desired to retread on past glories Malgus however sought to expand upon that, he favored an ambition to seize whatever he wanted and flatten anyone who got in his way(which is inevitable, with as large of a reputation as a would be emperor and lifelong sith lord would amass a plethora of enemies) ultimately he has been thwarted due t his knack for making enemies he's been defeated by the likes of The Hero of Tython, Darth Nox, Thexann, and Arcann he had his grand plan put on hiatus when he was frozen in carbonite and then brainwashed by the dark council

@@thedude3065 I see you're a man of culture, who's played SWTOR (which I play too). (Also, sorry for only replying months later) If there's only one thing I hate about SWTOR lore is that they contradicted Kreia in KOTOR 2 about the "true sith" hidden. Kreia obviously referred to the Purebloods Sith like Vindican, and she mentioned them like they were so powerful, even more than Revan and Nihilus and etc. And when they just kill Vindican and shows the rise of Malgus here (a human), it symbolize the complete opposite. KOTOR 2 made us think that the true ancient sith were still around, but SWTOR writers simply just... Gave up the idea? Idk. They gave me the impression that there was multiple great powerful pureblood sith there, but in reality only Vitiate was TRULY powerful. That's one more reason why I see Vindican as a wasted character, he could be the symbol of the hidden true Sith Empire. But no, we get Malgus, who's a human, vader lookalike. That make SWTOR's Empire looking a copy of OT Empire.

Yeah, but then they'd have to ignore the "established canon", since a crapload of it runs contrary to TOR. Cortosis, for example, isn't lightsaber resistant anymore, it just protects against blasters. All lightsaber crystals are "kyber crystals" and blade color = Force alignment (both of which are two of the most retarded explanations offered). Korriban is now "Moraband" (which sounds dumber) and the only saving grace there is that Disney has grudgingly allowed it to have been Korriban in the past; Malachor is a place, but it's not Malachor V and it's not destroyed as it was in KOTOR II. Some of the best stuff in the Star Wars EU, the Old Republic Era, has been wiped away because of Disney. Not even bringing back Thrawn makes up for it (especially since it means he's in that godawful Rebels cartoon).

I'll add that the absolute greatest Star Wars character of all time isn't Thrawn (although he's definitely in the top 10)- it's Kreia. And she, too, was removed from canon. A true travesty.

just in the style of these trailers. it would be fucking awesome

Luke Frederiks Disney is too nice to make a good idea

mr hi254 Haha

"the Shit Empire has returned"

It does sound like that too.

All hail the glorious Shit Empire

The Legend couldn't even win a victory against 4,000 men with 50,000 mate. Embarrasing

Gonna be honest, the first time I saw this I thought that's what he actually said!

Swtor is not as good as you think. It shits on the old Republic lore and has mediocre gameplay at best however it does have a few shining moments.

@@mrshadow7738 For an mmorpg, it's not bad. However, if someone wants a proper videogame of the Old Republic era, I'd introduce them to Kotor 2 first. As for the convoluted lore in swtor, none of it is canon anyway since Disney has denounced the EU, including TOR. Swtor is just WoW with a Star Wars skin.

@@CelestialDraconis completely agree.

No the not darkside but Disney.

@@mrshadow7738 Lore is fine, only people who got upset are those who couldn't handle Revan being anything less than perfect.

She does have a nice caboose, but I'm not into Head tentacles.

@@slewone4905 same

Pretty much how it should be

It would've been much better.

+ 1 always imagined old Luke would have been more like this. After watching the Last Jedi I immediately though of this cinematic and what could have been an epic Snoke/Kylo vs Luke/Rey battle. In addition, if similar to the cinematic, she would have given Anakin's lightsaber to Luke and he would have gone out with both his green and blue saber. Giving Kylo possession of these 2 lightsabers could set up his struggle against the light further if they wanted to continue that storyline, as these 2 lightsabers can be considered lightside artifacts.

Rudbin that would be better than the death we got of Luke and Snoke

In just one paragraph OP has managed to write a better final act than Rian Johnson did. Didn't believe that was possible but, bravo.

The issue is Disney making it a 'selling point', strong *realistic* female characters have existed for a long time in Star Wars. Satele's grandmother, Bastila Shan, Fay, Siri Tachi, Ahsoka Tano, hell, Leia in the first five minutes of her appearance shows much more nuance than Rey shows in the entire first movie of her debut. Rey, and most of the Sequel Trilogy characters are mostly one dimensional, which is a shame, because the concept of the ST had so much potential and it failed so horribly.

@@cubeddoubled1543 bruh Leia killed her slaver with its own chain, while wearing the outfit used to humiliate her. Total alpha bitch moment there

Elless Dee Right. Beatrice Kiddo ( Kill Bill ), Riply ( Alien ), Alice (Resident Evil) all awesome female leads with plenty of MALE fans.

Elless Dee hm... I’ve been doing some KZfaq searches... apparently they didn’t try talking about her and ray seems like a topic a KZfaqr can do right?

@@cubeddoubled1543 The problem was they didnt add the same level of internal conflict and doubt wed seen from the successful characters, Leia started out as a rather arrogant character who the others struggled to get along with, she grew from that and became a more charismatic figure, Han starteed out selfish and only concerned with covering his own back, this changed to him being a leader in the republic fighting for a cause bigger than himself, Luke was a self doubting character who grew to have a great deal of self belief and faith in those around him. Rather than give us something new the new triology not only rehashed this but reverted everyone back to who they were before A New Hope, it made the prior trilogy feel pointless given that we start the force awakens in the same place as A new hope - personally id have liked a more equal footing between the First Order and the New Republic in a post empire galaxy ,

eh, couldn't have said it better myself.. ;(

ROS was pretty cool compared to 7 and 8

Mythic wahhhhh it didn’t have this and wahhhh kylo didn’t do that and wahhhhhh Rey is a palpatine wahhh wahhh wahhhh! Shut your punk ass up! Stop crying and complaining . Who gives a fawk about what some nerdy ass thinks of the films . Did Lucas film force you to go watch the movies ? Hmm lemme see .. NOPE! Stop being a bitch about it 💩🤦🏻‍♂️🖕🏻

You mean rey swinging her lightsaber like a child with a heavy baseball bat isn’t good enough for you? Psh

lol yeh same

You should read Fate Of The Jedi book series bruh. Luke kicks some major ass especially in Legacy Of The Force Inferno. In Inferno Master Skywalker totally kick's Jacen's now Darth Caedus's ass when he is saving his son Ben from Caedus and Jacen had more training than Luke after going away on a 5 year journey to learn from other force users after the Vong War

@@dancastro4732 luke is the most powerful mortal force user in the mythos

Yes he is and badass too

The one he killed was obviously the lesser skilled one.

@@zain6008 if he was lesser than his apprentice he'd likely be dead already

It won't be happening now, The official canon has now changed bits and pieces such as the Jedi originate from Tython to some planet called Jedah now.

Geek Galaxy know what? F DISNEY! MAKE THE SITH EMPIRE (or at least vitiate and tython) CANON! i never liked the republic or jedi anyway. AND THEY HAD TO MAKE TYTHON'S REPLACEMENT NAMED AFTER JEDI.

People. The EU was never canon. George Lucas always said that himself. Parts of the EU are cool, but most of it is pretty shitty. Give the new canon some time to develop, and quit being fanboy trash.

Colin Poole Star Wars Fanboys are no doubt the bigges assholes ever, they made Lucas sell it because of the abuse, that been said Episode VII was almost identical to IV, I think it's fair to criticize it.

Agreed!