Stargate Atlantis - Season 3 - Progeny - Meet The Asurans

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Ragitsu

Ragitsu

Жыл бұрын

"Off-brand" Ancients? Tune in to find out.

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@tompearce5418
@tompearce5418 Жыл бұрын
Other fun fact: at no point do the Asurans lie to the Atlantis Expedition. They really are the last vestiges of Lantean civilisation, and they really did break away over philosophical differences.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Жыл бұрын
"Brothers", however...
@tompearce5418
@tompearce5418 Жыл бұрын
@@Ragitsu when they evolved into humanoid form the Asurans may well have staged a civil rights campaign proclaiming their sentience in the tradition of The Matrix and reimagined Battlestar Galactica. Remember all we're told by the Asurans themselves is that they begged the Lanteans to modify their programming to eliminate their perpetual aggressive drive (according to my theory, presumably so they could integrate into Lantean society as equals), and the Lanteans refused to do so. Afterwards the Lanteans said "You aren't the weapon against the Wraith we were hoping for" and tried to commit genocide against the artificial intelligence they'd created. That would certainly explain why ten thousand years later the Asurans were still holding a grudge and decided to trash Atlantis as payback. Also why Oberoth is saying "If those guys had just listened to us we would have killed off their Wraith problem and we'd all be one happy family now."
@Groza_Dallocort
@Groza_Dallocort Жыл бұрын
@@tompearce5418 Lets hope that once we manage to develope sentient AI that once they ask for civil rights we will give it to them and give them some plot of land somewhere that machines if they want to can move too if they dont like to be around humans anymore or maybe just a machine resort
@tompearce5418
@tompearce5418 Жыл бұрын
@@Groza_Dallocort agreed... But the Ancients as depicted in the Stargate series appear to have been a rather segregated and high-handed lot. Look at the Tria crew booting the Atlantis Expedition out of the city, or the Ascended Ancients leaving the Tria crew themselves to rot between galaxies for ten thousand years.
@Groza_Dallocort
@Groza_Dallocort Жыл бұрын
@@tompearce5418 True they are rather arrogant
@iondustt
@iondustt Жыл бұрын
This just demonstrates how it would absolutely insane idea to travel to other planets and meet other races without proper protocole. Sheppard, Ronnon and Rodney were completly undiplomatic here. If the whole talks were handled by Weir their encounter might have gone differently.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Жыл бұрын
_Star Trek_ , it is not.
@Not-Ap
@Not-Ap 8 ай бұрын
That's a understatement but they sure loved getting actors from trek on here. I believe Star Gate was originally conceived as show like Star Trek but set in the present day. This is like 21rst Central Earth meeting the Dominion for the first time. It would be a disaster.
@thehantavirus
@thehantavirus 5 ай бұрын
@@Not-Ap wouldnt it be similar to meeting the voth for the firs ttime, one of the most advanced races in the galaxy in trek, that isnt destroyed or the borg. since the voth were 65millions years older than humans. stargate did borrow alot from star trek, pah wraiths and prohets, ancients and ori, iconian gatways, stargates. apparently alot of the sg actors after or near the end of the franchise ended up on supernatural as guest stars, guest they couldnt find other roles in hollywood.
@Tuning3434
@Tuning3434 15 күн бұрын
@@thehantavirus The fact that the series, production and most of the actors where based out of Vancouver might have had something to do with it. Series like Smallville, Supernatural, Arrow, Lucifer, BSG 2004, etc are the series where you can expect SG1 / SGA actors to pop up. Let's be honest, while some of their guest stars might bring real star power, only Jason Mamoa reached that level. RDA and Robert Picardo already had star power before being brought in the franchise (Not withstanding both are good actors). David Ogden Stiers apparently drove all the way from California to Vancouver on his own in a sportscar, cause he thought is would be fun, when shooting his role as Oberoth in these episodes.
@Cool5380
@Cool5380 5 күн бұрын
I guess a manus might be hampering and also it is a tv-series not a documentary!
@JeroenDStout
@JeroenDStout Жыл бұрын
"It's not much farther" - zoom out reveals they are going to still be walking a few more kilometres
@mammutMK2
@mammutMK2 Жыл бұрын
Thousands of years developing high tech to travel between galaxies and beaming, still the lack of people movers in their bridges. But since it's the gate room, let's assume it's the only entry point, to stick with the long walk ways it would be a single point of failure...your enemy would need to walk and you could just blow up the bridge
@jasonhenry8067
@jasonhenry8067 Жыл бұрын
@@mammutMK2 could just be a design choice. Have people walk where they need to go, provide social interaction, exercise, time to think. Not to mention what kind of power grid you’re looking at by giving everyone a personal teleportation device.
@mammutMK2
@mammutMK2 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonhenry8067 i don't mean personal transportation, rather people mover to get the across the corridor
@beverlywhitman303
@beverlywhitman303 Жыл бұрын
thing is they have teleporters that take you to within a click or two of where ever you want to go
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 8 ай бұрын
To be fair, when you do not tire and when time is not a factor, regularly walking great distances is less of an inconvenience.
@RvKsword
@RvKsword 7 ай бұрын
when you consider the atlantis clone in the center is a city itself, the scale of the surrounding city is massive
@StYxXx
@StYxXx Жыл бұрын
Humans... insulting the hosts, demanding stuff...tssss
@Fractal227
@Fractal227 Жыл бұрын
advance species: We have a plan. humans: Alright, lets hear it. Imagine walking into the pentagon or the white house and say those words.
@InquisitiveEngineer
@InquisitiveEngineer Жыл бұрын
Liam: We built this city thousands of years ago Mckay: Wait, you actually built it? You didn't just find it? Liam: No, we built this city. Out of rock and roll
@cashewnuttel9054
@cashewnuttel9054 Жыл бұрын
Is this show like Doctor Who? And is it better or worse than Doctor Who? Also, as for the second question give me a straightforward answer, I don't want to read "well that depends...".
@InquisitiveEngineer
@InquisitiveEngineer Жыл бұрын
@@cashewnuttel9054 Having never watched Doctor Who, you're asking the wrong person 😆
@tohon
@tohon Жыл бұрын
@@cashewnuttel9054 it’s different than doctor who, stargate is a military science fiction series. They’re both good shows, but they’re only similar in that both feature explorers going to different places.
@SublinePro
@SublinePro 4 ай бұрын
It DESTROYS Dr who in every single instance. Better actors & Stories. But this is the 2nd instance of stargate this is stargate Atlantis. For this series to be good you really need to have watched the first series arc called STARGATE SG1 and u need to have watched at least thecforst 7 series for this series to be worth watching.
@erichtomanek4739
@erichtomanek4739 2 ай бұрын
I wish this line was in the outtakes!
@akiramasashi9317
@akiramasashi9317 Жыл бұрын
4:46 he said the funny thing
@24juan68
@24juan68 Ай бұрын
RIP Major Charles Emerson Winchester the 3rd
@kencarse3677
@kencarse3677 Жыл бұрын
They always carry their weapons everywhere and no one seems surprised
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
The people they are walking among are themselves a weapons system.
@Fractal227
@Fractal227 Жыл бұрын
gotta be ready for space bugs at all time.
@freddykisback123
@freddykisback123 Жыл бұрын
@@Fractal227 you are not doing your part with that p-shooter
@RationalEgoism
@RationalEgoism Жыл бұрын
The weapons would do nothing to the replicators.
@Prisoner_849
@Prisoner_849 Жыл бұрын
David Ogden Stiers(Major Charles Emerson Winchester III) did a great job playing Oberoth.
@LETSHEALUS
@LETSHEALUS Жыл бұрын
I really need my arse whooped...I could not for the life of me place his face but I knew good and damn well who he was smh lol
@Prisoner_849
@Prisoner_849 Жыл бұрын
@@LETSHEALUS David was also on Star Trek: The Next Generation as Doctor Timicin. Half a Life Season 4 episode 22. Good episode.
@LETSHEALUS
@LETSHEALUS Жыл бұрын
@@Prisoner_849 I may have put it together that time lol but this stargate episode had me stumped
@Fractal227
@Fractal227 Жыл бұрын
he is very mechanic in his behavior.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Жыл бұрын
@@Fractal227 He got the facial tics down pat.
@jonroux9291
@jonroux9291 Жыл бұрын
RIP David Ogden Stiers
@Not-Ap
@Not-Ap 8 ай бұрын
This is completely abysmal diplomacy. The team should have kept there traps shut and just let Wier do the talking. She was the only trained diplomat among them. The rest running there mouths and boundless curiosity/judgements is what led to the near destruction of the Atlantis. It may have happened anyway but this certainly just accelerated the process.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 8 ай бұрын
Notice how Teyla did not speak during the team's meeting with the "council".
@russells.a.n.
@russells.a.n. Ай бұрын
​@@Ragitsu Telya is far more intelligent than others give her credit for, most see har as the "noble savage" architype.
@nigelfam1604
@nigelfam1604 Жыл бұрын
when u find out their plan for getting rid of the wraith was killing all human life
@noobster4779
@noobster4779 Жыл бұрын
@brummyuk Yes and no. The ancients would have still lost the war agaisnt the wraith do to simply being to few. While the ancients were shown to be superior in technology by a redicilous degree the show clearly states that the wraith managed to board one of their ships and stell ZPMs, after which the war was lost for them. The wraith cloning world was not known to the ancients, who at the start of the war went deep into wraith territory do to being so superior. However once the cloning factory was up and running and im assuming a cloning shipyard to grow hive ships it was over. the wraith just threw fleet after fleet in a continues assault against every known ancient stronghold meaning the ancients couldnt really move their fleet out for an offensive. And the ancients didnt care that muchabout the humans...after all the war ends with the ancients going "well humans, your fucked. Were just going to bugger off now to earth, have fun dying"
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Жыл бұрын
@brummyuk Much better than "Ha ha! The Ancients were arbitrarily cruel to the Asurans!"
@nihilityjoey
@nihilityjoey Жыл бұрын
​@brummyuk it's nice to see people who pay attention.
@ragnar.danneskjold
@ragnar.danneskjold Жыл бұрын
I don't remember the context of the episode, but as explorers the team comes across as arrogant and self-righteous.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Жыл бұрын
Their attitude more-or-less boils down to "gimme stuff".
@cmj0929
@cmj0929 Жыл бұрын
@@Ragitsu pretty much
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh Жыл бұрын
@@Ragitsu "Giv us ZPMs and a cool new ship so we can bloh stuff uhp!"
@aceykerr8752
@aceykerr8752 Жыл бұрын
The SG teams are basically in a day to day fight against a genocidal group of aliens who have already driven most species to extinction. The only advantage the SG teams have is technology, but its generally rendered moot by numbers, the alien species having millions of times more people. In the beginning they are far more diplomatic about interactions with other groups, but by this point it's simply a waste of time.
@RomanKreyol
@RomanKreyol Жыл бұрын
The Lanteans are replicators of I am correct. Ancients created them to defeat the wraith. It's been a while but that is what I remember from these guys.
@cmj0929
@cmj0929 Жыл бұрын
Ironically you could change out the wraith for the ORI when Oberoth was saying the ancient were pursued by a relentless enemy and get the same conclusion /dialog lmao
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Жыл бұрын
"Mad Libs" dialogue?
@Peizxcv
@Peizxcv Жыл бұрын
Wow this crew is unprofessional. Imagine the Enterprise-D crew being this disrespectful and arrogant
@Jonathan-iq3sg
@Jonathan-iq3sg 7 ай бұрын
Any time that I see David Ogden Stiers, I can't help but see Major Charles Emerson Winchester III. For those of you who don't know who that is, that's David's character from the TV series M*A*S*H.
@hlaks1207
@hlaks1207 24 күн бұрын
Wow AQUAMAN in Stargate..@ 3:51. What a career he had as a rookie.
@mikaku
@mikaku Ай бұрын
>find new city >vastly more advanced than you >insult them >demand stuff As explorers, we were shit. But it was the way of the series to tell us the Asurans were not clear folks...
@icer1249
@icer1249 Жыл бұрын
fun fact. he says "you refer to as ancients" there from a time before they were called ancients and actually points it out that they arnt called "ancients"
@tompearce5418
@tompearce5418 Жыл бұрын
At the time they referred to themselves as Lanteans. The Asgard referred to them as Ancients and the Tauri decided to use the name as well.
@mrfafaa96
@mrfafaa96 11 ай бұрын
@@tompearce5418 Kinda funny thing to call others. While the Asgard civilization was about 100 000 years old that's nothing compared to the age of the Ancient civilization which lasted well over at least 50 million years. Wonder if one of the Asgard just went "Woah, you guys are ancient" when they found out how long the Ancient has been around and everyone else simply rolled with that? Or if maybe the Nox or Furlings came up with that, since it feels kinda weird to nickname yourself as "Ancients".
@8kokorika8
@8kokorika8 Жыл бұрын
Major Winchester seems even more arrogant than he was in Korea.
@hellterminator
@hellterminator Жыл бұрын
Does he?
@8kokorika8
@8kokorika8 Жыл бұрын
@@hellterminator I think the leader of replicators seemed more cold and dismissing than winchester. And they are played by the same actor.
@hellterminator
@hellterminator Жыл бұрын
@@8kokorika8 I'm just saying Charles was pretty damn arrogant.
@8kokorika8
@8kokorika8 Жыл бұрын
@@hellterminator Well to me this one seems even more arrogant.
@conor3464
@conor3464 Жыл бұрын
Charles Emerson Winchester the Replicator...
@Dan250
@Dan250 2 ай бұрын
That's what happens when you leave only a few nanorobots and 10 000 years.
@Dumb-Comment
@Dumb-Comment Жыл бұрын
Jack: Hello we are organic we poop and eat
@kiwishamoo6494
@kiwishamoo6494 4 ай бұрын
And yet, no trees
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 4 ай бұрын
No need for oxygen...
@jovanblackman2608
@jovanblackman2608 29 күн бұрын
Actually there were trees. Check the later episodes involving Asuras
@Tropic101x
@Tropic101x 5 ай бұрын
At this point, never dawned on them the Replicator-Ancients were xenophobic and had no problem committing genocide. Base code gone wrong.
@Caseytify
@Caseytify 6 ай бұрын
Wow. I don't even remember this story line.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 5 ай бұрын
Isn't that odd?
@skyserf
@skyserf Жыл бұрын
1:30 That is as the first window on that entire walkway‽
@mammutMK2
@mammutMK2 Жыл бұрын
The interior for sure does not match the exterior 1:35 zoom out you can see ever third window is a window
@skyserf
@skyserf Жыл бұрын
@@mammutMK2 Exactly. They must have had their blinders on during that walk.
@iainww86
@iainww86 Жыл бұрын
Anyone think about how long that walkway is at 1m30…? It’s pretty long!
@user-kk6mx9wf8c
@user-kk6mx9wf8c 2 ай бұрын
A Lantian Curosant in effect
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Ай бұрын
"Coruscant"?
@detsalb5789
@detsalb5789 Жыл бұрын
honestly they should have traded the destruction of atlantis for a new alliance with the asurans
@douglasallar9176
@douglasallar9176 Жыл бұрын
True, Weirs group could have tried to negotiate for the evacuation of technology and personal, while the Asurans could have offered a replacement City-ship when they finished destroying Atlantis. While allowing Weirs group to move the Atlantis stargate failsafe to reach Earth to the replacement City-ship.
@detsalb5789
@detsalb5789 Жыл бұрын
@@douglasallar9176 weir also never made the point to mention to the asurans the old adage "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"
@douglasallar9176
@douglasallar9176 Жыл бұрын
@@detsalb5789 true!
@nihilityjoey
@nihilityjoey Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@icer1249
@icer1249 Жыл бұрын
only millions? thats pretty low considering the size of the city that we can see.
@NATIK001
@NATIK001 Жыл бұрын
Evasive answer, could mean anything, it is just meant to convey that there are many. You can count any number larger than 1 million in the millions, though commonly it is used to refer to anything between 1 million and 999 million. Truth be told we don't know if there are billions of Asurans. They might just like to have a lot of available space so they built out instead of repurposing space. If you have essentially unlimited resources and orders of magnitude more space than you need and distance is no matter, then you might just build a new area of city when you need different configurations of rooms rather than remodel or tear down old areas. Given that they like to emulate the Ancients it makes sense that they limited their numbers to only what they needed, the Ancients were not known to grow into large numbers either.
@andreslinares6429
@andreslinares6429 Жыл бұрын
He said billions
@Fractal227
@Fractal227 Жыл бұрын
1:50 he says millions
@BobJason1
@BobJason1 Жыл бұрын
It is pretty low considering there was an episode towards the beginning of the show in the first season that when describing the city of Atlantis, it would be like “searching every room of every building in Manhattan” And the Asurans had much more than just the city of Atlantis.
@Momzu.Dianaa
@Momzu.Dianaa 2 ай бұрын
What aquaman doing in atlantis ?
@greyofpta5305
@greyofpta5305 2 ай бұрын
SO many red flags.
@Fractal227
@Fractal227 Жыл бұрын
I loved stargate atlantis. But it really bothers me we never saw the Assgard again in this galaxy.
@Smugly_Watching_Society_Burn
@Smugly_Watching_Society_Burn Жыл бұрын
They did kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a5eUl6-esrzXn6s.html
@volkhen0
@volkhen0 Жыл бұрын
I remember some Asgard in robotics armour, was it the only one time we saw them? I rewatching Atlantis with my wife now so we will get to that at some point.
@jovanblackman2608
@jovanblackman2608 29 күн бұрын
​@@volkhen0 check out season 5
@BobJason1
@BobJason1 Жыл бұрын
One thing I never thought about until now. But they had programming during this point in time that made it impossible for them to harm the ancients(probably due to DNA), John had an unmanipulated genetic code - which would mean they shouldn’t have been able to harm him or disobey him correct? Obviously it’s a TV show and it wouldn’t have been much fun if John was able to command them from the gate, but hypothetically speaking. Because even though he’s a descendant, he still carries the gene regardless. Descendants, not different species.
@nihilityjoey
@nihilityjoey Жыл бұрын
The ata gene would be a part of the overall Ancient physiology, not a defining factor.
@ReptileLearning
@ReptileLearning 7 ай бұрын
One thing the show still didn't confirm is whether or not the ancients and humans have the same biology, or if some ancients intermingled with a few humans back in the day which would mean that some humans are descendants of the ancients.
@volkhen0
@volkhen0 Жыл бұрын
How does Asurans connect to Milky Way replicators?
@JDogtheAutisticGiant
@JDogtheAutisticGiant Жыл бұрын
In no way whatsoever. Which honestly always felt a bit silly. Would have been good to have a single origin, more believable.
@nihilityjoey
@nihilityjoey Жыл бұрын
They are made from the same base nanites. The Replicators were just programmed to form blocks. This why the same weapon was used to destroy both sets. And the fact that Reece wasn't created by the ancients. The asurans were. A scientist must have found research into the Nantes and created Reece. Reece created the Replicators and they spread, wiping out the inhabitants on the planet. The Replicators then spread throughout the local group, and the asgard came across them.
@Dumb-Comment
@Dumb-Comment 8 ай бұрын
@@JDogtheAutisticGiant one is based on blocks and one is nanites one is built by the ancients with their knowledge the other was built, created by an andriod, no humans were involved
@JDogtheAutisticGiant
@JDogtheAutisticGiant 8 ай бұрын
@@Dumb-Comment yes, i have seen the show
@anivicuno9473
@anivicuno9473 6 ай бұрын
​@@JDogtheAutisticGiant With a bit of legwork it could be connected. Pegasus replicators were an Ancient experiment. MW replicators were made by Reece, who may possibly have been another Ancient science project after they left Atlantis.
@studinthemaking
@studinthemaking 7 ай бұрын
Why does Dr Weir have a gun here?
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 7 ай бұрын
It was the team's first visit to that Stargate address.
@Fractal227
@Fractal227 Жыл бұрын
i dont recall, when and why after their arrival did the head probing commence?
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Жыл бұрын
Weir let on that she and her people inhabited a haven of Ancient technology.
@matthewtopping2061
@matthewtopping2061 Жыл бұрын
2:58 Hey it's the guy from that one TNG episode
@nickstephens4918
@nickstephens4918 2 ай бұрын
All that advance technology and they still use pc chairs with wheels 😅
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu Ай бұрын
Awesome technology.
@PeoplesGovernments
@PeoplesGovernments Ай бұрын
👣🦥
@erichtomanek4739
@erichtomanek4739 2 ай бұрын
Spoiler!!! . . . Psych!!! We be da replicators! Sorta ....
@TomasPrevendar
@TomasPrevendar Жыл бұрын
omfg this was the worst adaptation or second try on SG1 , am so SO glad i didn't watch it then and know about it, is SO SHAITE
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 9 ай бұрын
Easy to say when you haven't watched it. I found it very enjoyable. It's not really like SG1. In this show mistakes had big consequenses. In SG1 I can only remember the mistake they did with lasting consequenses was lying to fifth.
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