Glad they went with "yes"

To be fair, at least it's not the same spire rising over and over again, and the timing is due to the varying height of the spires.

Good choice

However, if you look closely you can occasionally see some of the tower sections popping into existence as they "clear" the ocean surface. Maybe they should have left out those.

@@TorIverWilhelmsen Possibly, though they seem to be pretty easy to miss for the average viewer (I'm still trying to spot them) and honestly even some of the best shows and movies that use CGI have little issues like that. One of the most popular ones being that dinosaur that disappears for one frame in Jurassic Park.

shame they didn't just think of using the city's solar panels to recharge the zpm🤣🤣

@@raven4k998as far as i was aware ZPMs are not rechargeable? They were consumable items. once burnt out, they are done, like a light bulb? correct me if i am mistaken

Couldn't agree more.

This!

Agreed! The soundtrack has a slightly different version of this piece called "The Rising". Among other things it's missing the beautiful choir parts present in the episode version, which is a bit unfortunate.

@@JariLaakso1 You need the choir!

@@GtheMVP Yep, don't know why they decided to publish an alternate version of a magnificent piece on CD. But then again this happens often with soundtracks that they don't match the aired/theater version of the score.

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i have bne3gun to believe that if a good show runs long enough it will get cancelled star gate Atlantis was one of those shows the original thundercats was another.

CGI programs have been constantly getting better. At this point, a fan/group of fans with suitable experience/processing power could probably render a 2020 version of this sequence themselves given enough time.

@@Jokie155 We should petition Corridor Digital to take a stab at it

@@Rocksteady72a and maybe a few other Stargate sequences that could use the love.

@@Tank50us the Battle of Antarctica for one

so sort of like what they did with star trek the original series?

Hahaha that would be amazing

rizon72 if that I would point at it and say what the hell is that or what the fuck is that.

@Ean Porter It is a what if scenario. Just imagine it would pop up somewhere on earth.

@Eliška Mostecká Depends how close to the surface it shows up. if it´s near a coast then people can see you with binoculars so theres no denying then.

Impossible but à country of plastic is already here

if this show does anything right its that everything the ancients built is awe inspiring

And when the city initiates the star drive or wormhole drive

Even in Stargate SG-1 ?

@@karimedouard5533 earth drone chair blowing up Anubis's fleet comes to mind

I liked seeing the civilisation that the time travelling Destiny crew' ppl built but were sadly mostly wiped out. I reckon if the show lived longer, we would've seen more of them :o how cool it is that humans had an even more advanced colony so many galaxies away thanks to Destiny.

Do it. I checked out all the SG1 and Atlantis DVDs from my library.

That just happened to me

Same here

The special effects in Atlantis were amazing, bordering on cinematic quality... in a weekly TV show. The Atlantis control room was also the largest indoor set ever. Which also meant that SGA was _astonishingly_ expensive to produce, and why (when the 2008 subprime mortgage meltdown went full Chernobyl), it was canned faster than a ZPM-powered hyperdrive. This is part of why the end of season 5 is what it is - they were trying to wrap seasons worth of story lines up in two episodes knowing there would be no S6.

@@erikkeever3504 Yeah, for tv standards at the time, it was top notch. This show and Farscape were a cut above most, only usurped by BSG.

yeah, only sg1 got a good send off the other two got screwed over big time

Well, SG:U screwed Atlantis by not giving them a movie or two, and when SG:U couldn't measure up to its predecessors, that was the end of the franchise. To be fair to SG:U, the writing did get better towards the end but the damage was already done. It seemed to be having an identity crisis at the start and by the time they sorted themselves out, the network pulled the plug.

@@hawkeye5955 SG:U was closer to a soap opera than stargate. It did get better towards the end, but as you say by then it was already too late.

universe was awful. from start to finish. sg-1 got to run on far too long. i love that. atlantis still had so much left! fucking heartbreaking.

Agree had a great five season run

asianfireflie but it deserved (like most good shows) more seasons

samramdebest it did. damn SGU

J4Seriously an miss all three shows

Practical effects are fantastic, and CGI can seriously increase how brilliant they can look and be. Going full CGI can be very hit or miss though. IMO, it depends on what you're showing with that CGI. Something like this is absolutely beautiful... and yes, it's a little dated by today's standards, but still very beautiful... but imagine if they tried to do all the Wraith in CGI instead of having actors in practical makeup and props. It would likely look horrendous. Typically trying to render something realistically moving (like a person) usually is. Stargate, in each of its series, managed to lovingly balance both styles and merge them really well. It's why the show stands the test of time and still looks wonderful even today, over 10 years after the franchise ended (I mean the end of SGU... I don't count that other awful series that was on Amazon or so)

@@BYERE Using CGI character models for the wraith _could_ work, but the amount of detail needed to make them convincing would have to be on par with Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War and End Game, which wouldn't be easy to maintain for a TV studio with deadlines and a much tighter budget, especially if there's going to be whole mobs of them. I noticed in some episodes of SG-1 and Atlantis they would occasionally swap out the practical Asgardian models with CGI but I think that was just because they couldn't find a way to make the practical model walk without it looking like a puppet. My overall opinion when it gets to character models is that the safest bet is to only use CGI models if the show is animated or if the photorealism of the model is absolutely 100% convincing. Also, Stargate Origins was awful (assuming that's the show you meant).

@@MythicSuns I thought the wraith looked great. Like much of the show, they can be hokey, but they do enough with them to make them a believable menacing force, especially that first encounter with Robert Patrick. I was shocked they did that.

Don’t think I haven’t thought of that, that’s why season one is always my favorite!

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Replying to self as I can't edit: the first three seasons of SGA pretty much *were* as good as prime SG1. I didn't like the direction they took in seasons 4-5 though, season 5 was pretty bad, Vegas excepted.

The Shield is Collapsing🤣🤣🤣

that was the dumbest episode ever!

@@KawaiiSoulB42 It was a great episode.

@@arhskr81 No It wasn't the ancient had that tech in the original lore. Q_Q

@@KawaiiSoulB42 No they didn't, Otherwise Atlantis would have risen in the original timeline. Again one of the best Atlantis eps.

@@arhskr81 "...keep in mind this is the race that built the Stargates. They did everything big." They wrote how and what Altantis tech had before making the esp. The Stardrive had the ability to make the City sink. I don't think they are that dumb...Like this esp to forget something foolish then that. It the most stupidest esp and you just gonna have to deal with it.

red17x it’s possible I theorize that we’re not the first evolution of this form like they sayin sg-1 I think we’re the second only a slave race made by the more advanced and somewhat evil race of pre humans

Im pretty sure someone is gonna build ocean cities in the future. Its another question of what people they will allow to live there, after all its probably gonna be billionaires who build and control those cities. If you wanna live in such a city in the future, just become rich enough and youll probably be able to make one and even be in charge of it.

With its sensor systems and other tech, you may find yourself in Alpha Centauri's Self-Aware Colony instead - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n92hgZaG15PbgGQ.html

@@meganoobbg3387 I’ve played Bioshock and I wouldn’t go live in an ocean city lol!

Even if Atlantis existed (and we're not the first iteration of human civilization on Earth) it would have decayed into nothing but a couple of stones and some metal rod in the ocean floor, covered by algae, seaweed and coral. And that if Atlantis ever existed, which doesn't seems likely for the evidence we gathered. Doesn't seems likely. We still have some gaps covering centuries and even millenias, gaps where an entire civilization may have rise and fallen to oblivion. I wouldn't count on it, real history seems pretty straightforward but still... At this point I'm not gonna totally reject anything. Trust me, archeology is full of surprises.

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These were later parts of the opening scene. :3

The gate makes noises when you start dialling and she's next to the gate...

They all seem to have communications ear-pieces and throat mics, that probably explains it.

The gate lights up and makes noises when you dial

I thought it could be Electromagnets in the shield circuit holding large metallic ballast plates to the bottom of the city

I thought it was stardrive what raised it. Like, a portion of the power needed for the push was saved aside for the failsafe.

@@maj.stevencaldwell3522 no. There’s an episode where they discover a 10,000 year old Elizabeth Weir from an alternate timeline in a stasis chamber. She was part of the team that went to Atlantis, but unlike in this timeline, there was no failsafe and the shield just failed drowning everyone. Her and Shepherd escaped in a Jumper with a Time Machine in the back and teleported themselves 10,000 years in the past when the Wraith were besieging Atlantis and the city was under water and about to be evacuated by the Ancients. They were shot down and she was rescued. Shepherd did not survive the crash. She met a scientist named Janus. She told him what had happened to her and he got the idea to create a fail safe so that when the shield is on the verge of failing, the locking clamp releases letting the city rise to the surface. She stayed behind when the ancients had evacuated to rotate the ZPMs every few thousand years.

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Mike! I think I won the fish contest this year!

It wasnt originally so people died, but a quick bit of time travel fixed it

Read_My_Feels991 I would like to think that is the case, except that I suspect the emitters couldn't make it an active layer just microns from the surface. Maybe it shut down completely just before surfacing? But, more than likely the effects department just overlooked it in favor of the admittedly cool look of the water coming off of it.

Read_My_Feels991 Argh. I forgot about the part where McKay said that some parts of the city was already flooded...so I guess it was probably collapsed down to just the central tower.

Revan2908 or it failed on the way back up to the surface so by the time they were near the top the water was actually up against the buildings

As nice as the "collapsed to form-fitting" idea is, the Atlantis shield is literally the _only_ lantean shield design explicitly incapable of it. It is able to do any variation on vaguely sphere-ish, up to and including a disc surrounding the gate, but form-fitting anything other than a borg sphere isn't something that's happening.

Read_My_Feels991 it was in... Actually, I can't remember where. I think I may have assumed. However, working by logic, it can be assumed as: The only form-fitting shielding used in the series is used by the Ancients, in the Auroras, Destiny, the personal shield, etc. In a city-ship especially, a form-fitting shield would be a boon, as(due to how gateverse hyperdrives work), there is actually enough room inside the raised Atlantis shielding for a small enough ship to hyperspace-jump inside the shields. However, the thing about gateverse shielding is that it is frequency-based. IIRC, the big deal about the Atlantis shield was that it was multi-layered, so it was able to have more frequencies covered at the same time. As stated above, it would be a good idea for a city-ship to have form-fitting shielding, and yet it didn't. (The dome-shaped shielding _may_ have been the trade-off for... the odd nature of Atlantis' shield, even if my recollection of that factoid of it's operation is incorrect.) Either way, however, there are a few more points that make it unlikely that, in this situation at least, the shields would have collapsed in to a form-fitting mode. A) Assuming that the form-fitting mode isn't the default form for the shields(as it is not shown anywhere else in the series, after the SGA team gains active control over the shielding), projecting a form-fitting cover over the city would likely take more energy than projecting a dome over the city(though this one is simply conjecture based on how dome-forcefields are theorized to work) B) Seeing how the dome was full of lighter-than-water air, a flat-surfaced dome full of air would rise to the surface considerably faster than a full-of-lots-of-places-to-catch-water-and-slow-them-down city full of notably less air, it would be more energy efficient for the shield to maintain the dome than to perform drastic reshaping of the field while keeping said field raised. C) Every time we have seen the Atlantis field raised, it has been accompanied by a constant, distinct shimmer in the air, especially noticable after activation or during/after holding back something(like, say, an ocean). The buildings of Atlantis in this are not covered in said shimmer.

City-ship

Nah considering it has been running non stop for several million years it must be running Linux

They were not deep. If you go back and watch when they arrive and they notice that they're under water, you can clearly see the surface and the sunlight shining down. So they were in a few hundred feet of water at most. A good swimmer can dive that deep, maybe even without scuba gear.

@@michaelheath2866 although this is somewhat inconsistent since it was also stated that the ocean is really deep where they are later. But I would assume that the inside was pressurised anyway.

@@victorselve8349 Yes, the inside of the city must be pressurised, otherwise taking the gate from Atlantis (while under water) to a surface world would have serious consequences to the teams.

Stargate travel is not instant, so the receiving stargate has plenty time to show an activation sequence after the sending stargate has finished dialing.

it's a tad more complex than that. An Einstein Rosen Bridge spans not only Space but also Time (as they are essentially the same structure). The concept of "now" is not synchronous over such a domain because there can be no external cause/effect external to the bridge. The sender and receiver have no other means to quantify when any particular event happened relative to the other so any perceived delay or indeed perceived preempting of an action is fundamentally meaningless.

is like phone. how your phone which number is calling you

If Stargate travel has that delay, why is radio communication via Stargate portal lag free?

That's actually a very good question lol. I faintly remember Carter saying the travel time was 3(and some fraction), so that's even less time for the receiving gate to activate. Although, it may not actually activate at the same time. Anyone who enters before the second Stargate activates is just stored in the buffer until it's ready. As for radio signals, I think this is instantaneous because the gate isn't actively converting and transporting the wave signals; the radio waves simply go through the wormhole and arrive nearly instantly. That, or the gate translates it into a subspace component, with the same effect.