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I gave up on this when they powered the gate with a car alternator.

I was with you up until the point where you said you were hoping for a full reboot. I just can't understand why anyone would want that. Half the appeal of this series has been watching humanity advance from 90s-era tech to a powerful spacefaring civilization. If we throw all that away and go back to square one, then what's been the point of the last 17 seasons?

"It's almost impressive how boring this actually is.". Yep.

0:00 - "Yep" Could've stopped the video right there 😁👍

Stargate Origins makes Stargate Infinity look like a masterpiece. At least "Inifity" can be explained by the fact it is a cartoon, aimed at children, and only loosely based on the IP. "Origins" is a student project that was somehow released to a wider audience. Other than those kids' parents working at MGM and wanting to promote their children, I can't think of any other reason to release it. Calling it a "Stargate revival" is beyond insane.

The best stargate programme will always be SG1. really really wish they continued SGU, so wanted to know what happened with eli.

I didn't know this existed. And now I'm glad for that

It' so annoying that you can't legally find Stargate anywhere else online other than with Statgate Command. Thanks MGM.

Hang on, Origins was released? I totally missed it!

Joe Flannigan (Shepherd in Atlantis) loved Stargate so much he spent a lot of time and money trying to get a new series made. But the people behind the website and eventually the awful Origins held onto the rights and wouldn't let him do his project.

Connor Trinneer was the only one with stargate History, playing one of the best villians.

When I was watching this abomination in its ten minute chunks I find myself thinking it can’t be that bad can it? Then after the torture the first sentence out of my mouth was “ I’ve seen fanfiction better than this.”

It's like a broke college student tried to make a Indiana Jones fan movie in their parking garage. I'm not even going to mention how hard it breaks continuity.

The other review I had seen mentioned the memory wipe at the end (making the entire show irrelevant) but they neglected the part about the memory implant which actually does sort of ruin Kathrine's character. The truly sad thing is if you wanted to do a short series on Stargate that had no impact on the main series but took the premise back to a time before the humans had a ton of technology that can rival the G'ouald (sp?) just have it based on a group of humans from another planet! Criminy, there were tons of worlds they ran into that had stargates and people on them. How cool would it have been to have a short series about a team from a planet doing some adventuring only to encounter the G'ouald and end the show with their civilization under attack? Then show the ruins decay over time to eventually have the stargate come to life and an SG team step out to see the ruins of this civilization long gone.

*YEP!* (Cue end screen with Mastadge Drag from the end credits of the original Stargate film)

I'd like to see a continuation of Universe. They could even put in a new cast by saying part of the crew died in stasis and the rest is comatose and can't yet be brought back.

There is one good part about Origins, and that is Aset. The governor of Abydos at that time. She was probably one of the only two genuinely compassionate Goa'uld we've seen in the franchise. The other good Goa'uld was the one in Kianna Cyr. Jonas Quinn's girlfriend.

3:30 you take that back Baal was one of the best villains in SG-1 fight me!

Cheap might be the wrong complaint to throw at Star Trek Discovery. It's more like the money is in the wrong place. The original series had paper machete and hope to make their sets but the writing was solid and often deep. The writing just isnt there for discovery. It honestly reminds me of the Transformers film series. Nothing makes sense, everyone is yelling, the camera cant hold still and, as impressive as the cgi might have been at the time, it's hard to deny that its so different from its source material that it feels like a lesser original idea hiding behind the better ideas of what came before just to get people to watch it. Just my opinion though.

I actually like Ba'el. And I mean I actually wanted to like him. He has such charm that the actor pulls off with such flare that he puts you off guard. You don't know how to take this guy. He cordial, even downright respectful to the main heroes that you TRY to forget that he spent an episode torturing O'Neil to death, rezzing him, and repeating until Daniel bent the ascended playbook rules to get a rescue party together. I actually spent most of the last two seasons wanting this bastard to do a face-turn just because I liked him being around. After spending seasons dealing with Gua'ld threats that tried to one up the last guy in being more evil and more threatening; Ba'el was a breath of fresh air, a villain who came at them sideways partially because he had seen everyone else go head to head with Earth and come up short. He was at that moment the perfect foil to the SGC, a charming schemer who every once in awhile has enough of a compass to help save the day. And even in the close out movie Ba'el says it himself in the moment of his victory that he likes Earth and the humans; that much of what he said was at some level honest. He even dies trying to save us.

I hadn't even heard of this new spinoff. Sounds like I didn't miss much... except wait, is that Trip Tucker with a Scotty moustache!? I love Bobbie Draper, I also find the Investigator absolutely fascinating from what little we've seen.

I would be happy if they never activate the Stargate in Origin. Just a pulpy adventure of stopping Nazi from figuring how it work or exploiting it for the war. Maybe have the bad guys figured out how to activate the gate at the climax, the good guys won and pushed the main baddy into the gate as it shut down. Set this climax in the middle of an air raid or a bigger battle. At the end, the good guys decides to move the DHD away from the gate so the gate would be useless even if it is capture (easier to move the DHD than the gate). Air raid destroy the warehouse/hanger housing the gate, the good guys had to abandon the truck to save their own lives. The DHD got captured by German grunts who doesn't know what it is, the gate is left buried until after the Allies recapture the area, leaving the gate useless until the 90s.

I watched the full length version of this on Amazon just to form an independent opinion before watching this review, which was validated in the first two seconds if this video. They should have called it Stargate Echoes because of how much it borrowed from the original movie and how an echo dissipates the further you travel from the source.

Answered in the first second Love it

Wasted potential. Simple as that.

At best, Origins is bonus content for the Stargate streaming service. It’s a real shame. I think most of the people working on it tried their best given the circumstances. The directress seems like a competent and eager person, the cast was honestly great, only they didn’t get anything to work with. Had this been 10 Episode series with 40-50 mimte Episodes, a decent budget and maybe a canon bending plot devices, this could have been great. Imagine, someone changing the timeline, so the Stargate project becoming active in the 1930s, and exploring the ramifications it could have, while giving us week-to-week Indiana Jones-esque adventures and setting up the premise that Catherine has to correct the timeline - that could have been a great show (even though time travel plots can be headache-inducing). Sadly, the cast and crew were never given a proper chance.

I never watched this, and I can't say you make it sound very appealing. Which is a damn shame, because I absolutely love the Stargate universe. I have a lot of "eh" feelings for the movie, but when it comes to SG-1, it's a show I will rate over Star Trek: The Next Generation, which is a big statement coming from me. I'm really hoping Stargate gets some love eventually, much like Star Trek is right now, because knowing how it abruptly ends (I've never seen it, but heard about the cliffhanger ending of SG:U) just breaks my heart to the point where I've been reluctant to finish watching the shows. If Stargate finally gets a worthy show, a cushy budget, loveable cast, and awesome story, my excitement for it will go through the roof.

I'd forgotten about this show, which I guess was a good thing.

So this is...Out? And done? Like, my total experience of it was that some people conencted to it spammed it on a Facebook SG-group. And even there, among SG-starved fans the reaction was "Oh? Eh". Not a good first sign. (ALso, yay for another Bobbie fan!)

I found it. I found your review of firefly! And you didn't disappoint. You have been doing great videos for so many years! Incredible! 👍👍👍👍👍

I saw a comment on another video asking if you were planning on covering Caprica. I'd just like to say I am fully in if you do that. Caprica was great.

I found Origins on Amazon Prime a couple days ago and started watching. Turned it off after it became painfully apparent that it was unwatchable.

I could see that “yep” coming a 1000miles away.

I was aware of Atlantis, Universe and Infinity, but never heard of this one. Apparently I didn't miss much.

Ways to fix the series' story without adding (much) more to the budget: 1. Make it clear that it's a prequel from the start. Don't throw in the retcon at the last minute and expect the fans to be happy about it. Establish that the reason Bruke knew about the Stargate is because the Nazis found the Alpha Gate's DHD in Germany (as established in the SG-1 episode "Watergate", the DHD that was subsequently seized by the Soviet Union during WWII and used with the Alpha Gate when they found it at the bottom of the ocean after "Small Victories"), along with a small list of gate addresses chiseled in stone (by the Tok'ra). 2. Have the gate destination not be Abydos but a remote Tok'ra base. The tablet was the Tok'ra's version of the monolith from 2001, a way to guide mankind when it becomes technologically advanced enough to figure out what the Stargate is and how to activate it. 3. Aset in this case is the leader of the remote Tok'ra base (which means they can re-use the crystal tunnel sets from the show) and the one who wrote the tablet. She's disappointed that the Tau'ri that came through aren't as advanced as she hoped but welcomes them anyway. 4. Aset not being a villain means that Bruke is now our main antagonist. He wants to seize the advanced technology of the Tok'ra for the Reich and he tricks Aset into thinking he's on the level by claiming that "Germany wants to unify our divided world under a single banner so that we can expand into the stars and we need help." She refuses, as the Tau'ri are nowhere near culturally advanced enough to be of help yet and plans to modify their memories so that they think the Stargate never worked before sending them back. Bruke's squad catches her and the rest of the Tok'ra off guard with their projectile weapons and a firefight ensues during which Bruke accidentally broadcasts the Tok'ra base's position to the Goa'uld. 5. Aset and the Langfords battle their way to the Stargate as the Goa'uld attack. She dials the Stargate and sends the Langfords through before being gunned down by Jaffa belonging to an unidentified system lord as their forehead symbols don't match any of the known Goa'uld. 6. After returning to Earth it is revealed that Aset injected them with the memory-altering compound (the Reol chemical from "The Fifth Man" which as "The Summit" established the Tok'ra knew about) covertly. They forget that the Stargate worked but are convinced that making it work is possible, retaining a subconscious memory of the events and setting the stage for the original film and SG-1. I think this is realistically the best prequel possible that features a young Catherine Langford given the in-universe history of the franchise.

I doubt 15 volts could produce the light that the event horizon produces let alone produce enough energy to send people across the galaxy.

(i heard) the Writer of the original movie didn't like the series thus it was ignored in the origin webisodes it was supposed to be a new show even though they needed Daniel Jackson to figure out the gate, even though they were using it 52 (or so) years prior. i find it interesting that they retconned SG1 into it

“ EVEN Ba’al was better... “ How dare you insult him with even DARING to compare him to... That... That abomination of a villain...

They couldn't even get the puddle right!

I saw the thumbnail that asked if it sucked and hit play. The moment you said YEP Had me laughing out loud for a good 3 minutes. I still have not finished this terrible excuse for a movie and your review hits it square on the head.

I....was actually scared by that cold open. I wasn't fully paying attention. I got jumpscared by the word yeah

The one thing _Origins_ did right was hearkening back to the original film. I never liked the various and sundry unnecessary retcons _SG-1_ made to the lore, so it was nice to see the stargate without lights and the extraterrestrials speaking ancient Egyptian again. Beyond that, it was crud.

Recently rewatched STO and... there is a good movie buried here. The cast is really likable and the idea of Catherine going through the Stargate to look for her father while trying to stop an alliance between the Goa'uld and Nazi Germany is actually really good (as a reboot or alternate timeline story at least). However, MGM gutted the project with the severely limited budget. The entire thing is clearly written around it and I'm honestly surprised how good some of the production design looked considering. And then there was some weird stuff in there like a certain romantic relationship at the end, that came absolutely out of nowhere. The moment when original Catherine Langford holds the locket at the very end was a nice touch though. Really a shame. A project which clearly had a lot of heart and effort put in by the team, but was gutted by the studio's budget. They never even had a chance.

the three stooges at the beginning and wokism all over killed me

That librarian was right after all... „Hope is the first step on thd road to disapointment.”

I was so annoyed by this because I thought of a similar idea long before ST:O was announced. But my idea was more like what Rowan described. I was only able to watch three episodes before I gave up. Which is a shame because the idea has a lot of potential, if only it was given a good budget and a creative team who knew how to tell a good story.

I didn't think it was horrible. But then again, I was just happy to see the franchise have some spark again.

The worst part for me was the CGI of the gate. Details of the ring were missing and it had a distinctive Pegasus-galaxy blue light effect.

Well said about star trek discovery... And iv not watched origins yet but because I'm a massive stargate fan... I will watch it. Maybe one day it will get a dvd release... I can hope.

So pretty much the first thing we get in almost a decade in terms of Stargate franchise and it blows. I hope this doesn't kill the franchise.

People say Michael Burnham or Rey are Mary Sues... but those characters have flaws, make mistakes and Burnham in particular is treated like shit for the better part of season 1. Catherine Langford as per STO actually is a Mary Sue: she is more competent than everyone else at everything and also way more competent than she reasonably should be, they guys are clearly in love with her for no real reason. Worse, she doesn’t really have an arc. Though I do admit with a better script and a bigger budget, everyone involved could have excelled. I really like the cast, the three leads are very likable, the crew clearly put some effort into it with what little they had. This should have been at least a decent-budgeted old fashioned 4-Hour Mini-Series.

To be fair, an ancient throne room would actually have been that cramped. The pyramids and other buildings in the movie and SG1 were waaaay to open; the roof would have collapsed in from the sheer weight of the materials. Only thru newer building techniques and materials of the late Middle Ages did we start to see the grand open spaces that we associate with royalty today. Yeah, obviously they designed the sets this way out of a lack of a budget. Just saying this, ironically, makes it more accurate than most productions. 🤪

While I'm nowhere near as comfortable with the idea of a reboot as you are it would've still been a million times better than what they actually made...

MGM has a product that people want. I have no idea what they were thinking when they greenlit this discount, mickey mouse series in this beloved franchise.

wait, this was a real official production? I legitimately thought this was a student film.

Well that was brutal. Since i seem to agree with Rowan, i won't waste my time. As always great video.

What a shame, imo the franchise would make a rly good rpg shooter game with different races to play with their own skill tree or sth like that tbh. Yet ik this is never gonna happen.

Just heard about this yesterday, as a stargate fan I wondered how I missed it. I got to episode 4 and turned of 4 minutes in. Absolutely and completely terrible. Cant watch any more, what the hell was that about 😕

Sadly, yeah, what you said. I remember enjoying a fair few moments of it but hell if I know what those moments were. Maybe it was self imposed excitement at new Stargate tv series cannon stuff??

I usually do not like these type of criticism youtube videos. You did such a good job, I gave it a thumbs up.

I liked it much better than Babylon 5 Lost Tales. I thought with actual sets, they pulled this off better than WB with B5. Though I can't dispute any of your complaints and I haven't made it past episode 7 or 8 yet. I feel the most glaring strike against it is the Jaffa. The actress was not a master of her fight craft. And the fights should have been shot/edited to avoid upskirting her bafoonishly over and over. But mostly I am sad that we didn't get the Stargate/Dark Matter crossover and Dark Matter season 4 (and 5).

Thank you.

I would've used miniatures and rear and front projection. Colour correct the colour to neutral on earth and bump up the warmth and saturation when they go through the stargate.

1:13 does the way that hes holding his gun bother anyone else or is it just me ?

I had no idea this 'series' even existed LOL

What did you think of that mat painting in the temple? 😂

Nazi's with a Stargate, now that would be a catastrophe of epic proportions. I can just Imagine them marching through London and Washington holding staff weapons as the Goa'uld theme plays.

The story could have been a 40 minute flashback on Stargate SG-1....and it could have been entertaining; instead, I realized I just wasted 50 minutes and turned off my TV. Didn't care how it ended.

Also, since when did Staffs have a fucking Khopesh on the other end???

my only problem was the story had a lot of plot holes and lost opportunities

I loved stargate, watched them all a few times, didnt even know origins was a thing, nver heard of it, looks like I wasnt missing much

Holiday Special.

Watching it now and it sucks a big one. Going to bed!

I remember hearing about this when they were making it and thinking even from the marketing, that this looked simply awful. Glad I didn't waste my time on it. Still watching through the original SG1/Atlantis episodes and the assorted movies.

I've never seen Origins. I don't think I will bother after seeing this. I actually forgot it was made! Was there not supposed to be a reboot for SG-1 in the works?

I wondered why they did this if they weren't going to put the money behind it. What was the point? But MGM have possibly overcooked the franchise now letting SG1 go on for 10 years (which saw a decline in the stories in the last couple of years in my opinion), then trying to recapture the magic with Atlantis which got 5 seasons and although a solid series felt at times like a simple SG1 rehash, I mean Colonel Shepherd was basically just Jack O'Neill. And of course Stargate Universe died a death after only 2 seasons which was probably a blessing as it was so morose and depressing to watch.

I recently watched through the entire Stargate franchise, again, but decided to pretend Origins didn't exist. The description I read of the show was like watching the recent Batwoman trailer.

Will try the lot and compare it to the expanse as the gate idea isn't original, but started at sg1 but keep getting bored, I'm trying to like it

I couldn't make it through it.. It didn't even fit in with the canon!

They brought back the original dhd props, and they even swapped out the positions of the glyphs...

Hey I’m a new fan and have a question regarding the early 2000s battlestar galactica series. I’ve heard a lot of people say the ending is one of the worst endings ever and I don’t recall you addressing the ending of the series. Without spoiling too much, can you explain what controversy is over the ending? After game of thrones I don’t want to waste my time on shows that end badly.

I just watched origins tonight it was so bad it was legit exhausting to watch.

I liked it.

Whelp, actually kinda glad I wasn't able to get a DVD for this now. Better off not having seen it.

So @Rowan J Coleman How would you reboot Stargate?

You know whats not disappointing? . . Caprica Caprica Caprica

Would love to hear your opinion and review of red dwarf

You did get this was a prequel to Star Gate Movie NOT the TV Series

Cmon netflix, get hold of this licence... ;)

As bad as it is I'm more worried about the implications of this show. Is MGM going to follow the Star Trek obsession with prequels ? If they do make an new show will they go down the Discovery route of badly made prequel that contradicts canon and nobody asked for? I don't think its unreasonable to say that the overwhelming majority of Stargate fans want a sequel show that respects canon. Please no more prequels !

omg, totaly forgot i watchefd the pilot :)

RE: STARGATE ORIGINS: CATHERINE In the Western film Genre, the Indian women were always portrayed as those who cooked, cleaned and were barefoot and pregnant. But I recently learned that isn't always true, especially for the Apache. Many of their women were hunters and warriors right along side the men. If that's feminism, it's been around for a while. Whooda thunk the Macho Apache Men would tolerate such things. People say lots of bad things about SG Universe. I don't understand why for the most part. I didn't appreciate the way it had lesbians in it. That crap isn't necessary except to please the gay crowd. But Overall SG Universe was dark and moody and -- riveting. Now,, I just watched a thing called STARGATE ORIGINS: CATHERINE It was 1 hour and 44 minutes long... I assume this is those Stargate Origins bits and pieces all together in a full length film. I must say, I really enjoyed it. I didn't have a problem with it. I didn't see any SJW or Feminism stuff. The people went through the gate to a Matriarchal Society, which in truth was similiar to ancient Egyptians. I've always wondered what happened on the other side of a StarGate when it opened, now I know, this film showed that. None of the other SG's ever showed that. it also shows the Origin of Naquadah and gave a better idea of what it is...SG ORIGINS didn't look Low Budget anymore than SG-1 sometime looked low Budget. Catherine was a bit strong willed, but still she was a female who got laid, by a male and not another female Thank God !!! I didn't like seeing the actor who played "Michael the Wraith" from SG Atlantis portraying the Professor, I wish they would have cast someone else for that role. And I really hated the bit of Fag exchange between the two guys -- Disgusting.So not necessary...But overall, I really liked it. In some ways more than the first Stargate movie with Kurt Russell. I don't understand why so many say bad things about it. DEAN DEVLIN is the producer of all the SG Franchises. He also produced The Librarians, Leverage and Angel. All of which I really enjoy and am pleased with.

I found a bucket.

Succinctly.... it sucks, I want my money back, on wait it was free. And I'm a rabid fan of sg1.

Please, no more reboots. If they pick things up ten years after Eli looked forlornly into the void and let's see where everyone is.

Yes

The whole point of this was to convince executives to go ahead and fund a full Star Gate series or series of movies but because of all the bitching and the fact no “fans” would pay for it they decided to pass

Ugh, this sounds terrible. Thanks for saving me from watching this. I've only recently dived into Stargate, but it's quickly become one of my most favorite things to watch.

I liked it , the only thing i missed were minor stuff like the glowing eyes and a reboot ..... no fucking way