Stark makes history: Electric bike takes shock first win against top pro racers in UK championship

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6 ай бұрын

Riding against a field of racers like Tommy Searle, Conrad Mewse, Harri Kullas and Elliott Banks-Browne on their 450s, the all-electric Stark Futures team of Justin Bogle, Jack Brunell and Eddie Jay Wade planned to show the rest watt e-power is all about.
In the first 2024 round of the British Arenacross championship, there was a major upset as Brunell took his first main event win - and the series red plate as championship leader - on his Stark Varg.
Our exclusive edit features team boss and former world champ Sebastien Tortelli and his riders as the all-red e-bikes leave the sold-out crowd stunned.

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@8180634 6 ай бұрын

Wow that was fast, going from "electric bikes are stupid, who would want one" to "hey that's cheating, you have to turn it down" lol. This is great, hopefully this leads to more tracks near cities so we can all ride more!

@The10thManRules 6 ай бұрын

2:34 The ebike was tuned to race requirements. Too much power, and the rear wheel just spins. It still comes down to rider skills and odds.

@mixalis6168 6 ай бұрын

Dream on, if you think this will stop tracks closing and free open trails left

@marks-0-0 6 ай бұрын

Its a bit like when 250 4 strokes were first allowed to race in the 125cc class, they had more useable power than the 2 strokes so had an advantage. So suck it up ICE bikes its your turn to be on the back foot.

@Chrissy-H 6 ай бұрын

@@The10thManRules the starks have traction control and an infinitely adjustable power delivery. So, it all helps make it easier to ride for sure.

@bennyb.1742 6 ай бұрын

@@mixalis6168 Yeah unfortunately in my area noise and pollution are used as excuses to close tracks for capitalistic mass production of cheap high density housing units. Units that get auctioned to foreigners for seven figure prices as a way for them to launder money.

@dominickdanna9906 6 ай бұрын

i could ride that in my yard and the police wont show up.

@SPCRacing1 6 ай бұрын

Sadly the ecofreaks will still find a way to hate them.

@g0stn0te 6 ай бұрын

@SPCRacing1 tracks in the ground 🙄 dirt isn't ment to be moved 🤪

@mikepalmer2219 5 ай бұрын

I can ride a gas bike and the police will not be called.

@zaarkeru3391 3 ай бұрын

I mean, in practice its probably as bad for the enviorment as a 450 thumper. Good thing its never meant to be green.

@2broke4surron 20 күн бұрын

Unless Karen is your close neighbor

@MrSwaggernaut83 6 ай бұрын

Hope to see more coverage on this team. Insane to think, out of the whole grid, the whole sport, every other bike works exactly the same, while the varg is an entirely different creation. Super exciting

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

its the no noise meaning we can ride in so many more places thats huge for the public

@MX109MX 6 ай бұрын

I can’t be the only one that would love to see a throwback race where Sebastian Tortelli on the Stark, races against Jeremy, McGrath, Mike Brown, and any of the other guys from back that era.

@mitikumitiku4442 6 ай бұрын

Wow! Congratulations that you were allowed to attend AND to win! Actually it is impossible in most series and countries. No AMA, no ExtremEnduro....... I'm sure you Stark will go their way. All the best! From a 60HP Varg rider from Germany

@marks-0-0 6 ай бұрын

Whats the reason Stark cant compete in certain championships?

@paulawestcott7228 6 ай бұрын

CONGRATULATIONS ALL THE STARTK VARG Riders! What the Honda Elsinores did to the MX sport back in the early 70's. Stark Varg will do the e MX revolution to the sport this time in the new millenium! Moving forward. Love those E bikes. I am former racer from the 70's.

@mharris867 6 ай бұрын

Seems like a good excuse to bring back the works class. Validation of hp output after a race to confirm its within range is stupid. Take away the production limit and budget limits and run what you have, 2t 4t electric hydrogen diesel anything goes

@8180634 6 ай бұрын

Bring back the open class.

@Brandon-to9vp 6 ай бұрын

Hp and tq curve wins everytime on electric

@gasi9613 6 ай бұрын

Long Life two strokes!!!!! FMF Pro-circuit shorty R-304!!!!! 🍻 🍺

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

yep i love 2 strokes but to ride in some places no hassle would be great . it will fit in a certain niche.

@gasi9613 6 ай бұрын

@@williamshaneblyth yess of course 4 strokes are Fabulous Too!

@lawrencefleck1117 6 ай бұрын

And some VP

@evanjohn503 6 ай бұрын

what really pisses me off about countless videos like this IS THE MUSIC. I want to watch the racing, so why do too many people think that I will also want to listen to their taste in fucking music? ENOUGH

@josiahgill9610 3 ай бұрын

Probably because you can't here the stark over the gassies

@tannenbaum3807 17 күн бұрын

Calm down boomer.

@evanjohn503 12 күн бұрын

@@tannenbaum3807 Er....I'm 61

@misfit1-3 6 ай бұрын

this is like when the first 4 stroke won a race

@bobdrooples 6 ай бұрын

Yup...and people will go where the speed is eventually. Still sad.

@g0stn0te 6 ай бұрын

@bobdrooples how is transitioning to better technology sad? Yall sound like boomers

@bobdrooples 5 ай бұрын

@@g0stn0te I find it sad because it's the end of an era of good times. Noise, fumes and vibration. The screaming pitch when open wide. I feel the same way about two-stroke. It's not catastrophic life changing woe is me sad, it's just a bit sad, don't overblow it and go straight to panic attack, youngling. I won't need to take a pill like your lot. Electric is too sanitary for me that's all. If I were pro, I'd imagine the time very soon when I'd have go leccy, but I'm not so it doesn't bother me because I probably won't buy one. Can't argue with the speed though.

@HorsepowerHouse 5 ай бұрын

Maybe you should go back to a horse & carriage as well. And no mobile device, no cable TV, no streaming, no nothing. Enjoy. @bobdrooples

@tajjson 6 ай бұрын

In a few years we will be seeing the electric bikes as the new normal. Haters will always be haters I guess.

@JayDeerTay 6 ай бұрын

I am for the tech and a separate class for SX. Something about the sounds of SX and a full gate. Cant forget the fan experience.

@HorsepowerHouse 5 ай бұрын

It's just a matter of time before E bikes take over all racing.

@jamesmorrison6204 5 ай бұрын

@@HorsepowerHouse I'm hoping they won't and they likely won't

@HorsepowerHouse 5 ай бұрын

@@jamesmorrison6204 I guarantee it

@unrestrainedfamily9356 Ай бұрын

47 and l loving my ultrabee! My 12yo son now rides with me on my old surron. Life's good.

@Kawiboy 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic Edit 👏👏👊✌️😉

@chazzthaspazz4475 6 ай бұрын

damn man i miss watchin justin bogle in supercross ngl man shit good to see em again

@abpob6052 5 ай бұрын

I'm getting older at 58 and the appeal of an electric bike is great for me. I ride offroad and enduro and could probably ride at 40hp and get 2-3 hrs out of a charge at my small throttle openings. It's all about momentum and saving energy when you get older. I will give it another couple years to work out the biggest kinks and then likely hop on board.

@timhyatt9374 6 ай бұрын

Heck yeah great see you doing great Justin and I was wondering how you’re doing and where you went but happy to see you doing good and I wish you the best always bud #JustinBogle

@HarborEdwin 6 ай бұрын

Great Team! Go Bogle!!! #19

@NorthernBuffalo 3 ай бұрын

People can dislike the electric bikes for many reasons but anyone who’s been following them should absolutely know this isn’t a surprise

@AlwaysBroken 6 ай бұрын

I loved my Alta Redshift, the range was the only issue. The battery is about the same capacity as the Varg, but maybe it's a little more efficient.

@Andrew260RS 6 ай бұрын

My brain loves the idea but my ears don’t.

@sakkekvist2495 6 ай бұрын

You can install a loudspeaker and choose whatever sound...

@g0stn0te 6 ай бұрын

Oh nooooooo no brap brap! 😂 eletric sounds better anyways. Asmr even

@jamesmorrison6204 5 ай бұрын

@@g0stn0teit's just you man

@LeftThumbBreak 6 ай бұрын

You know you're better when they're handicapping you.

@g0stn0te 6 ай бұрын

And that's at the core of all eletric hate. Gasheads are terrified at the idea of losing.

@Slakass55 6 ай бұрын

As someone that raced 250 2 stroke bikes, it's incredible to see electric bikes come to maturity. I was never happy with the 450 4 bangers taking over, damn things weigh as much as a tank and their exhaust hurt my ears when following those godawful contraptions. Imagine a bike that's so silent you don't hear it coming up at you (danger aside, it just means better rider awareness). And as someone that often landed the holeshot, I can totally see why these would nail it with ease: not having to change gears and all that torque must be a true recipe for the holeshot. This is neat. Unfortunately the price of electric mx, sx bikes is a huge deterrent to many but it's so neat to see what the future may hold. Btw what happened to the no. 19 rider? Did he go down on his own, gotten taken out or something else? Wish he was interviewed after the Main so he could explain why he lost it, after such a great start.

@racesla 6 ай бұрын

Wow so much whining lol. I for one want to ride the best most fun bike out there. If that's a bike with a internal combustion motor great, if that's a electric bike, cool.

@macinleygillingham2278 6 ай бұрын

Agreed!! I honestly can’t wait for the day I take my 02 cr250 and my e-bike to the track. Imagine at 5pm when tracks usually close they flip on the lights and keep it open for e-bikes, everyone will want one then.

@racesla 6 ай бұрын

@@macinleygillingham2278 Absolutely, also the lack of noise not pissing people off and getting tracks and riding areas closed. I've been looking at e-trials bikes. It would be great to putt around in the woods behind my cabin and not get dirty looks from the neighbors. And no blown up bikes to fix.

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

its people scared there fav rider will loose. all racing is like that to some extend just look at F1 its more like a religious Zealot

@timhyatt9374 6 ай бұрын

It’s awesome getting to see the Electric bike in action and to see Justin Bogle on one and Tortelli a part of it is awesome #JustinBogle

@grabir01 6 ай бұрын

How long was the race? 30min?

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

its been in a lot of outdoor races it will do 30 minute races and still have 5% battery left . it is its weak spot but thats nailing it in racing conditions

@grabir01 6 ай бұрын

@@williamshaneblyth So MX only. How long to charge before the next race?

@mgk1397 6 ай бұрын

@@grabir01Based on some reviews I've seen, not that long. A couple hours I believe, and if there is a way to change batteries then you have almost no downtime. Batteries are expensive, but so is gas. Electricity is fairly cheap. In the long run E-bikes are likely to be much more affordable both running and maintenance wise. Another plus.

@artofplanets 6 ай бұрын

It might be more interesting to watch an EV race if the batteries had a weight limit. So there would be trade-offs and innovation pushing the envelope. You could begin the race with as much power as you want to spend but you’d have to conserve later to be able to finish the race. Track conditions would come in to play there too.

@yh-yd8ku 6 ай бұрын

It looks difficult to start, but once you get used to it, it's wholeshot every time. Also, restarting the engine in case of a fall may also work to your advantage, but is it fair to mix reciprocating engines and EVs?

@Marleysdad808 6 ай бұрын

Is it fair to mix 2-strokes and 4-strokes with twice the displacement? If its a dirt bike, race it.

@yh-yd8ku 6 ай бұрын

@@Marleysdad808 In terms of reciprocating engines, I think it is fair to have a mix of 2nd 125cc and 4th 250cc engines, as well as 250cc and 450cc engines in a race. (Without considering environmental issues for the moment). Off topic, but the top two times of the Nürburgring circuit cars are for hybrids and EVs, with a reciprocal engine in third place by 6 seconds.

@Marleysdad808 6 ай бұрын

@@yh-yd8ku Explain how its fair when they are nowhere near hp levels?

@yh-yd8ku 6 ай бұрын

@@Marleysdad808 Horsepower isn't that different. 2002 CR250 59.0ps(43.4kw)/8500rpm 2019 CRF450 59.71./10000RPM Ev, on the other hand, gives the same horsepower anytime, anywhere, regardless of RPM. It's like a RC CAR. Ideally, they will eventually be classified into different categories like F1 and Formula E.

@cr-fc5rb 6 ай бұрын

cant believe all a 4 stroke gayers crying. get over it. the 4 strokes ruined racing with the unfair advantage over 2 strokes.

@macinleygillingham2278 6 ай бұрын

The funniest part is only Honda, Suzuki, and kawi really stopped making 2 strokes, imo 2 stroke presence is stronger now than it has been in the last 10 yrs

@tonypalmer7779 6 ай бұрын

450Fcc racing 250cc 2 strokes was unfair advantage and ruined the sport for lot of us at least the stark varg is set to roughly same HP as most 4 strokes

@motoboy6666 6 ай бұрын

Sebastien tortelli, legend!

@lasskinn474 6 ай бұрын

how do they determine if it fits in the class? ride anything electric you bring ruleset would be just p2w

@ozzie7523 6 ай бұрын

The Stark Varg has a 60hp mode so they can race with the normal 450 class as long as they don't turn it up to 80hp

@walterbolzanella4665 6 ай бұрын

Chi vivrà vedrà 😂

@g0stn0te 6 ай бұрын

Welcome to all moto sports. It's all pay to win, dork

@victorbeazel2479 5 ай бұрын

They should use the same rule for allowing 2Ts to compete against 4Ts. Just dyno the bike and if it stayed under 60 hp, then let it race.

@douglasyoung3992 4 ай бұрын

Not a racer, but just rode a Varg and it's no surprise it is starting on it's collection of trophies.

@eveadams8028 5 ай бұрын

Because American muscle has a century of load is bad ass and powerful. The Stark is like bringing a stealth fighter to a cesna airplane race with mufflers. It is so quiet that it seems up on gas bikes, yet effortless riding, the stark rider can hear gas bike from a long distance coming up from behind, you do not have to look back. Power torque and speed. With dial a bike size on command. They will end up with only e- bike classes and having to make a track that truly expresses the Stark varg bike. They just set the bar to perfection with their first bike

@ZBss-zn6zt 4 ай бұрын

Yezir! Your exactly right.That's why I made the analogy "taking first w just an "infant"in my comment. Most everything bout the varg in prototype friekn educated guess mode......still checkered.Wow.

@eveadams8028 4 ай бұрын

@@ZBss-zn6zt I could see Stark varg rolling their eyes. And be like " Fu on educated guess!_. That is not a educated guess machine. The hula hoop might have been a educated guess, the slinky might have a educated guess! The Stark Varg was nothing close to a educated guess. They new very well what the competition was, they protected their design.

@jeanlavallee2887 6 ай бұрын

Bike looks nose heavy in the whoops.

@artofplanets 6 ай бұрын

I am glad that inventors and investors take risks to bring what seems to be a high quality machine to market. I have looked forward to the day when EV’s get involved in racing. But they should be in a separate class.

@TheJustinJ 5 ай бұрын

Nah. Time to make the 450 4 strokes pay for ruining the 250 class. Who came up with that arbitrary displacement rule?

@artofplanets 5 ай бұрын

At that time the two-strokes put out roughly double the horsepower as a 4-stroke of the same displacement. They were pushing 4-strokes because California didn’t like 2-strokes. Back in the day I actually read the fine print of the new regulation. Based on ridiculous calculations. They multiplied the number of 2-strokes owned in the state by the number of weekend days in a year, multiplied by 8 hours, to come up with 300 tons of pollution per year. So they began to regulate them progressively more.

@johnnycountee644 6 ай бұрын

I think EVs should have their own class in supercross instead of down time or fill in 65cc racing ect. How do you work on them in the pits. E-tec degree and $ ?

@g0stn0te 6 ай бұрын

Sounds like you don't like losing

@adriantompson 5 ай бұрын

i thiink they should have race days for evs only.

@antoniohbc7564 5 ай бұрын

o mesmo que aconteceu com as 2 tempos. começou a aparece umas 4tempos no meio 5 anos depois elas dominaram. acho que vai ser assim com as elétricas tmb

@josemelio5608 6 ай бұрын

Boggle. One of the best persons ever, and one of the best riders. Laurence, Sexton then Boggle. That's my point of view..

@user-ch7un9es3d 6 ай бұрын

I think the major question is..how Will it fit in a common rider..not a pro with a factory behind..if you need to fix something on the bike..can you do it or Will you need to always go to the local shop?

@jasonkhoury4328 6 ай бұрын

That's a good point - these days everything is built in a way to force us to rely on the manufacturer more and more after the sale.

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

what's to fix its no gearbox no oil change and all those complicated 4 stroke cams and valves don't exist the wheels and suspension are the same as other bikes One of its appeals is the lack of maintenance for Joe Average. its not designed to race but it was raced to show case it to the public.

@user-ch7un9es3d 6 ай бұрын

@@williamshaneblyth i think that's the problem..it's a showcase.. OffRoad bikes Crash..if in One Crash you damage something you shouldn't..where does it leads you??in My opinion that's what the factories are not telling US..i think eléctric can be good..but does not replace combustion..different solutions in eléctric stuff is needed

@mgk1397 6 ай бұрын

@@user-ch7un9es3dAs far as damage goes, the only thing that should be any different would be hitting the battery or motor. Both should be able to be protected quite well, and likely at varying levels depending on preference. And if you managed to sufficiently smash one of those, then yeah, you would have to replace it. But that's not that much different than a gas bike where you can still hit the motor and transmission. As long as parts are available and not outrageously priced, I see extremely lower operating and maintenance costs. There will always still be a place for 2&4 Strokes though!

@user-ch7un9es3d 6 ай бұрын

@@mgk1397 i've damaged clutch cover in My MX bike..and also the top of the engine..easy fix..if it was electric..new battery ir new bike?i'm not saying eléctric is bad..just not sure about how expensive it can get!!!

@MichaelWilliams-ei8cr 6 ай бұрын

I'm sure it's super fun to ride. Imagine it would take a min to get used to I feel I use the engine noise and knowing what gear I'm in to judge how I'm hitting jumps.

@wadewest6770 5 ай бұрын

This team is like the Michael Scott paper company of motocross.

@marcbrooks8409 6 ай бұрын

this is a really cool video. I love how Justin Bogle lost his voice, his whole life.

@janboven575 6 ай бұрын

have no cc must be different class

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

CC.. corn chips. next we will ban riders who are too strong or old or young or fast. Its not going to turn out like F1 over the last 20 years where 1 car dominates others.

@user-cv9my1jq2r 5 ай бұрын

I miss the 2 stroke sound smell and feel. Maybe I could pour some pre mix in a mask and put my ear buds in. Come on now. That’s funny.

@MikeRay1978 6 ай бұрын

And now the haters are figuring out what little niche the bike “can’t compete” in and that’s what they have left to talk trash about. And I hope Stark seeks and destroys them too. I’m so tired of hearing the haters. I have literally only one complaint and it’s that I can’t just go buy one tomorrow.

@lost_marblesadv 6 ай бұрын

I don’t understand the hatred towards EV bikes. This is the future of motocross . IMHO in 10 years, gas bikes will be just a small fraction of sales and privateers. Imagine a world where there is an abundance of riding areas. Places would stop getting shut down due to noise.

@Azmuddogs17 6 ай бұрын

Future of Mx 😂😂😂

@Hugo-py2ce 6 ай бұрын

100%

@edjohnson553 6 ай бұрын

I don't understand the increase in male-female sex change operations, but I'm sure they're closely correlated to an increase in EV bike sales.

@dualsportdadz 6 ай бұрын

@@edjohnson553's comment is why the hate. It's the conservative mindset of the average MX fan. Reactionaries hate change.

@Azmuddogs17 6 ай бұрын

@@edjohnson553 lmfao 😂😂

@stalliondave9338 6 ай бұрын

Would be interesting to see an ebike class, because let's face it, it is a totally different machine, and doesn't really fit with combustion engine bikes. It is an intriguing time for sure

@Wisegofuck 6 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree mate. Like formula e and f1. They don’t mix.

@Tazdeviloo7 6 ай бұрын

For now, I'd just mix it in the 450 and/or open class and see what happens. If they dominate then do an e-only class, but it's too new and not enough of them to have their own class just yet.

@g0stn0te 6 ай бұрын

You sound terrified of losing, gashead

@g0stn0te 6 ай бұрын

@Wisegofuck thats a terrible analogy and you sound exactly like people at the drag complaining that they got smoked by a stock tesla.

@user-vd1uz3dj8l 6 ай бұрын

Real hard to do baja 1000 or dakar, where chargers.

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

hey a long cable or solar panels or quick swap batteries lol

@mgk1397 6 ай бұрын

There would definitely be difficulties, but they have pitstops where they could swap batteries, and they definitely have generators at their camps. There is always a way. And you can't argue that electric doesn't outperform the gas bikes. They make equal or greater power, the power is constant rather than limited RPM range where majority of power is, and no gears to shift. The only serious downside is range, and that gap is slowly narrowing.

@yourstruly312 6 ай бұрын

❤ I beleave there is a Space four EV CIRCUT DIRT BIKES OTHER COMPANY'S HAVE OPTION

@randymeredith3048 6 ай бұрын

It's not a hate of ev bike just a disdain kinda like mx racers have for quad racers I guess

@macinleygillingham2278 6 ай бұрын

Honestly respect your opinion so much, but them e bikes are definitely gonna enjoy ripping past you silently on the up hills 😂

@randymeredith3048 6 ай бұрын

It will be like a clothes dryer going by lol 😆😅

@macinleygillingham2278 6 ай бұрын

@@randymeredith3048 hahaha facts! As long as everyone has fun on their bike idc what happens

@randymeredith3048 6 ай бұрын

Exactly brother! I have a two stroke a four stroke and each bike including ev bikes have a feel of freedom! Merica!!!

@russellhelms2835 6 ай бұрын

@@randymeredith3048THAT’S funny! I don’t care who ya are😂

@melbournechugging2999 5 ай бұрын

Can't wait till Honda enters the rest of the world with it's ebike

@michaelfranchek331 2 ай бұрын

GHEEEEEYYY

@drpacman9996 6 ай бұрын

So if you can race an e bike against 450’ what about a 500 2 stroke

@LukeDupin 6 ай бұрын

Enjoy the last few years while races are still fun to watch guys. Its coming to an end.

@user-ln9cz5hr3k 6 ай бұрын

Your front end is dropping through the whoops ,increase the rebound a few clicks and it'll keep the front tire in the fork longer in turn keeping the front end up until it hits the next bump. When the track gets bumpy the front will stick better on the choppy stuff too

@robwal3665 6 ай бұрын

Why should they limit HP?? If Honda's 2024 bike was making more HP than the rest, would they be told they had to limit it ?

@cvdavis 6 ай бұрын

I’m curious if ice bike manufacturers will do something to stop the ice bikes competing?

@Tazdeviloo7 6 ай бұрын

They already have at FIM

@Andrew260RS 6 ай бұрын

Banned a lot races.

@Iplumb4mymoney 6 ай бұрын

I’m not on the electric ban wagon at all. I don’t hate on them but they not for me. I find it funny how I hear about the electric grid can’t handle the demand in cold weather or the summer heat but yet tell everyone go out and buy electric vehicle. I’m just old school and set in my ways. I don’t care what others do.

@Tazdeviloo7 6 ай бұрын

Charging an electric dirtbike is like running an electric clothes dryer, it's really nothing. It's only 5% or so of an electric car

@teleyakco 5 ай бұрын

You are "hearing" from an ignorant source.

@Gmh6477 5 ай бұрын

Remember when 4 strokes started replacing 2 stroke…..same thing happening here.

@HawgWyldFishing 3 ай бұрын

This has to be the greatest FAFO moment in recent MTX history. Everyone talks so much shit about E bikes and the battery dying too quickly. Now one just smokes the 450s in an actual pro level event. 😂😂

@andrewauman40 6 ай бұрын

These bikes have no buissness racing a combustion motor. Thier aTotal diffrent thing. E Bikes need thier own series IMHO. I have no respect for a man who claims he beet a guy on a combustion motor with an e bike that has instant torque. Not bashing E bikes in anyway.

@chrisculley3756 5 ай бұрын

The crazy thing about these electric bikes is There's no lag In the throttle to the wheel. It's like when you were a kid. You had the electric cars on the race track. As soon as you squeeze the trigger, it's just gone. Doesn't have that little bit of fuel to combustion to the Wheel which is why that Tesla car so d*** quick off From zero to sixty.. The only thing that I would wonder about is the sound. Do you miss the sound of the engine Kind of letting you know What's your rate of speed is and Since I'm assuming there's really no gears does that help you or hinder you with getting into corners and such. Again I'm making an assumption on the gear thing but I would assume it just goes from throttle to tire. No gears to run through And do just answer that question for me. RLTW 3/75

@user-nr7fo4pf6l 23 күн бұрын

'what am absolute sausage'

@ZBss-zn6zt 4 ай бұрын

When you see track times all the way across the board like the under 10sec. Tesla plaid 1/4 mile.when a nuborn fresh off the press like the varg in one of their first competitions places 1st. In the main.if you keep an open mind and think bout it.The combustion engine is an old technology.thats it in a nutshell.

@Antonymous01 6 ай бұрын

I’m sure the E bikes are great fun to ride, but from a spectators view, a full field of E bikes would be bland to watch. The noise of ICE bikes adds so much to the viewer experience… anyone that’s seen the ‘zero’ class at the Isle of Mann I’m sure would attest to this.

@neilreid2298 6 ай бұрын

Interesting how the manufacturers of electric cars or bikes seem not understand that the sound track is an important part of a motorsports experience. Imagine a race with only electric machines- completely boring without an ICE sound track. I wouldn't pay to attend.

@macinleygillingham2278 6 ай бұрын

Yea but also the benefit of no sound on a bike means more tracks could throw up lights and stay open into the nights for e bikes. Sure it takes away from the experience, but no one said gas bikes are gone. This is literally a carbon copy of the 2stroke 4stroke debate. All will be well, it’s more money for the industry, more money for the sponsors, more money for the riders, and if you really think gas bikes will disappear with e bikes coming in explain why ktm, husky, gas gas, Yamaha, beta, sherco, etc all still make 2024 model 2 strokes. Let’s just settle down a lil

@ryanlongley5052 6 ай бұрын

@@macinleygillingham2278 the fun hating ponces will always find an excuse to stop us having a good time and enjoying ourselves no matter what fuel dirt bikes run on

@macinleygillingham2278 6 ай бұрын

@@ryanlongley5052 see you’ve got your head screwed on right. more bikes = more fun

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

the main racer said in an interview its a big problem as you cant hear the engine like a petrol bike that gives you feedback like is it wheel spinning or not i don't see it being in races but fun at home is its perfect place . make a great getaway bike

@dougiep2769 5 ай бұрын

Keep it. Bring back two strokes

@rockman4699 5 ай бұрын

Shock win? Hardly given the clear advantage Stark holds.

@user-ns2pb3xx4k 5 ай бұрын

Maybe we can finally get rid of that four stroke noise.

@Nimrodktm 6 ай бұрын

They’ll end up in a different category due to major technical differences. Similar to Folrmula E and Formula 1.. now let me ask you, how many fans does Formula E have as opposed to Formula 1? It’s gonna be the same thing. 50% of this sport for the fans is the sound, especially in arenas.

@essicc 5 ай бұрын

I’m indifferent. He doesn’t have a clutch and has so much torque. It’s such an advantage to just twist and ride. If it had gears…

@PerryKamieniecki-ti9tl 6 ай бұрын

Love it the Future is now.

@binlagin 6 ай бұрын

Love all the petrol tears

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

Fears

@robertleib7201 5 ай бұрын

Just like Tesla. The haters gonna hate. Rode one last Sunday. Ordered Monday.

@brettknibbs9351 6 ай бұрын

I mean its double the power and designed to be the best mix of all of the real bikes if they told the truth so why would it not win?

@deanwaring6100 6 ай бұрын

Don't matter. It will always be soulless.

@garethlatcham5993 3 ай бұрын

YAWWWWWWWN 😂😂😂😂😂

@donbrashsux 6 ай бұрын

Seb is best on a 2 stroke

@druphus3 5 ай бұрын

Shouldn’t be allowed to race against gas motors. They actually have an advantage! No clutch, no shifting and thinking about what gear you need to be in. Just twist the throttle and go

@yohvh 5 ай бұрын

If you don't got hate. you're not impressive or disruptive enough.

@artofplanets 6 ай бұрын

EV bikes need their own class. You cannot verify their power setting against an ICU.

@alexnelson9505 6 ай бұрын

you can by the voltage and current. They have full logs that they have to turn in after the race.

@jeffreykennedy5956 6 ай бұрын

This needs regulations. It will be the same shit when 250 2 strokes had to race 450's

@user-ln9cz5hr3k 6 ай бұрын

They should let you race 80hp for sure, a four stoke can have twice the displacement as a two stroke why not let the electric run uncorked

@brianblass7836 6 ай бұрын

uncorkem

@Brandon-to9vp 6 ай бұрын

Doesn't matter the tq and hp curve on electric is way better than those 450s

@caleguenther8947 6 ай бұрын

Pretty obvious you don't know anything about engine physics...

@James.._ 6 ай бұрын

The anti electric bike butthurt here is fkn hilarious! 🤣 Have a whinge ladies!

@1176hambone 6 ай бұрын

Out of class. Pure cheating.

@racesla 6 ай бұрын

lol whatever.

@Marleysdad808 6 ай бұрын

😥😥😥😥😥🤣🤣🤣🤣

@macinleygillingham2278 6 ай бұрын

They will be soon enough. They’re just promoting it in lower level competitions to hopefully get it off the ground. I for one am stoked to see more racers and more bikes on the gate.

@1176hambone 6 ай бұрын

Stark Varg is the Barbie Car of motocross@@Marleysdad808

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

Fear. go watch F1 if you want to get more fear. never watch any open class car racing either . 1200hp car racing 600hp cars

@jimbo4203 6 ай бұрын

I hope they come out with hydrogen powered bikes

@cvdavis 6 ай бұрын

EVs are the future and will allow us to actually ride as most areas are getting closed.

@Erick-di9gm 6 ай бұрын

Been to a race with EVs. Unbelievably boring! Thought there wouldn't be much difference, boy was I wrong.

@TonyK3130 6 ай бұрын

An EV motorcycle takes on ICE bikes and wins! Interestingly, the association limited their max HP, not torque. EVs are torque monsters, best suited for Moto-cross, trail riding and city transport.

@Crosswolf112 6 ай бұрын

E-bikes are very super boooooring. I want more braaaaaaappp and ra-ta-ta-ta-ta.

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

they should put speakers with a 2 stroke noise evidently in the noisy race you cant tell if your bogged down or wheel spinning

@Motoinc 6 ай бұрын

THIS SHOULD BE BANNED! Or its own class....but they know ONLY electric will be boring and noone will pay for that

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

we ban you lol

@Motoinc 6 ай бұрын

@@williamshaneblyth 😂😂

@Toyahsi2 6 ай бұрын

Other than the fact it looks like a brick, seems like it rides ok. Separate class for sure. It just shouldn't be allowed on the gate with 25 other bikes at full song.

@keithwaller4545 6 ай бұрын

Hopefully not like in USA when 250 four strokes came in and pushed out two strokes. Full factory prototype against 125 two strokes. Absolutely hate EVs sole less . Plus the lie being pushed as green and start with a massive co footprint before they turn a wheel.

@vmcmark7578 6 ай бұрын

R U a believer of climate change? It's a lie & and $$$$ shifting scheme, KINDA, SORTA no EXACTLY LIKE THE PLANDEMIC that saw the worlds largest money shift in history, digressing aside, THE WHOLE POINT IS ABOUT RECREATION & FUN! If you break down the word RECREATION it ends up like this: RE - CREATE, ie charging up ones personal creativity batteries so that you can go to work on Monday & make a great effort & product, PERIOD!

@8180634 6 ай бұрын

I don't think anyone is buying a stark to try to be green. But it might help open tracks near cities so we can all ride more. Every place I grew up riding is now houses and roads, it's over an hour trip to the nearest track, more than that to trails, and that nearest track was sold to become a housing development already, but it was saved by the real estate crash in 08'. It's just a matter of time before there are no places left to ride at all.

@vmcmark7578 6 ай бұрын

@@8180634 It wasn't the noise, it was the property & tax value of the land so it wouldn't have made any difference at all.

@fushki 6 ай бұрын

Stark has no gears making it fasting out of corners and at the start. If you made it race with a gearbox you would probably find it right in the pack and maybe even at the back. Its only real advantage is no gear linear power delivery.

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

actually theres a ton of difference rear brake go look that p, plus youll instantly stand it on its rear end pointing skyward of a jump its a completely different race style ive watched alot of videos i think its not so much about racing but getting out and riding quietly and no cops called . pure fun most people wont go past 40hp setting you hove to adjust engine braking these guys where very good riders not Joe average too. they killed 2 strokes i dont this will but for riding for fun and who wants to change oil and maintain the 4 stroke and gearbox.

@Dustin094life 6 ай бұрын

I will quit watching ama if they let them compete against gas motors i dont care if its a faster bike

@macinleygillingham2278 6 ай бұрын

Picture this, 250, 450, and e bikes all have their own class, three classes, more riders, more racing, more manufacturers, more sponsors, more money. Who is seriously going to be upset about that, and honestly if you still are you should probably see a therapist

@russellhelms2835 6 ай бұрын

@@macinleygillingham2278we’re gna need to pass the plate & take up a love offering😂

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

and we all stop and say we cant loose this guy watching we will ban it for you.. who do you think makes the rules.

@pauliewalnuts240 6 ай бұрын

So a good rider racing a bike with 50% more power won a race? Why doesnt Everyone realize that most countries produce over 90% of their electricity by burning fossil fuels? the electric these bikes charge batteries with is no greener then an ice bike using a tank of gas. Everyone needs to understand we CANT electrify every type of engine. We dont have the raw materials for every device that humans use to be electric. I believe in climate change, but 250cc or 450cc dirtbikes arnt responsible. Recreational vehicles produce such a small amount of total green house emissions.

@damonreliga3129 6 ай бұрын

Only problem with that bike is that it’s electric

@Chrissy-H 6 ай бұрын

60hp is too much for them to be allowed tbh. A factory 450 might make that at the peak point in the rev range, but much of the time they'll be putting out closer to 40bhp. And then you've got clutch and gears to select too which all costs lap time. To make it fair the starks need to be limited closer to 45-50hp. And thats before you even get into the max torque figures of electric vs gas.

@williamshaneblyth 6 ай бұрын

well it can output 80 its only racing to promote it dont freak out these thinks are not gonna suddenly be in every race if at all plus you do know what a world class racer was on it . if you or I was on it likely we would be 20th and Im a good rider

@Chrissy-H 6 ай бұрын

@@williamshaneblyth not freaking out, just saying that 60hp everywhere is not the same as a 450 engine. They can limit these things to any number, I just wonder how they decided 60 was fair.