Stark Varg. Things I don't like. A few issues!

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913 Outdoors

913 Outdoors

11 ай бұрын

The Stark Varg is an INCREDIBLE bike! But it definitely has a few design issues that hopefully get sorted out down the road. Watch this and please comment what you think!
#starkfuture #starkvarg #motocross #dirtbikes #enduro #supercross

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@blbills
@blbills 11 ай бұрын
Excellent content. Thank you for taking your time to put this together. Interested to see how Stark reacts to your feedback.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@RPRosen-ki2fk
@RPRosen-ki2fk 11 ай бұрын
I'm so EXCITED to see this bike finally getting into the hands of the public. Stark should thank you for the input. How they react to it will make or break their success. I thought everyone of your complaints was valid and if addressed will make this bike a winner. Looking forward to more of yours and others content on this bike and how it fares in competition.
@johndepperschmidt8984
@johndepperschmidt8984 11 ай бұрын
Good job. There are so few people that are willing/able to make KZfaq videos. Your feedback all seems very legit. Looking forward to more.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TelmoMonteiro
@TelmoMonteiro 8 ай бұрын
Videos like yours are super important to iron those details out! Thank you for making this!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that.
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro 11 ай бұрын
Theres definitely things that has to be fixed, I agree to most of the concerns that you have but my main problem seems to be software related. Sometimes the app just wont connect to the bike. Getting a new phone charger/bluetooth receiver sent out and hopefully that will fix the problem. Thing is though that it is mostly small things that can be fixed quite easily or that I can live with, the bike is awesome in every other aspect (I totally understand if range can be a concern but not for me) 1) Mudflap: Yeah that’s annoying, you either have to run a smaller sprocket or change to a longer chain. The should have kept a couple of extra links on the chain from the factory and that problem wouldn’t have happened. 2) Chain guide: Its really narrow, my Regina chain didnt fit either so im running a D.I.D 520ERVT. Its tight but doable. 3) Throttle tube: My main concern is that the throttle tube cant be bought separate from the whole throttle house. So a crash can be really expensive. 4) Tube: I’ve never trusted anything lightweight, running mousse. Heavy but gets the job done. 5) Side stand: I don’t have that problem when running 18”, didnt try with 19" wheels. Been parking it all over the place. 6) I have been running front and rear wheels from HQ TE300i -22 (in all of my videos) as well as a KTM EXC-F 250 -21 without problem, the spacers fit perfectly. I guess it depends on which kind of category of bike you take the wheels from? All of the bikes ive taken wheels from falls into the "enduro" category, are yours MX? 7: Manual: Yeah the manual is far from done, support is really good though even if its kind of annoying.
@21AirDrop
@21AirDrop 11 ай бұрын
Enforcer Enduro, you also make the most awesome videos and I so appreciate your content as well. This response was outstanding for my information that I’m going to be needing when I get my bike.
@williamdeweese2546
@williamdeweese2546 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the honesty here. I love the idea of the bike and want one, but this is the stuff I was waiting to hear before I get one
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Antmanmoto
@Antmanmoto 10 ай бұрын
1000th subscriber here…CONGRATS 🎉🥳 and blown away by this footage…incredible!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!! Much appreciated.
@maxmb99
@maxmb99 11 ай бұрын
Phenomenal content !! Thanks for taking the time. If you can make a follow up video once Stark responds to most of your concerns.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
On the tire touching situation, they suggested running a 47t rear or 13t front sprocket. On the tubes they said they are working to improve durability, on the sidestand they said they are reworking it. So hopefully they are just sorting these things out. The main bioe is incredible. Just a few oversights on parts that don't matter as much to work out. I would rather have my bike now than wait another year for these things to be sorted so glad they just released them.
@SendLudes.
@SendLudes. 11 ай бұрын
I am subscribing for exclusively Stark content haha Looking forward to your reviews and coverage
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!;
@davidinLA424
@davidinLA424 11 ай бұрын
And more importantly, thanks for the heads up on the issues, helpful for sure!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@haydenflinner
@haydenflinner 11 ай бұрын
The brake is fine for the modern way to run the levers. Renthal fatbars have a lot of control room if you want to change bend. Im taking the stand off my order, thanks!
@eriksforestryvision8751
@eriksforestryvision8751 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see my number on a dirt bike 913 FTW. Great video and information too, thanks.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Great number 😎
@andrewcarter215
@andrewcarter215 11 ай бұрын
Very well made video, can’t wait to start saving up for V2 of this bike!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! V1 is definitely worth buying! Bike is incredible. As with all bikes (except 97-00 Honda CRs they were the worst!) they always get better and better. Looking forward to future battery tech. No need for more power for sure. That's solved! These things are amazing. Suspension and chassis is amazing. Small improvement will definitely happen. Future smaller, lighter and longer lasting/faster charging batteries will happen and we will have sub-200# MX E-bikes. 😎
@andrewcarter215
@andrewcarter215 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors do you know the maintenance interval on the battery and motor? I’m assuming it’s pretty much never but that the battery will eventually need to be replaced
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@andrewcarter215 Nothing in the manual about how long the battery will last but a new one really expensive. Probably cheaper than all the tanks of race gas you would use in that time though. Time will tell. I've never really kept a bike more than a few years.
@andrewcarter215
@andrewcarter215 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors same, I go through so many. Looking like this will be the first new bike I buy!
@pete6152
@pete6152 11 ай бұрын
Good stuff with detail! It will be interesting on how quickly Stark reacts to these issues. Mine Varg is due in October. God bless you Beta testers!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I've been in contact with them reporting everything i see! They seem to be a very forward thinking company. Also, you are going to be blown away when you ride yours!! Its insane.
@pete6152
@pete6152 11 ай бұрын
Yes I have emailed them with numerous questions and the support team is pretty much up front and responsive.@@913outdoors
@ninja1970fin
@ninja1970fin 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Def something to be fixed
@Dav5049915
@Dav5049915 11 ай бұрын
That plug is an L14-30P and you need an L14-30R receptacle for your wall. There are many plugs that look close to the same, but that's what it says on your plug.
@Gremlinsbeabout
@Gremlinsbeabout 11 ай бұрын
this video is actually huge, youve covered everything.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@guyroy4857
@guyroy4857 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for a very professional review.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!!
@wetlifesports
@wetlifesports 11 ай бұрын
Good points. It should help them fine tune it. I love electric bikes. They literally do everything better. I wanted a Stark but decided to give up mx at my age, too risky now days for me. I though about it as a trail bike but decided too heavy for me. I'm riding an Electric Motion Escape and its the best bike I've ever seen for getting up through technical stuff, blows gas away. Also have the Beta 300 Xtrainer and its great but electric with no clutch makes you 10 times more confident and safe. When you want traction, control and grip, electric delivers it perfectly. Also just got the Ultra Bee and its pretty cool too, working on wheel sets atm. Have fun, bike looks amazing! I like to keep an open mind and when something works better thats all that matters. The Beta it nice but it stinks, is noisy, won't run right if it sits too long and had to chang the oil yesterday.. EME almost nothing, just charge it and ride quietly.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like a nice collection! The Stark should be a great trail machine for sure. I've only done MX on it so far. Need time for a trail day!
@admitjet
@admitjet 10 ай бұрын
Great review on the Stark Varg! It's definitely an impressive bike but I can see how the design issues you mentioned might be concerning for some users. For anyone looking for an alternative with fewer design quirks, you might want to consider the 2023 AdmitJet Armor. This e-bike is capable of reaching speeds up to 80 MPH and offers a range of 100 miles on a single charge, all for less than $4000. Just a suggestion for those exploring their options! 👍🚴‍♂
@just_one_opinion
@just_one_opinion 10 ай бұрын
nice try sares guy
@robvange
@robvange 11 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT ! I have one on order but the more I think about it..... I will probably cancel . I LOVE MY BETA 430RR S! This still seems like an expensive toy.... great review!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Definitely keep your order! This bike makes ALL gas bikes feel outdated. Its a game changer! You will be really glad you got it. Worst case, you can resell it in like 30 seconds if you don't like it.
@Lulu-st1og
@Lulu-st1og 11 ай бұрын
When you have the money. Stay in and sell it for more… the waiting is crazy so many guys will pay more…
@bluetrepidation
@bluetrepidation 11 ай бұрын
Not sure if you are in Ohio but I just went through title and certificate of origin for a Storm Bee. As a person you can get a title at the title office without a notary stamp for the 1st transfer. This rule just changed June this year so most title offices will not know how to handle this. You also need a sales recipient that shows sales tax paid or you'll owe tax when the title is generated. I opted to contact my dealership and let them mail the title to me since I didn't want to deal with paying sales tax twice by accident.
@kensthorne7060
@kensthorne7060 4 ай бұрын
I'm wanting a dualsport version, people are already talking about racing these motorcycles. I feel it's definitely the future, (quiet) (fast) (durable). I like riding wheelies as the neighbors don't complain anymore 😊
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 4 ай бұрын
Its a wheelie bike for sure! Seen a few guys convert to supermoto. Not really my thing but its been done.
@lonniedomnitz1720
@lonniedomnitz1720 11 ай бұрын
Useful info! To deal with the throttle, i would try changing the Brembo levers to 1-finger Midwest Mountain Engineering levers. They have a 2:1 compression ratio and are shorter which might help deal with limited mounting positions. For the kickstand.., untested idea: either 3D print a clip in “foot” to give an extra inch or weld on an aluminum tube to lengthen. For rubbing chain guide: get a thinner chain like the PRO TAPER PRO SERIES FORGED 520 MX SLIM ORING GOLD.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I like the Brembo levers. The throttle housing is the issue. Its full round! And very long as well. 360 rotation its all the same. No indent cor clearance. Stark say they are improving the kickstand. Hopefully they are going to replace these ones! For spacers, any machine shop can probably make them. I have yet to test the KTM Enduro rear wheels. I've only tested the MX rear 19" versions which are a bit different axle size.
@lonniedomnitz1720
@lonniedomnitz1720 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors that looks like a Hirschman throttle and it is full round body. liked the Brembo levers as well. But then i discovered the MME levers and they are much nicer for 1-finger stopping. It’s easier on the bones for older guys :)
@h20mxracer222
@h20mxracer222 11 ай бұрын
Those are actually some crucial concerns. That kickstand looks like a ridiculous design. Thanks for sharing. Good to see they're actually getting out to customers.
@jamesnelson6381
@jamesnelson6381 11 ай бұрын
take it off. it's a dirtbike
@bhutch7091
@bhutch7091 11 ай бұрын
All very very minor issues
@gord6695
@gord6695 10 ай бұрын
not with the price its fucking terrible. its fast rest is slapped together like cheap shit without thought lol@@bhutch7091
@TimothyApe
@TimothyApe 11 ай бұрын
Finally some really world, down to earth review. The issues seem managable though. This bike could be the turning point in a new direction with new possibilities in the sport. Backyard dirt track anyone? 😅
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes all small things they will likely fix quickly and make this bike perfect! This is definitely the one that will make a huge impact on the sport! Assuming they can keep up with production!
@blakbags2714
@blakbags2714 11 ай бұрын
Awesome everyman info , Many thnx
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jasonmillner6416
@jasonmillner6416 10 ай бұрын
Very nice review. Im confused how you have so much knowledge with dirt bikes and have time to make a nice living. Im Jelly
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 10 ай бұрын
I've been riding and working on dirt bikes for 35 years but I own a few watch companies to make a living. Dirt bikes are just for fun!
@smdub
@smdub 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Good to see some up close detail before mine comes in. Looks like the phone mount is part of the bar caps :( I can't run my typical BRP bar cap handguard mounts for Cycra probend bar handguards. What brand phone is it? Wondering if I could get a different mount and just relocate it.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah on the bars... Good luck. Going to be limited on choices for sure. Make sure at least 195-200mm space for controls.
@tbank86q
@tbank86q 11 ай бұрын
I am dying to hear what the real world battery life is for "trail riding". I believe they claimed it's something like 6 hours.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
They said up to 6 hours. Probably a casual ride at like 15hp setting would do that. Realistically if you set it to KTM 300 power levels which I'd say is equal to around the 48-50HP setting, you could probably get between 2-3 hours depending on the trail, how deep/sticky, amount of climbing, etc. We stop a lot in the trails so that factors in as well. No idling, etc.
@th3welfarewarrior
@th3welfarewarrior 11 ай бұрын
Riding other electric bikes you should expect 150-250watt hours per mile on the hard enduro type riding I usually do. Battery is rated to hold 6kwh, so expect 24 miles.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@th3welfarewarrior Could be more or less. Too many factors to consider. Terrain, temperature, settings, etc.
@gilesgreenaway5655
@gilesgreenaway5655 11 ай бұрын
​@@913outdoors6 hours you would need to average less than 1.34hp, a bicycle would be quicker.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@gilesgreenaway5655 Maybe they mean a downhill trail 🤣. Really I have no idea how they got to 6 hours. On the 10hp setting it will barely even move. But a lot of trail riding is downhill where you can catch some regen i guess. Write to Stark and ask them how to achieve 6 hours run time! With my average trail riding terrain and speed I think I could get 3 hours no problem. Probably not much more than that.
@camomarv
@camomarv 11 ай бұрын
Cool very interesting feedback what I haven’t heard yet, thanks for that 😃👍🏼 I‘m a fan of both electric and gas 🤠 Does anyone know if they‘re planning to bring out a dualsport/ enduro version with license plate? That would be sick 😁
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Dual sport with a huge battery would be cool. Just go for full XR650 weight and give it huge range!
@camomarv
@camomarv 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors I like that idea 😁👍🏼
@ndjdjdjdjdjnxnxn4747
@ndjdjdjdjdjnxnxn4747 11 ай бұрын
Great detailed info. It's annoying that there's so many quirks. The stand is subpar and rear wheel should not be close to touching anything. BTW, some advice I didn't think id be giving: Never use tubes. Your ride quality will always be better tubeless.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I run tubeless on MTBs. I've tried Tubliss on dirtbikes and never had so many flat tires. Yet i'll run MTB tubes on my dirtbikes and never get a flat. But tubes are really heavy. I was excited about the Stark tubes since they are basically weightless. Still running the rear. No flat yet! The front lasted 30 minutes. Lol.
@farbrornilsson9709
@farbrornilsson9709 7 ай бұрын
Note for European viewers. You wont have that outlet charging issue at 6:50. Here in Europe we all use the same outlet with the two rounded pins so you're good, the US uses their weird outlets hehe
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 7 ай бұрын
That's good news!
@mrhqyangtechnic_q_emx8180
@mrhqyangtechnic_q_emx8180 11 ай бұрын
May be Flip the Throttle wire downward could help, Surron Stock Throttle Body and a Flat Section to give way to the Brake Lever, not sure if Stark have similar measure to help
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Throttle on these is full round at the end! Maybe someone will make an aftermarket electronic throttle with an indent for clearance.
@Surfratglass
@Surfratglass 11 ай бұрын
Good points
@Santiago_jacrispy
@Santiago_jacrispy 11 ай бұрын
Is the rear brake foot lever being on the left a option from the factory or is that just how it comes? That would be gnarly to get used to 😯
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
They offer a left side brake. Its on the bars. Clutch lever position.
@Marleysdad808
@Marleysdad808 11 ай бұрын
Interesting....you bring up some points nobody else has. Some bigger than others... I find the kickstand the biggest one, did they not use it in testing? Jeez.... I just paid for mine yesterday too, maybe I should ask them to delete that. The tax I didn't expect too, must be state tax as mine was lower than yours. As for the throttle, you could shave of the end to match your grip length & either run bar end caps or wrap around hand guards. then you can move your front brake lever. Bummer on the tube, I was looking forward to running them on my track set up. I already have 2 18" wheels for trails from my GG, we talked about this on FB. Glad to hear the suspension is nice, my GG is unforgiving on the track hahaha!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
The throttle I don't want to mess with trimming becuase its not like a standard type throttle. Its all electronic and does not really come apart at all. So if you mess it up, you have to order a new one at $149 and who knows how long it will take for them to ship it. Also, I don't like wraparound giards or bar plugs. I feel the grip wrapped around the end has a lot lower chance for water and mud to get into the housing.
@ajpags
@ajpags 10 ай бұрын
Hey there - great review - noticed some of the same bits with our Starks, and even noticed the small "self clearancing" issue with the triple and frame that you can see on your frame from the steering stop. Brought that to Stark's attention as well. I'm trying to figure out the default pairing PIN for bluetooth - do you know it by chance? Seems we lost connection and now we can't pair the phone to the bike at all.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 10 ай бұрын
Not sure on the pin. Hopefully Stark support can help fast!
@ajpags
@ajpags 10 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors Me too - unfortunately Barcelona is +6 hours! Thanks for the reply - we should definitely compare notes.
@ddbtube2138
@ddbtube2138 11 ай бұрын
I like this review situation
@joelatkinson2080
@joelatkinson2080 11 ай бұрын
Great video.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@LammensB
@LammensB 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the effort of sharing your thoughts with us. Did you have the chance to test the drag-strip numbers? how long 0-60 on full power?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 4 ай бұрын
Only ridden in the dirt on MX tracks and woods. Probably have not gone faster than 40ish with the short jumpy stuff we have here. Its crazy fast though. A lot stronger than a 450.
@sph185
@sph185 Ай бұрын
How does one get custom rear wheel spacers for the Varg so they can run a KTM rear wheel?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors Ай бұрын
You would have to have them machined.
@mxr248
@mxr248 11 ай бұрын
What were the engineers thinking when it came to chain adjustment? It’s been around for so many years so how do you mess that up? 🤷‍♂️
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
The adjuster itself is super cool. My guess is they shortened the swingarm length during development. Not sure.
@jp094283
@jp094283 11 ай бұрын
I thought, oh great another whiner, but all your points were legit. Great job speaking, keeping the flow, and not making a day of it. Hope Stark watches your vid. 👍🏼
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that.
@21AirDrop
@21AirDrop 11 ай бұрын
Question. Since I will only do Enduro on this bike, I love the wraparound bar protectors. I think you were alluding to you didn’t install those because you would have to drill into these electronic throttle tube? I’m hopeful I can still install them as a tip over 20 miles away from the truck could be a problem.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
You will definitely want to order an extra throttle befor you cut this one. The tube does not come out. Its $150 on Stark website. Its going to be difficult for wraparounds but with a wide bar and the right type should be possible.
@21AirDrop
@21AirDrop 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors Do you know if the throttle tube is closed at the end?
@21AirDrop
@21AirDrop 11 ай бұрын
…was thinking if so, I could slice off the end of the throttle tube to put the wedge fittings into the handlebar. I get your point though as there could be sensors or electronics that I slice.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@21AirDrop It SHOULD be fine but would suck to cut it and not be able to ride it while waiting for who knows how long for a replacement throttle.
@mxriderdakar
@mxriderdakar 11 ай бұрын
On there website it say’s DDP and that means that the taxes are already paid in Usa canada, so they were not supposed to extra charge. Old invoice bill were just showing the amount, but after many updates on there website, they have added a small * saying excluding taxes and other fees.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. In Ohio, we pay sales tax to the title office, then receive the title. I've got an MCO, and they say the tax is paid. I'll find out what the title office says when I try to get it titled.
@mxriderdakar
@mxriderdakar 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors by the way, very good review, you are the only one that gave the informations i was looking for. The only one left will be battery life on the track i ride lol Also i think they said if i am not wrong in a video wth all the advertising on how green the bike is that the bike will have an oil change every 100h, but in your video, you talked of 5h? Is it for the brake in or every 5h?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@mxriderdakar Thank you! I appreciate that. The oil change is for break in. 75w90 Gear oil at 5 hours. Next service at 40hours or 12 months.
@mxoudi
@mxoudi 11 ай бұрын
Dude thank you soo freaking much for this. I am removing the kickstand from my order. I am extremely disappointed in that. Thank you for all the honest criticisms of this bike. No one had said anything bad up until now. Best of wishes riding. I will get mine end of September. By the way did you have to cut some links to make the O ring chain fit? If it isn't too much trouble could you link me to the 47 tooth sprocket and chain you purchased for this bike?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Overall, still the best bike i've ever ridden. Just a few easy things they need to sort out. For the chain, i was NOT able to fit an o-ring chain. The stock chain is fine. You just need to get a masterlink if you want to swap sprockets. Its an RK MXU chain. The rear sprocket just search for 19+ KTM/GG/HQV sprockets. They all fit. I also have some 13T KTM front sprockets i'm going to try. Power is a little softer with the 47T rear. Not much but a little bit.
@RogerT-kt3zd
@RogerT-kt3zd 11 ай бұрын
i would cancel your pre-order my friend. this bike is an absolute disaster full of false promises. just a heads up
@mxoudi
@mxoudi 11 ай бұрын
@@RogerT-kt3zd If you can give me some evidence and examples then I will gladly take your advice. (I don't mean that in a rude way, but in a "please explain yourself so I can learn" way haha)
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@RogerT-kt3zd Not at all! A few funny things here and there. Most fixable. But 100000% worth it! The bike is a dream to ride.
@mxoudi
@mxoudi 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors that's what I'm thinking Haha, I've always hated the maintenance on gas bikes and I'm a pretty good rider but my one weakness is shifting gears and the fact that I always failed. Those problems will be in the past when I get this bike.
@21AirDrop
@21AirDrop 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate the video. I’m supposed to have mine in approximately three weeks and I’m down here in Albuquerque, New Mexico. I was also wondering about that additional $900 tax where are they getting this tax from and I’m and I’m probably going to get double taxed when I register it here in New Mexico. That would sure be frustrating if that’s the case.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
That's what i'm wondering about the tax when i go to title it. Hope not!
@didickcheeseburger
@didickcheeseburger 11 ай бұрын
im no expert but ive always understood that the tax is paid to the state where you get the vehicle titled when you get it titled. i think homeboy may have been lied to because if it was a tax then what state was the tax paid to? id dig into it with them because if its a tax theres a record. im not saying the $800 was paid for nothing but i think theyre just making up the tax thing as a blow off answer to his question because maybe they didnt know either. in any case id want to know exactly where that extra almost a thousand dollars is going
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@didickcheeseburger i'll find out this week when I go to the title office! They said bring in the MCO and they can look into it. Need to pay sales tax to title it. So crossing fingers.
@hayesmotorcycleandatv
@hayesmotorcycleandatv 5 ай бұрын
That throttle housing is upside down if you tweet it it will clear the brake lever no worries
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 5 ай бұрын
Its the same all the way around. There is no notch like a cable rhrottle.
@dangelothompson3649
@dangelothompson3649 25 күн бұрын
What stark needs to do is provide links for all the aftermarket companies
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 25 күн бұрын
@@dangelothompson3649 They want you to buy all parts from them directly. You can order any part on the bike, from the bike! Its right in the app. Pretty cool stuff.
@gedigan3346
@gedigan3346 11 ай бұрын
Do you have to get another sim card/ cell phone connection? I have emailed stark with concerns about riding areas that do not have cell service, with no response.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
You don't need cell service to ride. You can ride without the phone at all if you want.
@kandydavins
@kandydavins 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, not sure I will take delivery after seeing these issues. Not worth the price!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 10 ай бұрын
Definitely take delivery! The bike is incredible. All new bikes have some issues. The Varg you don't even need to buy springs or revalve suspension for weight and such. It has a few things to do and some limitations like all new bikes. Definitely hold your order and take delivery! Worst case you can flip it and make a few Gs.
@RyansResolve
@RyansResolve 11 ай бұрын
a "few" issues. but there's something wrong with basically every inch of it... I'm glad you're happy and the bike is treating you well, but I must say, this looks bad for them.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Aside from the kickstand, everything else has been solved.
@bobdillon1138
@bobdillon1138 4 ай бұрын
Yup... I think Engineers need to go through a (can you do maintenance on it without wanting to murder the designer) class at college.
@kevinchon.
@kevinchon. 4 ай бұрын
Stark Varg has a bunch of vides on KZfaq, idk if they recently added but they have a bunch of How To videos.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 4 ай бұрын
Yes! Those are awesome.
@kevinchon.
@kevinchon. 3 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors Hey did you run into throttle cut off issues? I was mid ride and my varg just shut off. Had to pull over on the side and turn the bike on again.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 3 ай бұрын
@@kevinchon. I have not had that happen on mine.
@sidluxurious7816
@sidluxurious7816 11 ай бұрын
Maybe rotate the throttle housing so the brake adjuster knob corresponds with the recessed portion near where the wire comes out ? How does it feel going around slow corners - do you notice the 260 lb weight ? I have one on schedule for delivery soon, but usage will be single track & the weight is an issue .. I think ? ...
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
The throttle does not have a narrow side. So rotating it is no use for brake clearance. The bike always feels crazy light. Almost like a mountain bike! The only time you feel the weight is lifting it on the stand. On the track it feels lighter than my 125s. And zero vibration! Feels great going slower too. Just a super easy to ride bike. I'm anxious to get a real trail ride in.
@sidluxurious7816
@sidluxurious7816 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors Do it ! & let us know how it handles stop/turn/go in tighter conditions.
@johndepperschmidt8984
@johndepperschmidt8984 11 ай бұрын
Can you cut the end of the throttle tube, as if you were installing wrap around guards?@@913outdoors
@mxriderdakar
@mxriderdakar 11 ай бұрын
By the way, how much psi were you riding your bike with when you had the issue with the power tubes?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
13.5. same as i always run for MX.
@mxriderdakar
@mxriderdakar 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors ok because i asked stark what do they recommend because i had ordered some tubes and was wondering what they recommend. I usually ride 12.5 rear and 13.5 front on my bike but they said 14.5 psi both. Maybe that will help to respect that. I'll try and see if that help with duration. I heard that 1 psi on a bike is like 10 psi in a car so it can be consider as a big difference.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@mxriderdakar also 1psi can be a difference between guage readings. I run 13.5 in everything. This was my 1st flat in 20+ years.
@critical
@critical 11 ай бұрын
so the only real remarks (except for the tube and stand) is about aftermarket stuff?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Also tire clearance which you need to change gearing to fix. Stark is apparently now shipping the 18" wheel with 13T front sprocket so this issue should be eliminated. Great bike!
@critical
@critical 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors Yeah but you didnt have that issue when you got it right? I thought it was after using a different sprocket? I havent got mine yet but im guessing that changing the gearing ratio isnt needed as much as with a normal bike right?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@critical I had the issue STOCK. I swapped sprockets to fix it. Didn't like the 47T rear. Went back tot he stock 48T rear and swapped the stock 14T front for a KTM 13T front. You can feel a little difference when changing gearing but not as much as on a gas bike. The 13T feels better and gives a little tire clearance it needs.
@critical
@critical 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors oh that’s crazy havent heard anyone with that issue. Alright i hope they improve on these things until i get mine 😅 i wont get it until june next year from what it said last time i checked 😞 happy to hear people love riding them at least :)
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@critical i'm sure by then all the little quirks will be sorted. The bike is amazing!
@michaelenglund
@michaelenglund 11 ай бұрын
Why didnt you get a longer chain?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I did! But it didn't fit through the chainguide. So just using a smaller sprocket for now. Also, a longer chain may not work out. Could be at the end of the adjustment. Have to test that still.
@damonforrest1570
@damonforrest1570 20 күн бұрын
As far as the kick stand goes you can put a small 2 by4 under it in the dirt.🤙✌️👍
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 20 күн бұрын
That does not help on the trail! Lol. I ended up putting spacers on the bracket and its better.
@damonforrest1570
@damonforrest1570 20 күн бұрын
@@913outdoors then that’s what trees are for on the trail.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 20 күн бұрын
@@damonforrest1570 Rather have a working side stand! Lol.
@damonforrest1570
@damonforrest1570 20 күн бұрын
@@913outdoors Oh of course but you just need to compromise until they come up with a better design. ✌️🤙👍
@douglasgrosch228
@douglasgrosch228 11 ай бұрын
cooling --need fan or water cooled battery ?? maybe tell them upgrade of heat issues ..low hp run hard ..
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Cooling does not seem to be an issue. Barely even warm after riding an hour.
@JasonMitchellfun
@JasonMitchellfun 11 ай бұрын
Have you had any issues with your vcu? Mine hasn’t worked in weeks. The replacement was lost in the mail and I wonder if I’m the only one with this issue.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I have had no issues on mine. What happened to yours? Did it die while riding? That really stinks.
@BULZZixAGP
@BULZZixAGP 11 ай бұрын
How long does the battery last at different power levels? There is no info on this at the moment….
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I've found 50hp to be the sweet spot for MX. Getting about 1% per minute. Higher setting may use more battery but likely you may not really use all the power so maybe not. Electric power hits a lot different than gas and 50hp setting is close to 450 power levels in reality since a 450 only peaks around 57-60hp but the part you ride in most of the time is in the 40-50hp zone. I'm sure 30hp setting would last a bit longer but you would be in the throttle a lot harder as well. I was getting about 10-15% more range set at 40hp but 50hp setting is easier to ride on MX. I think on trails i'll likely set to 35-40hp and should probably get about 3 hours out of it.
@BULZZixAGP
@BULZZixAGP 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors so you get about an hour and a half ish out of power level 3. So how long to charge?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@BULZZixAGP charging is adjustable. I am using 80% power and takes about an hour.
@daneg
@daneg 11 ай бұрын
kickstands on a MX bike? hehe What kind of riding do you do? (thinking about uptime and usage case). bummer about the handlebar issue. I kinda expected aftermarket stuff to be very hit and miss because the bike was built new from the ground up (as opposed to adapting existing frames, etc.). Pro Tapers are one of the first things I'd do with every new bike since...hell...the early '90s. That thing about the rear wheel adjustment is kinda funny (I agree with you; what's the point in half of the adjustment range if it cannot be used? could you even use it with an 18" rear wheel?). like you, I don't see the value in a chain that cannot be taken off easily. This was great. the machine needs honest practical criticism for the everyday stuff.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
You can run SOME protapers. Stock Husqvarna bend and SX race bend should work. Not sure any others will. The side stand is for woods riding! Not needed for MX.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
On the rear adjustment, i'm running the 18" rear. Might be less issue with the 19" and a lower profile tire.
@r3motoworx272
@r3motoworx272 9 ай бұрын
Rotate the throttle so that the wire is on the bottom and you will have clearance for the brake lever. Comes from factory with the wire on bottom.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 9 ай бұрын
I wish that would make a difference. Its the same all the way around. Not a cable throttle. I tried! Mine came how I have it as well. I did try moving it but there is no point where its any more clearance.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 11 ай бұрын
Are there any videos someone riding it in the woods or rocky enduro?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I've seen a few. I'm going to do one once I get to the trails as well.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors OK thank you. As I understand it, these do not have a clutch so I’m very curious how traction management will be in ze woods. 👍
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 incredibly easy to control traction! Throttle control is 10x smoother and easier than a gas bike.
@michaelreid9172
@michaelreid9172 11 ай бұрын
People get confused on the sales tax and registration. If you bought a television you would not get a title would you? It should state on the invoice though that it is tax so if you live in a state where you can title and register they don't try to.double dip on you.
@Pfeifer426
@Pfeifer426 11 ай бұрын
The marks for the chain adjustment are for smaller wheels…
@bigrussfpvhell0
@bigrussfpvhell0 6 ай бұрын
Do you use bar risers
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 6 ай бұрын
No. The wires would need to be extended to run risers. They are super short. I am running Renthal 839 bars and it feels good now. A little taller bend than stock.
@endurocox5467
@endurocox5467 11 ай бұрын
Def need a range test! Will ktm style “flag” hand guards work with the brembo levers?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Well.... Might fit the front brake lever but there is no clutch lever so I guess not. Range so far on my hardpack MX track set to 50hp i'm using about 1% per minute riding.
@endurocox5467
@endurocox5467 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors You have left hand rear brake? On my alta I did & the ktm flags would bolt right on. Mines supposed to ship in October. You do $20 per lap demos? 😂 I’m also in Ohio.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@endurocox5467 ahh no I have the foot brake!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@endurocox5467 What part of Ohio are you in?
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro 11 ай бұрын
No they wont fit, different kind of levers.
@pets4489
@pets4489 11 ай бұрын
Fwd adjustments are for supermoto setup
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Could be! Good call.
@LeftThumbBreak
@LeftThumbBreak 10 ай бұрын
I don't see how this is NOT going to dominate very soon.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 10 ай бұрын
Everyone that has ridden it was blown away.
@BERZERKERSV4
@BERZERKERSV4 9 ай бұрын
Btw a spare battery is nearly $8k…. For a measly 35 minutes at race pace…
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 9 ай бұрын
Not really something you can swap at the track anyways. Pro riders will get 35 minutes on a deep track. I get about 1.5 hours at vet pace 😎. You can charge between motos as well.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 9 ай бұрын
If you burn a full tank of gas on a 450 in one moto like the pros do, then you will get 35 minutes on a full charge. I usually burn a half tank of gas on my 350 in a day riding. So perfect for someone like me.
@BERZERKERSV4
@BERZERKERSV4 9 ай бұрын
You're missing the point... the cost and limited ride time of the Varg battery as well as the poor quality control and near total lack of customer support is an automatic deal breaker... should Stark be around in 2 years I'll give it another look . Considering the hassle of installing a spare battery trackside means your ride time is limited to @1 hour...meaning the $50.00 you spent on track admission adds to your financial head scratching ...But like all EVs, 2 or 4 wheeled, they are relegated to a secondary role and nearly void of any practical use as a primary vehicle.. except for bragging at the local pub.. but in real world terms, they are an answer to a non existent question.. and once the novelty wears off, the Varq, like ll other EVs, represent a very poor value for the money .
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 9 ай бұрын
@@BERZERKERSV4 No need to swap batteries at the track. These bikes are probably the highest quality bike you can buy right now. Its not going to replace your gas bike for long rides with need to recharge but its an amazing addition! Its better than you think. I have yet to need to recharge before i'm worn out. Lol. The bike's battery lasts longer than I do 😎
@BERZERKERSV4
@BERZERKERSV4 9 ай бұрын
Several years ago I attended a test ride for the Alta..great idea but poor execution...thus why Alta is on the ever increasing EV dead pile, Varq may have excellent quality in the manufacturing and procurement of parts... but the lack of attention to detail during the assembly process screams rank amatuer... maybe your Stark was the exception but as a potential buyer we all appreciate your blunt evaluation. BTW, I own a Tesla for several years now and through several Florida hurricanes.... never again.. All EV manufacturers should de emphasize BS numbers like "80 hp, 0-60 times or 1000 horsepower " as their primary marketing points, which, again in the real world are meaningless. Focus on the real world range, parts affordability, dealer support and network.. Any AMA 450 Pro will tell you that 80 HP is unusable...and that 60 is about the limit.. just like my KTM 300XC Good luck
@George35able
@George35able 5 ай бұрын
Great detailed review, thank you! How has the battery life in real world use gone? I really think i want one but battery anxiety makes me hesitate 😅
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 5 ай бұрын
Battery has been great. I'm done before the battery every time i've ridden it. If you go through more than a tank of gas on an MX bike then you may have to charge in between. I don't even bring a charger to the track and its good for my whole session.
@George35able
@George35able 4 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors This is really reassuring thanks! I rarely go through a whole tank at the track so this should be good 👍 Do you have a recommendation for a charger to take to the track and how well they do, preferably not gas powered? Or is your battery experience that good that you don't have any info 😂
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 4 ай бұрын
@@George35able They come with a charger you would just have to pick a generator. I have never took a charger to the track. I just bring a spare gas bike instead. Lol. But I have yet to need a charge before finishing a ride.
@George35able
@George35able 4 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors Ok, makes sense, appreciate all of this info!
@michaelreid9172
@michaelreid9172 11 ай бұрын
Good stuff. On the throttle could you maybe trim the end to have a better fit? I have had to donthisnon some aftermarket throtte tunes that were lomg. The bar marking issue doesn't bother me. I have had many bike where the marks were obscured by something lile a damper etc. Also back in the day bars didnt have marks.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Can't trim this throttle or even open it/remove the tube. Its all electronic.
@davidinLA424
@davidinLA424 11 ай бұрын
Just FYI, KTM 2022 and 2023 wheels are different from each other and not perfect swaps even with KTM models, even of the same year. I had to buy certain KTM spacers and axle seals to make everything work with my KTM Factory DID wheels and stock ones. A bit tricky.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
True! That's right I had Dubya send me spacers for my custom wheels I had on my 19 to swap to the 23. I've got 2019 SXF wheels, 2020 xcfw wheels and 23 sxf wheels. Hoping to get one of the 19" wheels I have to work. Someone said the 20 xcfw/FE wheel works but i've already got the 18" so won't matter. I did order a rear stark 19" wheel/tire set for $395 from them. Hard to beat that really.
@bob15479
@bob15479 10 ай бұрын
That sucks
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 10 ай бұрын
@@bob15479 good news is the wheels with mounted tire, tube and rim lock from Stark are only $400! I got both 18 and 19.
@gedigan3346
@gedigan3346 11 ай бұрын
How much of the subscription model features are locked out if you don't pay$$ every month? mapping throttle control, traction control.. Very awesome bike, its just sub model is a no for me. If the batteries get liter and longer life...will consider 2nd or 3rd model.. There is a new law in EU that all battery items have to be replaceable, so there will be some big changes coming in the next couple years.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
No subscription at all.
@johansegernas
@johansegernas 9 ай бұрын
Is the issue with a 19 or an 18 wheel on?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 9 ай бұрын
Both 18 and 19. I have both of them. Clearance fix is run a 13T front sprocket. They are coming with this on the 18" wheel now. Sidestand is too short on either wheel size. Needs to be at least 1" longer to hold the bike stable on dirt.
@johansegernas
@johansegernas 9 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors thank you for your info and time!
@gonyg5316
@gonyg5316 11 ай бұрын
Wow. I would have thought that Stark Enterprises would make a better product with none of these problems. I mean I’m sure that Ironmans suit was way more difficult to make and get to function properly. That sort of money you’d be expecting a work of art with no issues. This seems like it’s a bitza that some mates thought would be fun to throw together in the garage after a drink session. At this price point I don’t think it’s acceptable.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Haha i love it. Actually the bike is absolutely dialed!! Just a few dumb issues that can be easily solved in future production. Nothing that would prevent me from buying another. I'm actually thinking about selling a KTM or 2 and ordering a 2nd Varg!
@gonyg5316
@gonyg5316 11 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors I suppose. KTM have been using its customers as RND for years. I’m one of their lab rats and have been for over 15 years. It just pisses me off that with everything going up these days companies have the nerve to release a product that isn’t quite as it should be. All the problems you listed seem to be easily avoided with the sourcing of some better and more suited parts or making their own. I understand they are new but still shouldn’t expect the customers to cop it. KTM are the same. Keep raising prices and giving less and less each year. I got sick of this 2 years ago and swapped to a Gas Gas. In Australia they are about 2 grand cheaper even though it’s the same bike, owned by the same company just in a different colour. The world has really gone mad.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
@@gonyg5316 its its a little bit unfinished. Hopefully they will sort it out. I have had KTMs since 2005. You are right. Less and less. Not even a manual kr tool kit anymore with my 23!
@johnnyringo35
@johnnyringo35 11 ай бұрын
Varg Engineers messed it up.... 🤣
@mikecarlo2049
@mikecarlo2049 3 ай бұрын
You did not mention anything on the weight? With real tubes and Dunlop tires it will be close to 270lbs Are you able to hip the bike up on the tall Stark stand ?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 3 ай бұрын
Dunlops are heavy! I only run Michelins. Pounds lighter.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 3 ай бұрын
I can get it on the stand but its not as easy as a 450. Feels super light when riding though.
@chrissb919
@chrissb919 11 ай бұрын
as an electrician,i don't belive that outlet plate will be replace anytime soon XD
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Needs a different box. Is what is is 🤣
@Acura1NSX
@Acura1NSX 9 ай бұрын
This bike would be described as an.... "almost" Best advice, wait for V2.0
@jokerioafm12
@jokerioafm12 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great vids, I just got mine last week (10/03/23). I was kind of bummed that it is almost a 2 year old (model yr) bike already. Yes, my MSO says it's a 2022 and here it is almost '24 ! Not a big deal except for if I ever go to sell it. it will seem older than it is... How about your bike ? '22 also ? Thanks..
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!my MSO says 2024 model. I have one of the first ones here too. Strange!
@jokerioafm12
@jokerioafm12 9 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors That is strange ? My 10th digit (in the VIN) is a "N" which means 2022. So I'm guessing your 10th (year check digit) is a "R" ?? (because they skip O and Q ) Can you please verify ? Thanks
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 9 ай бұрын
@@jokerioafm12 my 10th digit is N but says 2024.
@jokerioafm12
@jokerioafm12 9 ай бұрын
Odd...@@913outdoors
@hfitf7777
@hfitf7777 3 күн бұрын
@@913outdoors Based on the VIN number, if it has a "N" it is a 2022 no matter what the anything else states. That may be a problem when or if you ever decide to resale it. GREAT VIDEO by the way! I've done a lot of research on the Stark Varg and I am itching to get one. Where did you purchase yours from?
@ridea.l982
@ridea.l982 3 ай бұрын
Nie zrozumialem . Z tyłu felga 19' ?
@igordevalentinis725
@igordevalentinis725 7 ай бұрын
What happen when you ran extrem enduro in the canals full of water..?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 7 ай бұрын
You can ride it underwater.
@igordevalentinis725
@igordevalentinis725 7 ай бұрын
@@913outdoors We whell see when pass some time!😅
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 7 ай бұрын
@@igordevalentinis725 I mean, i'm not trying to test that 🤣. But its been done. No intake or exhaust to fill with water. Maybe a slight electrocution risk. Lol.
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 11 ай бұрын
Looks like the footpegs still only fold straight up, and not up and back on an angle like all other bikes. This will result in broken feet and footpegs.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
No they fold normal. Maybe a little less back than others but enough for sure. Footpegs are really nice too!
@petrosbright
@petrosbright 9 ай бұрын
We need Doug DeMuro to get into a Starg Varg.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 9 ай бұрын
Too many quirks and features 🤣
@jamesnelson6381
@jamesnelson6381 11 ай бұрын
Going to have to figure out how to deal with the fact you can't hear them when on track. Very dangerous situation.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Need horns on these things for passing!
@dylanwatts7100
@dylanwatts7100 11 ай бұрын
Why are your numbers backwards?
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Mirror image! Lol. Camera upside down I guess.
@bernonic
@bernonic 11 ай бұрын
needs bluetooth ear buds to provide the Brraaaap when applying the throttle
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Lol! Would be cool actually.
@RunnerProductions
@RunnerProductions 5 ай бұрын
just some advice, thought the video would be warning against the bike..maybe title "Stark Varg. Best Bike, but here is what I don't like"
@Z0ttMonte
@Z0ttMonte 11 ай бұрын
For a bike with this price everything should be perfect!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I've come to expect some issues on all bikes but the sidestand and chainlength/sprocket size/tire clearance should have been sorted out for sure. And the tubes.
@ryanpearson3381
@ryanpearson3381 10 ай бұрын
It costs the same as a new KTM and it’s a first year, ground up design?! This guy, and almost everyone else who’s ridden it say it’s the best bike they’ve ever ridden. Jeez man, what the heck else do you want?
@mrichter4681
@mrichter4681 10 ай бұрын
You ask too much. This was a ground up design and the first edition of their first model. What they've done is incredible. Swedes are flexing for sure.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 10 ай бұрын
@@mrichter4681 Agree. I'm very happy with it despite a few small flaws. No bike is perfect. They hit a home run with this one!
@chrisvillarreal2752
@chrisvillarreal2752 10 ай бұрын
It typically is but if you’re wanting to take a perfect bike and start changing shit on it why make it perfect at all? Typical consumers want to add aftermarket shit to everything they get regardless if it works perfect as it comes.
@newbee2025
@newbee2025 11 ай бұрын
This is the kind of review we all were waiting!!! Still impressed with this 1st model! What are your thoughts about battery range? Thanks for the honest review!
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! The battery will outlast me for sure! At least on the MX track. For trails....we will see! Have not had a chance yet. Soon! Its about the same range as a tank of gas on my 350. I never bring extra gas to the track so it should be great for me. On my hardpack MX track I am seeing about 1% per minute.
@hardergamer
@hardergamer 11 ай бұрын
Twist the throttle body 90 degrees forward and the break leaver will clear it, but I will be changing mine to a cable-operated hall throttle body, and then use any bike throttle you like, look on the endless-sphere forum, many others do this mode as it's safer on the trail.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
The Varg throttle housing is 100% round. No indent at all. No cables.
@mandusjonsson3811
@mandusjonsson3811 11 ай бұрын
Feels like these problems are caused by being a first gen bike. Like we are used to bikes being really thought through from like ktm or yamaha but they have couple generations of bikes under their belts.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
For sure. Luckily its just small things like this and the bike is super dialed! This is the first bike i've ever bought that was set up for my weight exactly. Sag was even set correctly right out of the box! I was amazed. They really fine tuned all the major things and the small stuff was maybe just rushed a bit. Nothing dealbreaking for sure. I want to buy a 2nd one!
@bearbeau13
@bearbeau13 11 ай бұрын
Ktm will eventually get one right
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I'll be first in line! I love my KTMs 😎
@alladar1023
@alladar1023 8 ай бұрын
I don’t have this plug in my country 😢 huh
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure there is an adapter or you can wire it in. Order one from Amazon probably and have an electrician install it.
@FaithandActiondotnet
@FaithandActiondotnet 11 ай бұрын
Wow, what stupid issues! You'd think they'd have that stuff figured out...crazy.
@913outdoors
@913outdoors 11 ай бұрын
They will sort it all out fast! Already seeing updates.
@RIPPERTON
@RIPPERTON 11 ай бұрын
All legitimate complaints. To change the oil just take the oval shaped cover off and you get to see the gears in there too.
@913fuldfart
@913fuldfart 11 ай бұрын
913 is my number too
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