Starmer's u-turn on Gaza, Tory by-election nightmares, and transmaxxing | Podcast #40 ft Ben Zand

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PoliticsJOE

PoliticsJOE

4 ай бұрын

Ed, Oli, and Ava, sit down and unpick Starmer's new call for a ceasefire in Gaza, the recent by-elections, and banning mobile phones in schools. Then journalist Ben Zand swings by to sit down with Ed and discuss his latest documentary Transmaxxing: Life Uncovered, available on Channel 4 now.
Presenters: Ed Campbell, Oli Dugmore, Ava Santina
Production: Laura Beveridge
Studio: Shawnee Linstead and Fin Talbot Jones
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@Lew0604
@Lew0604 4 ай бұрын
Never really post anything too personal, but this podcast has been a weekly ray of sunshine in months of blackness for me, genuinely looking forward to it every week
@GLTDubstep
@GLTDubstep 4 ай бұрын
100%. This podcast does me good
@charlieholland8924
@charlieholland8924 4 ай бұрын
Same everytime i see a new upload it always makes me genuinely happy
@pandemoniumgaming6344
@pandemoniumgaming6344 4 ай бұрын
I feel exactly the same and love this podcast
@sunnysjwinter
@sunnysjwinter 4 ай бұрын
Be kind to yourself Lew. One day at a time. We’re all wishing you the best 💪🏼
@LiamMartinTutorials
@LiamMartinTutorials 4 ай бұрын
Idk what's changed with the lighting and colour but this episode is giving Voldemort orphanage flashback and I'm here for it
@bitandbob1167
@bitandbob1167 4 ай бұрын
Ooooo…love the golf clap start. Classy.
@jayturner90
@jayturner90 4 ай бұрын
You guys do make the British political situation somewhat bearable
@Mightypi
@Mightypi 4 ай бұрын
Re Eds hair, its been my personal cannon that he simply wishes to emulate Michael Walker.
@ChrisBrandrick
@ChrisBrandrick 4 ай бұрын
Ed, you just set a 20 second timer on my HomePod.
@Relisysification
@Relisysification 4 ай бұрын
The way that Oli and Ed act like they don't know the rules for going to the kink club, we all know that you both go it's fine.
@kalvindeane1
@kalvindeane1 4 ай бұрын
Indeed, Ed Campbell is definitely going there for his mermaid fantasy
@leegarvey1
@leegarvey1 4 ай бұрын
The kidney stone urinal had me rolling LOL
@octarinehk
@octarinehk 4 ай бұрын
So 5 minutes in and you set a 20 second timer on my HomePod. Thanks team 😂
@raylder6339
@raylder6339 4 ай бұрын
Not sure about the theory that PolJoe uses a green screen, but something green is reflecting off Ava’s hair in literally every episode.
@dylanpowell4837
@dylanpowell4837 4 ай бұрын
emmm maybe green light
@davidpacker7602
@davidpacker7602 4 ай бұрын
it's a green light, also a green screen would be messing with the green cans they're drinking from. not to mention you'd be able to tell immediately anyway
@tobypettit6417
@tobypettit6417 4 ай бұрын
Probably a green light, because you can literally see the black curtain in the background
@arthurtaylor2496
@arthurtaylor2496 4 ай бұрын
They are not rushing to vote Labour because Labour is not promising any changes to austerity etc.
@UnderscoreZeroLP
@UnderscoreZeroLP 4 ай бұрын
ed is so sexy
@eljay5746
@eljay5746 4 ай бұрын
If Staunton is inaccurate then prove it by compensating the SPMs & admonish the lot of them. Also Fujitsu should should be pledging at least the same as the Govt (public money). Any compensation should be paid out of the Fujitsu fund first until zero funds left then move onto public funds.
@Westlake72
@Westlake72 4 ай бұрын
The sound level is very low this week guys.
@Inceyb
@Inceyb 4 ай бұрын
It might not have been appropriate for Ava to announce her running for the leader of the Reform party on the Podcast. But her mandatory smoking and vaping policies are certainly interesting.
@nitomurray6137
@nitomurray6137 4 ай бұрын
"I love a great smash cut" - ironically has one when Ava starts with "I was sexti-" *cut* 🤣
@benmorris118
@benmorris118 4 ай бұрын
The phone ban feels odd to me as a mate who works in a school was telling me only last week that his school was planning on enforcing multifactor authentication for students. Dunno if this is a call from the education minister, but it certainly doesnt make much sense if banning phones aswell. Wouldnt be the most idiotic thing theyve ever come out with, but its still pretty stupid
@rikiba851
@rikiba851 4 ай бұрын
We absolutely need proper media literacy education. Ideally throughout secondary education so that by the time a kid gets to the age of 13, when they meet the requirements to join up to most of these social media websites, they have already had 2 years of relevant media literacy education.
@MK-fd3gz
@MK-fd3gz 4 ай бұрын
Oli - Tor is an acronym for "The Onion Router".
@gyorkshire257
@gyorkshire257 4 ай бұрын
Keir Starmer, a human rights lawyer who never saw a war crime he didn't feel should possibly stop in several months time. Except that one time when he was in favour of it.
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of someone else
@Relugus
@Relugus 4 ай бұрын
Lloyd George created the Balfour Declaration because he hated French atheists.
@Rick-mf3gh
@Rick-mf3gh 4 ай бұрын
It still sounds to me like you are saying "Love podcasts. Hate nonces." - which is fair.
@Mushroom-indi
@Mushroom-indi 4 ай бұрын
💯💯😂
@jeff__w
@jeff__w 4 ай бұрын
5:07 Cory Doctorow’s article about “enshittification” [platform decay] in the _Financial Times_ is well worth a read. (The concept has been around for over a year-Doctorow first wrote about it on his blog, later republished in _Wired,_ concerning TikTok in January, 2023.)
@bailey3209
@bailey3209 4 ай бұрын
We had two spoons in our city at the time and my wife and I went too see how many drinks we could get from one "substantial" meal, we got 8 pints in from one spoons and then got told we had had enough for one meal and had to leave and we went to the other one for some pudding and got another 8 pints there😅
@RedSaint83
@RedSaint83 4 ай бұрын
1:14:30 Stoicism? Really? 🙄
@stephenglancy8551
@stephenglancy8551 4 ай бұрын
By far the best politcal commentary available. Facts and real debate tinged with utter contemp of the melts that polute Westminster. Ed better be a Celtic fan!!!🍀💚
@BehindFlyingCheese
@BehindFlyingCheese 4 ай бұрын
To describe the contrast from Ed's interview back to the main podcast as jarring would be an understatement. Intriguing interview then WHAM back to farting paint
@JackHGUK
@JackHGUK 4 ай бұрын
Major deja vu with the eds haircut chat.
@pandemoniumgaming6344
@pandemoniumgaming6344 4 ай бұрын
Also please sort out the Gate on the mics, sometimes the sound is to quiet but today it was obviously the gate was to high so they kept cutting out. Love your podcast so much but only issue is always the sound.
@jeff__w
@jeff__w 4 ай бұрын
41:06 _cavolo nero_ Italian kale _A loose-leafed cabbage from Tuscany, Italy. The leaves are a very dark green, almost black, hence its name, which translates as 'black cabbage'. It has a pleasantly tangy, bitter flavour, with a sweet aftertaste._
@andrewcoley6029
@andrewcoley6029 4 ай бұрын
Transmaxxing, is this an April foolmaxxing thing?
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 4 ай бұрын
No, it's where you can buy cheap designer clothing
@DINOROAR2912
@DINOROAR2912 4 ай бұрын
For the Berghein question, big coat is always the way to go
@stevenhoward3358
@stevenhoward3358 4 ай бұрын
When is immediate not immediate? Is now not immediate? We are always in all ways nowhere, now here! How soon is now? Well there's a song in that somewhere.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 4 ай бұрын
i do think these by elections do show that Refoms national polling is over inflated. As Ed said, nationally they are polling roughly 10% averaged over the whole country. But that means that in some constituencies they will get close to nothing, if they even bothered standing a candidate. And in other more naturally rightwing, brexit voting, anti immigration seats they would get well above 10%. Like 15%-20%. If they're only getting 13% in one of their target seats like Wellingborough then they're not going to average 10% across the whole country. Its not like they aren't doing well for a small party. But they arent doing as well as their national polling, which means their national poll numbers are over inflated. And since the tories are using those national poll numbers to constantly scare themselves about the impact reform will have at the general election it might well be that they are jumping at shaddows
@ILikedGooglePlus
@ILikedGooglePlus 4 ай бұрын
+++
@andymcpandy2128
@andymcpandy2128 4 ай бұрын
Bob Ross could fart paint.
@JK-zx3go
@JK-zx3go 4 ай бұрын
Twisting in the wind.
@matthewparker2810
@matthewparker2810 4 ай бұрын
"If one farted pain, what would one piss?" - clearly anguish :P
@rewIndustry
@rewIndustry 4 ай бұрын
@PoliticsJOE : your intro clip audio volume is far too loud, compared to your stream audio - is this intended to be some kind of alarm?
@UnderscoreZeroLP
@UnderscoreZeroLP 4 ай бұрын
it's a youtube thing
@jimr1603
@jimr1603 4 ай бұрын
Doctorow would be a good guest plugging one of his books
@bulletproofblouse
@bulletproofblouse 4 ай бұрын
Is it me, or is the volume really low on this one? Usually I have my PC volume at 20m, I needed to push it up to 40 here.
@Mart1523
@Mart1523 4 ай бұрын
The transmaxxing manifesto is on a par with the unibombers for the levels on unhinged garbage in it. With quotes like "how to induce gender dysphoria" and "i still love guys cause men are awesome" it's such a hilarious read
@tomquinn9765
@tomquinn9765 4 ай бұрын
59:00 had me properly crying in laughter.
@johnstewart4943
@johnstewart4943 4 ай бұрын
If you're growing marigolds on the allotment, why not grow the mexican marigold, Tagetes minuta, which is also a culinary herb? 🙂
@KIAKAHABENJI
@KIAKAHABENJI 4 ай бұрын
How many examples do we have of this government's policies being formed by the right-wing media.
@matthewburnham-jones3518
@matthewburnham-jones3518 4 ай бұрын
27:13 - anyone got a link?
@AppleAirsoft
@AppleAirsoft 4 ай бұрын
This transmaxxing thing completely ignored feminine males, femboys love looking feminine but being male, my facial structure is much more flattering as a feminine looking male, it has NOTHING to do with being trans.
@TimesFM4532
@TimesFM4532 4 ай бұрын
Poltics is the only profession you cant change your mind as events change
@stevenhoenig4404
@stevenhoenig4404 4 ай бұрын
Tor is literally called the "the onion router"
@Slaithyte
@Slaithyte 4 ай бұрын
yes
@LTAStahly
@LTAStahly 4 ай бұрын
Crazy, didn't expect Ava to be a Reform girly
@JackHGUK
@JackHGUK 4 ай бұрын
She isn't lol she just plays the devil's advocate.
@RedSaint83
@RedSaint83 4 ай бұрын
19:50 And then there's Cuba. Boycotts and pressure has done nothing but hurt the Cubans.
@Deedumdee
@Deedumdee 4 ай бұрын
love podcast hate nonsense the politics Jo podcast ladies and gentlemen
@ben8430
@ben8430 4 ай бұрын
When will you cover the SEZ / Freeports disaster?
@derpius3
@derpius3 4 ай бұрын
Ordering a triple scotch, double shot of scotch and a lovely scotch egg wash it down
@archive3339
@archive3339 4 ай бұрын
According to the police man who came to my school once, sexting as someone or between people under 18 is illegal regardless of the consent law. Like he said even if you have your own picture on your phone thats also illegal... according to him but that one might have been bs
@mystic_mimi21
@mystic_mimi21 4 ай бұрын
Told the same. It’s considered producing child p@rn images even if it’s of one’s self. Likewise sexing is distribution.
@archive3339
@archive3339 4 ай бұрын
@@mystic_mimi21 yeah i thought so, i was covering my arse with the last line in case i was wrong on the internet lolol
@alexbutler8930
@alexbutler8930 4 ай бұрын
Whoever is colour-grading this episode has absolutely done Oli and Ed here. Milk bottle, oatmeal, dulux, creme fraiche looking MFs.
@mikemorton954
@mikemorton954 4 ай бұрын
Get some Hostas. The slugs will be very busy eating those and might ignore your other plants.
@IndaloMan
@IndaloMan 4 ай бұрын
Samsung Galaxy Watch has it all....
@jamiebob
@jamiebob 4 ай бұрын
I say this as a social worker who works with sex offenders. The legality of sexting a 17 yo depends on the nature of the sexting. If it includes pictures, then it breaks underage porn laws. Otherwise it's just creapy and legally grey.
@1pauljs
@1pauljs 4 ай бұрын
No Kale for Comrade Dugmore. It’s for the plebs 😜
@comrade171
@comrade171 4 ай бұрын
@10:25 - Keir meant that he would back an immediate ceasefire after the the Israeli army have finished with their genocide of the Palestinians
@KIAKAHABENJI
@KIAKAHABENJI 4 ай бұрын
I watched that podcast Ollie, I'm not denying the former black hat is on a crusade, but his politics and who he now works with are very suspect.
@richardsmith3917
@richardsmith3917 4 ай бұрын
It should be raised to 18 but have romeo juliet laws to protect teenagers
@Newsbro89
@Newsbro89 4 ай бұрын
Romeo and Juliet laws? They were both like 14/15 in the play.
@richardsmith3917
@richardsmith3917 4 ай бұрын
@@Newsbro89 disturbingly it was more like 13/17. But that is besides the point. A Romeo and juliet law is a bad name for what is essentially guards for teenagers not to be criminalise
@user-py6tr4kt9j
@user-py6tr4kt9j 4 ай бұрын
34 minute in you discuss Simon Danczuk and his disgraceful sexting a teenager. Firstly would we have this discussion if he had done this as a teacher rather than an MP? The same rules to teachers, etc should apply to all adults. Especially people elected to public office Secondly there is the whole issue of Danczuk exposing Cyril Smith. The Liberal MP who was a beast of man in the 1970s and 1980s. He even wrote a book about him. Thirdly he was MP for Rochadle during the exposing and trail of grooming gangs. Fourthly Simon Danczuk ex-wife, and married to him at the time, was a victim of child abuse/similar grooming he was caught doing. Danczuk sexting a teenager is a form of grooming. By the way the "anti-grooming" candidate Ava was trying to contact is probably some ex-BNPer, etc. Hence why you can't contact!
@LunaRose1312
@LunaRose1312 4 ай бұрын
The transmaxxing documentary was disgusting and that dude who presented it was also vile.
@mikebg1984
@mikebg1984 4 ай бұрын
Has anybody noticed oli in the new maryland cookies advert, shilling for the man.
@Minorheadlines
@Minorheadlines 4 ай бұрын
I want the yelling back :(
@peachWolf215
@peachWolf215 4 ай бұрын
incredibly green
@johnstewart4943
@johnstewart4943 4 ай бұрын
'Cavolo Nero' is a cultivar of kale.
@Escotind
@Escotind 4 ай бұрын
Schools use Google classroom ..also kids use phones to research
@carelesshx
@carelesshx 4 ай бұрын
If it's not a green screen why is everything green?
@mrblobfish121
@mrblobfish121 4 ай бұрын
Green lights
@IndaloMan
@IndaloMan 4 ай бұрын
​@@mrblobfish121Correct. You can see them in Ed's glasses. It is done to satisfy the YT alogoritm comment count fetish.
@hoisinholdup
@hoisinholdup 4 ай бұрын
My brother in Christ, green screens are for removing the colour green, not adding it in
@neildando5742
@neildando5742 4 ай бұрын
Correct: we have (pretty much) no place or power in the world stage. What reason would either sides in this conflict have to listen to what we think? Calling for a ceasefire now, while it obviously can’t happen, weakens our voice later when it becomes possible to have one.
@joshmccaw2777
@joshmccaw2777 4 ай бұрын
E D I N B I O
@richardcook1987
@richardcook1987 4 ай бұрын
good - no screaming. well done
@RDHamel
@RDHamel 4 ай бұрын
I only watch for the bum content
@jo3ld0wn
@jo3ld0wn 4 ай бұрын
Turn your laptop around
@leegarvey1
@leegarvey1 4 ай бұрын
Is it my set up or are skin tones washed out?
@pandemoniumgaming6344
@pandemoniumgaming6344 4 ай бұрын
I love Oli until he comes out with his boomer takes lol Banning phones at school won't do anything and as pointed out its just another way to say its not our issue it's theirs.
@nefariouspurplebadger
@nefariouspurplebadger 4 ай бұрын
Starmer needs to just shut up and say nothing.
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 4 ай бұрын
He literally does - every time he speaks
@Adamjonesathome
@Adamjonesathome 4 ай бұрын
Wenger out
@tabbymoonshine5986
@tabbymoonshine5986 4 ай бұрын
Wanger out
@kevinmunro6930
@kevinmunro6930 4 ай бұрын
I get that this podcast is supposed to have a "matey informal " vibe but the inane chatter at the start just sounds like a bunch of people in their early twenties chatting on a train. Can we get to the actual point of the podcast please?
@DevastateOrionVII
@DevastateOrionVII 4 ай бұрын
Ughhh I love the commentary but I hate the banter 😵‍💫😵‍💫
@isaac1403
@isaac1403 4 ай бұрын
Ed give your mate Ollie a brotherly handy. Is Ava single? Screw it. Give him a handy. #makeolliescream
@latentcadence5204
@latentcadence5204 4 ай бұрын
ROFL....I come here for the news...the assless chaps news :DDDDD
@celadortraffic819
@celadortraffic819 Ай бұрын
Oli please stop saying 'Ginormous' you're a great guy but it's either enormous or giant. Fuck.
@npblosch19
@npblosch19 4 ай бұрын
Get a chicken 🐔
@diamondsearle
@diamondsearle 4 ай бұрын
Don't get the comment on X or what it is based on it is so much better than twitter was not that i really used twitter. At least now you get two sides of a debate and there is lots of good spaces content! Why do you think it has lost its function??
@FabianMacGintyONeill
@FabianMacGintyONeill 4 ай бұрын
It would be good if it was genuinely an equal debate between both sides but because everyone who pays €8 a month to Elon for a blue tick gets boosted to the top of the replies it just encourages alt-right circlejerking, cos they're the type of people who'd willingly pay €8 to the billionaire manchild
@rod9829
@rod9829 4 ай бұрын
1:13:30 to answer your question from someone who falls into looksmaxxing but who isn’t an incel: It’s basically because women have a much greater value than men in dating in the modern day. So going from tinder stats the vast majority of all “likes” given from women to men are skewed in the top 5% of male profiles whereas male to female likes are normally distributed. So although tinder is not the end and be all it shows that “higher value” men empirically can have multiple sexual partners whereas the “average man” may only get some in their lifetime and “below average” will not get any. So therefore if you want to have sexual partners you need to compete with other men, hence “maxxing” to try to get into or near enough the top 5% But what if you’re the 20th or 10th percentile in terms of attractiveness? These are incels (trucels -> true incels) as opposed to mentalcels (mental illness, neurodivergence) or ethniccels (Indians etc, who on average struggle with dating in western society) There’s also lookism which correlates with this: more attractive people tend to be treated better than unattractive people. So if you are an “ugly” “short” “weak jawed” “neurodivergent” man there’s little chance you will get laid and it’s not your fault…
@verraguid
@verraguid 4 ай бұрын
ur an incel we get it
@robertskeen1427
@robertskeen1427 4 ай бұрын
The Gary Stevenson interview was great , sitting through your small talk , not so much . Good work .
@enemywithin1295
@enemywithin1295 4 ай бұрын
This ongoing saga about Gaza is just tedious now. Starmer could have called for a ceasefire on the first day of hostilities, and the exact same number of people would be dead.
@stephenwood2172
@stephenwood2172 4 ай бұрын
By this logic the UK doesn't need to speak out on anything that happens in other countries, because we have zero influence. Even though we help arm Israel. If UK pressure helped the genocide end (the US will have to call it a day at some point) even one day early hundreds of lives would be saved and it would be worth it. Furthermore I want to know what politicians will do in power. Starmer has shown he has no regard for innocent life and has outed himself as a disgusting human being - I don't expect him to do anything to help anyone but himself as PM.
@enemywithin1295
@enemywithin1295 4 ай бұрын
@@stephenwood2172 You’re equating “the U.K.” with the leader of the opposition. The situation is hugely different if you are the Prime Minister. You actually hold power. And sure, Kier Starmer is a terrible, evil person who only wants suffering for all human beings. You are very smart.
@enemywithin1295
@enemywithin1295 4 ай бұрын
@@stephenwood2172 You're equating "the UK" with "the Leader of the Opposition". You can do precisely fuck all in opposition. Once you're PM is a different matter. But that's the point - UK pressure would not have stopped anything. I don't understand why people have a hard time grasping this - the UK's standing on the international stage is so severely reduced. The Empire is long gone, and we don't have the EU to bolster our position. We are a small island, and, rather fittingly, are quite isolated. The Israelis aren't even listening to the Americans or to the ICJ, I find it extremely unlikely Starmer's intervention will make any difference. People have been killing each other there for hundreds and hundreds of years. Yeah, cos every conflict will be reacted to in the same way, and you're correct - I'm sure Starmer is up at night wondering how he's going to make everyone's life worse and how he can continue to be a disgusting human being! You are very smart! I don't understand how you lot never win elections!
@murraymicha
@murraymicha 4 ай бұрын
9.13 mins of indulgent shiite
@enemywithin1295
@enemywithin1295 4 ай бұрын
Twitter is way better now
@jasonmotz5282
@jasonmotz5282 4 ай бұрын
What a clown show.
@SkandalouzStyle
@SkandalouzStyle 4 ай бұрын
You lot of got a lot to learn about having a popular podcast and the first thing is not to talk about bullshit smells for two minutes at the beginning of the video! The last time I watched your stuff you annoyed me and just as I was thinking about giving you another chance you've done it again. Your amount of likes should tell you something. 💯
@C_P-fq2vo
@C_P-fq2vo 4 ай бұрын
Switched after 5 minutes, strikes me as rather juvenile
@InsanitiesBrother
@InsanitiesBrother 4 ай бұрын
"Israel should call a ceasefire" - what follows from this exactly? Is Israel going to get criticised if Hamas continues firing missiles and then Israel attacks again? Will the same "yeah but after the atrocities of Israel, you can't blame Palestinians for being angry".
@shuaibafzal6042
@shuaibafzal6042 4 ай бұрын
Israel should withdraw all illegal settlements. They should agree to and stick to a ceasefire and start diplomatic conversations which will lead towards lasting. Israel cant agreee to a ceasefire but then continue to expand settlements. It won’t work.
@InsanitiesBrother
@InsanitiesBrother 4 ай бұрын
@@shuaibafzal6042 Land swaps, not all settlements can or should realistically be returned if lasting peace is to happen. Land swap does imply though that Palestinians would be compensated. All the newer (post 2005) settlements though should be returned IMO. Onto stick to a ceasefire. This is just dumb jargon. If Palestine, a free state in this scenario decides to attack Israel, there is NO reason for Israel to not defend itself.
@thelastsaxon6279
@thelastsaxon6279 4 ай бұрын
Im not voting. Waste of time.
@govang5191
@govang5191 4 ай бұрын
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