Is the Stranger a Sith or a Knight of Ren or Something Else - Star Wars Explained Weekly Q&A

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What IS the Stranger? Is he a Sith like he implies, or something different? Let's speculate!
0:00 Intro
3:36 Rey movie update
6:58 Andor season two update
10:16 Is the Stranger a Knight of Ren?
24:38 Is the Stranger connected to the witches?
32:58 Was the Stranger a former Jedi?
39:18 Is the Acolyte making the Jedi too morally gray?
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@AnHonestBear
@AnHonestBear Ай бұрын
I think he is the apprentice of the Sith Master. He is tired of hiding and biding time, so he is trying to find his own apprentice to usurp his master. As is tradition.
@maykent5796
@maykent5796 Ай бұрын
I hope we get to see his master.I hope it not one of witch.
@NtrudErS
@NtrudErS Ай бұрын
I agree with this. He's basically the same age as Osha and Mae. Doubt he was a bad boy Sith as a child planning all this out
@rashaundaily5438
@rashaundaily5438 Ай бұрын
@@NtrudErShe did say in a interview view after this episode he is the Sith Lord rather him be that because I don’t need a last minute person popping in like let him be the big bad and let him work in the shadows for this time period it’s a big galaxy it can be more then one set of sith with plans we don’t know about that could have had other plan no one knew about until now
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Ай бұрын
Yup, and he needs an Acolyte to do that
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 Ай бұрын
Im thinking Mother Koril is the master
@troubleondemand7703
@troubleondemand7703 Ай бұрын
I cackled when Milly compared the Knights of Ren to a sad little boy band.
@matheusfernandes2102
@matheusfernandes2102 Ай бұрын
"Yord: he gets into your head and he stays there" "Osha: my mother could do that, get inside the head of a Jedi. I saw it once" There is no way this is just a throw away line, it's a major hint
@iwantitall21
@iwantitall21 Ай бұрын
Qimir is their dad , or was at least involved in their creations , which I’m guessing is where Sol should remember him from
@boi905
@boi905 Ай бұрын
I assumed it was a red herring to throw you off from thinking the Stranger was Qimir. Before episode 5 it was telegraphed that it could be either the zabrak mother or Qimir
@Midnight_7567
@Midnight_7567 Ай бұрын
i think the line is quite literally but the way they go about it is differently, Mother Aniseya can control you like a puppet, Qimir gets in your head through fear
@jimcecil4558
@jimcecil4558 Ай бұрын
I think they blame the jedi massacre on the witches. Oh the witch took control of Yord and made him kill all the other jedis when he was done she used the magik to snap his neck.
@PerovNigma
@PerovNigma Ай бұрын
I want to see Krennic in Luthen's shop, just so we can hear Ben Mendelsohn' and Stellan Skarsgård's distinct voices together.
@Igor_the_Mad
@Igor_the_Mad Ай бұрын
Krennic is a Space Hipster, so I could absolutely see him buying the most cliche and tasteless item in Luthen's shop.
@uh.theroyalwe
@uh.theroyalwe Ай бұрын
“They’re just like a sad little boy band” -> your power of synthesis is impressive
@elwizschold
@elwizschold Ай бұрын
Having the Mother being Sith now also gives them an "out", as the Jedi can basically go "oh, it wasn't really Sith - it was witches".
@Crocthunder
@Crocthunder Ай бұрын
I still have a feeling Sol is gonna take the fall for all of this too
@jacobjackson2787
@jacobjackson2787 Ай бұрын
So we're just going all out on the idea the Jedi are stupid? the guy that is obviously a sith even said he was one must be a witch because his master is from the exclusively FEMALE group of witches.. so the GUY must be a witch 2.. and the logic of a witch revealing she's a sith and the Jedi responding with oh so theyre just witches..
@cartersminis
@cartersminis Ай бұрын
The hand gesture to the Yord shrine with the little sad groan killed me. 😂
@furonguy42
@furonguy42 Ай бұрын
26:15 "When he said 'you don't recognise me?', I was like 'ooh, they've met before', then I went 'oh yeah, two episodes ago". I had the exact same response when Yord was like "You." and Qimir said "Surprise!", I was like "Oh, Yord knows Qimir somehow!" Duh, they confronted him in episode 2. Embarrassing that I managed to forget, since the exchange of "Who is he?" "I thought he was with you" in that exact scene had me laughing so hard I had to pause the episode.🤦‍♀
@myriadmediamusings
@myriadmediamusings Ай бұрын
Oh my those arms of his...
@calebmurphy9406
@calebmurphy9406 Ай бұрын
Vader: "I have a cool costume" Maul: "I have a cool lightsaber" Ren: "I also have a cool lightsaber" This guy: 💪
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 Ай бұрын
He hid those arms well under his disguise
@user-zl9sh9mz6h
@user-zl9sh9mz6h Ай бұрын
​@@neofulcrum5013The tripping and fumbling help the illusion, too. 😊
@EthOrlen
@EthOrlen Ай бұрын
35:24 I think is wording is also part of his thesis statement. He doesn’t want to be defined by the Jedi’s rules and definitions! But, he needs to speak language that Sol will understand. “Look man, I’m not really an in-the-box kind of guy, but if you need to put me in a box, here’s the closest match.”
@trill_jenth
@trill_jenth Ай бұрын
If it’s a Sith story, The Stranger could be the only recurring character throughout more seasons. Possibly showing how he branches off and creates the Knight of Ren. Maybe unrelated but when confronting Maul and Savage, Palpatine says, “You have become a rival”. I’ve always interpreted that as there have been other rivals throughout recent Sith history. Could be the case here
@Bas-TB
@Bas-TB Ай бұрын
The proper context the Rival think is the fact that 3 sith entered the room and only one Sith left that room.
@JoshieboyStudios
@JoshieboyStudios Ай бұрын
The same way Ben Kenobi’s theme became the Jedi theme, I can see Kylo’s theme becoming the Knights of Ren theme
@tommyp440
@tommyp440 Ай бұрын
Or how the Imperial March represents both Darth Vader and the Empire as a whole
@matiasnl
@matiasnl Ай бұрын
Nah. Cause it plays when he’s Ben solo. It’s just his theme.
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 Ай бұрын
The Stranger is A Sith why would Leylse headland lie
@JoshieboyStudios
@JoshieboyStudios Ай бұрын
@@TheHeston83 He could still be a Sith?
@jaricarlon9968
@jaricarlon9968 Ай бұрын
​@@JoshieboyStudiosI hope they don't make the Knights of Ren as old as the sith that ruins the legends timeline for sure
@SailorDisco
@SailorDisco Ай бұрын
I get the feeling that the few Jedi who know about Qimir by the end of this season may not believe he was really a Sith. It would explain why Mace Windu would be skeptical of a random dark side user with a red blade being Sith. That just reinforces the arrogance of the Jedi of the prequel era.
@bryanferreira9577
@bryanferreira9577 Ай бұрын
I might be misremembering, but I recall the "Rise of Kylo Ren" comics series opening on a scene where Ren demands that someone kill their brother as an initiation rite. I could see the Stranger doing the same with Mae at first, and the four Jedi from Brendok. But now, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Osha is manipulated into going after Mae as part of the same initiation rite.
@Darththadiator
@Darththadiator Ай бұрын
People keep saying this show breaks the lore about the sith being extinct. Well what about when Yoda and Mace are talking at Qui-Gon’s funeral.? “Always two there are, a master and an apprentice…. “ How would Yoda know about the rule of two if they’ve been extinct? There is most certainly a Jedi council coverup.
@Elvisbackpack
@Elvisbackpack Ай бұрын
The thing about that is that exactly one Jedi knows about Qimir saying the word "Sith", and that's just Sol. The Order may never learn of Qimir for one reason or another, and the lore stays true and Ki-Adi's line remains the falsehood it always was.
@stuartbagley2586
@stuartbagley2586 Ай бұрын
@@ElvisbackpackAnd even if Sol makes it back, the conversation could be as follows: “Dark side user killed 7 Jedi. “ “What was he?” “He said he had no name, but we would call him a Sith.” “The Sith are extinct so he couldn’t be a Sith.” “Oh yeah, that’s right.”
@Bas-TB
@Bas-TB Ай бұрын
@@ElvisbackpackI think the specifically brought in Ka-Adi Mundi in order to keep the meaning of his phrase the same. He believes a wrong thing, he might be given a reason why by this show. Rather than just repeating something he heared.
@mattking993
@mattking993 Ай бұрын
No coverup required. This goes all the way back to when the rule of 2 was 1st created by Darth Bane. Darth Bane is believed to be the only sith that survived their extinction and was slain by his apprentice. I am not a master of star wars history so do not ask me for specifics but some how the jedi knew about his death and the rule of 2 and it was after his death that the jedi believed the sith to be extinct.
@MultiArchangel
@MultiArchangel Ай бұрын
The Sith were never extinct. The Jedi thought they were extinct.
@Sir_Lorekeep
@Sir_Lorekeep Ай бұрын
Fur clad Barbarian walks through the door: “Some might call me… a Viking.” Visible confusion
@redbeard5939
@redbeard5939 Ай бұрын
That may be the perfect summation. It's been about 1,000 years since vikings were the scourge of Europe and the average American could still give you a reasonable description of a viking (but would also not know whether they were a unified nation or just bands of raiders). At the same time, the description of "fur clad Barbarian" is not actually descriptive of your average viking and could instead apply just as easily to a wide array of historic threats to more "civilized" areas (e.g. the goths, visigoths, lombards, huns, saxons, franks, avars, cumans).
@katraapplesauce1203
@katraapplesauce1203 Ай бұрын
Yes but then it turns out its a Dane instead and not a Norseman. but anything that looks roughly like that gets lumped into the same drawer. Even more confusiing if its 2024 and someone dresses like that. So this is a good example
@itisthomascasey
@itisthomascasey Ай бұрын
“Some might call me… Norman.” “Hi, Norman. I’m Sol.”
@adamlivingston6599
@adamlivingston6599 Ай бұрын
It makes more sense to me that Rey discovers some other hidden Jedi academy as opposed to starting one on her own. Would be interesting to see her interact with some entity that wants to bring back the Jedi exactly as they were because I don't think that's what she'd want to see. I just sincerely hope we get to see some familiar faces in this story. People like Rancisis, Kestis, that kid with telemetry from that one novel, Grogu, Ezra, maybe Ahsoka.
@MisterJax
@MisterJax Ай бұрын
Exactly what Iwant them to do in Episode 10
@forrestpenrod2294
@forrestpenrod2294 Ай бұрын
Rey is the last Jedi alive after Luke and Leia die. If the sequels did anything right its to end on a clean slate for a galaxy of new characters. I wouldn't mind Grogu showing up as relatively untrained force user since he'd still b a kid basically but that's it. Unless they're a force ghost I don't want to see any returning Jedi.
@MrBoJangles
@MrBoJangles Ай бұрын
​@@forrestpenrod2294she was barely trained in the ways of the Jedi
@forrestpenrod2294
@forrestpenrod2294 Ай бұрын
@@MrBoJangles She trained for a full year under Leia and with the Jedi texts between Last Jedi and Rise. That's the same amount of time as Luke from Empire to Return.
@phantasosxgames8488
@phantasosxgames8488 29 күн бұрын
@@forrestpenrod2294 she isn't really the last Jedi alive , there is the likes of Cal , Ezra and Ahsoka. She is the last templar/centralist jedi , while the other 3 are more of wanderers. That been said , I agree that Rey is basically on her own , as the other 3 had no desire to make an Academy or Jedi Temples and are scattered in the Galaxy.
@ugoeze7360
@ugoeze7360 Ай бұрын
Qmir: You don’t recognize me? Sol: I don’t even know who you are. _Thanos nods head in approval_
@michaelsatterfield2021
@michaelsatterfield2021 Ай бұрын
A jedi academy that Cal has made and he reaches out to Rey after the fall of the First Order
@Ithekro
@Ithekro Ай бұрын
Maybe. There is always Ezra or Ahsoka. Both would be fairly old by then, but still.
@ephesians.6
@ephesians.6 Ай бұрын
Ahsoka was a kid when the Clone Wars began, so she'd be really, really old! Those gray Jedi vibes, tho, they keep you super young!
@Ithekro
@Ithekro Ай бұрын
@@ephesians.6 Ahsoka would be between 85 and 90 years old. Ezra would about 70.
@ephesians.6
@ephesians.6 Ай бұрын
According to Wookiepedia, the average Togrutan lifespan is between 82 and 94 years...so it's possible right? :)
@bhower1138
@bhower1138 Ай бұрын
Besides the comments in interviews, I keep coming back to the fact that he quoted the Sith code and it was clearly a part of Mae's training. I think he is definitely a Sith, and the "might call me Sith" line is an interesting glimpse inside his head and a demonstration that he doesn't care about "the Sith cause" as much as his own power and agenda (which itonically feels like the most Sith outlook a person could have 😅)
@mightheal
@mightheal Ай бұрын
That's just one of the many examples for why Mae isn't the Acolyte that the show is named after.
@tweso1499
@tweso1499 Ай бұрын
As I’ve said in one of Generation Tech’s videos: I see this as two, maybe three ways: 1. Qimir _is_ a Sith (whether currently or formerly like Maul or Millenial) 2. He’s a Dark Jedi (like Set Harth or Desaan), who might have some hidden history involving Sol. 3. He’s a _possible_ member/founder of the Knights of Ren (least likely)
@user-zl9sh9mz6h
@user-zl9sh9mz6h Ай бұрын
Does Darth Millennial say "like", "actually", and "literally" non-stop?
@Luke_SkywaIker
@Luke_SkywaIker Ай бұрын
@@user-zl9sh9mz6h Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Millennial the Needy? I thought not. It’s not a story the Gen X’ers would tell you.
@The.Crawling.Chaos.
@The.Crawling.Chaos. Ай бұрын
Sol means Sun in some languages. Quimir pushed Sol towards darkness when he taunted Sol so Sol nearly Decapitated him while restraining Qimir. Then we got the Acolyte logo with a Sun being eclipsed by darkness.
@PerovNigma
@PerovNigma Ай бұрын
Q&A: Are spice creams called such because they're spicy, or because they're drugged; do people in Star Wars refer to regular spices as "spices"?
@AdamBlue
@AdamBlue Ай бұрын
Qimir is probably an Acolyte himself. I think his obvious reveal is because he's not the big reveal. The big reveal will be his master...which I believe is already a sith apprentice, so keeping with Rule of two, Qimir's plan is to try to get his own acolyte, using the twins' event with Jedi as a starting point.
@jaricarlon9968
@jaricarlon9968 Ай бұрын
Maybe Darth Tenebrous
@Rad0115
@Rad0115 Ай бұрын
If Qimir has a Master, he would be an Apprentice not an Acolyte. An Acolyte is basically the student of a Sith Apprentice. Qimir calls himself a Sith, is able to combat several Jedi and has red lightsabers. He is a Sith.
@AdamBlue
@AdamBlue Ай бұрын
@@Rad0115 But that's my point - Qimir is a side piece for an existing apprentice (plagueis? And teneberous is the master?) And did Qimir call himself a Sith? Didn't he say "you'd call me a sith".
@AdamBlue
@AdamBlue Ай бұрын
@@jaricarlon9968 yes!!!!
@forrestpenrod2294
@forrestpenrod2294 Ай бұрын
I think him being an apprentice is one of the final twists. An Acolyte is basically a Sith padawan and Q'mir is too skilled.
@Iceskyguy
@Iceskyguy Ай бұрын
I don't think it's silly or anything to call the Jedi "the good guys" because that's what they are. Part of the escapism of Star Wars and fiction in general is having good guys to root for in a story and bad guys to root against. And sometimes it isn't as simple as slapping a label on either and it's good to challenge that at times but something this show has really impressed me with is how it's humanised the Jedi really well and how they're presented, showing that they're just people with faults and insecurities and that's something I feel has been needed for Star Wars. Even Vernestra and the Jedi leadership have been shown to have valid concerns to approaching the investigation, things that need to be considered and I wouldn't want that to get flipped on its head by showing some of them committed atrocities on Brendok then hid it. I hope it was more of a tragic misunderstanding because the Jedi, while imperfect, should always be the good guys.
@user-zl9sh9mz6h
@user-zl9sh9mz6h Ай бұрын
The Knights of Ren are pretty cool in the comic book "The Rise of Kylo Ren" and the DK "Rise of Skywalker Visual Guide".
@NTC_Overwatch
@NTC_Overwatch Ай бұрын
Honestly, I think a book following Kylo's version of the Knights of Ren and what they were up to during The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi is the story about them that I would most want at this point. They were so underutilized in the Sequels, and we have no idea where they even were during the majority of the Sequel movies themselves. I need to care more about that group of Knights before I care about their order's history. What we've seen of them in the comics is interesting, but I would rather see more of them after Kylo's takeover.
@DKhuluq
@DKhuluq Ай бұрын
I'm good with Qimir being a Sith apprentice that inspired the Knights of Ren. Maybe he's Darth Ren, and lightsaber becomes "the Ren" and is passed along.
@DigiPen92
@DigiPen92 Ай бұрын
Q&A: Do you think you should address to any Star Wars fans that they don't understand about Lightsabers Stabs don't automatically kill people except for pointing it at the Middle? I seen alot of dumb complaints about Reva and Sabine that they didn't die from Lightsaber Stabs, but they weren't aware they were stabbed at the sides and non-fatal points doesn't straight out kill them?
@CheeseRunner
@CheeseRunner Ай бұрын
Some people had their mind made up years ago about the current state of Star Wars and it'll stay that way. They hate and they want to keep hating and grasp at every single straw they can find no matter how incorrect or insignificant. You have to realise that some fans simply can't be reasoned with and that trying to do so is only a waste of your own time.
@stuartbagley2586
@stuartbagley2586 Ай бұрын
@@CheeseRunnerI needed to have reads your comment earlier. I was trying to reason with one such “fan” earlier today and it was an utter waste of time.
@Danielandthecat
@Danielandthecat Ай бұрын
This! And I know people say “they should boil your blood and ruin you beyond repair” but there are loads of things in star wars that don’t make sense without further lore. People get their limbs cut off all the time. So many people survive fatal wounds in canon and legends because they’re clinging onto their hate etc. Honestly if the story’s interesting I’m sold
@jacobjackson2787
@jacobjackson2787 Ай бұрын
@@CheeseRunnerhow r u acting like people complaining about lightsabers not working like they should are just haters and are incorrect? The most iconic part of star wars (the lightsaber) is treated like a fancy glow stick lots of the time jus bouncing off people now. And if it does manage to actually turn into a lightsaber for a second and stab someone it apparently instantly becomes just a glow stick again and doesn't melt their insides like qui Gon melted a metal door by just sticking his lightsaber in.. not to mention the logic of lightsaber stabs being survivable but a kunai that only goes half an inch deep is game over.
@johnfalk910812
@johnfalk910812 Ай бұрын
Qimir had his Helmet on,when he said,Dont your remember me?,so that would mean that Sol has encountered Qimir,while being masked before.
@ephesians.6
@ephesians.6 Ай бұрын
He also said "surprise" when Yord recognized him...
@ephesians.6
@ephesians.6 Ай бұрын
I think he has Jedi/light side roots...as almost every Sith/dark Force user does...
@michaelkaduck1915
@michaelkaduck1915 Ай бұрын
Q&A: For the next animated series, what do you want to see? I personally want to see them take a break from the Prequel/Dark Times era and do something in the Pre-Sequel Trilogy era. A series with a different art style, centered on Rey, Finn and Poe before The Force Awakens would be what I'd like. It could add more to their upbringing and provide more of the Galaxy to explore in that era, like The Clone Wars did for the Prequels. Rey's life on Jakku could see her abandonment and early struggle understanding the force. Finn's story could have a tone like Andor, exploring how the First Order steals a person's soul. And Poe's story could show his dissolutionment from the Bew Republic and his time with Zorri.
@thelaknight7000
@thelaknight7000 Ай бұрын
Yord: *dies* Smash cut to Natasha Lyonne "Gotta Get Up" starts playing
@ae112r8
@ae112r8 Ай бұрын
The Jecki reference in the shrine was the 3 candles...
@loveblanket6512
@loveblanket6512 Ай бұрын
He's a Sith. The show runner confirmed it in an interview with Entertainment Weekly.
@jamespesetsky
@jamespesetsky Ай бұрын
Or Kymer is like Asaj Ventress in the Clone Wars micro series who declared herself a Sith and Count Dooku laughed at her and said she wasn't because just because you dress and fight like a Sith isn't enough as it can be imitated and we don't know if Kymer is like that
@AdanGarciaAnimation
@AdanGarciaAnimation Ай бұрын
I think hearing Kylos theme in the show pretty much convinces me he’s the first Ren
@EthOrlen
@EthOrlen Ай бұрын
I think the witch connection has to do with how the twins were created. Can’t be a witch technique; they’re allowed to exist, even if they aren’t allowed to train children to use the force. But if they made a deal with a Sith, made the twins with Sith Alchemy…
@RevDev-ov1bu
@RevDev-ov1bu Ай бұрын
They played the theme twice, beginning and end, both when Osha was on screen. Just food for thought.
@Crocthunder
@Crocthunder Ай бұрын
I can see this plot being about one of the last sith during this 1k period getting impatient and disappearing to found the Knights but yea, Qimir is def fascinating , crazy to think its basically just 2 more sith and they win but hes doesnt know that obvi, if they get to do a s2 I def want the Jedi plot out since its done and to focus on Sith teachings and the start of THE GRAND PLAN
@ZizouZico
@ZizouZico Ай бұрын
You may not have meant to, but you made very persuasive points about him being Ren. 😅
@michielvandersijs6257
@michielvandersijs6257 Ай бұрын
I think hes a Sith. Revealing him to be a Knight of Ren would fall flat on its face for most of the audience. They were mentioned once in Episode 7 and they had a few shots in episode 9, most of the Star Wars audience has no idea who they are or why they should care if he is. Thats only for people who are into the comics.
@Toonmagister
@Toonmagister Ай бұрын
I'm reminded of the interaction between Osha and May when they were children getting their hair braided and mention they are the only children. The two adults looked pointedly at each other. I think it was a clue that at least one other child, the Stranger, was being raised by them. The Jedi discovering him is what led to whatever happened between them and the witches.
@JoshieboyStudios
@JoshieboyStudios Ай бұрын
What if Qimir is a Sith apprentice who goes off to do his own thing, abandoning the Rule of Two to do his own thing (IE Knights of Ren)?
@MaxRamos8
@MaxRamos8 Ай бұрын
That jedi academy idea sounds like the perfect CW teenage drama show lol
@forrestpenrod2294
@forrestpenrod2294 Ай бұрын
Star Trek already beat them to the punch. Their next big show is Starfleet Academy and it comes out next year. Given how Skeleton Crew already kind of rips off Prodigy a Jedi Academy show would be a little too on the nose lol
@tomjmaxwell
@tomjmaxwell Ай бұрын
In the same way that telling people I’m from the general Denver area when I’m from 30 miles outside of Denver would not be the same as saying I was born and raised in Denver, Qimir saying “you might call me Sith” is not the same as “I’m Sith”.
@matheusfernandes2102
@matheusfernandes2102 Ай бұрын
I stand with Mollie, the KoR are just emo kids in star wars
@SailorDisco
@SailorDisco Ай бұрын
Molly always wears the best shirts!
@JR-kx3jr
@JR-kx3jr Ай бұрын
I’m not super knowledgeable about the Knights of Ren, but they don’t seem to be powerful or skilled force users, and they generally don’t use lightsabers. Even if Qimir is one, he probably had either Jedi or Sith training beforehand.
@forrestpenrod2294
@forrestpenrod2294 Ай бұрын
Yeah they definitely feel more like a band of mercenaries.
@DKhuluq
@DKhuluq Ай бұрын
Their leader before Kylo was called "Ren" and he used a lightsaber. He also wore the same basic get up as Qimir. He got his lightsaber, that they called "The Ren," the from the leader before him. So, I could see Qimir being the inspiration behind them and his lightsaber becoming the Ren.
@OnTheNerdySide
@OnTheNerdySide Ай бұрын
Love your channel! It's responsible for getting me deeper in the Star Wars fandom, since I've always been primarily a Trekkie, as you may notice from my pfp. May I offer one piece of directorial advice? When you introduce yourselves, you should look at your close-up camera instead of the wide shot camera, especially if you plan to cut to the close-up in the edit. Again, love the content! Thanks for all you guys do!!
@dandilling4738
@dandilling4738 Ай бұрын
They play it right when he says "what incredible beings we are"!
@darrenoleary5952
@darrenoleary5952 Ай бұрын
Q&A : In Ep6 of The Acolyte, Qimir tells Osha that he has been around for a long time. Although it was 16 years earlier, is he the hooded figure at the Ascension ceremony on Brendock?
@IssieAngela
@IssieAngela Ай бұрын
Guys, this discussion was next level! Thank you for bringing it every time and being such a beacon of light in the fandom
@googlewasouridea
@googlewasouridea Ай бұрын
I like the idea of a Knights of Ren connection. Like maybe he is rejected by his Sith master for revealing himself and then decides to start his own thing, the chaotic Ren's of the dark side.
@mrp1326
@mrp1326 Ай бұрын
Ki-Adi-Mundi will go to Qimir and say: "Listen, you need to drop this whole 'you can call me sith'-attitude. Just choose any other name, and we leave you alone. And I can be telling that sith are still extinct. Win-win arrengement." And that's how knights of Ren were created.
@ziggyspacedust7813
@ziggyspacedust7813 Ай бұрын
Maybe who/what Chimer is can be linked to the mythological hybrid creature, the Chimera comprised of different things and it's modern usage of impossible to achieve hopes or dreams...It seems to explain our questions about the what the character is and his objectives. I think it's a really good name for him.
@bipennate
@bipennate Ай бұрын
I realize that this would require some important canon rewriting, but I would love for the stranger to end up being Darth Plagueis. He's cunning, philosophical, a brilliant strategist and so, so powerful in the force already. It feels like a perfect fit in many ways except for the fact that he's not Muun. He could of course be the apprentice to Plagueis, and that works too, but I don't think that would be as satisfying.
@ziggyspacedust7813
@ziggyspacedust7813 Ай бұрын
Your t-shirts are so fabulous, Mollie. I love the bold, colourful ones with the big images😊
@BrianThibodeaux
@BrianThibodeaux Ай бұрын
Love you guys, thanks for all you do.
@BaneZannah
@BaneZannah Ай бұрын
Later episode, but Love the quote, “It is not what you lost. It’s what you’ve survived.”
@kevinmoore4845
@kevinmoore4845 Ай бұрын
I would like to see (that) Luke started several secret (smaller) academies in many locations. Rey discovers several of them, only to find that some of Luke's former students have strayed without Luke to guide them. Some students love having Rey continue their teaching, while others resent it.
@Jason-jo3te
@Jason-jo3te Ай бұрын
It has been insanely hot here in Georgia for sure! I always miss Colorado in the summer 😢
@mrp1326
@mrp1326 Ай бұрын
"If we don't meditate on the past... we are doomed to repeat it." said Sol to Jacky in ep. 1. Seems like they are not learning a thing about sith.
@elsamendes1
@elsamendes1 Ай бұрын
The music, the music!!! Kylo Ren's theme... the music is always important!
@piercebuckley7699
@piercebuckley7699 Ай бұрын
6:30 Jedi Academy finals week is probably held together by dozens of cups of Caf. I wonder how Jedi would handle the jitters?
@DDuffy143
@DDuffy143 29 күн бұрын
I would totally go to mosh eisley if it was just a week earlier! I need to get my classroom together that weekend 😭
@Robocopnik
@Robocopnik 9 күн бұрын
Ruffalo apparently actually understands storytelling, namely, the fact that SPOILERS DO NOT DIMINISH ENJOYMENT OF A WORK.
@Fedaygin
@Fedaygin Ай бұрын
10:35 This shrine is El Bueno 🙂
@korneliakecskemetinebakti2904
@korneliakecskemetinebakti2904 Ай бұрын
The Jedi definitely teach about the Sith. Ahsoka told Huyang she loved his many stories. She could also read some Sith runes in the Rebels show.
@jaricarlon9968
@jaricarlon9968 Ай бұрын
Q&A : who do you think Quimirs master is ? And his OTHER apprentice is it Darth Tenebrous
@jaricarlon9968
@jaricarlon9968 Ай бұрын
If he is indeed a sith
@_gelato.god_4265
@_gelato.god_4265 Ай бұрын
I don’t think he has a master at all, I think he’s just a solo Sith. Hopefully Tenebrous shows up to slaughter the remaining Jedi and him
@jaricarlon9968
@jaricarlon9968 Ай бұрын
​@@_gelato.god_4265 and ka adi Mundi seed Tenebrous but keeps it hidden with his quote a hundred years later the Sith have been extinct for over a melinia
@CenturionMan15
@CenturionMan15 Ай бұрын
I thought Mollie was going to say a Star Wars version of Abbott and Costello. Yes please lol
@markcohen7991
@markcohen7991 Ай бұрын
There was a hooded figure in the third episode disappearing when the Jedi arrived.
@christianotter0528
@christianotter0528 Ай бұрын
LOST. TWENTY. ANIMATED. SERIES. PLEASE GOD. One episode for each member throughout the history of the order. It would be so GOOD
@mishjone
@mishjone Ай бұрын
If you guys go back to episode 3 to the ceremony. You see two hooded figures that are not the witches. Check it out
@jamesmarquezdev
@jamesmarquezdev Ай бұрын
this was your most fun episode!!!😂
@alyandthecats691
@alyandthecats691 Ай бұрын
Now I’m thinking about Holocron Faires
@Stablemable2
@Stablemable2 Ай бұрын
I think the KOR are in the SW tradition of the power-baddies that will be fleshed out little by little in the series. Boba Fett gain popular similarly but he actually had dialogue and more fanfare with merchandising.
@winchesterinc.5643
@winchesterinc.5643 Ай бұрын
I wonder if Osha is the one who killed everyone during an episode of rage or something. She could have blacked out and doesn’t realize or suppressed it?
@Bas-TB
@Bas-TB Ай бұрын
I am rather musically challenged, I guess. Was the Kylo Ren theme played at the end when Qimir heals Osha? If so the clearest connection is that Kylo healed Rey.
@ralphgall8930
@ralphgall8930 Ай бұрын
Why do i get the feeling that smylo rens real mission is to break sols resolve?
@nickwilcox9760
@nickwilcox9760 Ай бұрын
The Knights of Ren motif also briefly plays during this episode during the fighting. That theme is from episode IX and is different from Kylo's motif
@TheMaxRebo
@TheMaxRebo Ай бұрын
Qimir is definitely aware of the Coven and knew about the girls and their power (dyad?) - I think he, or his master, was involved in the twins conception. Mother Coral says that the Jedi can't know about how they were conceived and think it was Qimir or his master (Plagueis?) using the Force to create them
@Hulavuta
@Hulavuta Ай бұрын
I'd be surprised if Bail Organa did not show up in Andor season 2. How can they really have the rebellion without him?
@erbylopez6003
@erbylopez6003 Ай бұрын
It makes sense to me that the Jedi wouldn’t teach about the Sith for fear that exposing younglings to anything about them may tempt some of them to dabble in the dark side.
@kejkraith8989
@kejkraith8989 Ай бұрын
Q&A: I've always heard explanations for lighhtsaber colors, like "Blue means you're good at combat and green means you're more connected to the force and yellow is a balance between the two." What source of lore do those explanations actually come from?
@mightheal
@mightheal Ай бұрын
The kotor video games mostly.
@kejkraith8989
@kejkraith8989 Ай бұрын
@@mightheal Ohhhh. Ok, that makes sense. Was the way I described it accurate to what they say in the games?
@mightheal
@mightheal Ай бұрын
@@kejkraith8989 Yeah pretty much.
@kejkraith8989
@kejkraith8989 Ай бұрын
​@@mightheal Alright, thanks👍
@mrundy9351
@mrundy9351 Ай бұрын
Thought on Qimir being the og knight of ren. In Aftermath we have "The Acolytes of the Beyond" which ended up being the Knights of Ren if I'm not mistaken.
@Falxifer95
@Falxifer95 Ай бұрын
I also think he's a Sith, either the Apprentice, or maybe, he's the Acolyte, tasked with proving his worth in order to become an Apprentice to a Sith Master we haven't seen. I don't think the repeated use of Kylo Ren's theme in the episode is by accident or just as a musical easter egg, but I also don't think they would add a backstory for the Knights of Ren in this season.
@Psub950
@Psub950 Ай бұрын
I have been hyperfixating on the Knights of Ren for a while now so i take any possible lore i can get
@jeffreydurbin2606
@jeffreydurbin2606 Ай бұрын
1066 AD: the Norman Invasion of England and the Battle of Hastings where a French-speaking Duke overthrew the sitting Anglo-Saxon King. Sorry to be that guy, but the only thing I love more than Star Wars is history in this galaxy. 🙂
@groge511
@groge511 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure it's Qimir climbing a wall on Brendok in the trailer. Flashback I'm sure and he witnesses what happened
@Maphisto86
@Maphisto86 Ай бұрын
I can imagine that in the thousand years between the last defeat of the ancient Sith and the prequels, the Jedi encountered many dark siders, including fallen Jedi and pretenders to the Sith tradition. Yet, on the whole, these dark siders were few and far between. That lends much more credence to why the Jedi Council, in the prequel era, were incredulous at the thought of genuine Sith still existing.
@christianbeach8975
@christianbeach8975 Ай бұрын
Kylo Ren theme also plays earlier and episode four or five in the forest but it’s focused on OSHA. I think Kylo Ren‘s theme is about OSHA maybe linking OSHA and may to be a dyad in the force
@vahlte
@vahlte Ай бұрын
I feel like Darth Manny (Qimir) may be what Darth Venamis was in Legends, the up and coming secret (preferred) challenger to Darth Plagueis by Darth Tenebrous. In Legends Tenebrous was a bith, and Venamis was essentially his "son" by bith reproductive methods. To have a familial link between Qimir and what is possibly Tenebrous, Tenebrous kinda has to be human or near human in canon, something which would be possible given that we don't know much about Tenebrous there yet.
@ariesstorm9577
@ariesstorm9577 Ай бұрын
Q&A: are we going to be getting a season 2 of the Acolyte? If so, could season one lead up to introducing the reigning Dark Lord of the Sith (if it isn’t Qimir, of course) and season two will transition from Mae and Osha’s story to Qimir and the Sith? I did wonder if Qimir is Sol’s sibling and the last thing he remembers is Sol being taken away by the Jedi leaving Qimir feeling abandoned, sort of like that SWTOR trailer where a Jedi only takes one of two siblings away to be trained and the one left behind had a terrible time growing up. The way Qimir says “you don’t remember me, do you?” It just sounds like he’s talking about more than their brief encounter in the second episode. Maybe it is, maybe I’m reading into it too much. But I am absolutely loving the theories and it’s been a nice distraction from all the hate the show has been getting.
@kaikasshu
@kaikasshu Ай бұрын
I like your content! I also live in Georgia, near Atlanta.
@JROTCBALL
@JROTCBALL Ай бұрын
If they stick the landing I also think the Acolyte might be my fav live action Disney plus show! Andor is still up there, but I definitely did miss seeing aliens on it
@SheldonDes
@SheldonDes Ай бұрын
So I think what might be happening is that the witches of Brendock were creating witches and so anytime they created a male who could not be a witch they were being sacrificed but Quimir’s master kidnapped before he could be sacrificed.
@OrionInSpace
@OrionInSpace Ай бұрын
She mentioned how she was speaking with Filoni and Lucas as well
@markeuslynell
@markeuslynell Ай бұрын
The dopey knights we know are over 100 years removed. So I could see him being the first Ren. I think he has a master but wants an acolyte so that they can go off and do their own thing . The own thing could end up diluting into the knights Mae asks him how he knows the “the master” and he got all weird and says “you know HE collects people” …. I think this means he either collects apprentices , or he feels collected
@mickaelbalta1050
@mickaelbalta1050 Ай бұрын
I hope someone sees this but while it is extremely similar to Kylo's theme, that motif has been in the series since episode 1 as it's the main theme of the series! Listen to all the title cards, they all play a variant of this same theme!
@levineely3312
@levineely3312 Ай бұрын
In 1124 CE, David I was crowned King of the Scots. I would definitely be confused if he showed up with a broadsword telling me that I might call him Lord of the Scots.
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