Remember when PoC had little stories for the characters? Those were sweet. Could we at least get those back?

Its weird to see murderer and the victim in the one room

Don't ruin this legendary game ,we love it , Runeterra helped so many people in hard times ,Hope the game will live as long as possible 🙏

"We love building decks. That's why we're focusing on the mode that doesn't allow you to do that at all"

all i learned from this is that lissandra is coming to PoC as a boss battle and they're increasing the champion stars in PoC from 3 to six

why is the tone so similar to that of a funeral :(

Legends of Runeterra is an amazing game. As a (now former) Hearthstone player, It was amazing to see the announcement of the game and then later play the beta. The game single-handedly made me quit HS which I had spent years and a lot of money on, and It even got me interested in the world and lore of Runeterra, so much so that I started playing League shortly after, and I still play regularly to this day. LoR will always hold a special place in my heart, and I hope it never goes away completely. It's bittersweet, but I'm excited to see what the future holds for the best f2p card game ever made. Thank you for everything!

Am i the only one that feels this update didnt tell us much new? They could have gone into more detail specifically about whats happening to PvP with balance patches, rotations, champs ECT

Well with LoR pvp not just being sidelined but looks to not be receiving any updates past the next card set I want to say thank you to the wonderful devs that worked on this game for the past 4 years. This game was truly something amazing and how it defied CCG norms in an amazing way. Sad to say, but since I'm not a PvE player this is my goodbye to LoR. The game that truly deserved better.

As much it pains me to see Riot only doing this after the lay offs and the long lack of attention for the game, I like seeing you guys giving your all, I hope the game manages to become better, a dark year wait for Riot ahead this year. But I sure you guys at LoR team will give your best shot as always.

It was very interesting seeing Eric and Marc talking about LOR mechanics like portals and laughing because they love the game and play the game, and then seeing Andrei and Dave sitting there stone faced, quickly moving on to talking about Arcane. This interview makes it appear that the higher ups hate the game. This video has the same vibes as a parent teacher conference

i thought that they would announce this was the entire dev team

I played PoC for the rewards.. i didnt think my hours in it would kill my favorite aspect of it...the pvp....thanks i guess

日本語要約 ・左からLeagueスタジオのリーダー、ライアット共同創業者、バトンを渡す旧プロデューサー、バトンを受け取る新プロデューサー ・ルーンテラは当初カードを集めていろんなデッキを試す楽しさを内包したデッキビルディングによるビジネスモデルを作りたかった (十分なカードを集めるのに何万円もつぎ込む必要性は求めていなかった) ・でも、収益以上の出資が続き、他の製品に助けてもらうことで持続する状態だった ・結果として持続可能になるために、大きな変化が必要と言う結論に至った ・まもなくリリースされるセットが最後のセットになるが、チャンピオンのリリースをやめるわけではない(それぞれの旅路に焦点を移す) ・スタンダードランクよりも旅路の方が遊んでいる人が多いので開発のリソースを旅路に集中させる ・新マップとしてフレヨルドとボスのリサンドラを追加するよ ・コンスタレイション(仮称)という、チャンピオンのスターパワーが最大3つから6つに増えた旅路の新モード？も実装予定 ・概要欄にFAQもあるから合わせて見てね。 ・今後もLoRと一緒に旅をしていきましょう！

I wish riot had some huge established games, maybe like some of the biggest games in the world. If they had that they could have advertised LoR on them, but alas, small indie company.

"the changes" narrator: he's referring to the hundreds of sudden layoffs

LoR mentioned!

If the focus is going to be on Path, they should give us a custom deck-building option. Zoe and Norra are perfect for the mode, glad to hear Norra's otw. Zoe needs to be in there too

Path of Champions is played more because its easier to gain experience towards chests. Why would I play PVP matches where i can lose and get 100xp when i can get 200xp from winning path of champions garaunteed. You guys are looking at data without understanding the why. PVP would be more popular or played more if you elevated the experience gained from matches. Not only that, but during expansions and their quests, its 1000x easier to finish quests in POC and vs AI than against other players. I honestly think you guys are focusing more on PVE not because of higher play rates, but because its way easier to monetize. I totally get that, but id rather you guys just came out and said "Yeah we're losing tons of money. So we're focusing on POC to make more money and keep the game afloat." My only question would then be "Once the game is making more money, are you gonna go back to focusing on PVP or are you strictly staying PVE?"

the only change I need for PvP is to reduce each player's time during turns

i play mostly pve, but i care more about pvp and watch much more lor pvp content than i play any game. my interest in the game is probably going to dwindle fast if my favorite content creators leave because of the pvp drought.

The years I've spent playing Runeterra were some of the best of my life. I hit Masters many times, competed against the best in the world and joined a fantastic community. I played every day in 2022 and until August 2023. It's sad to see it end and I'll miss it for a long time

Hearing you guys say you did everything you could to grow the game feels disingenuous when I get slammed with ads for all of Riots other games but never once saw an ad for LoR

This scares me. Not the fact that they are focusing on pve but the way they are doing it and how they are presenting it. I have a few resons losted below. 1. The original people who were the faces of the game aren't here anymore. I know its due to the people getting laid off but they could have at least mentioned them and told us that it was they who pushed for the game to be made. 2. The focus on pve. This could be fine, but all we got on info for this was Lissandra coming as the Freljord boss (finally), that they're giving every champion 6 stars instead of 3, and that they are adding champions to the mode but the only champs they mentioned of adding was Aatrox and Norra who were already apart of PoC. 3. Why were Meddler and Tryndamere there? This is basically saying that either a) they lost basically every other person who was connecting with the LoR community and they needed to be there for moral support or b) they were there just to make sure they couldn't talk with the players in earnest like the LoR team always has. 4. This felt too staged. It felt like a distraction from the actual problem that both LoR and its community is facing. Its like trying to hide the fact that your uncle has cancer and is dying in the next 3 months with him feigning feeling fine even though you can see something clearly wrong with him. 5. There was no discussion about monetization. Everyone kniws that LoR isnt making money. And there have been multiple people giving suggestions for what they would like to spend money on besides just the cards. Better cosmetics, animated cards, more boards, more companions, getting the ability to buy chests outright, allowing everyone to have access to all the cards when a new set comes out, and thise are just what i can name off the top of my head. The fact they didnt talk about that at all, means that they intend to not help the game which is what i would expect they would do since two of the people who are the faces and have control over riot games were in this video to talk about the future of LoR. 6. This didnt feel like an update more like burial. The game is going on "maintenance mode" meaning they basically have no freedom to do anything but what the big wigs tell them to do, and the whole vibe of this just felt like soneone lying directly to my face. Personally, this feels like they are just saying "There is no one else here, we still want to support the game but we arent going to support it anymore.

This reminds me of what happened with Orcs Must Die Unchained. Started with PVP which everyone loved, shifted to PVE losing all existing players and not gaining new ones, and then got killed. IMO the player base simply doesn't tend to transfer in this situation. PVP and PVE players are different.

Please be good news, please be good news

Rip Rubin 😢

Twas fun while it lasted, very fun even, one of the few times I've been genuinely impacted by a game burning down, I'll post my experiences here for posterity. Got to know the game through a magic youtuber around 4 years back, loved every single thing about the game, spent an embarrassing amount of time in my early days just staring at the art. When it came to competitive, the game had everything a gamer could want, and the combination of the voice acting + visuals could keep you hooked even during a slog of a match, the complexity of the game was a turnoff for plenty of folk, I quite enjoyed the mindgames and subgames any given match of LoR could produce between different archetypes, and learning these gamestates your deck can produce against other contenders was dope. loved playing Shen/Fiora at its prime, strong, consistent and robust with an honest gameplan that diverged from the pure bannerman Demacia decks at the time. My first masters grind was one of the most rewarding experiences In my gaming career, staying sharp in a game as intense as LoR for 6 hours straight for 3 days each is tough, but when I finally did, I went for a 2 hour walk just running through the diamond games in my head, just processing the face that I was here. In the end tho, I don't really have nearly as much to say as I thought I did, I've lost a hobby, I've lost a community and I've lost watching Alan play spooky Karma, I'll miss ya'll, cya

As a poc player getting new champions is always cool.Idk about the 6 stars though since you can already be incredibly strong with just 3. 6 just sounds like extreme overkill (ofc this is without knowing anything about them), especially when you consider that what's missing the most is where you can use these champions. A new big bad was long overdue..I just hope that we get more adventures in the future. Hope the game stays alive just for a little while longer

Of all your games, I only play Legends of Runterra (mainly PVP) аnd in general this is the best game of all existing in the world! Please, I beg you, don't let the game die... 😭😭😭

Think I spent around 200/300 euros on this game, but never played path of champions...

Riot is LoR's biggest enemy

I will probably stay with this game for the next few months and play around with the next set for a while, but once the support for the PvP side of the game starts going down noticably, I'll finally lay my deck down for the last time. While I had some critiques about some decisions they did (or rather didn't in most cases), LoR was still the most enjoyable CCG experience I've ever had. I'll always look back fondly at what Riot achieved in this beautiful game and wish the best of luck for their restructuring of the game. Thank you for many hours upon hours of ejnoyment. Sincerely, a player since the beta.

As part of the minotiry of exclusively PVP players that hasn't played much in the last months, this is what it would need to happen for me to get interested in PVE and Path of Champions.: -A greater focus on the narrative. Early PoC experiences had mini-stories of champions like Jinx and Jayce as you played along the different sections. I got into LoR because I was interested on the lore and characters of Runeterra. So if we aren't getting more big card packs telling bits and pieces of a narrative, it would be nice to at least see more elaborated ones on PoC. -A greater control over how to build your decks on PoC. Many times your options as you build along are very limited, and if you get only bad on uninteresting options, bad luck. The deckbuilding there is practically non-existant. LoR is one of the games I have dedicated the most hours too, and it would be a shame to see it simply go by the wayside.

Probably the best they can do with what they still have left. Sad that it had to come to this but as a Path of Champions enjoyer I can't lie, I'm pretty excited for the Constellations stuff ❤

Lor pvp is my fav game for so many years now i cant belive whats happening

As someone who only cares about PoC, I'm sorry for those who liked the PvP, but I'm happy with where the game is going.

Ngl I reckon a shifting of resources to path of champions near exclusively is a huge, huge mistake. All you needed to do was add more things for us to purchase and even change the acquisition model to be a bit less generous if need be. There simply isn't enough in path of champions to support the game if the standard PvP mode dries up

Aurelion Sol was released as the potentially strongest champ with 4 star powers and now we are getting all champs going up to 6 stars ..... The grind never ends .....

Please bring back our CINEMATIC TRAILER FOR EXPANSION 😢 PLEASE 😢, WE LOVE YOU ALL

Makes sense. I'm here for it. When I experienced Path of Champions for the first time, it reminded me of MtG's Shandalar + Roguelike card builder games (ex. Slay the Spire). I knew it would be a popular mode but I never expected it to be the EDH of LoR (i.e. more popular than the standard pvp mode)

More about the FAQ article, but I’d like to say the main reason I love the game is that F2P friendly aspect of it. It really deviates from the standard CCG with card acquisition and you can realistically get everything, in reasonable time, just by playing the game. To understand that is part of the thing that makes the game unsustainable is a hard pill to swallow. I truly hope this bet on PVE pays off, just so I can see the original ideal of an actual non-predatory card game survive.

That's all, folks! It's been a nice ride

I quit.

I pretty much exclusively play PoC but that is only because there isn't a draft mode. I used to play the old draft mode they had before it was scrapped. Still waiting for a PvP draft mode to make its way back to the game

In LoL, the most played mode wasn't ARAM?! PoC is the ARAM of LoR That doesn't mean the guys from LoL focus on ARAM It seems more like the guys don't know what to do to fix the game and insist on not using suggestions from those who consume the game like that superb "200 years of development" Casual mode will ALWAYS have more players than ranked mode but who am I, I've never worked with it, I just really hope that the game continues in its best shape and doesn't end

When will android version have 60 fps?

This is devastating to hear. When MTG started turning to collaborations because of the money hunger execs and Hearthstone started to get overrun by bots and plagued by Blizzard's awful practices, LoR was there for me and became my absolute favorite CCG, not even a little contested. Id get even more excited for LoR expansions that i would for a new league champ release. Literally no one does it like you guys.

These guys have some some serious chops nailing all the points on the teleprompter, while having their hands superglued to their knees.

Man i just want fiddlesticks in LoR... He has so much potential!!

Disappointed to see CEO man in a disscussion that could have been lively without the manipulation

"We tried a lot of things to try and grow the audience". My brother in christ the new player experience was literally broken for two years. Most tutorials didnt even work. Obviously doing nothing didn't work.

everything good comes to an end, But glad they are not abandoning the game all together. No matter what the future holds, Lor will have a special place in my heart and Ill continue being a casual pvp and pve player.

“Get excited” yeah okay.

Add Ixtal and the Void.

I WANT the Riot finally develop the in-game interface for "listening to the community": there should be some kind of "workshop" where any player can develop their own cards, saving them, listing them to everyone in a hope of getting enough upvotes from other players. Periodically, the developers will be taking, for example, top 5 most upvotes cards from that workshop to use them as a reference for the future cards. Also, the workshop will have the functionality to "modify" the existing cards by needing, buffing, or reworking it's effect, and these modifications will be listed in a separate pool of cards in that workshop. The top 5 of the most upvotes changes will be applied. Of course, there should be also minimum amount of upvotes required for the change or card idea for this to be triggered. This may be 500, for example. What ya say, isn't my idea precious 💕?

The only issue i currently have with the amazing gamemode that is PoC is that its urging me to upgrade the star power of my champs when Ive happen to have all the shards for it. But sometimes, I dont want to level them up and instead keep the increased difficulty of the runs with them. If there was a way to mute the levelup-notification or play games with reduced star power even after leveling up, that would be great.

I love Path of the champion. I understand that building your own deck is a fun part of CCGs but I did that in MtG, yugioh and force of will for many years now and I am tired, I now leave the deckbuilding to others and then just "netdeck" the "best" deck that fits my playstyle. therefore the roguelite nature of PotC feels amazing to me because I can't always have the cards or powers that I want so I have to be flexible and adjust the way I play on the fly. even the same adventure with the same champion and the same Items can feel totally different with different powers and cards and another partner champion.

I regret playing tPoC when bored of certain metas, because it enabled the mindset they seem to have adopted, that people WANT more tPoC. That's not what most of us want. We just want to be able to play our favorite decks and for there to be better balance between them. I love playing wacky combos like Kalista printing funny units like Maduli, or Master Yi multiattack with Scout/Cataclysm/Tumble. But these decks usually pale in comparison to more tuned and newer (Read: power creep) decks. So when I get tired of being beaten by GEM, or Lulu/Jinx, or Liss/Trundle, numerous times in a row, I'd spend more time playing tPoC waiting for balance changes. Not because I enjoy tPoC more, but because I enjoy LoR and am just waiting for the next balance patch or set to hopefully give new tools to my favorite decks to help them compete. The devs see this as "let's focus on tPoC, PvP is dead" RIP LoR.

I hope all of the people behind this decision decide to keep themselves safe.

Thank you so much for producing such a fantastic game, and I hope it continues to prosper in the future.

RIP Legends of Runeterra

So after waiting a little over a week for a brief explanation of what might be the future of the game, we got 7 minutes of which 3.4 are explainning to us what is LoR, that the new lead is a marketing mobile games dude who most likely is a big shareholder and 1 minute of summarizing a patchnote. Let's be honest, the game is dead, no new cards, cosmetics, art or lore, just make new levels for a gamemode and, of course, add more grind so maybe we don't notice the lack of content if we are too busy going 25 hours of garen just to get a new star, sounds fun am I right? From several important questions to none being answered directly, instead we can go and read the post they made (and did not mention it in the video btw) which the same corporate PR talk is used to ease the damned answer "we have no answer, we will figure it out" LoR is pvp, no matter how much they want to push it to us, even as a great gamemode, the PoC is just a gamemode. PvP is what was assuring the new cards, balances, mechanics and meta we all like, the innovation and the feel of drafting something to suit you will just vanish with time after we realize the 3 or 4 strats to beat the big bad of the new PoC map. What do we do after all champs have been added? (besides the ones still lacking enough cards for them)... 9 stars I guess?...

Why the game does not take the whole screen in the phone ???

"we tried a lot of things to get new players", lmao, literally name ONE.

I do wonder if they're going to reduce the grind as well since for me who has been grinding for a long time i almost have all star levels but for new players it's gonna be so difficult to get all champs to 3 stars especially 6 stars

One thing I'm curious about, can the players of PoC expect some amount of animations on cards to be added at *some* point in the future? Mostly curious because with the flow of newer cards slowing, and with most of us seeing similar things in our PoC runs, I would think it's not an unrealistic thing to wonder about.

I am really sad because I was only playing Ranked and had so much fun with it, but atleast this beautiful game isn't killed. Thank you for everything ❤️

this game helped me through the covid

They said they tried a lot of things but they tried nothing lmao. How about actually advertising the game in any capacity.

LOR and Riot Forge games got 0 advertisement and then you guys wonder why they flopped. I haven't played any of the RF games (and it took me awhile to even notice they existed) but LOR is easily the best and most beginner/customer-friendly tcg in the market right now, yet with every exciting new expansion it got, it kept losing funds because you did not capitalize on it at all. It was simply left to die in the cold while there could have been even a small ad window in the league client to remind people that the game even exists. Take for example hearthstone, which had turbo ads all over the place every time it got an update and Blizzard even payed youtubers to play their card game and generate traction around it. Meanwhile TFT had the privilege to even be launched through league client and get ads on it, while it's a game that could have easily had a very similar playerbase due to the strategic turn-based nature of the games. Community kept asking for ways to spend money and there where very few meaningful ones. I guess their whole point was to expand the league universe rather than stand on their own as separate games which is a shame. One of the most dedicated communities I've seen, with great potential to grow bigger than any tcg has just gone wasted. LOR and Riot forge weren't "failures" you just didn't care (as a company, not the devs which surely were passionate) enough to make them profitable.

Yall need to refund the people who have already spent money on the PVP aspect of this game. Riot has NO IDEA what they are doing anymore

Oh thank god, the game's not dead

I just wanna know if we'll be getting new cards?

どのような形であれ、楽しんで続けていくつもり。好きなゲームなので。

Bring a mode inside poc that allow you to make a deck with powers from different champions. Will be the best for those that come from pvp and still want the crafting.

So no news on what will happen to PVP. Ridiculous

I am VERY excited for the path of chamions update but its kinda bittersweet since new stuff for pvp will be slowing down

I really hope the publisher opens the Ixtal land.

I've been here since the early beta, I've been a believer in the game for so long. I hate card packs and it's a sobering and depressing reality that your business model fighting against that repressive standard has ultimately failed. You guys need to make money and you deserve to make a living, you're so good at what you do. I tried, I bought every event pass, I am sorry it wasn't enough. Thank you for giving us this incredible game and trying to do something new. I'll be around in PoC and continue to support the game and I hope you guys are able to find the monetary success you've been missing because you deserve it.

When you kill competitive you kill the game etc. hearthstone

😢 you guys save lol, wr, and tft but LoR ???

I kind of feel like they didn’t even try that many things for monetizing the game Sad to see it come to this without that much visible effort to safe it Please just give us ways to spend our money on your game Riot

To give you a counter narrative to PoC, what I'd love from this game is a social hub where I can find and communicate with fellow players and play with them organically. Many 2d fighting games do this by letting you move about a hub as a chibi character, chatting, reacting and playing games on stations. A dream scenario would be the ability to walk around in a Zaun-like hub as a Teemo chibi character and be able to challenge opponents to a duel after making a ridiculous sticker motion at them. I can only imagine this is what other players would want too, it would set this game apart from any other card game in the market for sure, even if I can't imagine it would be feasible given the state of things. Another thing I'd love is a drafting mode where deck building and exploration is a key component of the progression. One reason why PoC is so succesful I fell is because it almost does this. The only thing missing there is the pvp aspect. One "problem" with normal pvp is the overall solved meta decks you might meet if you're a more casual player, drafting would do a lot of things to alleviate this and make the gameplay less about what you bring in of pre-analysis and more what you can do on the fly. Another "problem" that pvp has that PoC solves for the casual player is the progression aspect. Every pvp game is essentially a reset, even if you gain in rank, wheras PoC has a deeper and more visible progression model. I feel like a drafting mode can utilise the same mechanisms PoC does to utilise the strengths of both PoC gameplay and pvp. PoC is great, it's an amazing experience to go through, but I fear that you might be putting to much emphasis on buffing a car that is already shiny, new and had its oil changed. What I'm saying is, be careful of putting too much faith in PoC as the mainstay of LoR as a game. I comlpetely respect the willingness to pivot and apply energy in where the players are at, but it's equally important to see why those players are there and to what degree that will last in the future.

i think poc was so popular because it was a great tool for grinding cards to use in pvp

i think players play poc not because they like it but because they wanna collect cards by completing daily missions and daily bonus win

I didn't quite understand about the champions bit.They are gonna release 20 of the already existing ones on poc and increase the stars from 3 to 6... but will all the other 55 or so champions from league gonna appear in the game overall (like Brand, Rengar, Camile, Kassadin, Kog maw, Corki etc) and will there be new regions appearing outside of poc (like Ixtal, Icathia and Camavor). Anyway, sad news overall, i really love this game and its lore expansion on Runeterra... It's disheartening to see it slow down when predatory monetisation models like hearthstone and Marvel snap keep going.

Only played PVP, and the people i know from PoC only played for rewards. Actually i went out of resources and the logic thing to do was to also play PoC in order to refill them and do more decks (but i enjoyed more playing 1/2 decks in PVP then losing time to do more decks in PoC). Looking at statistics is good, as i work with statistics daily, but I think Riot lacks understanding of these numbers.

A la cuenta de tres voy a llorar :c

COPIUM COPIUM

LOR Devs just remember all you had to do to have massive success was give packs after matches in league client... everybody would have packs now just like they have TFT stuff...

Loved this game so much its sad seeing it go away like that , it was a good ride

yea lor is dead, people like PvE but its a CARD GAME ... pls focus on the PVP CARD GAME...

You NEED to make money from this game to keep running it up. I know, you had a player based approach but this kinda kills the economy of the game. In other card games, getting new cards is amazing. you feel good for unlucking the card you wanted for a while. But in runeterra, its kinda boring tbh. Players have a lot of resources, they can the every single new card in a expension. And it becomes boring rather than excited. So, PLEASE fix this riot, we dont want to see this game dying. This is my first and favorite card game but its economy should be fixed.

Text size on mobile is too small. It is an issue since the release. Please fix it. You can look Hearthstone’s ui for example.

Imagine not polishing PoC and charging for it and then complaining the game doesn't make any money when the area that has more players in it isn't monetized. Back to MTGA we go.

Marc and Dave deserve whatever phreak got through x100 times yeah

Lissandra is SOOOO easy to beat. Alredy beat her with 3 drifferent 3 start champs, then got bored.

Thanks for letting us know. I'm sceptical after the epic relics and the Emporium. The grind was a bit over tuned imo. And I'm afraid that this trend will continue with the 6 star champs

Yeaaah... I did sink a LOT of time in TPoC. Unfortunately, that's the only thing your data tells you. Why I was playing that? Because it's an easy way to farm daily quests and Pass progression. Was I having fun? Nah. It's quite a mediocre mode until you reach the higher level stuff, which winning still didn't give as much satisfaction as losing to them made you frustrated. Also, great FAQ, tons of questions... important questions. It was just lacking one thing. Answers. Let's see how the shift and refocus does and if you're all still standing on both feet in 6 months. I am a dirty casual, ball of anxiety of a player... but getting through it and getting good wins on PvP? That felt better than anytime I won against A.Sol on TPoC. Good luck y'all.