Even the great Snnuy is not that shiny after these news... We truly live in a dark times now
@Zetsubou-694206 ай бұрын
man the streaming/youtube community is almost dead now isnt it? I know snnuy said he will try POC but i dont think that would last very long
@Anegor6 ай бұрын
@@Zetsubou-69420 Snnuy plays a lot of PoC, he loves it. Sadly, PoC is not as fun to watch in terms of streaming as pvp, so it's not very good for money incoming for creators
@Zetsubou-694206 ай бұрын
@@Anegor I meant everyday, he posts everyday and he even said in his last stream that it might be weird to do POC everyday
@DanteMustLearn6 ай бұрын
pretty much all of the big namesare leaving it's sad times
@allenwalker47036 ай бұрын
I am a genshin/gacha player, but still watching lor become a pve gacha has to be the darkest timeline
@uwhzhwksbzis41796 ай бұрын
Foe me LOR was the first CCG I was heavily invested in,.I still remember the first day I booted it up, It was a magical journey to build all the fun decks around my beloved Undying and try to make it work. I was not delusional, I knew that the LOR as I have played it is basically in deathbed. But.... it still hurts.
@Plight_6 ай бұрын
We still got another year to make it count
@mantraki6 ай бұрын
Year?, he have this expansion and it's over.@@Plight_
@yauma10986 ай бұрын
Silco may not be a character that fits the Summoner's Rift, but Legends of Runeterra? As a final boss of an Arcane themed Path of Champions? Unfortunately he won't be around much in season 2
@ehrman94786 ай бұрын
Silco died didnt he
@ph1lny36 ай бұрын
@@ehrman9478 It's highly speculated that he becomes Warwick, and based on the body hanging over Singed in the S2 Arcane teaser, it looks like Riot is at the very least nodding that this is a plausible theory that Silco gets reincarnated.
@mightyphantom21766 ай бұрын
@@ph1lny3no it is not speculated that silco becomes Warwick that is vander your thinking of
@DrNiradino6 ай бұрын
Silco was in development though. In fact, Renata took his place for one reason or another. And with her moveset, I can see him being part of a League.
@ehrman94786 ай бұрын
@@ph1lny3 Didnt Warwick was shown before Silco died?
@SeanBoyce-gp6 ай бұрын
Reading between the lines a little bit - there's a huge technical challenge with LoR that's hard to even encapsulate. It was their first cross-platform game, their first mobile game, and the only League IP game they've ever made that doesn't utilize existing assets. It has a bespoke client, a bespoke engine, a bespoke monetization policy, and it has and has had to enact all three of those challenges on three platforms - iOS, Android, and PC - which are wildly different in architecture, enforcement, and standardization. They were counting on their core business model working, and they tried to let it solidify for a long time. When it didn't, it created a crisis - do we revamp the core business model to work? If so, how much money will it cost to rewrite the game to work that way? How will we translate existing investments? How long will it take to implement? How much money will we lose while we rewrite it? How many ways can we explore wiring in new monetization options into its current context, and, how likely are they to succeed? It sucks, but it seems like the game they made - the client, the core interactions, everything - wasn't robust enough to handle incremental changes to its monetary policy, which is the entire reason Path of Champions exists. It's functionally a separate game, it even launches into something that feels like a different client. In this new space, they can iterate and explore and experiment without corrupting or modifying anything extant in the old space. I can think of 30 or 40 ways they can monetize existing stuff in LoR by reusing content PoC, and most of them aren't even predatory or shitty. Just a shame that there's no way forward for the core PvP game, which was such a blast to consume as a viewer. I mean, I spent hundreds of hours watching LoR creators, who are some of the best online people.
@adelmosallami6 ай бұрын
There's an interview with Eric Shen from the video, and what you said is on point. The problem, though, is that "LoR is very memory intensive". It was their excuse for not even having stuff like animated card backs, fancier borders, or animated skins. When asked about skins for non-champions, the reply was that "skins are coded for champions and cards that are directly related to them." I'm not a coder or game developer, but it doesn't add up to me, so it sounds like there was way too much tech debt that was never properly addressed. There was also other stuff that was alluded to, process wise. It just sounded like the entire creative process was incredibly slow and inefficient.
@durttheelder40356 ай бұрын
I think opening some ideas to the public for different pvp options could really help pvp Magic The Gathering survives off of people making new modes that wizards hasn't ruined yet and didn't make themselves (plus collecting now I guess and draft)
@AshBlossomWorshiper6 ай бұрын
3:42 to put some numbers on "vast majority" There was a point in time where 80% of the players were playing PoC over every other gamemode in runterra combined
@Urzarel6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be too surprised if that number came during one of the lingering dead metas.
@Kelorel6 ай бұрын
Yeah I never played the PVP mode on LoR because of how absolutely frustrating it was going against players and the wealth of absolutely irritating dog shit decks everyone was using because of how effective they were. PvE mode was always the go to for me because it let me have fun with the cards and the decks I could play around with.
@LeemonIsOnYutub6 ай бұрын
Yeah, you know it's bad when people talk more about the cards art than the actual game.
@dungeondice23316 ай бұрын
genuine question, does that number represent the players that only play PoC, or does it include players that play both PvP and PoC?
@AshBlossomWorshiper6 ай бұрын
@@dungeondice2331 includes both pvp and poc players
@manueldelgado97776 ай бұрын
I have been saying for years that the Riot MMO should have the option to play Legends of Runeterra with NPCs and other characters, similar to how you can challenge NPCs to a game of Gwent in The Witcher 3. This would keep the game alive and fulfill their goal to connect their games imo
@phonybolony41536 ай бұрын
It would also add a crazy deep minigame/collection game within the mmo
@Roxar966 ай бұрын
It exists in The Elder Scrolls Online, just like WoW has pokemon battles lol 😊 I love those kind of side gameplays in an MMO. I hope they'll do that (and we could link our accounts) but it is rather unlikely to happen 😅
@aviowl5 ай бұрын
@@phonybolony4153every enemy has a 1% chance to drop a card harder enemies drop rarer cards
@reformer10734 ай бұрын
Buddy, by the time the MMO comes out, LoR might as well be dead. I don't know how long Path of Champions can keep Legends of Runeterra afloat for, but there's absolutely no way the MMO is ready to be released or whether the devs can even incorporate LoR as a game mode into the darn MMO.
@AppleBaron6 ай бұрын
I will play this game even if I am the last player
@moatezmoussi97516 ай бұрын
me and you brother
@amendoim1736 ай бұрын
y’all won’t wait much longer 😂
@user-lh6eo4kr2p6 ай бұрын
I just hit masters after playing for 6 months I had no clue it’s going :/
@randomnumbers842696 ай бұрын
Just started playing a week ago. Seems like a great game. Wish I started earlier.
@user-gs4th6qp9p6 ай бұрын
If they really mean what they say then using LOR to continue building their world and characters is the right thing to do....LOR isn't going to make them a bunch of money but it's influence on the IP is huge and I hope they see that...I've never played LOR but I do love the lore ... Arcane brought me in... Ruined King showed me other places beyond Piltover n Zahun. Now I'm facing a wall because I've caught up on the lore and I truly hope Riot understands what a magical gift they made for us and how fragile it can be ...I'm walking proof that there market tactics work I just hope it all ain't to just be able to sell more Lux skins
@BlaxeFrost-X6 ай бұрын
I guess it's because of the LoRe that it's keeps going (sorry, i had to)
@lordheadass83106 ай бұрын
I think you really underestimate how heavy Lor is taming tools on company in a business perspective. It's not just that they didn't make enough money, it's they only make a fraction of the cost since day 1. And this game is not the only money sink Riot has. Forge is always guarantee loss no matterr what game they make. Multiple projects for the same league ip in the pipeline that draining resouces without contributing anything to the ip. Arcane as much as of a success it was, wouldn't be that projitable given that the project took many year in the making while most people can watch it free on twitch. Even the Esport sence has always been a money sink. They are all losses in service of keeping LoL relevant on the internet sphere, and out of all of them, forge and lor just did the worse. But you can clearly see people at riot still love the game and want to keep it "alive". If it was any company on earth, this game wouldn't have been made in the 1st place.
@user-gs4th6qp9p6 ай бұрын
It's crazy because idk why they made LOR free to play...they have the right ideal using multiple forms of media to boost LOL but it seems the fundamental problem is they are using all the other media to prop up and support LOL ..Each different form they create needs to be self sufficient and sustainable not used to fund and support through their main IP
@lordheadass83106 ай бұрын
@@user-gs4th6qp9p they said it themself they were too ambitious. They thought they could pulled the player friendly model off like how they did with league or valorant but they failed.
@user-gs4th6qp9p6 ай бұрын
It's sad because Arcane brought me to Riot products ...It got me invested into Runterra which lead to buying the Ruined King game and to playing WR and learning to play Lol ...So the fundamental ideal works now they need to use these tools they have bring in more like me(I'm invested in the world without even really caring about the games at all) and to retain their core consumers
@RaiuWorren6 ай бұрын
Atrox is already in PoC, I assume he will be one of the 20 champions who will move from 3 to 6 stars
@Firesti6 ай бұрын
I think they're talking about enemy encounters. So that they're talking about making Aatrox and Norra as enemies in PoC.
@AppleBaron6 ай бұрын
Correct
@MsElViktor6 ай бұрын
@@Firesti so the new 20 champions are bosses and not champions that we can play with new decks ? Kinda dissapointed
@Firesti6 ай бұрын
@@MsElViktor It is unclearly phrased, IMO. Personally, I don't see how the Aatrox line would get into this video and stay there through all of production with noone pointing out that Aatrox was already playable. My assumption would be that the 20 new champions are going to be playable, but Aatrox and Norra (plus some others, presumably) will also be new bosses/paths.
@Nope-ln4yj6 ай бұрын
With all these constellation/more progress, I really just hope for a really replayable adventure, just a way of setting ur own difficulty like with hades, more randomized fights like the monthly challenge but not only being 1/2 fights where u can actually play for longer That's all i want to be able to play a lot again
@liamsmith14906 ай бұрын
on the reddit there was a post with more riot information and something that got a mention is scalable adventure mechanics and hard mode.
@colossaldonut51906 ай бұрын
I hope they cut out some of the grind and make deck power more translatable between champions. I don't want to have to run through the Teemo mission every time I try a new deck.
@KingTaltia6 ай бұрын
To be honest, seeing they're so heavily pivoting into the roguelike mode, and even adding more metaprogression (the way to make a roguelike more casual friendly) I wouldn't be surprised if they stop treating LoR like a card game with a roguelike mode, and more like a roguelike card game (ala slay the spire) and if that does happen, I can only imagine PoC will get even better.
@liamsmith14906 ай бұрын
@@KingTaltia yeah I'm drawn to PoC because of its rogue like elements if they pivot into that I'd be happy.
@durttheelder40356 ай бұрын
@@KingTaltiaproblem i have with the mode is they are playing a lot more into the roguelite tropes of meta progression and things being impossible because you didn't grind enough to get + 10 max hp for when thwy hit you with a bunch of unavoidable damage several battles in a row
@keynanvarnado75926 ай бұрын
I only play POC so this update actually sounds pretty good to me. Hopefully some substantial story content will follow.
@DefendYourGains6 ай бұрын
Do you spend much money for POC? only curious?
@anhvo21275 ай бұрын
@@DefendYourGains since you're curious, I wanna answer as another player who also only play POC. Except for the patch that they give Asol shards and starforged gauntlet, no, I don't spend it on anything else.
@gianenci6 ай бұрын
Thanks Necrit, this video give me hopes for the future nonenthless!
@anub1s7476 ай бұрын
6:40 I totally got caught off-guard with this good lord 😂
@fogdragon236 ай бұрын
I didn't know LoR existed for the longest time because it was not well advertised outside its channel. I want to say I picked it up around Azir's reveal?
@Anegor6 ай бұрын
It was very advertised initially but it still didn't do that well. Of course advertising went down as the game stop being able to pay for its cost
@amberjack74096 ай бұрын
It did have a ton of advertising and was a pretty big thing on release but most people got on tried it out and quit. It reached its target audience and actually got a solid playerbase. It just has a very unsustainable business model
@Aphelia.6 ай бұрын
I agree with the above comments, it's just that CCG in general is getting smaller
@DakotaHoll6 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised. People love story games more than anything else and being able to customize your "Character" deck is just a massive plus
@ayoCC6 ай бұрын
I think it makes sense to put LoR into the League client and kinda like an occasional side game you dip into once in a while, kinda like TFT or ARAM
@stephenschneekloth15356 ай бұрын
They should have done that from the start
@itsgonnabeokay93416 ай бұрын
That wouldn't make sense.
@firemancer_6 ай бұрын
I am pretty sure TFT, League, and LoR have different player bases so putting them into the same client wouldn't change much.
@stephenschneekloth15356 ай бұрын
@@firemancer_ You'd be surprised what player bases cross, that and it just makes sense to have your other games accessible to each other like that.
@YChik6 ай бұрын
They really did bad advertising in my country (Italy). For example the YT channel was no longer updated even if there were the full trailers with voice acting, sometimes released only on FB and not on YT and viceversa leaving a lot of wasted work until they stopped posting anywhere
@gameplayerone39176 ай бұрын
I loved LoR so much, much more than League itself. Which is why it was really hard for me to quit, even with my limited budget I was so intent on supporting the game lest it died and bought everything I could. However, during the ruination event, the game did die, for me at least. I felt so punished for trying to complete the event, while also completing the same event for LoL and TFT, that I eventually just quit altogether. I'm just screaming into the void to get this off my chest. I'm ultimately glad the game isn't dead nor dying anytime soon. I do look forward to coming back one day because while, the PvE content wasn't as developed back then, it was still very enjoyable. Only time will tell.
@MurexHyena6 ай бұрын
I really hope that in the future when the MMO comes out, they start lor again in game but from version 1 and this time make it like a real like card game with limited number of cards and rarities , packs to open and stuff like that . Cards that drop from legendary monsters , etc... you should be able to buy the packs from ingame currency ... then I'm happy ... start from the first version of the game and slowly and steadily realise new cards.
@nebojsavelickovic53886 ай бұрын
I have hope for LoR 😊
@bennie10796 ай бұрын
Amen
@deerdren6 ай бұрын
Not sure where you get it from 😢
@lifedeather6 ай бұрын
cope harder
@bright5546 ай бұрын
I've always liked that Lor isn't like heartsone because in heartsone you have to pay to have any chance in PVP and PVE is also paid
@ChromaticCluck6 ай бұрын
I literally only play POC it’s what I’ve been looking for in a ccg. It is also a great way for them to maybe try expanding the story using the fights.
@bennie10796 ай бұрын
Hell yeah brother. Excited for the new content
@stephenschneekloth15356 ай бұрын
Except PoC isn't a CCG......it doesn't let you build your own deck or care about what cards you own, which means what you've been looking for is not a CCG.
@ChromaticCluck6 ай бұрын
@@stephenschneekloth1535 you collect the cards and build the deck between the fights. I like this rouge like element because you're not running the same no-fun "meta" deck everyone else is running
@Yous01476 ай бұрын
@@ChromaticCluck I get what you mean, but stephen is right here. A CCG is a specific term for a card game where you build a deck and play against an opponent using cards you get and keep over time that you can use and reuse in other decks, and TCG is where players are able to trade cards beyond just collecting them. PoC is a Roguelike Deckbuilder, which sounds the same but is very different given that you don't really own those cards, you draft them for one game and then they're gone, and the deckbuilding is mechanic done as part of the game mode, not as a preperation for the game. I think what you're looking for is either Draft or Deckbuilder games, which are similar and can be both single and multiplayer, but a CCG is probably not for you given that it leads to a meta with optimised decks.
@ChromaticCluck6 ай бұрын
@@Yous0147 fair
@xaeoxic73286 ай бұрын
i think that the best thing they can do is mimic the success of commander for Magic. Singleton oriented around 1 specific champion that you can put into play at any point (unless other conditions restrict or enable it) with the tax for if it dies and returns to its "command zone" or whatever they would call it. The issue is that their game just DOES NOT have enough cards. they need lots and lots of stuff, but also a game mode to rationalize having that many cards and potentially cards that do essentially the same things. regardless, singleton is extremely fun because the diversity of your decks is crazy. with singleton though, maybe they declare one as the center piece for your deck, no copies of that champion in your deck whatsoever. Then the champions you can place are maybe a total of 4 UNIQUE champions (so 1 champion as the center piece with 0 duplicates as the commander and 3 or less unique ones, but those may have duplicates within which function normally in the LoR playstyle turning into spells if they are in hand and what not) Those champions would be the only cards allowed to be duplicates though and each other card would be restricted to 1 per and follow the regions set by the different champions you chose. So maybe you choose to do a targon 1 region deck with solari and lunari theme and you can only have targon cards. The issue then with thiss mode is that LoR needs to add a metric butt ton of cards to the game. from the perspective of riot though, it just doesnt seem reasonable. they also need casual game modes sorta lie TFT weith the augments and they can throughout the game choose maybe one or two augments like the ones in path. anyways, more gamemodes and deck types (runeterra decks were amazing) and just generally ways to get diverse aside from just regions and things in them
@KebehQuaa6 ай бұрын
PoC is the most played because theres a daily quest for 5 wins (and might as well complete a 6-9 match run while you're at it) while PvP daily bonus is only for 3 wins
@AppleBaron6 ай бұрын
That's really bad argument. One 7-battle adventure in PoC takes much less time to complete than even 5 PvP games, because AI doesn't rope you and always plays cards instantaneously. Plus winning in PoC is much easier, so you will definitely get your wins, while in PvP there is no guarantee you will win all your 3 first games, so you might play additional games which is more time. People really should stop coping and accept that PoC is just much more popular.
@DemoH4ck6 ай бұрын
i played POC a LOT, but only because i earn currency to use it in PVP. so without PVP updates tehres no point in playing POC for me.
@KebehQuaa6 ай бұрын
I played both. Kinda fun, but if it's only PoC I would rather play any proper deckbuilding roguelike without microtransactions
@jamesmaskell37436 ай бұрын
I found PoC was a good way of picking up the daily missions, to ensure a weekly champ.
@Kaygu_6 ай бұрын
Honestly, you cant say they aren't trying. Props to Riot for not pulling the plug
@999togetin26 ай бұрын
If it wasn't for that video Bricky made a while ago praising LoR, I would have never considered trying it out. Ended up loving it and even reached top 100 on the ladder. On the other hand, TFT is right in my face every time I open LoL, so naturally it takes one losing streak to take a break and give TFT a shot. TLDR: Both are amazing games, however, only TFT reminds you that it exists.
@LendarioCloud6 ай бұрын
I have to say that i play Runeterra everday in the morning while eating toast and coffee But the MEANING of MAYBE ppl playing only path of champions like me is because i only do 1 story to have enought XP for the 3 diamond cases rewards at the end of the week. 3 diamond cases = receving lots of cards and green stuff to make cards that i want. pvp will take more time.
@tamska6 ай бұрын
Working in business field it just baffles me how they are not able to monetize this game.
@Frostile6 ай бұрын
The issue I have with LoR is the inability to play the characters I want. Stuck doing campaigns for champions I dont even like.
@TheGamingMalamutt6 ай бұрын
I genuinely appreciate that they're doing what they can to sustain the game without killing it outright.
@LukeA4716 ай бұрын
I mean if the Emporium rotated more frequently and actually biased more towards things I wanted then it would be much better. I'm sick of seeing something I have no interest in buying be in there for almost a month or even a couple weeks
@bennie10796 ай бұрын
The thing I wish for the most in poc, is a reset to all rewards! Not a reset to the characters we’ve been building stronger, but I want all adventures to reset, so you can gain relics and chests for them again. It was awesome gaining rewards for those missions, but now, as someone who has all characters in 3 stars and most of them in max level, I’m missing the game incentive to keep playing! So that’s also why I’m suuuper excited for these poc changes!
@bookwu51336 ай бұрын
Not sure if this works for LoR but in league you can message the support and have them remove stuff from your account. It's worth trying in your case at least
@jamesmaskell37436 ай бұрын
I liked how the questions were almost as if pulled from Twitter. Kinda OTT but thats a good way of tackling the issues.
@wastedsoul10246 ай бұрын
LoR is the WNBA of Riot.
@VSasseville96 ай бұрын
They can totally have canon story. There is already a system where every champion can play all the default adventure. But then for some champion there is some extra adventure called campagne that comes with very minimalistic stories with comics and dialog. They could just improve on those. Give some to every champion and make it canon.
@wurfinius11136 ай бұрын
Legends of runeterra didn’t die, it was killed. They didn’t publicize the game, the things that you could buy were shit. I am happy that PoC is still on but if the game failed it was 100% their fault.
@phanthanhlam66126 ай бұрын
I was not killed, the dev and riot tried their best to keep the game alive, the dev don't do stupid sh*t that killed the game, you clearly don't watch the last part where he's talk about marketing, they tried to do it, it just make the game cost even more, do you know back in the day every lor expansion have a cinematic with them ? The game was doom to fail from the start, yes. But it does not mean they have not try, i am a lor player and i can tell you they put their soul into this game, the dev and the comunity are one in this game, the way you say it just denied all of their work tried to help the game
@phanthanhlam66126 ай бұрын
I hope the game doing well after this, i do play pve a lot but pvp is what keep the community alive, pve player keeps things for themself, incuding me, you don't see much topic about pve in the community. I tried to be optimistic but i don't see a community during the pvp hibernation time
@PluripotentTurtwig5256 ай бұрын
This is making me cry 😢 I’m not that fond of PVE. I only play it when I’m extremely busy during the week so I can get more rewards in the weekly vault. I don’t get satisfied with beating AI with a random deck, nor enabling combos in PoC (cause it’s so easy). I get frustrated losing as well because it’s so time consuming. *sigh* I was actually surprised when a friend made an account and he had the option to play PoC from the beginning, which wasn’t the case for me. I got on LoR during Rise of Tides. Anyway- just needed to let this out my chest, especially after realizing that one of the best communities in the world of video games is brain dead.
@kodahaha6 ай бұрын
You mentioned that "most companies would shut it down at this point." Riot has had a habit of tweaking EVERYTHING and seeing how much they can get away with. Passes slowly getting less and less rewards, events having more BE rewards than special resources. If Riot had shut down LoR at the same time as the rest of the drama, i think would too far and they knew that. They have such a tendency to say one thing and then change tune months/a few laters. Jayce's rework, Riot Forge getting the axe after just a few years, saying theyre taking twisted treeline away for rotating game modes that they just said THIS YEAR that we would actually have less downtime between each one. Ive played this game since season 3 and im not going anywhere, but as a long time fan boy i have to stay grounded and realize that Riot never changes.
@coruscanta6 ай бұрын
I really want to be hopeful. I do love Path of Champions. But as a former Heroes of the Storm player… Anyway, I’ll keep playing both as long as I can.
@duprosh51856 ай бұрын
It's nice to know they don't want to change LoR definition of CCG from Collectible Card Game to Credit Card Game, even though it's not as profitable as their other games, if at all
@danielnicuta83136 ай бұрын
So the thing why so many players play pve is the fact that to get the most resources you are incentifized to win at least 3 games in pve and 3 games in pvp so the pvp players play both but there are also people that play only pve, I think that the amountnof people that play pve will drop once the competitive part of the game is removed there will be a drop in the pve community as well
@laconsuela696 ай бұрын
Its sad to hear that LoR has been struggling so much. Honestly props to riot for keeping it alive, even if they have to let PvP die down. It is such a great game, but PvP was also struggling a lot in terms of being fun to play since Bandle
@Dophish6 ай бұрын
PVE Enjoyer here - I have been playing PoC since launch and its honestly super fun and a great way to enjoy LoR for me since I am a casual player.
@Merilirem6 ай бұрын
I will miss this game. It was so much fun.
@superpandagamer67076 ай бұрын
I started with hearthstone and 50% of my play time is pve and when Poc came out in LOR I played it a lot
@jonathanfranciscosanchezma72616 ай бұрын
Hearthstone has pve???
@alienalibi23826 ай бұрын
@@jonathanfranciscosanchezma7261 Probably a troll comment, but yeah and it's actually more bearable than having to take a break between every action, ala LoR
@AppleBaron6 ай бұрын
@@alienalibi2382What break between every action?
@superpandagamer67076 ай бұрын
@@jonathanfranciscosanchezma7261 Yea they have solo adventures
@colossaldonut51906 ай бұрын
PvE? Are you telling me that Naxx is out?
@Silver-Rose6 ай бұрын
Honestly, they've already got such a big grind set up in PoC, I don't think people would mind if they gave us options to pay our way through the grind. Some items are so grindy that you can only get one from a loot box that you can buy with in game currency that takes about a month to accumulate enough. Just give us more ways to buy these things. Hell, if stardust was a purchasable currency, LoR's income would skyrocket.
@petercserkuthy32926 ай бұрын
I don’t play legends of runaterra, but I am happy to hear that it will be supported, I love the lore, and legends of runaterra is the best for that
@Zerael2526 ай бұрын
It's sad to see a generous game like LoR struggling this much. I know they don't want to put the classic CCG monetization system into the game but I think they should now. Nothing wrong with using gacha card packs and skins opening system if the game is still giving enough resources to enjoy the game. Look at Shadowverse monetization system for example
@Necrikus6 ай бұрын
PoC is easily the most fun aspect of the game. I do recall LoR having something of a draft mode once and I preferred that over the construction formats simply because a good portion of the meta game. Back when I only played Magic, you could still make non-meta decks and see a fair amount of success, but in LoR, it always felt like you couldn't get away with that as well. And even with the diversity of champions in the game, I rarely saw that diversity reflected in ladder. In PoC, it's always partially a draft and deck construction is an active part of the strategy. The additional rules added to the matches on top of that, including champion unique ones, gives a variety to the gameplay that keeps things interesting. So while it is nice that PvE content will be getting the most focus going forward, cutting the team still feels like a bit much; like, maybe stop with the over the top animations, first?
@growtocycle69926 ай бұрын
The game became "does your deck fit within one of 10 meta decks?" Yes-> 70% chance you win. No->95% chance you lose It became boring to lose to the same, uninspired decks over and over again
@okboomer34786 ай бұрын
I think this is the time when LOR needs the playerbase the most
@marajango6 ай бұрын
Me, everytime I see something pop up about LoR: "Aw shit, here we go again"
@shawnlyons65435 ай бұрын
Being a Pokemon unite player, I'm so grateful for the communication from developers in regards to LoR. Thank you developers.
@gianenci6 ай бұрын
Love to hear they are focusing on single player! ❤
@sln07826 ай бұрын
I didn't know they had a PvE in the game, I played it when released and really enjoyed it but lost track of the game since I didn't have enough time. Now with this new shift to refocus it on PvE I'm actually looking forward to it :)
@letgomylegho74066 ай бұрын
I saw this from a mile away, still rockin' my LoR beta icon. I was able to get so many free cards throughout just playing/completing quests, I'm surprised more people didn't play LoR because of how accessible some of the cards are. It was definitely fun while it lasted, looking forward to more PvE content!
@nyanffie99056 ай бұрын
I never bought battle pass from games except this one. I bought two because i was heavily invested in the game.
@pattamon94326 ай бұрын
The Last Stand of Legends of Runeterra sounds like a Song from Sabaton.
@putin20126 ай бұрын
I hope someday LoL will have a mod creation options for community modes. I don't like DotA that much but I really like creative modes that appear there from time to time. Because I have a bunch of fun Ideas for PvE that Riot themselves would almost never implement: - LoL TD game with champions as "turrets" - Ability Draft - where everyone picks 1-3 champions and then everyone drafts themselves a passive, Q, W, E and R from a set of 3 random champions of selected pool. - Ultimate theft - Everyone's champion has Sylas ult as a replacement of their own but it steals original ult of enemy champion. Also I'm sure modders will find a way to bring back old PvE modes like Starguardian event or Odyssey. And maybe create a few new Doom Bots...
@bllllllllackbirdie6 ай бұрын
if legends of runeterra makes a gamemode similar to nuzlocking from pokemon but with the cards..... im totally gonna play that a lot.
@silverwings92766 ай бұрын
I just wanted a decent draft mode, I guess it will never happen and I'm forced back into HS arena, fuck me. Game was indeed under-monetized but man the constant going back and forth without really going all-in was their downfall: PVP then PVE then PVP then PVE feels like a very confused upper management.
@anakaov23576 ай бұрын
I must admit it that i spend a lot of time on path of champion, like a lot. And play ranked just for two or three game per season. And doesn't even play ranked this season. It just sad to hear this news... Man, i hope its not gonna be worse for now on
@samueltsao6646 ай бұрын
interesting that they been working on it before hearthstone, i applied and asked about any card games in the work for riot in 2017 and was rejected mainly because there wasnt a card game project for me to be signed up
@haruiro116 ай бұрын
Could've just said no to prevent expectation and fan pressure to release it. Also the topic, "Riot sucks so bad they canceled the upcoming card game being made under everyone's nose" and booo card game fans flames riot and say blizzard is better
@zami0010016 ай бұрын
As an OCE player, I had no idea that button was only in our clients and not anyone elses. It makes so much more sense now, it felt like everyone was ignoring that they added the button to the league client months ago.
@Tanktaco6 ай бұрын
This is what makes the layoffs so painful, because Riot does try and care about their products. Yet the firings were such a disaster.
@Relevart91696 ай бұрын
Im just thankful for LoR giving Evelynn, Lissandra and the coven skinline some love, they never appear anywhere so it was good to see them
@xzephershadowkick78176 ай бұрын
I hate being too poor to support this amazing game.
@davidprudhvi5 ай бұрын
Me tooo
@fidgetyjester23992 ай бұрын
If I was rich then I probably would had tried to pay 100,000 dollars in 1 month, because I believe these are the kind of game that should be more popular than other card game, like very fun gameplay and very F2P. Sadly I'm not, so meh. Lol 😂
@sparemobius74306 ай бұрын
5:57 keep on Necrit, I too want to see that return. Maybe they will get the message one day. I get it too, with the champs changing they didnt want to keep things like that as it would not be the same supposedly, but I mean come on. Copy, Paste character, change the name for that mode only, you have a state of the character for just that mode, problem solved right? That game mode was so good, so was the Star Guardian one, but this one had earnable skills and stuff to customize the champs for the mode, so much replayability, so fun, loved it.
@LucianoLoues6 ай бұрын
the constellation system is completely identical to the artifact weapons we got in the legion expansion in WoW
@dikz146 ай бұрын
I really hope that the change is real and they focus on turning Lore into a roguelike deck builder, not a casual PoC. I think that only in that way may Lore have a future of surviving.
@Surgery76 ай бұрын
what did they mean by they'll never run out of money if they keep having to make so many tough financial decisions
@Geraf256 ай бұрын
They made LoR because they loved deck building, and now they will support only the mode without deck building, wtf
@BoopaKing6 ай бұрын
It's honestly impressive that Riot has been running a money sink for this long and is _still_ trying to avoid destroying the player experience for profits.
@synsol10086 ай бұрын
There used to be a league mode where your team battled super buffed bots
@Paul206616 ай бұрын
dinner time with necrit
@kurousagioktavia43746 ай бұрын
C6 Aurelion Sol will have an order
@wiilov6 ай бұрын
Wow, who would have though 12 years of bad business spending would bite them in the ass
@anguibok6 ай бұрын
I didn't even know they are a PVE in LoR, so I understand the "Why no add"
@yourdunkedon70596 ай бұрын
Yeah sorry but without pvp Lor is not the same Edit: I know it will still be there but without new cards it will slowly die out and I also play and enjoy path of champions but for me it is something I play every once in a while, as someone who played since launch it is just sad that not every champion made it too the game
@cactys36 ай бұрын
it isn't the same, and that's the point!
@josiahkrodel46566 ай бұрын
Here's the thing. Not competitive. But player vs player content will still exist as is, without being expanded apon. Not the same, but better then I thought
@bennie10796 ай бұрын
PvP is still there. They are just shutting down ranked. Which doesn’t mean you can’t go play against other players or your friends for that matter. Besides, PoC is great. Maybe you should try it.
@chezux9796 ай бұрын
Getting an “I CANNOT BE STOPPED” in a pvp match is so much more satisfying than in path of legends
@nebojsavelickovic53886 ай бұрын
@@chezux979ok? You can still play pvp, I don't see your point
@sumoshepe6 ай бұрын
Honestly... I always think about how awesome it is that there is a league of legends card game... I primarily play League soloq and TFT but I always imagine enjoying LoR... recently there has been much talk about the future of LoR and this has me worried... So today will be my first day playing and getting into, I want to see this succeed and its so sad to hear it hasn't been doing well. If you love the league universe we have to support it, I want to continue to see these games and these worlds grow. I love it much like the children of the 90's loved Disney and Pixar. Thank you Riot for not giving up on your other games!!!
@theprofessor79656 ай бұрын
As CS we were allowed to playtest this way back in 2019 to anticipate future player concerns when it launched. Its sad to see it in this state. This was our baby.
@higorlauer7426 ай бұрын
As someone who played at the release and then stopped, coming back i only played PoC so i could farm without the pain of getting destroyed by better decks
@MEGASTRIX6 ай бұрын
Omega strikers now this. Ffffck
@manuelghezzodebadin98986 ай бұрын
What happened to omega strikers?
@Nw-zh1uq6 ай бұрын
What happened to Omega strikers?
@MEGASTRIX6 ай бұрын
@@manuelghezzodebadin9898 They announced that updates will stop and theyll continue other projects instead.
@Nw-zh1uq6 ай бұрын
@@MEGASTRIX That game is new no? How come?
@Siegram9996 ай бұрын
not doing good@@Nw-zh1uq
@_Boobbert_6 ай бұрын
got over 200 stars in LoR path, the grind looks like hell.
@user-iv9kw9wn2z6 ай бұрын
I was really angry because Steve Rubin lay off. but after watching your video. I think I can accept a little more.
@AshBlossomWorshiper6 ай бұрын
8:40 what do they mean by this? Aatrox is already a champ in PoC. Do they mean that he'll be an end boss?
@solitudesf81116 ай бұрын
they mean he is one of the first 20 characters to get 6 stars treatment
@I.Simmonds6 ай бұрын
I always figured Lor would become a gacha or get gacha elements. I was floored i realized the views on genshin characters videos.
@FoxdaBear6 ай бұрын
While I'm sad that PvP is going away I love PoC and the PvE content has been amazingly fun and I am happy the game isn't going away
@chrishaven14896 ай бұрын
I just really want a multiplayer element to PoC, whether it be co-op or PvP
@FlutterSwag6 ай бұрын
You cant tell me selling 2 PNG's for $10 was a smart buisness move
@theprofessor79656 ай бұрын
About the 2011 development thing and hearthstone and you mentioning they "missed the train" on that one, they actually partnered up with cygames before or at least attempted to. The R and D for that failed collab lead to Shadowverse. That being said, please take this with a grain of salt as I've only heard this from an AMA session with one the "real" rioters (we were outsourced rioters)
@markanjelloagrabio75156 ай бұрын
The big issue is that the progress is too fast that future thoughts were hard to brainstorm. 1. They should start with versus event at the beginning since LOR is a versus card game and every season should start with versus event giving better perks on winning side and good perks on loosing side.(of course you pay for the versus event... Good monetization) 2. Demacia versus noxus is a great beginning fight with garen, quinn, orig champ for demacia and darius, kat, orig champ for noxus. 3. Quarterly champion with random cards release. 4. Anual champion with supporting cards release. 5. Yearly region release with champions versus event including orig champs. And then after (1)freijlord (2)piltover-zaun (3)shurima (4)bildgewater (5)ionia (6)shadow isle (7)ixtal (8)targon (9)icathia... After a decade of introducing new regional expansion and development they should start making new game modes. In such way LOR will be always exciting and fun to play and never boring cuz every season there's something new for decade to come.
@ilu91706 ай бұрын
i´m glad about the news, the pve was always fun even back in the heartstone days :) hope there will be some co-op in it and stuff :) right now idk why i should keep leveling champs since you get op real quick
@Smoses_senpai6 ай бұрын
The LoR animations were actually pretty awesome
@lolzism16 ай бұрын
That was something I never understood- when they said they were adding new champions to the Path roster like Norra and- wait a second- Aatrox is already on the Path roster. So who the hell did they mean by Aatrox?!
@PluripotentTurtwig5256 ай бұрын
I HAVE A DECK CEMETERY Seems like a lot of PoC fans hated the meta. I guess that’s fair, but personally, I didn’t mind. I never got beyond gold though until they changed the points system. And I never tried to go beyond platinum. I just enjoyed my own decks. Now my best deck is Ahri Yuumi. It may not be original to others but what I own is my homebrew and I have so much fun with it. Yet every expansion, after I finish the event rewards, I start mass killing decks. I have an iCloud notes where I put the code and that’s their final resting place (unless…) It hurts so bad that I’m not gonna meet more interesting decks or deckbuilders. When a deck pops off against me, I’m thrilled for my opponent. Can’t say that about PVE.
@Lightmagician606 ай бұрын
Honestly, i'm kinda interested, because i am guilty of this, i farmed PoC 80% more for Exp However i hope if they do shift to PoC they add in a deck building feature to PoC. So that you're collection does something... Like you can add in up to X cards to your deck if you own them in PvP
@solitudesf81116 ай бұрын
its never been so over...
@EKGraphics7676 ай бұрын
As a person who's had all cards from day 1 I'm fine with the changes & monetization so long as I can still get new future cards using shards.
@bxbxk6 ай бұрын
Thing is, since Path of Champions released I almost played LoR everyday buying the Season Passes and even buying Skins for my fav. Champs just for aesthetic reasons. But then they fired a bunch of guys and said they would only focus on PvP going onward. I felt so scammed by that. I genuinely wanted to support them, cuz I really liked Path of Champions and was looking forward to whats to come. But after that, I never bought a season pass or skin again, cuz they themselves said, that the money wouldnt be used to improve Path of Champions. Im not sure if its too late for me to return to it tho...
@Zharque6 ай бұрын
Used to play this game so much back then, and then I immediately dropped the game after I finally managed to hit Masters rank. The meta was too much to keep track of, it felt terrible playing your own cooked decks and get bodied by OP meta decks. Will give the game another try once the shift to PVE comes in since I never really played with that mode that much.