My pleasure brother...

I have done the same and I have found out that since it’s a little lighter you need to melt the shell closed for a crimp …. The little bit extra time it takes for it to open up increases FPS by about 300 … I punched clean through a fire extinguisher with the 1/4 …. I have made some 3/8 also and need to test them still

I just did the same you can fit 20 6mm SS in a birdshot load from Winchester it’s lighter only .63 on the scale instead of the full 1oz lead

my pleasure buddy!! Wade

wash your hands dont beleve all the lead hipe it ant gun hunt scam most privet land and indan land still use lead dont let happen in your state i am leo ret gave up hunting shooting over this

It will also damage your barrel.

...and goes against the ethics and conservation of hunting itself.

@@paulrodriguez3982What is unethical about using lead ammunition?

Uncle used to apply steel powder to the paint he painted his aluminum heads with back in the dirt track days. It was enough for a magnet to stick. Told em the enamel tractor implement paint must be thick. So this idea in theory would work

that's all it is... It helps with resistance. And several folks asked if it was even possible to powder coat steel pellets. Wade

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RSVP2RIP he said in the shot description that the manual called for the longer wad but he didn’t have any so he used what he had.

No , he said he used the 41mm on purpose for better crimps .

Cuts down on friction... No need to coat. But I was asked buy lot's of subs if it could be done. Wade

@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors You are the man!! Thanks for responding!

Yes I have! Sometimes a Mylar wrap can help a lot! I use .007 mil more than anything else.

The plastic wad cup protects the barrel. The powder coating is used only to prevent corrosion.

Thank you for asking this question I was looking for this answer also.

@@lordeedoort9882 ...cause you know,, nobody wants rusty balls.

@@timhallas4275 that’s strange, I’ve had uncoated steel shot that’s sat around for 15 years without any rust. The barrel of your shotgun needs to be hard enough - all modern shotguns are made to handle steel, but never use if in grandad’s old shotty.

@@patrickandkennafenwick3958 Grandad's shotgun is made of better steel than your new one.

That all depends on your choke Tom... You never fire steel shot thru any choke that isn't rated for steel. Usually no choke smaller than a Mod. you don't want to be squeezing the shot too much as steel won't compress like lead will.

Or always run em with a shot cup to save the barrel. I’ve been converting #7 birdshot to ball bearing rounds. Single ball .6oz. load .625 (5/8) diameter w/wadding. Double ball 1.2oz. Load .625 (5/8) ball bearings w/no wadding. 0000 buck .375 (3/8) ball bearings. 0 buck .3125 (5/16) ball bearings. 3 buck .250 (1/4) ball bearings. I’ve found all these available on Amazon and can convert these all for around $.50 a round total ($.25 for #7 round & $.25 for the load).

@@22mtrent thanks Matt!!

​@22mtrent I'm new to this and thinking about reloading but want to use steel. What recipes are you using for 0 buck and 3 buck? Thanks!

You can fire any steel out of a full-length wad. and most all modern barrels can handle any kind of steel shot.

Thank you for clarifying that. Is there a way of making full length wads at home?

He already has a video with a steel shot turkey load with daisy BB’s... it’s actually my go-to duck load now. Works awesome.

Well , it will * Pattern * out to 50yds . But the patterns aren't the limiting factor , terminal effectiveness is . Weight of the .31 pellets is only 30gr . Sectional density is way down , velocity drops way faster , penetration is significantly less . So instead of 50-55yd capabilities limited by pattern , think 30-35yd , limited by energy . Two generations of waterfowl hunters think that Steel Shot is " Normal " , and anyone who remembers lead #2's is an old fart .

I have done the same . I loaded them with bird shot in any empty space . I melted the shell to crimp it and I think since it has to fight the crimp, pressure and velocity is incredible .

Most of the basic principles were figured. check out in the early days of steel shot for waterfowl . Greatly Oversimplified : Yes , harder steel shot can potentially give very tight patterns . To maintain sorta similar patterns , one size more open choke . For energy levels vaguely sorta kinda close to lead pellets , use steel two sizes larger than lead , ie steel BB to substitute-ish for lead #4 . To actually match downrange energy , should be three sizes . ie steel BB to replace lead #6 . But that would make pellet counts way smaller , and patterns too thin . Again greatly oversimplified , but the two choices are put up with reduced performance and reduced range with somewhat affordable steel , or spend $$$ on exotic non- toxics .

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Doesn't have to be. Several folks from Cally asked me if it were possible. Just 1 more layer of protection for the barrel and choke.

the powder coat is an extra layer of protection.

Steel and other alloys are hard and need no coating. If you use lead, you should get Hard lead, Copper plated or the best Nickel plated. Buffer is much beter than coating for long range

it's not necessary at all Steven. The only reason that I tried it is that my subs asked me if powder coating steel were possible. it was just an experiment!

Yeah... cally going green!!

both are correct. it's an added layer of protection.

Thank you Bubba

If you use the correct wads no more then lead shot. Also use a choke designed for steel and start with a cylinder choke and work your way up.

Pretty sure he means under the shot. Put the card in the bottom cavity of the wad and put the shot on top.

There is a similar load using BD, same load, just different powder charge for BD

A lot of folks asked me if it was possible to powder coat steel just as another layer of protection for your barrel and choke! Some older shotguns need a little more protection from the steel shot. Most modern shotguns have chrome lined barrels and are more resistant to damage from steel shot. Wade

I was wondering that too.

bb shot kills just about everything, bird wise.Nosler E-tips are good and so are Barnes Trippleshok. Lead can still be used for target practice.

Yes , as exotic non- toxics go , Bismuth is a semi- affordable decent option . But back in the day , it took a lot of R&D to get the right balance to be malleable enough , but not crumble upon firing . So you probably won't be casting at home using store brand antacids . As HawkKnives points out above , people hunting in California will have to develop a different mental calculus . For rifles and pistols , and shotguns up to geese , non toxics at least as effective as lead exists , but is $ to $$$ . Buckshot on purpose , sucks with steel , and HeaviShot is $$$ . If wished to hunt big game with a 12ga , rather than buckshot on purpose , the non- toxic slug choices are better than buckshot alternatives . If you compare the total expenditures for a week long hunting trip , then even $10 or more per shot is small percentage of overall costs . But it will be an era where " good " ammunition is only used for actual shots on game , and no practice or recreational shooting of hunting ammo .

hey Joey... Same data for 2.75 inch only difference is pellet count; 28 pellets of the .25 inch #3 pellets and 12 pellets of the 5/16th inch #0 sized pellets.

just a reg. TPS wad.

Powder coat just adds an extra layer of protection for your barrel and choke. The main reason was I was asked if it were possible to powder coat larger steel ball by several subs in Cally. And if I could work up some loads for the larger steel ball.

Because bare steel will start to pit your barrel and choke over time (a short time)

Wow that’s interesting even with the proper steel wad your barrel and choke still gets damaged

" Steel Rated " chokes , if you look closely , are intended for pellets up to a certain diameter . Implied is commonly used for waterfowl , some tighter specialty choke tubes will explicitly state use only up to certain size . Worst case , chokes will become a consumable commodity . Off the top of my head , an extended choke tube , that doesn't start constricting until beyond the barrel , hopefully wouldn't damage the threaded portion of the barrel .

not at all Ryan! it's just another layer of protection.

No need for it with steel shot!

Hey David... it's just 1 more layer of protection! I have several subs from Cally that asked me if it were possible to powder coat the steel pellets. Wade

@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors thank you for the reply,, since I new reloading and see that you also using sling shot steel balls off of ebay and I live in California. what size of the steel sling shot off of ebay would you recommended for #4 and 00 lead size and weight , Thank you for any info-David I am Using lyman 5th pg.357 and do you know any substations for powder SR 4756?

@@davidclark7402 the closest that you can come with the slingshot ammo is the 1/4" (#3 buck .25 cal) and the 5/16" (#0 buck .31 cal)

no... the powder coat is just an extra layer of protection for the barrel and choke.

@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors But you would still recommend hulls and wads made for steel?

I haven't tried the ITX shot yet... I need to get BP to send me some! Wade

#00 is .33 caliber

@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors thank you

I've been using the 40 caliber sinter fire bullets. They are a 125 grain. They work good out of a 410.

@@krod2162 may I ask what choke your using?

Imp cyl

@@krod2162 thank you

no... it's not necessary to PC steel! I was asked if it could be done so I attempted it for the folks that asked if it were possible. Thanks for stopping by! Wade

@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors looking for a good load for #4 buck and longshot and hs6 all in 2-3/4 shell size. Could I use steel shot in place of lead shot?

@@woodknack1 on my website, you can download my personal load sheets for free: www.bubbarountreeoutdoors.com/reloading.html

@@woodknack1 yes, you can use the steel shot in place of lead but the weight of the steel is lighter and may not cycle an autoloader but will work great in all other shotguns!

powder coat help reduce friction.